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#320717
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Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *)
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TJDavis did an incredible job on the sound work for that Coruscant chase. I threw the idea out there that it would be really great if we could scrap the audio in that entire scene (knowing full well that was impossible) so that we could interject some REAL Star Wars action music in there from the OT... and he totally floored me when he actually pulled it off...and pulled it off in a way that's so close to the original mix that you'd almost never know it was completely redone. We took the music from the sail barge duel in ROTJ and it's just sooo cool. It feels so much more like Star Wars now. It's great, I can't wait for you guys to hear it.

That cover is amazing, RoccondilRinon!

I'm a huge fan of DVD cover art. So, anything that anyone wants to submit would be way more than welcome....

I know you guys are kind of flying blind here because you're not really sure what to expect. And it's hard for me to explain without you actually seeing it. I think the trailers really show what we're emphasizing in each one though.

The focus of Reborn centers around the father and the son as the central characters and hinges on the fact that both Luke and Anakin are presented with essentially the same path, they just happen to make different choices.

Also, keep in mind that film one, "Star Wars: Reborn" will retell the events of ANH and AOTC.

Then, film two "The Empire Strikes Back: Reborn" will feature ESB and the first half of ROTS.

And film three, "Return of the Jedi: Reborn" will include ROTJ and the second half of ROTS.

The covers should reflect those combinations...

But, yeah, Guys...have at it! We'd love to see anything you can come up with! :)



--ID


P.S. - Just finishing up the menus for Indy. Almost done.
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#320227
Topic
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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Yes. And I download torrents all the time, but I've never actually submitted one. So, I hope that goes smoothly. :) It's funny, as many years as I've been on these boards and working on Star Wars, I've never gotten to the point of actually releasing something. It's like making it to the next level of a video game. Haha...

Now I have to figure out how to do all this.

I'm thinking about releasing an XVID first.
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#320180
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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Just wanted to give a quick update and say that the movie is finished, everything turned out great. I'm really, really pleased with it. And now I just have to learn how to author a DVD. I experimented with creating menus today. So, I'm gonna keep working on it.

Two things:

1) Need to know if anyone is interested in creating a DVD cover for this.

2) Need to know if anyone is interested in starting a PIF chain.

Let me know...

Thanks,

--ID





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#320046
Topic
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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Hey Erik! :)

Yeah, it's supposed to be near the palace or somewhere along the ride. It's only the one opening shot, but it works really well as it establishes the tone and setting and then transitions into the elephant trek.

The only thing that concerns me is I'm not entirely sure if it's a Bhuddist or Hindu design. But I guess it could feasibly be either since it seems that they're kind of close to the Indian - Chinese border.
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#320028
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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Owen-Lars Kenobi, those are some great suggestions. I suppose if I go through it with a fine-tooth comb, I could probably find a few things to tweak here and there.

Let me know if you guys have any other specific suggestions about Raiders and I'll take them into consideration. I'll warn you though, I'm no special effects wizard like Adywan...haha...

Max_Rebo, thank you for saying that. It needed to be said. I can never understand why some people act like we're taking scissors to the original negative when I or anyone else does a fan-edit. The original is still available and will continue to be available. What's wrong with loving a movie AND being open to an alternative experience of it? I'm doing this out of love for the film, not dislike.

One thing I've never done (all the years I've been on this forum) is use it to be rude, negative or discouraging to anyone (besides George Lucas, admittedly). For instance, I would never declare someone's work as "poor" or a "complete and utter waste of time" without at least seeing it first. And even if I had seen it and wasn't particularaly impressed by it, I'd more than likely keep my negative comments about it to myself.

All fan-edits should be personal. I'm taking the time to edit this based on my personal tastes. Just like a director makes a film based on his personal tastes and creative choices. Some directors' and producers' tastes are a little more eccentric than we'd like...hence, the emergence of the fan-edit. Instead of just editing it and keeping it for myself, I'm sharing it with the community hoping that there may be some like-minded individuals out there who might agree with some of the changes I've made, or even might just enjoy seeing a different take on a film they like to watch. And if there are parts they don't like about it, they can keep what they like and change what they don't like in their own edit. Isn't that what this is all about?

My point is, if a person claims they're "not interested in the slightest", that's fine. You're absolutely entitled to your opinion. But why bother posting again and again, or at all for that matter? There are plenty of other threads which would hopefully be of more interest to you.

