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#1333054
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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DominicCobb said:

Based on those screenshots the prequels look absolutely normal to me. Maybe TPM’s a little waxy but that’s nothing new. Hate me all you want but the OT looks like dirt.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but I’ll be damned if it isn’t a nice change from the 2011 masters. But you’re right, they could be better.

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#1332995
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Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4k UHD -- 27 DISC Boxed Set -- 3/31/2020
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I trust MadVR in terms of colors, compared to the process used here. Nonetheless, you can get a good bearing on the detail of each transfer. Here are some more:






CLONES still looks bad, SITH looks great, and the Original Trilogy all looks fine. Not great, but fine. I’m just glad we are finally done with the 2004 masters.

I didn’t expect these to look any different than the D+ streaming versions, and they don’t outside of improved fidelity.

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#1319593
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Broom Kid said:

I still don’t understand what the hell the editors were trying to do with that awkward “Darth Vader’s Death” remix.

They could have just left that whole scene completely unscored until Kylo showed up and it would have worked better. Better silence than dragging out the Return of the Jedi 2CD set and chopping it up.

THIS.

I know I’ve said it multiple times, but JJ splicing in pre-existing music is horribly lazy.

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#1316571
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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It’s not just nearly identical, it’s lifted from the soundtrack from AOTC. There are also snippets lifted from TLJ, TFA, ROTJ and ROTS sprinkled throughout the film.

He did the same thing by dropping in “Burning Homestead” into TFA during Rey and Kylo’s fight.

Why he couldn’t get Williams to simply rescore them is beyond me.

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#1313055
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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The more I think about RISE OF SKYWALKER, the more it irks me. With FORCE AWAKENS and LAST JEDI, it was the opposite. I let those two settle for a few days, saw them again, and started to really like them.

I find it hilarious that all the promotional materials cited this as “THE END OF THE SAGA,” yet in the final moments where all the planets are celebrating, we only see planets from the original trilogy… as well as Jakku.

Not Naboo, Geonosis, Kamino, etc.

This film tries to wrap up the saga, but also tries its best to ignore the prequels (and LAST JEDI). You can’t have your cake and eat it too, though J.J. thinks otherwise.

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#1312357
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Tack said:

There is simply an energy that I feel when watching the film that makes me able to accept much more of what other critics are finding issue with. I came in wishing for an emotional experience, and I do think that’s what I received.

This.

Despite the films flaws, it was an emotional experience. The music cues, the twists, etc. The film is not perfect, but damn if it doesn’t make you feel something.

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#1306949
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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4throck said:

All modern TVs come with a “calibrated” mode, usually called “movie” or “cinema”.
That’s quite close to calibrated settings, and unless you have measurement equipment (*), it’s as good as you will get.
If your TV is 1-2 years old it should be quite good really.

I have my TV set like this (movie), but with higher brightness that default for SDR. I see no problem with personal preference, as long as you keep the baseline in mind.

  • Yes, the correct white point will look yellowish. It’s usually even marked as “warm2” on many sets.
    But it IS the correct white reference.

You can check this even with no equipment.

  • Get 6500k (D65) led lamps.
  • If you have a window, look at an overcast sky.

Whites on the TV should match these references 😉

I’ve never understood this approach, as both an avid film viewer and cinematographer.

White is white, not yellow tinted. These modes are often called “cinema,” but never once in a theater have I seen a film projected with a “warm” color temperature, unless it was intentionally color timed that way. If anything, many theaters project their films with a more “cold” setting, which is equally as ugly.

I always keep my sets at “normal” and then tune in saturation, tint, etc.

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#1305957
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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yotsuya said:
And it is exactly what it looks like when I try to play on the Disney+ app on my TV. But not when I watch in a web browser or stream it through chromecast. I prefer to share what the image really looks like, not a partial and incomplete version.

There are some HDR to SDR converted stills out there now over at the Star Wars Trilogy forum, if the lack of tone mapping really sets you off that much.

I posted these “incomplete” screengrabs so people could see the full detail in the 4K image, FWIW. I do hope someone was able to properly compare them to the Blu-ray.

It’s a clear 1080p upscale to my eyes.

44rh1n said:

JawsTDS said:

Harmy said:

Can that be done? And would it yield a 10 or even 12 bit image? That would be awesome!
As for whether this changes anything for Despecialized, yes, the change is that I will now definitely be waiting for the 4K Blu-Ray or at least a full bitrate 4k web-dl as a source.

If you’re asking if it’s possible to extract the flat image? Yes. The HDR grade is stored as metadata on UHD discs, so you can easily retrieve the flat image. As for the bit depth, I believe they’re all 10bit video files.

Well, technically it’s the HDR Output Display Transform (ODT) that’s included in the metadata, as well as the individual shot-for-shot metadata tweaks (HDR custom trims). But the grade itself is actually performed on the log level of the image, so the flat image still has a grade applied to it (just not the HDR ODT). In other words, the “log” image is a graded log image, but it just doesn’t have a contrast curve applied to it yet.

Very interesting, thank you for the explanation!