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JayArgonaut

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#1059163
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Superman I-III extended TV cuts & Info - Where have the Preservations gone? (Released)
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IR0NL0RD said:

Hi there, I have to say I’m curious as to how people come across buying these old tapes, is it through meetings at conventions and the like? could you give a little more info?

I have come across sites before that tend to look defunct, wherein people list their collections and want lists for example.

I can’t comment on the Superman TV airings but in general, I’ve found stuff without even looking. For instance, one night on the way home, in my local area, I came across a box of VHS tapes and they appear to be screeners and rough cut promos that belonged to someone at ITV. The cases even had “Please return to…” labels with the network address.

On another occasion, at a flea market, I saw a BETACAM tape bearing the title of a long running UK TV programme, going for next to nothing.

Going back to Superman, I’m curious as to how they reached an agreement with Warner Bros. to make the preservation available for download from the site…

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#1059118
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Idea, Info & Project: 'Titanic' - UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes) (Released)
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Perhaps if someone gave us a hint as to where those who are interested can find the Sky broadcast of Titanic? It doesn’t appear to be on our favourite organ inspired site…

Thaddäus Tentakel said:

@JayArgonaut: Just because I’m curious about it: Do you know where the watershed for uncut-broadcasts of such films is? In Germany it’s 8pm for films rated FSK 12, 10pm for FSK 16 and 11pm for FSK 18. Films that are on the index are not allowed to be shown uncut at any time on TV, no matter if it’s 7pm or 3 in the morning. But I’ve no idea how censorship works on British TV.
“Titanic” is a quite good example for that: German afternoon-broadcasts on ProSiebenSAT.1-channels have been cut around 10 minutes, but mostly “violent” scenes (drowning people, Tommy being shot…). Here’s a report with pictures of the missing scenes in the afternoon-broadcasts: http://www.dvd-forum.at/schnittbericht/342-titanic

The UK-broadcasts on 4 I’ve seen showed much more of that violence but in return such things as Fred Fleet screaming “Basterds!” into the phone are missing there. Are there any rules what has to be removed during certain times or is it just up to the TV-stations what they’re doing with their programmes?

Just to be certain that I provide the correct answer on this topic, here’s the broadcasting code as set out by our communications regulator:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/advice-for-consumers/television/what-is-the-watershed

“The watershed begins at 9pm and material unsuitable for children should not, in general, be shown before 9pm or after 5.30am. Unsuitable material can include everything from sexual content to violence, graphic or distressing imagery and swearing. For example, the most offensive language must not be broadcast before the watershed on TV or, on radio, when children are particularly likely to be listening. Frequent use of offensive language must be avoided before the watershed, and must always be justified by its context.”

Nonetheless, I’ve still heard mild profanity during the daytime, such as “bastards” and “bitch” (and not in the context of fatherless children or female dogs 😄 ) and recently one channel that specialises in “classic programming” screened a miniseries that contained repeated utterances of the n-word uncut, way before the watershed. I suppose they were able to justify it in the historical context of the storyline.

In the past, we would sometimes receive an official “Edited for Television” sanitised version of a film with the profanity cleaned up, such as when the BBC used to show the Back to the Future “Son of a Butthead” TV cut. Nowadays, UK channels will just hack up the film themselves. The most annoying situation is when they decide to censor a film - even when it’s being aired way after the watershed, as was the case with the BBC during Xmas when they broadcast The Winter Soldier around 10:30pm but still edited it for violence and language.

If the C4 broadcast turns out to be censored again, which is likely - the best bet appears to be someone tracking down the Sky airing or a capture from Film4 HD (as they’ve shown it post-watershed) by whoever has access to satellite or Virgin Media.

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#1058866
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Idea, Info & Project: 'Titanic' - UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes) (Released)
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As was discussed above at length, Channel 4 have routinely censored Titanic whenever they broadcast it, in order to make the film “suitable” for viewing during the early evening slots. Annoyingly, they did the same thing with Avatar and hacked it to pieces instead of using the Family Friendly audio track that would’ve been available to them.

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#1058576
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Idea, Info & Project: 'Titanic' - UK HDTV broadcast (pre 2012 changes) (Released)
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http://www.channel4.com/programmes/titanic

It’s scheduled for another broadcast on Sat 1st April at… 7pm - which already strongly suggests that they’re simply repeating the censored version yet again. If it was airing at 10pm or later then the odds would be in our favour for an uncut transmission. Nonetheless, I’ll record it anyway.

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#1057749
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Star Trek - Treknology (Released)
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This Trek fan for one would definitely welcome anything that you want to share. 😃

So much of that stuff has never been made commercially available and will probably never be repeated due to licensing issues and other factors. On a side note, I wish that I’d been able to record the Nimoy introductions to C4’s Star Trek TOS film marathon a few years back.

Was the 25th anniversary special also broadcast on BBC2 and was it around the same period in 1992 (the autumn IIRC) when they also aired The Cage?

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#1057719
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Star Trek - Treknology (Released)
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Thanks! Now I remember the theme night because it also featured the BBC premiere of ST: Voy - Caretaker. Did you manage to record the entire night? It didn’t occur to me at the time that I ought to record it and my VCR was mono anyway, let alone NICAM. I’d definitely be interested in re-watching Science: the Final Frontier and Funk Me up Scotty.

It’s such a shame that BBC2 hasn’t shown anything like this in years.

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#1057308
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Who Framed Roger Rabbit? (uncut) laserdisc preservation (Released)
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Sampistola said:

Put the link to download the original uncensored version please

“The originaltrilogy.com forum provides information about fan projects. Due to the underground nature of this scene, there are no downloads or torrent links posted here. You are expected to search out these projects yourself.”

http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Notes-on-Piracy-Please-Read/id/13347

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#1056863
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Star Wars Special Edition Trilogy Japan Laserdiscs (2000 set) (Released)
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An overdue reply… Considering it’s been literally captured straight from the LD onto a DVD recorder, the results are quite good. For me, the only (minor) issue is the presence of video noise within the image but that’s an intrinsic characteristic of LD players. I have two players: a consumer UK PAL/NTSC unit and an industrial NTSC only model - both suffer from this problem but the latter to a far lesser extent.

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#1055179
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Video Games - a general discussion thread
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moviefreakedmind said:

Are PS3s just worse in Europe? I’ve never heard of anything like this happening until now.

I suspect it’s a case of extremely bad luck. I purchased a reconditioned UK (CECHGxx) PS3 from Ebay in 2013 and there’s never been any problems. It even survived being thrown on the floor by whichever SOB staged a home invasion on my place some years back.