Jasmer

ChainsawAsh said:

1. Yes, the specs are the same.
2. No, don’t downmix the 5.1, use the 2.0 track - the 5.1 is a specifically constructed upmix of multiple 2.0 and 5.1 tracks to recreate the 1977 70mm six-track mix as closely as possible and is not suitable for 2.0-channel downmixing. The 2.0 tracks are all authentic, direct-from-laserdisc stereo tracks.

Hi ChainsawAsh!

A few questions:

Where can I read about the audio-specific things you mention? I haven’t been able to find these detailed track notes.

Someone advised the same and mentioned this, “…stick with the one that is already 2.0. It is already the matrixed Dolby Stereo that can be decoded into 4.0 tracks by any pro-logic decoder.”
Can you confirm this?

Do you have any feelings about the mono mix? I had not originally thought to include that in the final squished file, but someone mentioned that it was unique. I do know it was designed to recreate the original 1977 theater experience. (I saw it in 1977 at the Chinese Theater on Hollywood Blvd!) Other than that fact, is there any other reason I might consider keeping it? Typically I would go for only 5.1 and 2.0. In what situation would it be used? 5.1 system? 2.0 devices?

Excellent info!

Thank you!

yotsuya said:

The 5.1 is recreated from several sources so if you need a 2.0 track, stick with the one that is already 2.0. It is already the matrixed Dolby Stereo that can be decoded into 4.0 tracks by any pro-logic decoder. I personally like doing the same thing, but I always keep the mono soundtrack as it is so unique.

Hi @yotsuya! Please tell me what you like about the mono track? I would not have thought to include the mono track in the final squished file. I have heard it is as close as you can get to the 1977 theater experience. (I saw STAR WARS in 1977 at the Chinese Theater on Hollywood Blvd!) Other than that fact, what appeals to you about it?

Where can I read about the audio-specific things you mention? I haven’t been able to find detailed track notes.

Thanks

Update: Bluto posted a guide for Usenet here! Thanks!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Guide-to-Downloading-Projects-from-Usenet/id/69476

Hello,

Would anyone happen to know the answer to these questions?
(re: English 5.1/Stereo Audio tracks on SW v2.7)

First, I don’t find any audio track notes past SW v2.5. In v2.5 notes I find:
• TRACK 1) 5.1 1977 70mm six track mix @ 640Kbps
• TRACK 2) 2.0 1977 35mm stereo mix @ 224Kbps

I am converting with Subler for Mac > mkv to m4a
During conversion, I am removing all tracks, except two:
• Home theater (5.1)
• Stereo devices (2.0) (iPhone, iPad, etc that can’t read the 5.1 track)

My questions are:

1. Are the specs for v2.7 the same as v2.5?
2. For the stereo track, would it be better to downmix the 5.1 track (@ 640Kbps) to 2.0? Or just use the 2.0 (@ 224Kbps)?

But really, the Kbps numbers are just one factor. What is the origin of each of these tracks?
I do not know the differences between either track. Did the 35mm release have a different mix than the 70mm release (sound effects, music mix, etc). If so, what are the differences?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jas

Hello,

Would anyone happen to know the answer to these questions?
(re: English 5.1/Stereo Audio tracks on SW v2.7)

First, I don’t find any audio track notes past SW v2.5. In v2.5 notes I find:
• TRACK 1) 5.1 1977 70mm six track mix @ 640Kbps
• TRACK 2) 2.0 1977 35mm stereo mix @ 224Kbps

I am converting with Subler for Mac > mkv to m4a
During conversion, I am removing all tracks, except two:
• Home theater (5.1)
• Stereo devices (2.0) (iPhone, iPad, etc that can’t read the 5.1 track)

My questions are:

1. Are the specs for v2.7 the same as v2.5?
2. For the stereo track, would it be better to downmix the 5.1 track (@ 640Kbps) to 2.0? Or just use the 2.0 (@ 224Kbps)?

But really, the Kbps numbers are just one factor. What is the origin of each of these tracks?
I do not know the differences between either track. Did the 35mm release have a different mix than the 70mm release (sound effects, music mix, etc). If so, what are the differences?

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Jas

Thank you Bluto! My apologies for the delay, I had notifications turned off.

