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144.  Slightly extend the shortened Vader helmet that's seen as he enters the Rebel base?  Done! example here - http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5589/facebook08.png

ASTEROIDS (additional suggestions)

145.  Include the additional TIE laserbolts (and sound fx) that were initially previewed in the early 'asteroid chase' video clip?

146.  Remove the large, non-tumbling, round-looking asteroid matte from the shot where the second chasing TIE explodes?

147.  Alter the angle of the shot where the Falcon initially enters the asteroid cave, so that it looks like it's still diving downwards at this point?

148.  Fix the 'white holes' seen behind the Falcon as it initially enters the asteroid cave, either by colouring them in so that they become part of the cave wall, or by changing them to a single entrance hole that shows the starfield perhaps?

DAGOBAH (additional suggestions)

149.  Show Yoda actually taking a bite out of Luke's food rations?  Done! example here - http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/6671/12832511630552683157200.jpg

150.  Reposition where Yoda is set down, so that he matches with the 'close-up' of him suddenly sitting on the log?  Done! example here - http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6573/facebook09.png

151.  Re-'flip' the reversed shot of Yoda getting up after he's fallen?  Existing shot shown here - http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2250/screenshot7b.png

BESPIN (additional suggestions)

152.  Remove the distracting SE 'floating spa' element seen through the Falcon's cockpit as it nears Cloud City, or make it smaller?

153.  Make the Falcon's 2 front red lights come on as it lands on the platform, to match the shots afterwards?

154.  Add a new city/sky/balcony 'railing' backdrop in the distance when Luke searches the corridors?  Done! example here - http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/7488/hallwaygoutcomp.jpg

FATHER/SON DUEL (additional suggestions)

155.  Add the hint of a deactivating lightsaber being sucked out of the big 'Vane' window alongside Luke?

156.  Move Luke's lightsaber hilt nearer to his right hand as he hangs from the walkway, so that your eye is drawn towards it better, and it doesn't remain lost amongst the other debris on the walkway?

157.  Make the flashing yellow gantry lights more consistently bright yellow in certain shots where they seem dull-looking?

158.  Fix the end of the gantry matte so that it matches the 'prop' section that Luke falls from?  Done! example here - http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/7417/trailercomp40.jpg

Okay, that's all for now, but I'll add more here when I can.

Please bear in mind that if anyone has any suggestions/or ideas, then they should ideally post them onto adywan's main 'ESB:R' thread for him and others to see/discuss over there -  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-NEW-TRAILER-AVAILABLE-NOW/topic/9060/

There are links to high quality 'Rapidshare' versions of various clips on his 1st post there.  Remember that a lot of the previews/shots already shown are still unfinished so far.

* EDIT * - Due to various reasons I've been unable to find enough time to add more to this particular compilation since I last posted here in March.  I was a little optimistic in 'reserving' most of the slots over the next 2 pages it seems!

However, since then, I've been lucky enough to receive a copy of the EMPIRE:Revisited 'workprint' from adywan...which has gone some way to answering which way he's chosen to go where some of the suggestions from everyone here are concerned...  I can only confirm that his edit is looking fabulous even in it's very incomplete 'workprint' form, and that I can't wait to see the finished version when it's done eventually...  :)

Here's a couple more 'comparison' examples that adywan has recently released though -

adywan's first test version is at the top, while the original shot is 2nd from the top, and adywan's latest versions are at the bottom -

adywan's version is at the bottom in this comparison below -

adywan's version is at the bottom in this comparison below -

* EDIT * -  it's now Jan. 2011, and another new shot has been released.  adywan's version is at the bottom in this comparison below, and it will have a '3D zoom' effect -

This is the final version of how the 'Emperor hologram' looks now in both it's 'side-on' and 'front-facing' views.  adywan's version is at the botton in both of these comparisons below -

adywan's version is at the bottom in this comparison below -

adywan's version is at the bottom in this comparison below -

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113.  Fixing jump cut when the steel gate door closes behind Luke.  Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_IthivGgA&feature=related

114.  Re-timing Luke's delayed reaction to the steel gate door closing behind him.  Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_IthivGgA&feature=related

115.  Adding scorch marks to wall where lightsabers hit.

116.  Fixing shots where lightsaber flashes show off the edges of the gantry matte.  Done! example here - http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7417/trailercomp40.jpg

117.  Removing Luke's obvious hand underneath his shirt after his hand is cut off on the gantry.  Done! (see comparison shot in 1st post)

118.  Fixing Vader's 'wobbly' helmet when on the gantry.

119.  Fixing the problem on the gantry when the flashes light up the back walls and show the visible matte painting.  Done! (see comparison shot in 1st post)

120.  Removing Vader's visible saber blade before it ignites.

ENDING:

121.  Enhancing Luke receiving his new hand.

122.  The Medical Droid can now be seen switching off to fix continuity problem.

123.  Adding new background ships to remove

THINGS NOT BEING DONE:

Not adding landing crafts to deploy AT-ATs.