Ben_Danger, for Last Crusade I intend to tone down or eliminate a lot of the slap-stick comedic elements. Marcus saying "the pen is mightier than the sword" and that type of stuff. Any suggestions you guys have for Last Crusade would be interesting to hear as well.


--ID

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#319992
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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I'm not really sure what I'd edit out of Raiders. As far as I'm concerned, it's a perfect film.

I don't know if it would be worth an entire edit to just add "Indiana Jones" to the title.

Maybe though. You have Indy nights? Haha... That sounds fun.

Do you have any ideas on what else you'd want to see changed?

--ID
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#319967
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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DarkGryphon: I'm familiar with Gunga Din though I've never seen it. I'm also aware that Temple of Doom is very strongly based on that picture even down to the name of the Thuggee cult.

Anyway, it may be a "complete and utter waste of time" for you if you're a fan of the original, but not for me, obviously, because I'm fixing things that have bothered me for years.

Before Crystal Skull, Temple of Doom was always derided as the worst of the Indy films. I've always enjoyed the story and think there are some amazing parts in it, but of course, I subscribe to the "less-is-more" opinion and think it can be salvaged and improved by trimming the silly stuff.

ChainsawAsh: Thanks for pointing that out. I had considered doing the "AND THE" in the other font and agree it does look smooshed on the screen capture. I was just trying to stay consistent with Last Crusade and Kingdom, they were both in the same font. As you mentioned, Raiders was the only deviation from that. i might try it the other way, but I'm hoping the full-rez doesn't look as smooshed.

--ID
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#319929
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Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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RoccondilRinon said:

I know this is not much more appropriate a forum than the Star Wars: REBORN thread, but I have a question for if and when you do get to #4.

I loved the movie, with a few niggles of course (mainly the silly CG monkeys and the OTT waterfall scene), but the title grated on me as much as the retitling of Raiders as "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark", on the DVD case at least (I haven't seen the DVD itself so I don't know but I hope he hasn't changed it there too). "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" is just as unwieldy — compare these two to the original, much shorter "Raiders of the Lost Ark", "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" and "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade". In addition, what relevance is the Kingdom (ie. temple) of the Crystal Skull? It could be turned into "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull", but I thought a simpler and much more fitting title would be "THE RETURN OF INDIANA JONES". It fits the B-movie ethos these films have always had so much better than the actual title. It's also appropriate given the 19-year gap since the previous film.

Would you consider including this retitling?


I actually love the title Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. I see your point, the word "kingdom" doesn't have much to do with the plot (George Lucas' idea, btw. According to the Making Of book he said "I don't care what the title is, just get the word "kingdom" in there somewhere.) But also, long titles are consistent with what's popular now. Take Star Wars, Narnia, Harry Potter, and Pirates for example...we have the brand name and then the subtitle. So, I probably wouldn't consider making this change for my version. No niggles for me. ;)

And I actually also was relieved when they finally put "Indiana Jones" in front of the Raiders title. I shelve my DVD's alphabetically. :)

And yes, Boon...I will be releasing this as soon as I throw a few finishing touches on this weekend. Then I have to figure out how to seed a torrent...never done one before. It'll be good practice.

Or maybe I can turn it over to fanedited.com for distribution...wink wink...

Thanks, Guys!

--ID



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#319899
Topic
Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *)
Time
Okay...power supply is replaced and everything is running well again.

Here's some info on that Temple of Doom edit I was telling you about:

Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit

I'm planning to do Last Crusade soon too. And yeah, Ben...I'm sure I'll end up editing Indy IV eventually... :)
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#319898
Topic
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom: The InfoDroid Edit (Released)
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I squeezed this one in while the SW: Reborn project was on hiatus.

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/TempleDVDcover1mockup1.jpg

Full Rez cover & disc art available here: http://rapidshare.com/files/123712545/TempleDVDcover1.zip.html

Here’s what I did:

-Added Lucasfilm logo to match Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.

-First shot of the film is a statue of an idol taken from a documentary called “Sacred Planet” which happens to blend in perfectly with the angles of the Paramount logo.

-Cut Kate Capshaw’s opening song and dance number and replaced it with a sequence taken from the middle of the film to evoke a much more mysterious, foreboding tone akin to Raiders and more appropriate for a movie titled “The Temple of Doom”.

-Added new titles with correct font to match the other three films in the series.

