Yeah, I saw that listed on the Spleen. Have you watched it and if so, what’s your verdict? Do you prefer the fan edit or the theatrical?
Fair enough. Luke-assed out? 😄
The answer is: the time difference is from the fact that it is 25fps. (It says on the page)
Got it. I had to do some reading in order to understand, as I’m not an expert on such things.
https://www.wired.com/2014/08/wtf-just-happened-soap-opera-effect/
Thanks, found it with the upload date that you included. 😃
Looks very good indeed. My C4 HDTV recording clocks in at 9.15 GB and that includes the commercial breaks whilst this one is 25.07 GB and commercial free so there’s no contest. The running time is listed as 03:06:49 and the official theatrical is 3hrs 15m. The credits have probably been time compressed or removed.
Perhaps someone who has downloaded it can confirm?
Has anyone managed to check the Netflix version yet?
I’m still checking my EPG every week for further re-airings by C4 and its sister channels.
Lucas had been trying to get this made since the 80’s.
Really, that long? I thought it was since 1991 - and even that amount of time surprised me.
An HBO movie on the same subject came out in 1995.
Yes, The Tuskegee Airmen, I’ve got the DVD somewhere. Damn good film with a great cast.
As for Red Tails, I was eager to see it because of the subject matter, especially after enjoying the HBO film, so I imported the US Blu-ray as the UK theatrical release date hadn’t even been announced. Despite a good director (I enjoyed Hemingway’s work on The Wire) and cast, it came across as ok but nothing more. Frustratingly, it fell way short of its potential to be an epic war and historical film.
The “Double Victory” documentary included on the Blu-ray that featured testimonies from the real life Tuskegee Airmen was much more powerful, engrossing and compelling than the feature film. Lucas should’ve based RT around those actual true stories instead.
Does it have the full aspect ratio? That’s an important thing to consider because Netflix is a notorious online offender with this butchery. Also is it true HD?
R2-D2 And Luke Skywalker said:
I called Lucasfilm…
I’m surprised that none of the pre-2012 theatrical versions have made it onto the Spleen.
Thanks for the insights. I wish I still had my VHS recording of the TESB ITV premiere because I would’ve loved to see what you made of that. 😃
Ok and would those early home video masters have been sourced from 35mm or 16mm? The reason I’m asking is because I’m intrigued as to which would’ve been superior, the telecast or the home video copies.
If only the 1993 LD masters had been taped over. Even the old Japanese LD transfers looked better.
Agreed. Hence my earlier comments about much preferring my CBS/Fox W/S LD’s. I know that you’re a massive collector, have you got the Jpn discs and the Faces/DE sets?
Another “See how much better the new SE version is” tactic.
Yeah, we’ll give you the originals but in the worst possible form that we can get away with - just to spite you all. At the time Lucas had said something like, “let’s see how well they do”, implying that no-one would want them and with such blatant sabotage at play, that outcome wouldn’t have been a surprise.
Doesn’t the master tape have to be 16:9 to begin with?
Is it not 16:9 inside a 4:3 frame though?
It is the correct aspect ratio, but the disk is mastered at awful ancient laserdisc standards, so the image doesent know how to scale on a modern tv.
Those standards weren’t awful in 1993 though. 😉
😃 Even now, the sound on many LD’s remain superior to their modern rivals and my NTSC W/S CBS/FOX SW discs still look good, even taking into account the limitations. The subsequent FACES/Definitive Edition sets suffered from DVNR smearing and Lucasfilm used those masters, which didn’t help matters much.
Can someone explain to me why the GOUT is non-anamorphic?
As was mentioned above, it’s sourced from a Laserdisc master and also it appears to have been a deliberate choice by Lucasfilm not to set the 16:9 flag during the DVD mastering so that the original versions look as bad as possible in every capacity.
http://www.indiewire.com/2017/04/13-images-cinematographer-michael-ballhaus-1201805097/
Now, my dad also remembers it being undubbed when he saw it on a plane (it had subtitles.) Do airlines get different versions than regular DVDs?
Yes, they do on occasion. Others will probably weigh in with more detail but The Rock, Fantastic Four(2005), The Abyss, The Truman Show and allegedly BTTF 2 are just some of the films to have received alternate versions for airlines.
Here’s some articles on the topic:
https://stephenfollows.com/in-flight-movies/
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/director-pulls-credit-after-airlines-cut-film
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1549215/BA-airbrushes-Branson-from-in-flight-Bond-film.html
http://www.newnownext.com/carol-movie-delta-airlines/08/2016/
http://www.economist.com/blogs/gulliver/2017/01/sanitise-skies
Could it be that non-North American copies still have the original audio?
Unfortunately it doesn’t appear so:
I didn’t quite understand your post, so with a Google search for “Galaxy Quest uncensored”, I found the following article that shed light on the matter:
http://www.geeksofdoom.com/2012/03/10/wait-what-galaxy-quest-was-initially-r-rated
The best best is probably a “For Your Consideration” copy, to check if that contains the uncensored dialogue. I had a look in the usual places but nothing came up.
The Laserdisc audio as well? Nice work! 😃
I suspected it was AVGN’s review. Very funny.
The Making of Superman 64 - The Story Behind The Creation of The Worst Nintendo 64 Game of All Time
Regardless of any interference by Warner, Titus was simply a crap software house. Most of their releases were dreadful.
The longplay, for those with the stamina or masochism to endure…
Ah, I failed to spot, “This is not a SCOPE print.” Yes, crazy.
Out of curiosity, were 16mm sources very likely used for the 80s TV broadcasts of the Star Wars films?
Then you need to play Superman 64 post-haste.
Perfect sense. 😃
If you can answer another question related to this topic, why would TV companies use 16mmm over 35mm for their telecasts? Was it because of technical reasons or were the 16mm prints just cheaper to obtain?
Understood. Thanks for the thorough explanation. 😃
For the benefit of people such as myself who aren’t that clued up on film prints, can you please go into further detail about why 16mm is avoided unless you can’t obtain the film on 35mm?