Not making the AT-AT lasers green.

Not making it so the fleet jumps to lightspeed just before the credits.

Not adding Mon Cal ships to the Rebel Fleet at the end.

Not adding music from the prequels or music that wasn't originally in the movie.

Not adding Luke's vision so it can be seen like Anakin's in ROTS.

Not adding anything just because it's in the Expanded Universe.  The EU doesn't exist for the purposes of this edit.

Okay, in addition to all of Adywan's confirmed changes/enhancements listed above so far, I'll now make a start on some of the other suggestions for 'ESB:Revisited' that have also been brought up so far, that I wanted a reminder of.  These will be numbered from 124 onwards, and I'll add more below the ones shown here today, when I get the opportunity.

While some suggestions may seem quite trivial things compared to others....everything is worth bringing up I reckon, judging by the amount of subtle enhancements that Adywan has previously been known to include....and although he's already included some of the following ideas at this point, too.... just how many of the rest of these he'll like enough to use, is unknown - 

ADVENTURES ON HOTH (additional suggestions)

124.  Give the Hoth planet a slight 'rotation' during it's first appearance, and make the blue 'atmosphere haze' more uniform around it?  Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZTRUwwQrk&feature=related

125.  Remove SE 'flames' from Probe Droid snow crater as it hovers away from it?  Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZTRUwwQrk&feature=related

126.  Add a hint of 'casing' debris to the crater's edge in the 'long shot' of the Probe Droid moving away from it, to tie-in with what's seen around the crater's edge when the Probe emerges in the 'close-up' shot?

127.  Add a Rebel 'gun turret' near the Rebel base 'Generators' that the Probe Droid is seen investigating, to tie-in with the image that is eventually seen on the 'Executor's' display screen?

128.  Tweak the 'tiny' Chewbacca that gets fired at by the Probe Droid, so that it matches his position in the 'close-up' a little better?

129.  Erase the 'insignia' badge that is only sometimes seen on the front of Han's 'Hoth' jacket, so that it's consistently gone in all the shots throughout?

130.  Enhance the backgrounds in certain Taun-Taun shots?   Done! example here - http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2936/trailercomp37.jpg

131.  Is it possible to either add/or erase the yellow ladder that suddenly appears on the X-Wing that Leia stands beside when the Rebel base doors are shut, for consistency's sake?

132.  Make upside-down Luke's legs closer together to match position of where his feet are trapped in ice?  Done! example here - http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5963/facebook11.png

133.  Tweak the lightsaber buried in snow, so that it's more consistently buried during the scene in the Wampa's cave?  Done! example here - http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5963/facebook11.png

134.  If the shot showing the foreground SE Wampa's left-side as Luke cuts himself down is being kept, then make it's black 'paw pads' a more fleshy colour to tie-in with other 'paw' shots?

135.  Re-'flip' both the reversed 'Han on Taun-Taun' miniature shot, and the following 'close-up' of Han holding looking around before he dismounts, where the 'macrobinoculars' are now suddenly slung over his left shoulder instead of his right shoulder?  Both existing shots shown here - http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2690/screenshot15w.png

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/3098/screenshot19z.png

136.  Not sure if there's any way that this reversed shot of Luke can be re-'flipped', since the next shot (which is the correct way round) has his head facing the same way too, unfortunately!  Existing shot shown here - http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9232/screenshot21b.png  Is it preferable to remove this incorrect 'panning' shot altogether, and just go directly to the shot where Ben appears in front of Luke (with some audio/soundtrack tweaking if required), for continuity's sake?

137.  If the 'flipped' shot of of the heavily snow-covered Luke stays, is it possible to 'whiten' the back of his jacket somewhat in the next shot where Ben appears, so that it ties-in better?  Both existing shots shown here - http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9232/screenshot21b.png

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/404/screenshot20.png

THE IMPERIAL FLEET (additional suggestions)

138.  Make the lights along the side of the 'Executor' consistent in all the shots, either by making them all blue, or by re-adding whitish ones on it's prow in the shots where they are absent?

