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#214739
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HDMI & DVI Vs Component Video
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214739/action/topic#214739
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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
As I was pondering this question, it occured to me - since DVD is a component video source, the component video connection would be outstanding, but does a given DVD player keep the video signal in its digital form for transfer through the digital outputs (DVI/HDMI)? If so, then you would get a purer signal between the player and the display device - i.e no digital->analog conversion inside player to analog->digital conversion inside the display device. (Do any current analog TVs have these digital inputs? I would guess no, but I wouldn't put it past a manufacturer to include one just to impress the customers. )


DVI is basically digital RGB. DVD players with DVI outputs first convert the video on the disc from its digital component colorspace into digital RGB, and that's what is sent to the display. Enthusiasts who know the difference consider a component > RGB conversion a downgrade because color information is lost. Some people still prefer an analog component video connection over DVI because they feel the color is superior on some displays.

HDMI is compatible with DVI because it handles digital RGB. However, HDMI is also capable of carrying a true digital component signal. Some DVD players with HDMI outputs support digital component output. I can't think of any displays off the top of my head that accept it, but there may be some. There are some high-end scalers that accept digital component via HDMI because it's preferable to work in the original colorspace during deinterlacing/scaling even if the signal is finally converted into digital RGB before being sent to the display.

It's possible to hack the DVI standard to carry digital component signals, but it's messy and non-standard.

And yes, there are many analog displays (CRTs and CRT projection TVs) with DVI and HDMI inputs.
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#214078
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214078/action/topic#214078
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Originally posted by: skyman8081
My concern with Blu-ray is that so much of it is riding on the PS3 right now. And since there is a lot of consumer badwill towards the PS3 at the moment. If that carries over until 11/17, Blu-ray could look mightily fucked.


I think gamers are overestimating the potential effect of the PS3 on BluRay's success in much the same way they often overstate the PS2's effect on DVD's success. DVD would be exactly where it is today even if the PS2 hadn't supported DVD playback.

If BluRay is to survive, it'll be on its own merits as a home video platform.
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#213867
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Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213867/action/topic#213867
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Originally posted by: THX
Originally posted by: Davis
Why did everyone love Star Wars when Lucas repeatedly claimed they would NOT be available on DVD, and now AFTER an announcement that it WILL see the light of day again, everyone's through with SW. It's kinda weird. This is a big step in the right direction.

This is exactly what is baffling me.


Before the announcement, there was a lot of hope we could change his mind. After the announcement, we were elated because we thought we were finally getting what we wanted. With the confirmation that the OOT will be of less than acceptable quality, our spirits have fallen again.

End result: we're more pissed off now than we were before. I don't find it baffling at all.
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#213812
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The Non-Biased PS3 Thread
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213812/action/topic#213812
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Originally posted by: Number20
But if you look at the percentages of homes with HDTV in the US and the current market growth rate, you will see that adoption is going at a snails pace at best. It has been said that at current rates, it will take 20 to 30 years for over 60% of US households to have HDTV.

Bolded for emphasis. Adoption rates will pick up as prices continue to drop. And within five years, every TV sold at retail will be HD compatible.


Originally posted by: MeBeJedi
(BTW, it just occured to me: I've not seen much talk about the sound formats that HD-DVD or Blu-Ray will use. Anyone care to clue me in? AC3, PCM, Meridian Lossless packaging?)

[EDIT] I will say this. On my last trip to Fry's, I saw HD-DVD releases, and they looked rather interesting. However, when I went to the DVD player section, there were no HD-DVD players. At best, I saw players that would upconvert to 720P. Has anyone done any research on those? (not that I intend to spend money on a stopgap technology, but I was just curious.)


Initial releases will most likely feature standard DD/DTS soundtracks to maintain compatibility with older audio equipment. Every release needs to have DD for this very reason. I think the most popular codecs used on HD-DVD and BluRay after production ramps up will be the new lossless codecs from Dolby (Dolby TrueHD) and DTS (DTS-HD).

