Jay

Possessed said:

yhwx said:

I’m very tired.

You’re pretty all the time.

Made funnier due to misreading the quoted post.

Handman said:

Warbler said:

Possessed said:

Dude you really need to chill. He told you to stop sighing without explanation. He didn’t ban you for expressing your opinion.

actually he did once. Remember the 2nd temp ban he gave me?

I’m surprised you went with that instead of the recent “comparing someone to a Nazi will result in a ban” post in response to the “No one was banned for comparing us to Nazis” post. But that’s just me 😛.

I was trying to make the point that we’ve traditionally been very lax when it comes to receiving criticism and typically haven’t responded by banning members even when thoroughly provoked (and the 2006 “forum Nazis” incident was specifically designed to get us to ban the offenders just so they could make their point).

But yes, comparing another forum member to a Nazi is a problem. It’s hyperbole that allows its user to avoid presenting an actual argument. Of course, context is a factor (i.e., “Soup Nazi”).

darth_ender said:

I am for being kinder to people and I admit that I wasn’t always nice to the new members. I don’t mind some stricter enforcement. But the constant weight of a potential ban for a bad day like today is ridiculous. We should all be able to prop each other up during challenging times.

The first sentence in this quote is, by far, my biggest driver for stricter moderation — not because I want OT.com to be a sterile Disney theme park ride where we welcome everyone by singing “It’s a Small World”, but because nobody deserves to be harassed simply for showing up and not immediately blending in.

And yes, moderators may step in if it looks like senior members having a spat don’t appear to be on the path to resolving it themselves. The months-long grudge matches are over. If a “bad day” turns into “bad days” and there’s no end in sight, you can expect us to talk to you about it.

However, no one will ever be banned for expressing their opinion about this place as long as it doesn’t get personal. A little over 10 years ago, we were being compared to Nazis due to some moderator actions, and yet no one got banned. You can feel safe knowing that you can be the same jerks to us you’ve always been (winky…face?).

TV’s Frink said:

Are we allowed to express approval after they come back with a sock and post in this very thread before getting banned again?

That was definitely a boneheaded move.

Please note that we keep this thread alive to serve as a mechanism for announcing or explaining the reasons certain bans occur.

It is NOT an outlet for you to express your approval of (or joy at) users being banned, regardless of the reason.

Users are banned temporarily because their infractions aren’t serious enough to be removed permanently; negative comments about them while they’re gone aren’t conducive to a friendly atmosphere when they return.

Warbler said:

I hope your ban is not permanent.

It’s not.

RayRogers said:

kk650 said:

RayRogers said:

22GB V2 is 1080p BD25 compliant, right?

From the screencaps you can see that the top and bottom bars have been cropped to maximise image quality. If you want to make this release a playable blu-ray, you would need to reintroduce the top and bottom black bar to have the 1920x1080 ratio you need.

So you didn’t make a BD25 version at all. Typical.

You might get more help from people if you didn’t act like an entitled ass. Make your own BD25 and offer it to the community if you think it’s something people would like.

There’s no specific forum rule about what you just did, but consider it a warning anyway.

My impression so far is that it’s great on my Windows 10 box and I’ll probably use it there (happy to have a good alternative to Chrome), but it’s a bit of a dog on my MacBook Pro. High energy usage as already mentioned by others and not-so-great performance overall (somewhat choppy scrolling, laggy UI). Probably sticking with Safari for now.

Jeebus said:

Jay said:

Jeebus said:

Why is it Apple’s job to coddle the users and make sure they don’t accidentally fuck something up?

If we lived in the world you envision, microwave ovens would continue to run even if you opened the door. Users don’t deserve to have their faces burned off just because they make a mistake.

I would say it’s more like the microwave runs perfectly fine, as if it were a normal microwave; but if you trust your skills, you can open up the back panel and tweak the microwave to have a cooler looking timer, or even supercharge the microwave to heat really fast. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you may accidentally mess up the wiring and the microwave will stop running as well, or maybe even stop running at all; but it’s usually alright in the end because you can rollback the microwave to before you tweaked it at all.

I think this is a key difference between more advanced PC users and Mac users. PC users like to tweak, often as a hobby. I built my gaming PC years ago and have swapped out numerous parts since then, which I enjoy. Mac users see their computers as a tool for accomplishing tasks. I like my Mac, but to me, it’s a toaster. I make the toast, then I walk away and forget about it.

Dek Rollins said:

Jay said:

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Also: y’all should use Macs.

If you’re into graphic design or video editing, sure. I am not.

This is a misconception that a lot of people have about Macs: they’re only for artsy-fartsy people. That’s just not true. They’re for everybody, from the lest competent computer user to a visual artist to a web programmer. That last one, I think, is a particularly important point, as there was a bit of an exodus from Windows and other platforms to the Mac for programmers in the last decade.