THE EMPIRE STRIKES (additional suggestions)

139.  Make some of the other Rebel 'gun turrets' fire during the battle?  Done! examples here - http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/1615/trailercomp25.jpg

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9696/trailercomp39.jpg

140.  Add some extra Rebel troops to the AT-AT battle?  Being done! OT.com member Rogue Leader is organising a 'second unit' filming team for footage that will be integrated!

141.  Use the best-looking shot of Vader's viewscreen 'surround' for both of the shots where it shows Admiral Ozzel being choked?

142.  Somehow improve the 'close-up' shot of the 'wobbly' AT-AT 'foot' prop that Wedge's Speeder attaches it's 'tow-cable' to?  Perhaps the background can be altered so that it doesn't seem to be 'dangling' high in mid-air, or perhaps a whole new shot?

143.  Somehow improve the details on the 'close-up' shots of the AT-AT 'underbelly' prop that Luke rappels up to, for better consistency with the miniatures, and add the hint of an 'opposing' 2nd 'leg-joint' too?

this list continues in my 7th post....

5th post

73.  Removing visible signs of plastic sheeting on floor through mist in asteroid belly.  Done! example here - http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/999/facebook10.png

74.  Creating new asteroid slug interior mouth model.

DAGOBAH:

75.  Fixing bad colouring job on R2's panels in space.

76.  Stabilizing the readout on the R2 translation screen.

77.  Adding visible atmosphere as the X-Wing gets close to Dagobah.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gT3TrfscoI&feature=related

78.  Restoring "You're lucky you don't taste very good" line.

79.  Digitally tweaking Yoda's expressions.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTUQJmgWUsQ

80.  Fixing jump cut of Vader's mask exploding to reveal Luke.

81.  Removing the wires during the levitation scene.

82.  Fixing the ground that bows under Luke as he walks past Yoda saying "You want the impossible".

83.  Added camera shake to Luke's cockpit as it crashes on Dagobah.

84.  Added mist to wide shot of crashed X-Wing to fix continuity problem.  Done! example here - http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4033/facebook05.png

85.  Re-compositing Obi-Wan's ghost so he no longer looks tiny and enhancing his glow and transparency.  Done! example here - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/4795/compareminiobiwan.jpg

BESPIN:

86.  Replacing all landing platform mattes to eliminate duplicate/non-matching mattes.  Done! example here - http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/6625/blessedcontinuity.jpg

87.  Possibly adding 3PO coming down the stairs upon arrival in Cloud City.

88.  Replacing open window at the end of the corridor with the original pre-SE version after Lando and company come from platform to fix continuity problem.   Done! (see comparison shot in 1st post)

89.  Restoring original "Who are you?" Stormtrooper line.

90.  Fixing it so the open SE window behind Lando while he betrays Han and Leia remains open in the following shots.

91.  Restoring Vader's "Bring my shuttle" line.

92.  Removing of all the SE shots of Vader's shuttle leaving Bespin and docking with the Executor.

93.  Adding fleeing ships to skyline after Lando calls for the evacuation.

94.  Fixing transparent shadows in the shot of Lando and company on the SE balcony.   Done! example here - http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4025/trailercomp12.jpg

95.  Raising railing of the SE balcony.  Done! example here - http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/4025/trailercomp12.jpg

96.  Removing squib markers on walls and Stormtroopers where lasers will hit.

97.  Adding blast marks to Stormtroopers who are shot.

98.  Adding windshield to Slave 1 as it leaves the landing platform.

99.  Fixing the piece of the Falcon Chewie knocks 3PO's head into so it doesn't wobble.

100.  Adding FX so the Falcon's landing gear will retract as it takes off.   Done! example here - http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/323/trailercomp32.jpg

101.  Fixing 3PO's leg in his hand so it doesn't change position between shots (maybe).

102.  Possibly (maybe) keeping the spinning starfield as the Falcon goes to lightspeed.

103.  Removing 3PO from behind Chewie in the Falcon's cockpit in the shot prior to R2 dragging him off to fix continuity problem.