The only HD-DVD players out right now are Toshiba's. At Best Buy, they set up a special endcap with a Westinghouse 1080p LCD to demo the material. It's really nice. BluRay is launching next month, and I'm curious to see how the marketing compares to HD-DVD's, which is dreadful. Samsung's player is coming out next month with LG, Pioneer, Panasonic, and Sony following with BluRay players in August/September.
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#213806
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Why I'm not so worried anymore
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213806/action/topic#213806
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Originally posted by: GundarkHunter
Did you change the settings on your DVD player? Most come from the factory set for 4:3 or 4:3 letterbox. You need to set the display seeting to WIDE or 16:9, depending on your player. Every disc you've listed is anamorphic.


What he said. Your DVD player is set to 4:3.

Also, keep in mind that scope films (2.35:1) like LOTR will still have slim black bars on the top and bottom on 16:9 displays due to their wider aspect ratio.
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#213447
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Try to take it easy with the Lucas bashing.
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213447/action/topic#213447
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I know a lot of you are frustrated. I am too, though I've grown less and less attached to Star Wars as Lucas continues to disregard his fans more and more.

I have no problem with valid criticisms of George Lucas. You can even call the guy an asshole on occasion if it makes you feel better about the whole thing. However, praying for his death is going a bit too far.

Occasional venting is totally fine, but let's try to keep our comments constructive from now on.

Thanks.
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#213042
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The Official Lucasfilm Response
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/213042/action/topic#213042
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Originally posted by: iamstillhiro1112
I read the anamophic faq things posted in the forum


Too bad you didn't understand it.

There were two morons over at HTF in the Star Wars thread who also argued that anamorphic enhancement on a DVD was somehow changing the original film--both of them members for over 5 years. They got railed by the other members.

You're likely to receive the same treatment here. We don't take kindly to dumbasses.
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#212154
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212154/action/topic#212154
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With some of the posts I'm seeing around here, I'm almost convinced this release really is exactly what the majority of Star Wars fans truly deserve.

Kind of sad how people are ready to accept whatever Lucas throws at them in the hopes that he'll bless us with a copy of the holy trilogy that finally meets industry standards.

Count me out.
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#212129
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Kubrick: Vinyl Trilogy (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212129/action/topic#212129
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Kubrick's insistence on using open matte 4:3 for home video presentations came about after he saw what happened to 2001 when it was panned and scanned. If he were alive today and witnessed the very wide acceptance of widescreen DVDs and the fairly quick adoption rate of HDTVs, I think he would've given the widescreen blessing to future home video releases of his older films.

Full Metal Jacket, which was 1.85:1 in theaters but opened up to 1.37:1 for DVD release, has been released by Warner Brothers in 1.85:1 on HD-DVD.
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#212050
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$36 pre-order (AR) for all 3 titles...anyone found it cheaper??
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212050/action/topic#212050
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Originally posted by: xpfshostI see NO wisdom in not buying these. Lucas will be justified in the future by saying, "See...I tried to dump these things in '06 and nobody bought them".


It's precisely this attitude that has encouraged Lucas to take advantage of fan loyalty by issuing a release that isn't worthy of even the smallest independent studios.

Nobody would buy this release if it were any other movie. It would be considered unacceptable.
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#210656
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New DVDs NOT 16x9
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210656/action/topic#210656
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Originally posted by: THX
It's good news any way you look at it. Until May 3rd we all thought LFL might never release the OUT. Now they are, it demonstrates they're interested in making money from it. All we have to do is demonstrate that they can and subsequent releases will be better.


Call me crazy, but I kinda thought the whole point of the petition was to demonstrate the market for the theatrical cuts.

There's no way I'm giving Lucas more money as a demonstration of my undying loyalty to Star Wars. Seriously, if this news turns out to be true, fuck him.

Excuse me while I go watch Return of the King.