The mass migration within the development and IT fields from Microsoft products to Apple products has been staggering, and these aren’t unskilled users. MS was caught completely off guard by it and they were smart to push into the cloud as much as they have; they’ve been pretty successful there, thanks in no small part to their increased focus on design and usability.

The price comparison is a persistent myth that refuses to die. Similarly configured PCs cost similarly to Macs, and companies that switch to Apple products experience lower support costs and less time spent helping non-technical staff.

Jeebus said:

Why is it Apple’s job to coddle the users and make sure they don’t accidentally fuck something up?

If we lived in the world you envision, microwave ovens would continue to run even if you opened the door. Users don’t deserve to have their faces burned off just because they make a mistake.

I feel like this is a really bad comparison. I’ve never known a Windows machine to harm the user because they made a simple mistake (and who opens a microwave while it’s running anyways?). The only thing you have to understand with Windows is, don’t move/delete the C drive, don’t move/delete system 32, and you’ll figure it all out from there! They’re really simple to use, and you only need to have a deep understanding of its machanics if you want build/repair it yourself.

I wasn’t comparing Windows to an open microwave 😃 Just making a point about usability. Preventing users from making mistakes isn’t coddling, it’s good design.

And I’ve seen plenty of people at the office open the microwave without stopping it first, because they know it’s going to stop for them.

Besides, you absolutely have complete access to everything on a Mac, just not necessarily via the GUI, and they’re fairly configurable.

This is still a problem. I should be allowed to do anything I want with my computer, and the OS should allow me to do so easily.

That’s a matter of opinion. The nice thing about OS X is that most Mac users think it looks good out of the box. Users like tweaking Windows because many find it (subjectively) ugly. I created a custom skin for my Windows 10 gaming PC, but I feel no compulsion to do so with my Mac, and I don’t care that I can’t.

yhwx said:

chyron8472 said:

yhwx said:

Also: y’all should use Macs.

If you’re into graphic design or video editing, sure. I am not.

This is a misconception that a lot of people have about Macs: they’re only for artsy-fartsy people. That’s just not true. They’re for everybody, from the lest competent computer user to a visual artist to a web programmer. That last one, I think, is a particularly important point, as there was a bit of an exodus from Windows and other platforms to the Mac for programmers in the last decade.

The mass migration within the development and IT fields from Microsoft products to Apple products has been staggering, and these aren’t unskilled users. MS was caught completely off guard by it and they were smart to push into the cloud as much as they have; they’ve been pretty successful there, thanks in no small part to their increased focus on design and usability.

The price comparison is a persistent myth that refuses to die. Similarly configured PCs cost similarly to Macs, and companies that switch to Apple products experience lower support costs and less time spent helping non-technical staff.

Jeebus said:

Why is it Apple’s job to coddle the users and make sure they don’t accidentally fuck something up?

If we lived in the world you envision, microwave ovens would continue to run even if you opened the door. Users don’t deserve to have their faces burned off just because they make a mistake.

Besides, you absolutely have complete access to everything on a Mac, just not necessarily via the GUI, and they’re fairly configurable. Apple took a decidedly different approach to iOS with its walled garden, and given all the security flaws in the various flavors of Android clogging the market, I can’t say it wasn’t the right one. I get annoyed that I can’t place the icons exactly as I’d like on my iPhone’s home screen, but with stories practically every week of some app on the Play Store logging user’s sensitive data and sending it God knows where, I choose to put up with a less-configurable UI. Anroid’s openness makes it inherently less secure.

https://github.com/jaysylvester/comitium/issues/162

https://github.com/jaysylvester/comitium/issues/161

Lately, the quality of discussion fills me with pride. Great work, everyone.

oojason has my full support. We start banning people if this sort of thing continues, and I’m inclined to leave the bans in place for an extended period of time — well after the premiere of TLJ and into the new year.

SilverWook said:

Since this thread jogged my memory, was King verboten for book reports for anyone else in high school back in the day?

I did a book report on The Dark Half in 9th grade, which would’ve been around 1990 or so.

I don’t recall having a “no” list, but my English teachers were almost always the coolest/my favorites, which probably contributed to my majoring in English in college.

Harmy’s hardwork

The community had the same issues with people selling various OUT preservations back in the DVD days. Complaining to ebay did nothing that I can remember, and I’d prefer not to raise our profile any higher than it already is. We have a nice thing going where people are being allowed to work around the lack of an official OUT Blu-ray release without the copyright owners bringing the hammer down. Let’s keep it that way.

This is just part of being a content producer in the fan edit/preservation community. Somebody is going to put your work on a disc and sell it. No way around it.

It didn’t go well. The launch was barely publicized, denying the new HUD secretary news coverage as he visited his hometown of Detroit. In other cities, Carson praised programs targeted for budget cuts, a blunder that suggested he hadn’t been properly coached by staff.