104.  Added shots of Vader approaching front windows of Executor bridge to fix continuity problem.  Done! example here - http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8462/trailercomp43.jpg

105.  Fixing Han in carbonite so he is wearing his ESB shirt instead of his ANH one.

106.  Fixing Vader's chest plate lights that are switched off when he is in the elevator.

107.  Adding missing engine glow to pod as it flies through Bespin City.   Done! example here - http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/8128/trailercomp11.jpg

108.  New Cloud City mattes.  Done! examples here - http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9607/esbrcloudcity.png

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/711/facebook01i.png

109.  Changing backgrounds of Vader when he telepathically talks to Luke to fix continuity problem.

110.  Fixing continuity errors of Piette changing sides of the bridge.

FATHER/SON DUEL:

111.  Fixing shot where Luke hands off lightsaber to stage-hand.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_IthivGgA&feature=related  

112.  Removing Luke's head that pops back into frame when he jumps off the Carbonite Platform.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf_IthivGgA&feature=related

this list continues in my 6th post....

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32.  Restoring Boba Fett's original voice throughout.

33.  Fixing the problem with Vader having 'no neck' in the helmetless scene in the meditation chamber.  Done! example here - http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/8943/fixedhe.jpg

34.  Enhancing the viewscreen in the meditation chamber and fixing the transparency issues.

THE EMPIRE STRIKES:

35.  Adding more Star Destroyers orbiting Hoth.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8YIR60Ij0&feature=related

36.  Moving "First catch" Imperial Officers to the front window of their Star Destroyer to fix continuity error.   Done! (see comparison shot in 1st post)

37.  Adding new FX for Ion Cannon.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8YIR60Ij0&feature=related

38.  Adding the destruction of one of the escort X-Wings.   Done! example here - http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7690/transportb.jpg

39.  Adding the transport and remaining fighter going into lightspeed.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN8YIR60Ij0&feature=related

40.  Creating new background to replace destroyed landscape before a shot is fired.   Done! example here - http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8969/newtrench.jpg

41.  Replacing macrobinocular shots for consistency.   Done! (see comparison shot in 1st post)

42.  New snowscape flyovers with correct number of AT-ATs for each shot.

43.  Removing red AT-AT window.   Done! example here - http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/491/trailercomp38.jpg

44.  Adding markings to full-sized Snowspeeders to match miniatures.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjurEMpGrwY

45.  Adding more Snowspeeders flying towards camera after they launch.   Done! example here - http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3821/trailercomp24.jpg

46.  Removing the traces of wires used to fly some of the Snowspeeders.

47.  Adding subtle displays to Snowspeeders.

48.  Creating a replica Snowspeeder cockpit to help fix transparency issues (maybe).

49.  Adding lasers to hit Rebel Troops who die.

50.  Creating a new Shield Generator model to replace badly composited one.

51.  Fixing bad composite of Luke leaping as his Snowspeeder is crushed.

52.  Removing stick that knocks over the AT-AT Luke blows up.

53.  Adding Luke to the shot of AT-AT falling over.

54.  New Shield Generator explosion.

55.  Fixing Vader's chest plate lights that are constantly on instead of flashing when the Imperials enter the command centre.

CHASING THE FALCON:

56.  Replacing Emperor hologram with one based on ROTJ imagery.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eStsTNOaED8

'comparison' video clip here -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyxwJ_cqNZ4

57.  Altering Ian McDiarmid's dialogue to pre-2004 version.

58.  Repositioning colliding Star Destroyers.   Done! example here - http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4242/stardestroyerplacementcwb9.jpg

59.  Added camera shake to the Star Destroyer bridge as it nearly collides.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg

60.  Fixing Anthony Daniels visibly moving while 3PO is turned off.

61.  Replacing Needa's shuttle with a new shuttle.  Done! example here - http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/5062/shuttlenewsize.jpg

62.  Removing Needa's blink as Vader's cape swipes past him after he dies.

63.  Fixing Slave 1 following too close to the Falcon as they leave the trash.

64.  Enhancing Slave 1's cockpit displays.

ASTEROIDS:

65.  Adding new asteroids to add depth to the field.   Done! example here - http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6329/12832511630537713157200.jpg

66.  Replacing shadow of TIEs and Falcon against the big asteroid.

67.  Creating all-new shot of TIEs chasing the Falcon through the asteroid canyon.

68.  Fixing the 'greeblies' falling off 3PO's elbow when he interrupts Han and Leia's kiss.

69.  Replacing the shot of the asteroid hitting the command tower of the Star Destroyer with new elements.

70.  Fixing the asteroid that explodes before the Star Destroyer laser hits it.  Done! example here - http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/191/20091030facebook13copy.png

71.  Removing Harrison Ford mouthing Leia's "hardly enough to get me excited" line.

72.  Replace the tool in Han's hand with a blaster when he shoots the mynock.

this list continues in my 5th post....