Here’s a few quick stills:

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image1.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image2.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image3.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image4.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image5.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image6.jpg

http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/sdevore1138/temple%20of%20doom/Image7.jpg

-The film now opens with the elephant ride through the jungle up to Pankot Palace.

-After Indy and the gang meet the Prime Minister, we fade from an exterior shot of the Pankot sunset, to Indy walking down the steps inside Club Obi Wan. A subtitle reads: “Shanghai, The Previous Day”.

-Cut Indy’s line “…or anything goes.” (A reference to the now cut dance number.)

-Cut Willie’s unfunny line about Nurhachi being a “real small guy”.

-Cut sidekick Wu-Han’s over-the-top death scene…although, to make it work I had to unfortunately cut Lao Che’s line “Don’t be sad, Dr. Jones. You will soon be joining him.”

-Reduced Willie’s screaming as they fall through the canopies (as much as possible without losing sound effects).

-Cut Short Round’s superfluous line “Holy smoke! Crash landing!” Now he simply says “Wow!”

-Cut Short Round’s line “Hold on to your potatoes!”

-Cut Short Round saying “Wow!..wow…” as he’s crashing through things on the Shanghai streets.

-Flipped a few shots of the rickshaw to correct continuity. Sailor and girlfriend keep swapping sides. (That’s bothered me for years.)

-Cut Short Round’s Anakin-like line “This is fun!”

-Cut Dan Aykroyd’s cameo scene. His fake English accent was annoying and his scene adds absolutely nothing to the story. Indy’s line “Owe ya a gin!” is all that remains.

-Reduced Willie’s screaming as they fall out of the airplane on the raft. (as much as possible without losing sound effects).

-Cut the extremely dated effects shot of the plane crashing on the mountain behind them.

-Cut the village shaman’s line about “Like monsoon bring darkness over all country…” because it wasn’t an answer to Indy’s question “What has happened here?” So, we cut instead to his line “They came from palace and took Shivalinga from our village.” It makes much more sense now, to me anyway.

-Cut the shaman repeating “bring back to us…bring back to us…” over and over again.

-Cut Indy and Short Round’s scene at night outside the village. Their conversation about fortune and glory didn’t add anything to the story and only served to “clue us in” that the “good luck rock” might be valuable, which is obvious anyway when Indy looks right at the camera and says “Shankara!”. The scene had terrible acting. Terrible special effects. And it bears all the signs of a post production pick-up shot.

-Now we transition from indy studying the cloth the boy gave him and saying “Shankara!” to him climbing onto the elephant the next day, beginning the elephant trek.

-Cut Indy’s line “Quit monkeying around on that thing…”

-After Indy says, “We’re not going to Dehli, Doll, we’re going to Pankot Palace.” I cut the rest of Willie’s over-the-top whining and went directly to the push-in shot of the village shaman praying.

-Cut Short Round telling the elephant “You’re my best friend…you’re my best friend.”

-Cut out some of Short Round continuing to laugh at Willie after she was tossed into the puddle. It was a little more than we needed.

-Cut the camp in the jungle scene. Way too much screaming. Plus, it looks like they’re on a movie set. The scene is funny but doesn’t really add anything to the narrative and is not at all in the spirit of Raiders, IMO.

-Since the next section of the film was pulled out and placed at the beginning for this edit, after Willie exclaims “I’m a singer! I could lose my voice!” we fade to the exterior sunset at Pankot.

-The dinner scene is completely reworked. No Beetles, no eyeball soup, no monkey brains. Only a snake minus the surprise is all that remains. A comparativly subtle reaction to the snake from Willie and Short Round is all that’s needed. The scene now has a much darker feeling to it as Indy insults his hosts by mentioning the rumored re-emergence of the Thuggee cult and the plot is nicely moved forward without cutting back to shock-schlock every two seconds. ADigitalMan proved to me in his edit that this scene could be saved, but I thought it could be taken a little further by removing the monkey brains as well. They’re great nostalgia from the 80’s, as it’s one of the signature things people remember about this movie, but seeing it now, to me it just looks very fake. Takes me out of the movie. So, my version is played very serious and we fade from an ominous look from Indy at the table to him and Short Round in the hall on the way to bring Willie some fruit…

-Re-edited Indy getting strangled in his room. It takes waaayyy to long for Short Round to wake up with all that crashing going on. So, in this version, he wakes up a lot sooner.

