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vbangle said:

Can you please stop saying that Han shot <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>first</span>? There is no first or second. Han was the only one to shoot period. Its just one of things that is said quite a lot around here that just isn’t correct. Thank you.

Yeah vb, I kinda see how that wording could be misconstrued to refer to the ‘Special Edition’ version of things, where we see both Han <span style=“text-decoration: underline;”>and</span> Greedo shooting…and I wouldn’t want that.  But to be equally pedantic, I was meaning the phrase in regards to the original version only, in that Greedo seemed just about to shoot Han, but Han beat him to it…first.

Anyway, back to the trailers…

ROLLERBALL  (released 1975/directed by Norman Jewison)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV9ysMZamxs  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

Being a big fan of the original movie, this was an instance where I was really looking forward to what an ‘updated’ remake might bring.  The signs looked good, as this was going to be directed by the guy that made ‘PREDATOR’ after all.  The original production design and team costumes looked great, but I kinda hoped that the ‘re-imagined’ carnage would involve an assortment of grungy, spiked, ‘MAD MAX’ - influenced costumes, bikes, and post-apocalyptic settings this time around…  And I hoped it would prove to be a worthy successor to the original…  Boy, was I in for a disappointment on both counts, as can be seen below, lol!..

**ROLLERBALL  (released 2002/directed by John McTiernan)
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Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3beTBUTxOXs

I’D LIKE TO CHANGE A LOT OF THINGS FOR MY PREFERRED VERSIONS OF THE ‘SNYDER TRILOGY’ OF ‘MAN OF STEEL’ / ‘BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE’ / ‘JUSTICE LEAGUE’ MOVIES -

‘MAN OF STEEL’ ideas - DON’T INCLUDE scenes with Clark with a full beard, such as the oil rig rescue. And GET RID of the ‘tornado’ scene where Clark’s dad stops him from saving him…which he should have been able to manage easily with his ‘superspeed’! - just make it seem as if his dad passed away sometime 'offscreen! NOTE - However, someone did a neat re-edit of the sequence where it looked like a car unexpectedly struck Clark’s dad when Clark was DISTRACTED handing a child to safety. ** WRITE UP MORE IDEAS HERE WHEN I HAVE TIME **

‘BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE’ ideas - Just END the scene between Batman and Lex Luthor in the jail at the point where Batman punches him! CUT at that point, rather than include the ‘dent’ in the wall, and Lex doing his ‘ding, ding, ding’ dialogue, and make this his FINAL appearance in the ‘trilogy’ - because of the dialogue that Batman says before he ‘brands’ him, we can just assume he ended up in ‘Arkham Asylum’ afterwards! ** WRITE UP MORE IDEAS HERE WHEN I HAVE TIME **

** NOTE: I’ve not decided yet if I would just cut directly to the END CREDITS immediately after Batman punches Lex…OR if I would cut directly to the EXISTING final scenes of Bruce Wayne walking out of the cemetery, followed by Lois at Clark’s graveside, or not **

POTENTIAL IDEA FOR MY PREFERRED NEW ‘JUSTICE LEAGUE’ BEGINNING -

Definitely KEEP Zack Snyder’s own version of the opening which ‘recaps’ Superman being killed by Doomsday creature (during previous BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE movie) - for it’s atmospherically dark tone and score, as well as it’s continuous movement showing Superman’s death reverberating across the 3 worlds of Humans, Atlanteans, and Amazonians -

It includes the following titles wording - WARNERS BROS. PICTURES presents // in association with ACCESS ENTERTIANMENT and DUNE ENTERTAINMENT // an ATLAS ENTERTAINMENT / STONE QUARRY production // a ZACK SNYDER film // zack snyder’s JUSTICE LEAGUE (Cyborg sits at table at this point) // BEN AFFLECK // HENRY CAVILL // AMY ADAMS // GAL GADOT // RAY FISHER // JASON MOMOA (Superman’s ‘voice’ and newspapers flies towards city buildings at this point) // NOTE: At this point EZRA MILLER appears during a clip of Lex Luthor (with hair) inside the Krypton ship watching a ‘hologram’ of Steppenwolf holding 3 cubes materialize…but I’d like to REMOVE this altogether (and would remove the similar scene with Lex and a ‘hologram’ of Steppenwolf from BvS:DOJ too, as I described above), so that the last we’d see of Lex is when Batman punches him in the previous movie! // WILLEM DAFOE (Superman’s voice passes city skyline at this point) // NOTE: At this point JESSIE EISENBERG appears during clip of Superman’s voice distrupting and undersea ‘Atlantean warrior’…but I’d like to REMOVE the wide shot with his name altogether! // JEREMY IRONS // DIANE LANE // NOTE: At this point CONNIE NIELSEN appears as Superman’s voice continues to travel to the Amazonian’s island, where it affects their ‘box’ too - I think I would keep this intro. so far, as Superman’s voice seems to be moving outwards continually up to this point, along with the camera movements. // J. K. SIMMONS // CIARAN HINDS RYAN ZHENG // AMBER HEARD JOE MORTON // LISA LOVEN KONGSLI DAVID THEWLIS - NOTE: At this point the black Amazonian turns in close-up to shout “Alert the queen!” before turning to the ‘box’ again…and I’d CUT at this point.