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11.  Fixing boom mic reflection in Luke's goggles.

12.  Removing visible crew member during the Wampa attack.

13.  Creating a new Wampa puppet.

14.  Repositioning the full-sized Falcon's gun turret in exterior scenes to match the miniature.  Done! example here - http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/9679/newfixedgunnm0.jpg

15.  Re-edited Wampa cave scene, removing SE elements and restoring it closer to the original cut.

16.  Covering Anthony Daniel's neck which is visible while Han calls over the Deck Officer.

17.  Fixing it so the hangar doors only close once.  Done! example here - http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/170/16441202775067437627767.jpg

18.  Fixing missing frame from the "This one goes here, that one goes there" shot.

19.  Adding subtle displays to Snowspeeders.

20.  Making it so the Probe Droid's lasers hit closer to Chewie.

21.  Replacing snow mound Han shoots at Probe Droid from, to remove debris.

22.  Replacing snow mounds when Han fires at Probe due to brightness inconsistency.

23.  Expanding the size of the hangar interior when seen from outside the hangar.  Done! example here - http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/1121/16441202775057437627767.jpg

24.  Flipping the Wampa's arm as it looks like he is backswiping Luke because they used the wrong arm.

25.  Fixing obvious flip shot of Leia as Han enters the command centre.  Existing shot shown here - http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7359/screenshot17f.png

26.  Fixing the error when Luke runs from the Wampa cave and we hear his saber turn off yet we can see it is still ignited.

27.  Adding the 'force glow' to Obi-Wan's ghost on Hoth.  Done! example here - http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/425/facebook07.png

28.  Flipping the shots of the saber cutting open the Taun-Taun because it's hind legs are the wrong side of the frame.  Done! 1st example here - http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/88/16441202775077437627767.jpg  and 2nd example here - http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/7412/16441202775087437627767.jpg

29.  Removing visible footprints in the snow when the Probe crashes.

THE IMPERIAL FLEET:

30.  Fixing Imperial rank pins and cylinders so they don't switch sides.

31.  Redoing most Executor interiors to provide a more logical layout and reduce positioning errors.  Done! example here - http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/6972/propervaderpropernn8.jpg

this list continues in my 4th post....

2nd post

The way I'm going to lay this out is to start with a recap of Adywan's already-planned changes/enhancements currently mentioned on page 1 of the main 'ESB:R' thread - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-NEW-TRAILER-AVAILABLE-NOW/topic/9060/ , which were last updated on 10th December 2009, and which I'll number 1 to 123 for the purposes of this list.  I'll then follow-up these up with various other suggestions that have previously been brought up in addition to these, which will be numbered 124 onwards.

(Please note - although this checklist may be useful to others too, due to the numerous amount of ideas on the 'ESB:R' thread so far, I'm aware that there's still a lot more I've yet to include..  However, as I'd like to make this as comprehensive as possible, I hope to update it regularly....and will continue to add additional past and future suggestions below the ones posted today, when I can.  I'm going to reserve myself plenty of space for these further suggestions....so anyone who ends up posting here afterwards, won't break up the layout of this ongoing list in any way)

Okay, here goes, and bear in mind that some of these 'preview' screenshots/clips are still unfinished works-in-progress -

OVERALL:

1.  Doing a complete colour correction.   Done! examples here - http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4619/15838130644149890911666.jpg

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9232/15838130618961261211666.jpg

2.  Rebuilding the sound mix with new sound FX.

3.  Re-rotoscoping all of the lightsabers to fix colour (and other) errors.   Done! example here - http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/2016/cavesabernew.jpg

4.  Re-rotoscoping all of the laser blasts for consistency.   Done! example here - http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/6651/lasercomp.jpg

5.  Attempting to fix spaceship/snowspeeder transparency issues.

6.  Desaturating all TIE Fighters to match grey ANHR ones.   Done! example here - http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/7645/esbrasteroidtiescomp.png

7.  Replacing/enhancing starfields.

8.  Fixing as many garbage mattes as possible.

ADVENTURES ON HOTH:

9.  Adding better flames to the Probe Droid as it crash lands.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZTRUwwQrk&feature=related

10.  Tweaking Taun-Taun's facial movements, adding blinks, smoothing out run animation.   Done! video clip here - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiZTRUwwQrk&feature=related

this list continues in my 3rd post....