For anyone else reading this post…

The Ultimate Introductory Guide has been updated 8/28/2019 to confirm the ulozto links are dead.

Harmy has also confirmed this and is looking for an alternate solution. For the moment, usenet is the only confirmed location for mkv. Details available in the Ultimate Introductory Guide, Section 5

https://docs.google.com/document/u/8/d/1yLsvexWBVM8IYSGopKuSfsGk5YIgCwQWd23bqb5ryD4/pub

Thank you for the help!

Thanks again, I just responded to you in the public thread.

It wasn’t the extras that accounted for the size difference, I just found a version of the trilogy someone had compressed, from about 4GB per film vs the original 20GB per film. Obviously a major quality difference. So I’ll keep looking!

Thanks,

Jas

So, I answered question one and two.

The versions available on ulozto are only 14GB for the entire trilogy, DTS is non-existant, as well as other audio tracks and they are compressed to death.

As I see on the pastebin NFO for the Trilogy the sizes are as follows.

SW 2.7: 19.9 GB
ESB 2.0: 19.7 GB
ROTJ 2.5: 19.2 GB

Result: I’m back where I started. All official pastebin links are dead. If ANYONE has any suggestions on how to obtain these in their full video and audio format I would be eternally grateful.

PS I own the official Blu-ray discs as well as the Laser Disc Trilogy with the Book, DVD Trilogy and the VHS Trilogy.

May The Force Be With You,

Jas

Two questions, the trilogy (IV 2.7, V 2.0, VI 2.5) mkv file (not direct from Harmy) has AAC LC 2.0 Audio. Is the official Harmy release AAC LC 2.0 Audio? Basically, is his release stereo?

Also, the trilogy mkv is approx. 14GB. I believe I read someone mention it’s 19GB. Which is it? If it’s 19GB I’m thinking the extras are missing perhaps?

Thanks so much,

Jas

Thanks Jason,

I messaged him yesterday. Will probably be a while before I hear from him. I’ll figure it out.

Best,

Jas

Hii oojason,

I’m Jas, thanks for responding quickly! I’m an Apple Certified Technical Coordinator and I’ve read all the guides old and new, I’m well versed in rar applications, I’ve tried J Downloader and Free Rapid. Free Rapid says error, J Downloader says error, files are no longer there. I understand I can use torrents and rar and mkv downloads on ulozto dot net.

But, I want to get the MKV files (IV 2.7, V 2.0, VI 2.5) directly from Harmy so I know they are 100% complete with all extras.

The pastebin/ulozto links provided/linked to in the Google Doc do not work.

The link you provided me is great, but when I search ulozto for HARMY DEED IV MANUAL, for example, it only returns results for IV 2.5.

How can I get the MKV IV 2.7, V 2.0, VI 2.5 files directly from Harmy? There is document after document after document on web pages and google docs and facebook with some conflicting information, some old, some new, some updated, some not and I’ve read all of them.

Most importantly, the pastebin/ulozto links are dead. Perhaps you can tell me the person who posted them and that person can tell me where the links are?

Thanks for your help oojason,

Jas

Hi! Despecialized problem with downloads. Using FRD the links did not work. Even when I try to use the link directly in my browser the link goes nowhere. For example, this is a dead link below.

link removed by moderator - please see the post below

Any ideas? Thanks so much.

Edit by moderator…

As of the 22nd October, 2019 - HanDuet has updated his superb and helpful ‘The Ultimate Introductory Guide’…

HanDuet said:

** ANNOUNCEMENT **
Downloads are ONLINE again for Harmy’s Star Wars Trilogy Despecialized Editions!

TUIG updated to v6.0.
https://goo.gl/1WGHBA

This major revision of the guide (and supplemental references) replaced all obsolete content, provides access to to active download sources, and includes many other improvements. Thanks for everyone’s patience; it took a lot of research, conversations, and coordination to make this happen! Enjoy, and please send me a PM with any feedback.

Status updates about TUIG are posted on my Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/HanDuet.SWDE/

Thanks to SnooPac for significant help making this all work, and to Harmy for his ongoing willingness to provide me quick feedback as I prepare and publish these “official” guide updates.