At this point in Zack Snyder’s edit, we would NORMALLY CUT to a close-up of a kettle on the fire as we continue to then see Bruce Wayne travel on horseback over mountainous scenery to find Aquaman in Iceland and ask him to join his group…but I MIGHT decide to remove this entirely for something else, to cut the bloat, as it’s already been a slow-moving, gradual build-up to this point - SO AT THIS POINT, I MIGHT CUT TO THE NIGHT-TIME ACTION SCENE WITH A NEWSPAPER SAYING SUPERMAN IS DEAD, FOLLOWED BY BATMAN FINDING ONE OF STEPPENWOLF’S ‘SCOUTS’ IN GOTHAM CITY, AND ALFRED DISCUSSING LEX LUTHOR’S FILES AND LOOKING FOR OTHER SUPERHEROS INSTEAD, AND BEING ASKED TO BRING THE JET - NOTE: This was actually the 2nd scene in Joss Whedon’s edit, which came after the dreadful opening ‘mobile footage of Superman’, but it repeats the following credits at the start of it - WARNER BROS. PICTURES presents // in association with ACCESS ENTERTAINMENT and DUNE ENTERTAIMMENT // an ATLAS ENTERTAINMENT / CRUEL AND UNUSUAL production // a ZACK SNYDER film…BUT I would MISS OUT the WARNER BROS. PICTURES presents // in association with ACCESS ENTERTAINMENT and DUNE ENTERTAINMENT wording and begin this Joss Whedon scene when the police car passes below, and can live with the remaining credits being repeated at this point -

…and the scene ends with Batman jumping off a building -

…and then I THINK I’d continue on at this point with Joss Whedon’s JUSTICE LEAGUE main titles as Lois visits Superman’s broken monument, and we see various large tribute flags on different cities with the ‘S’ symbol, and Clark’s mother leaving his grave and her repossessed farm, ALONG WITH A REPEAT OF CERTAIN CREDITS WORDING WHICH I NEED TO WRITE OUT HERE STILL -

…and then I’d CUT this Joss Whedon scene once the song ‘Everybody Knows’ ends at this point -

…and then I’d CUT to Zack Snyder’s edit from this point onwards for the Terrorists/Wonder Woman sequence, as the movie is much moodier than Joss Whedon’s version, and has a similar tone to THE DARK KNIGHT opening -

** NOTE: IF I decide that I DON’T want to repeat the CREDITS WORDING in the Joss Whedon ‘Everybody Knows’ title sequence above, I would just CUT directly from Batman jumping off the building to the ‘London Bridge’ shot above to start the Zack Snyder cut of the ‘Terrorists/Wonder Woman’ sequence INSTEAD! - NOTE: ALTHOUGH I WOULD HATE TO LOSE THE FLAG TRIBUTES TO SUPERMAN ACROSS THE GLOBE, AT LEAST I’D BE ABLE TO USE ZACK SNYDER’S FOOTAGE OF HIS MUM LEAVING HER FORCLOSED HOME, WHICH IS MORE ATMOSPHERIC LOOKING **

TO BE CONTINUED - Not sure if I will be ending the Wonder Woman sequence on the full Zack Snyder conclusion with the black policeman looking up after building explodes and the terrorist’s hat floats down…OR if I’d prefer to end it on the white flash as she clashes her forearm bracelets together - either way, I’d then continue with Bruce Wayne on horseback as he goes looking for Aquaman - I’d definately END the sequence with the Joss Whedon dialogue and Aquaman swimming off version though, as we FINISH on Bruce saying “Doesn’t mean I’m wrong”…and then CUT to the Zack Snyder scene of Bruce’s helicopter landing as he tells Alfred he found Aquaman who said no to him, before they board the jet…and then I’d CUT to Zach Snyder’s scene between Bruce and Alfred aboard the jet, before we see it flying through the sky, and then continue onto the next scene as normal in Zach Snyder’s version.