1st post 

* * * * * Imp's ongoing collection of screenshots and suggestions for adywan's 'EMPIRE:REVISITED'  * * * * *

Having found Adywan's/doubleofive's 'A New Hope Revisited Changes List' information (and accompanying comparison shots of the whole movie!) to be an excellent reference - http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/anhr-change-list/ , I'm hoping that they'll eventually show an equally comprehensive record of all the final changes/enhancements that end up in the eventual 'ESB:Revisited' edit too.

But in the meantime....since there's been so many suggestions submitted for 'ESB:R' at this point now, I wanted to see an 'at-a-glance' compilation of as many of them as possible....along with an indication of any that Adywan has decided to incorporate.  (I also wanted to gather the various preview shots that have been released too)

So as it's been over a year now since this particular thread has been updated in any way, I thought this would be the best place to add a more up-to-date round-up of the various suggestions so far, which can serve as a reminder to myself and others, and help minimise the repetition of ideas previously brought up.

To start things off though, here's a sample of some of the incredible colour-correction and changes/enhancements that have already been completed so far -

And here's what the awesome trailers showed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_3YIF9s2s

Extended version - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZliwkutFwV0

However, due to some unpredictable 'posting limitation' restrictions on the forum while putting all this together, I'll need to split it across several posts.  So this list continues in my 2nd post....

darthmunky said:

QUESTION: Is the list of fixes on the first page up to date?

Not really....

But funny you should ask that at this point, as I'm right in the middle of finishing off a little something to do with this that I've been putting together recently, and can finally post it in a little while.

I'll stick a notification here about it shortly, and I think you'll find it of interest to you.

vaderios, while it's always neat to see whatever excellent mock-ups you come up with, I'm not sure about your perspectives here, and have several reasons why I think this particular building is just fine anyway without needing the extra work of an overhaul done to it.  I wish I had the time to explain why just now, but you know I'll get back to you on this when I can.  (with screenshots I now need to organise....)

Your penchant for 'lighting' issues of all kinds are well known and some of your alternative takes can be a marvel to behold, and I've a couple of thoughts to do with that aspect too.  However, you've made me notice something subtle that's missing that I would like to see added if possible, which I'll cover as well when I get the chance.  :)

Adywan, that latest tweak involving your 'Falcon approaching Bespin' preview makes that awesome shot even better now.  And neat to see those work-in-progress shots of your backpack moulds.  I'm assuming that Rogue Leader's footage will be mainly fairly 'distant' shots of extras, and that the majority of the various prop details will probably be mostly un-noticeable anyway.  Nice to know that things are turning out to be a close approximation of the original props, even though.

Rogue Leader, good to know that you have an alternative in mind if there's no snow nearby to film in, by the time you're ready.  I guess even a reasonably lit, big ol' white building/studio space interior somewhere could be fine for filming against, for Adywan to matte whatever 'long shots' of the extras he's using?  Fingers crossed for actual snow though.

Sumguy21 said:

I just want to point out that "un-flipping" these sorts of shots change the entire composition and the way the eye and the person interpret the shot. If the flipped shot isn't something that would be immediately noticeable, I would just say to leave it alone. It was probably flipped for good reason.

This is a fair enough point that I remember being mentioned previously a while back.

I guess it's down to personal preference, but where possible, I'm keen to see things look the correct way round for 'continuity' purposes.

I never actually noticed the 'reversal' of 'Han cutting open the TaunTaun' for long enough, but I reckon it looks so much better now that Adywan has re-flipped those 2 shots to show things in the correct position now.

SilverWook said:

More prologue thoughts...

Maybe a classical piece of music would work since a big screen version of the TOS theme aside from the 2009 version doesn't really exist. "Jupiter" by Gustav Holst might work if you use the right bits from it.

While 'Jupiter' is indeed a terrific piece SilverWook, there is a fantastic 'TOS' theme variation out there that I've always loved.  I'm a huge music fan in general, and that includes soundtrack scores too.  I have it somewhere around, and I'll get back about the title of the CD album I have.  It's been on one or two other compilations too I believe, and it's over 3 mins worth of full-blown perfection by the great John Williams himself (and his Boston Pops orchestra). 