This part irks me. Carson believes these programs work and publicly praises them, but only because his staff hasn’t coached their leader on the proper talking points.

We have very few leaders in positions of power — mostly just talking heads with advisors.

CatBus said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-lawyers-seek-to-undercut-muellers-russia-investigation/2017/07/20/232ebf2c-6d71-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?utm_term=.a974045f12c0

Trump has asked his advisers about his power to pardon aides, family members and even himself in connection with the probe, according to one of those people. A second person said Trump’s lawyers have been discussing the president’s pardoning powers among themselves.

Trump’s legal team declined to comment on the issue. But one adviser said the president has simply expressed a curiosity in understanding the reach of his pardoning authority, as well as the limits of Mueller’s investigation.

“This is not in the context of, ‘I can’t wait to pardon myself,’ ” a close adviser said.

Of how I do revel in the fact that the President can only pardon federal crimes. RICO, money laundering, fraud, tax evasion, they can all be prosecuted by states. Schneiderman may end up being the hero in this piece too. Although Trump may be roomies with Snowden by the time it gets around to that (assuming Snowden’s place is watertight).

My biggest hope is that the Trump empire is brought crashing down with the entire family rendered penniless and inert due to RICO asset forfeiture.

LexX, can you describe what you were doing at the time and the browser you use? The fixed header is supposed to hide itself automatically if you zoom in on an image, and while zoomed, the scroll should be locked so the header doesn’t appear and block the X. The only bug I’ve seen is that if you zoom an image and then resize your browser window, the header reappears, blocking the X.

I think I can fix that though. Binding the escape key is also a good idea.

yhwx said:

https://daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/syntax#p

PARAGRAPHS AND LINE BREAKS

A paragraph is simply one or more consecutive lines of text, separated by one or more blank lines. (A blank line is any line that looks like a blank line — a line containing nothing but spaces or tabs is considered blank.) Normal paragraphs should not be indented with spaces or tabs.

The implication of the “one or more consecutive lines of text” rule is that Markdown supports “hard-wrapped” text paragraphs. This differs significantly from most other text-to-HTML formatters (including Movable Type’s “Convert Line Breaks” option) which translate every line break character in a paragraph into a <br /> tag.

When you do want to insert a <br /> break tag using Markdown, you end a line with two or more spaces, then type return.

Yes, this takes a tad more effort to create a <br />, but a simplistic “every line break is a <br />” rule wouldn’t work for Markdown. Markdown’s email-style blockquoting and multi-paragraph list items work best — and look better — when you format them with hard breaks.

This doesn’t align with our implementation. Inserting a hard line break does create a <br> tag in the HTML, because asking users to end a line with two spaces to insert a break isn’t intuitive at all; it’s a simple config option in the parser we use. However, a single line break doesn’t start a new paragraph, therefore the first line following the quote is included in the last paragraph within the quote. This is also unintuitive in my opinion, but that’s what the parser does (and what other implementations do from what I’ve seen).

You should probably avoid Gruber’s definition of Markdown. It’s outdated and some of his rules don’t apply any more.

When you insert a single line break in the editor, it creates a single line break within the current paragraph. Two new lines are required for a new paragraph, which is why the last line in these examples ends up bundled with the quote. Pretty sure this is by design in Markdown.

However, I think I can mitigate it by inserting an empty bracket at the end of the quoted post in the reply form. That way, even if this happens…

> Quoted text.
>
Reply here.

…it’ll work.

Is this new? I don’t know if this is a bug, so much as the way Markdown works.

The unfortunate truth is that people don’t read unless forced to do so. We could sticky a new user welcome topic to the top of every page and most visitors still wouldn’t read it. It’s also important to know that we receive most first-time visitor traffic from search engines, so new users often end up directly within a popular topic rather than the index or forum pages. It’s likely they’ll sign up right there and post immediately without digging around first.

I think we’re sometimes a bit rough on new users here. I understand it can be annoying when someone shows up and asks a question that’s been answered a thousand times already, but we have a lot of content for someone new to restorations and fan edits to go through. It’s important to remember that these people are fans of the same things we are and a little help and patience are more productive than admonishment.

When ot.com was new, it had a reputation for being a welcoming environment for Star Wars fans of all kinds — from casual to rabid. It’s natural for communities to lose that “family” feel as they grow, but I’d like to think we can still be kind and helpful to new users. We’ll always have people who sign up, post once to get an invitation or link to something, and never come back, but I don’t want that possibility to drag down how we handle all newcomers.

Regarding controlling or limiting new users’ posts, I already have some automated control on the roadmap (new users can’t start new topics until they’ve made X replies to existing topics, for example), but that’s geared more toward spam control. I’d consider implementing a probationary period requiring mod approval for a new member’s first 5 posts or so.

Banned user weirdness is fixed.

Being able to click through all the images in a post in full screen is planned, yes.