-Cut Short Round opening the door where the dead bodies pop out. Makes Shorty look stupid.

-Cut Willie pushing on the “breasts” of the statue. There was no point, she already had one door open that she wouldn’t go into. Why try to open another one?

-Cut entire sequence with Thuggee victim getting his heart ripped out and being lowered into the pit. Personally, I don’t really enjoy watching sustained images of organs being pulled out and guys screaming helplessly as they’re engulfed in flames. It’s just not the kind of thing I like to watch repeatedly. I’m sure some of you will disagree, but I really felt it could be made more enjoyable to watch if a lot of this stuff was toned down. The Thuggees are evil enough being creepy demon worshippers and having stolen the shankara stones AND all the village’s children.

-Cut scene with Indy and Short Round in cage with children. “You drink blood, you not wake up from nightmare.” It was just a weird scene, and full of unnecessary exposition. I think it’s scarier to NOT know what the blood does to you when they pour it down Indy’s throat.

-Cut Indy announcing an offering of “flesh and blood” to Kali. Indy’s mind is controlled by Mola Ram now…we get it.

-Cut Willie’s line “I’m not going to have anything nice to say about this place when I get back.” Overlapped Chatter Lal’s dialogue with her pleading for Indy to help her. It feels more natural this way.

-Cut Willie spitting in Indy’s face and him rubbing it in while smiling.

-Reduced some of Willie’s screaming as she’s lowered into the pit.

-Cut Short Round pleading “You’re my best friend, Indy!”

-Eliminated shot of huge fireball licking toward Willie from the pit and a few of the cutaways to her.

-Cut lackey getting konked on the head with sledgehammer ala Looney Tunes.

-Cut Mola Ram trying to rip Indy’s heart out as they’re climbing up the collapsed drawbridge. No more “Indy! Cova ya hot!”

New runtime: 1 hr 40 mins

Full DVD via Rapidshare:
http://www.faneditforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=4369

Here is a 700mb avi xvid release courtesy of Boon.
http://thepiratebay.org/tor/4250246

-ID

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#319774
Topic
Star Wars: REBORN - The Complete Saga (* unfinished project *)
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It's been an interesting week. The good news is, the hard drive I lost has miraculously popped back up again in Windows Explorer...apparently without any problems. The bad news is, as of yesterday my computer won't turn on at all anymore.

I'm pretty sure it's the power supply that's gone bad. That would explain the previous loss of power to the hard drive. The computer turned on for like 30 seconds and then it was just...off. And then there was a burning electrical smell. Yeah, it was real nice.

The thing that sucks is that I had been working on an "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" edit while TJDavis was on vacation, and it turned out GREAT! I just had a few finishing touches to put on it before my computer took a dive. I'll release it to the community once I get everything up and running again.

In other news, TJ and I actually met for the first time in person while he was vacationing in Florida. After working on this thing together and talking online and on the phone for almost three years now, it was really cool to finally meet. We went to see Indy 4, and had a laugh over all the CGI gophers and monkeys. LOL!

We also recommitted to really hitting this edit hard when he gets back to finally finish this thing so we can be "free of the carbonite" so to speak. :-)

--ID

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#319575
Topic
Young Indiana Jones... a preservation (* unfinished project *) - a mass of info & ideas
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I picked up volume three and really like some of the episodes. They're terribly slow though. Each episode could definitely be whittled down to an hour (instead of two) without really losing much of anything.

Sean Patrick Flannery is likable and does a good job as young Indy. The series suffers, however, from bad editing and sluggish pacing.

It's interesting to see the guest appearances...especially by Ian McDiarmid and Christopher Lee. And I think Carrie Fisher actually wrote the episode with Mata Hari.

It's worth seeing, though I think a lot of people simply wouldn't have the patience for it.

They need a good edit.
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#319043
Topic
Indiana Jones IV
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I saw it a second time last night, and I have to say, the second viewing was a MUCH better experience. I guess it was just the fact that I knew where all the miscues were and knew what to expect, and could pay more attention to the plot, etc.

The one glaring thing I still have a problem with though, besides all the gratuitous CGI, is a missing scene telling us how the dean got his job back after resigning...and Indy being vindicated in the eyes of the FBI. I mean, a quick 30 second scene would've done it.

Can someone tell me how Indy's actions in Akator (which no one witnessed) would've somehow vindicated him and earned him his job back, AND a promotion on top of that?