It's just called 'Star Trek Theme' if I recall, and it's a variation on the Alexander Courage music.  It builds into it's own thing though, and is a neat version.

(By the way doubleofive, I got a hold of that 'Best of Meco' compilation some time back, too, lol!  A blast from the past, that.)

While I'm personally very happy with the grandeur of the existing 'Star Trek The Motion Picture:Director's cut' exactly as it is (barring some print quality issues of course), I'm also very interested to see what you eventually come up with on this one FanFiltration.

Having caught up with everything on this thread recently, as far as a potential TOS 'Prologue' intro. possibility, I've been mulling over a short variation of my own in the last couple of days to put up here just for fun.

I'll get round to it when I can, and had been intending to mention I'd have theoretically had John Williams version to accompany it, before we eventually go on to hear Jerry Goldsmith's theme begin....

adywan said:

Actually that shot of Yoda was originally taken from where he climbs up on the mound to raise the X-wing but they placed it there instead and flipped the shot and caused the continuity error where he is suddenly in a different place.  I've reinstated the shot where it should have been and re-flipped it. I haven't figured out what i will be putting in its place though

Thanks for confirming this will be re-'flipped'.  :)

I'd noticed that the background matched the ones in the 'close-ups' of Yoda lifting the X-Wing a little later on, but I hadn't reckoned on you actually moving this shot altogether.

Interesting, but does this mean you're removing a shot from later on now, to include this?

David Little - nice first post there, and welcome aboard.

Rogue Leader - the gun props are looking very good, especially once the orange tip is blackened.  If it turns out you can't get a 'shotgun' part (or want to keep costs down), perhaps a little piece of round black plastic plumbing 'piping' can be cut to an approximate length and attached to the gun instead?  It would give an approximate look, and the ends could just be smoothed off with 'filler' of some sort.  Just a thought.  Nice work so far.

Haven't been able to be around for the last few weeks, but have just got up to speed again, and wanted to say that your latest 'Cloud City approach' preview shot is looking awesome so far Adywan!  Terrific work as always, and I'll look forward to the finished version eventually.

Anyway, in addition to the various existing 'HOTH' flipped shots that I covered in this post at the New Year - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-NEW-TRAILER-AVAILABLE-NOW/post/390469/#TopicPost390469 , I thought I'd show the 'DAGOBAH' flipped shot now, prompted by this recent comparison of Yoda by vaderios.

Although there were a few comments on how different the 'prequel' design looks compared to the 'original', no-one mentioned that the CGI Yoda head is 'reversed' the wrong way round in this mock-up here....  Thing is, Yoda's ears are very different to each other, with his right ear being somewhat 'straight', while his left ear is distinctly 'curved'.

Because the 'prequel' head seems to be the the wrong way round in this example, the differences are exaggerated even more than they should be I reckon -

....another noticeable non-symmetrical feature is the large 'spot' clearly seen on the left of Yoda's brow here -

....okay then, here's the shot of Yoda that is 'flipped'....it seems to just be this one, and it's where he gets up after falling during Luke's training....  (note the shape of the ears and garments in comparison with before and after shots of Yoda in the movie)

....I've included the shots of Luke to put it in context...but I'd personally prefer for this Yoda shot to be re-'flipped' too, as it will still seem that he is somewhere to the side of where Luke is glancing....  We soon get used to re-'flipped' shots anyway.

I'll be covering a lot more to do with certain 'Dagobah' stuff when I get the chance.

Several other pages of posts in the way is indeed a problem, lol.

Rather than starting a similar thread though, perhaps you can draft up your latest additional stuff seperately....and post it immediately after reposting your original info., which you could just 'reply with quote' from your original post.

Just an alternative to consider.

By the way, my 'limited' posts also involved a heap of links too, as my word count was certainly nowhere near the 64000 character limit.

I've come up against this forum 'limitation' recently myself when I went to 'preview'/'save' something I'm currently drafting up.

I ended up having to delete some of the sentences in my lengthy draft until it went below the maximum 64000 characters limitation, and then saved that....before just continuing to draft up a second post to incorporate what I'd deleted in the first one.

When I'm ready, I'll just have to post one after the other, it seems.

Unless Jay suggests otherwise, you may have to do the same Frink.

Matticon said:

Your reveal shot was one of my favorite shots in the trailer..... please don't cut it.

Couldn't you keep the shot and then have the falcon fly to the other side and turn around coming in from the other angle? YOu do have a falcon model...

Just a thought...

The trailer 'reveal' shot will still be around Matticon, it's the later shot of the 'distant' City 'reveal' that is going to be altered....to remove the (secondary) 'sun' that is seen on the left of the frame during it.

adywan said:

Unfortunately that reveal shot is going. The sun is behind the city whereas in every other shot the sun is facing the city (as has been discussed before) and you can see from the new close-up city matte as the falcon approaches the sun will be facing the city. So this shot has to go as it stands now. Even though i have always loved that shot myself it just doesn't work within the edit now but i will be replacing it with a new reveal shot which will still have the city in the distance

 

The window will be seen in all shots that it was missing in the SE

Good to see you back Adywan, and thanks for the confirmation.

I'm sorry to see that the 'sunrise' in the small, distant Cloud City reveal is going....even though I agree with the point about the 'lighting' issues.

In this particular case, I guess I was happy to overlook the 'continuity' problem of this 'twin sun' system shot, due to the atmospheric beauty of the it.  Still, 'continuity' counts for a lot where possible, and I know your final shot will turn out great regardless.

....and the additional background 'elevator' windows are going to look terrific I'm sure!  :)

savmagoett said:

vaderios said:

Just wondering if the SDs should have hangars in this(and the other shots)?

Nope! On that side it's just a wide bay with doors closed.

True that, vaderios -

....that original shot you mocked-up already shows the correct view of the SD's inner bay detailing.

Rogue Leader said:

My team is a lil over a dozen people... Along with my Rogues, we have other friends/powerful allies who will be instrumental in pulling this off. Costume designers, prop makers, film makers, photographers, etc etc etc... So rest assured we're not approaching this half-@ssed... lol. No, we do not have the backing of the 501st or Rebel Legion. However, we do have a few real Rebels within those groups who are willing to help me directly. I resigned from the RL last year so they have no jurisdiction over me or my squadron. =P

Welcome aboard Ming, and thanks for the interesting update on what you and your buddies are involved in with the 'Secondary Unit' stuff.

So you're the one who took the 'Rogue Leader' tag here when I tried to register as that originally, lol.  It seems that you're the perfect member to have it though, judging by your credentials!  :)

So just to wish you all good luck in your mission, and it sure is neat to know that some of you could end up in as many as six shots, which is more than I expected.  I have a feeling that Adywan's whole AT-AT battle is going to be a real showpiece for his work by the time this is all done....

Nope.  I don't think it was me vaderios, as I remember Ady mentioning that he was actually planning to keep the 'elevator' window look.  Sounds great if he can manage that.  However, there's another, totally different 'open' SE window that has been restored to it's former, original look to resolve a 'continuity' problem.  (there's a comparison shot of it amongst Adywan's preview shots on page 1 of this thread)

But I liked your mock-up of this one too.  :)

Well done thunderclap!

I'm looking forward to seeing how some of your ideas have worked out on this version....and I can already tell that I'm going to enjoy your version much more than the original....  :)

(Which reminds me, I must get around to cobbling together my own preferred 'ending' here sometime, since doubleofive supplied me with all the screenshots I required, a while ago....)

Glad to see it seems to be in 5.1 audio. and that you made the effort to colour-correct things a little....but can you confirm if there'll be a PAL release of this too, or not?  Thanks.

VincentSmalls said:

Looks very cool... although I've always liked the fact Cloud City looked a dot in the distance. It's reminiscent of the Death Star in the distance as the Millenium Falcon approaches in A New Hope... "he's heading for that small moon!"... it's this small object in the distance that you only get a sense of the massive scale and detail of once you get up close... and boy does Cloud City do that!

That was a nice 'Bespin' shot vaderios, but I must agree with Vincent's comment here.  The original 'sunlit' reveal of the small, distant 'Cloud City' was always one of my favourite establishing 'beauty' shots in the movie, I have to say.

I just wonder if and how Adywan will tweak it in any way....

And I agree with the way doubleofive recently described how he always saw the Falcon's arrival as being at 'sunset'....with the events of Leia pacing in the apartment coming during the next day, and everything else taking place up until the Falcon blasted off in the evening....  Interesting that Adywan saw the 'Falcon' as arriving at a 'sunrise', and all the following events taking place on the same day up until the evening.... 

It will all still look glorious I'm sure.

By the way, thinking about you and your family today Ady.