THE MANDALORIAN LAST EP OF SEASON 2 - RECUT LUKES SCENES AT END, TO MAKE HIM SPEAK LESS. HIS EYES AND EXPRESSIONS DONT EMOTE ENOUGH, AND HIS DIALOGUE IS TOO PO-FACED. ALSO CUT DOWN AMOUNT OF GROGU STROKING MANDOS FACE

adywan said:

There will be more activity in the transport scenes

That's a nice confirmation there adywan, and I'm looking forward to the added 'depth' of the overall Hoth battle you're planning, compared to the 2004 DVD mix.  Can't wait to hear how that will sound on the surrounds!  Been kind of busy of late, but look out for a PM later tonight concerning the workprint.  You're doing ridiculously good work on this!  :)

Also, some of you may be interested in this new thread I've started in the 'Off Topic' section, if you get a moment sometime -  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Imps-MOVIE-TRAILER-SHOWCASE-PAST-PRESENT-AND-COMING-SOON/topic/11782/

**Coming Soon…  **Due for release in 2011…

SUPER 8  (coming 2011/directed by J. J. Abrams)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRx8KXBzGME

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then we end on Falcon travelling in hyperspace -

…After ‘Group’ shot and Falcon flying shot ends in a white flash…I’d then CUT to the scene of Kylo getting his helmet fixed, then returning to his Stardestroyer in his TIE, as his Knights of Ren follow him down a corridor (THIS IS A WAY OF DOUBLING DOWN ON THE FACT THAT KYLO ISN’T GONNA CHANGE TO THE LIGHT SIDE AND BE REDEEMED!) -

…and we end on this shot as the music stops immediately before the stormtrooper speak -

…and then we continue on as normal, as dawn breaks again on a familiar island which slowly comes into view -

…After ‘Group’ shot and Falcon flying shot ends in a white flash…I’d then CUT to the zoom-in towards Luke’s island…and then CUT to him telling Rey he has something Leia wanted her to have, and then end on the close-up of her looking at Leia’s hidden lightsaber -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJrd6cyN8rw

…and then I MIGHT CUT to Vader’s burnt mask being touched by Kylo who closes his eyes and then sees a flashback of him killing Han (it’s possible to cut 2 or 3 shots together to do this!) -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSxrrVgks-A

…and IF I do that, then I’d next CUT to Kylo’s broken mask pieces being thrown down, as we see it being put together again, and then he travels with his Knights of Ren to his Stardestroyer, and he rounds a corridor with them -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPr9h55IGA

…and then I’d CUT to the Falcon travelling to Tattooine, as Rey looks around Luke’s homestead and buries the lightsabers before igniting her own, meeting the old lady, and looking at the setting suns with BB-8 -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo2pjiwh8pk

…and then we CUT to a close-up of ‘Forceghost’ Luke speaking to Rey -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Rey pulls a rock out -

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…and we continue on as normal, as we ‘flashback’ to a training session between young Luke and Leia -

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NOTE - I might end up cutting from her staying “Rey…” immediately to her close-up below of her then saying “…Rey Skywalker!” (James Bond-like)

NOTE - mention in a ‘blue box’ description, that I’d DISCARD the next shot below of the old woman asking “Rey who?” -

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…then CUT to a close-up pan towards Rey saying “Rey Skywalker!” (James Bond-like), as the music starts to swell -

NOTE: THERE’S 6 WAYS I COULD GO WITH THIS -

1. GO WITH ABSOLUTELY ALL OF ORIGINAL ENDING (INCLUDES LUKE AND LEIA) - NO THANKYOU.

2. ONCE OLD WOMAN THEN ASKS REY WHO?..CUT TO CLOSEUP OF REY SAYING REY SKYWALKER AS MUSIC SWELLS (MISSING OUT LUKE AND LEIA)

3. ONCE OLD WOMAN WHO ARE YOU?..CUT TO CLOSEUP OF REY SAYING REY SKYWALKER AS MUSIC SWELLS (MISSING OUT OLD WOMAN ASKING REY WHO? AS WELL AS MISSING OUT LUKE AND LEIA)

4. ONCE OLD WOMAN ASKS WHO ARE YOU?..CUT TO REY SAYING REY…THEN IMMEDIATELY CUT TO CLOSE OF REY SAYING REY SKYWALKER - JAMES BOND LIKE (MISSING OUT OLD WOMAN ASKING REY WHO? AS WELL AS MISSING OUT LUKE AND LEIA)

5. ONCE OLD WOMAN ASKS WHO ARE YOU?..CUT TO REY LOOKING AROUND TO LEIA AND LUKE BEFORE EVENTUALLY SAYING REY SKYWALKER (MISSING OUT OLD WOMAN ASKING REY WHO?) - THIS ONE MIGHT BE THE BEST, I’M NOT SURE YET.

6. COULD PERHAPS CUT FROM SHOT 55 (LEIA SWITCHING HER LIGHTSABER ON) DIRECTLY TO SHOT 58 (SO THAT I MISS SIDE-ONWARDS SHOT OF HER LOOKING AT IT, AS I’M NOT TOO KEEN ON THAT SHOT)…THEN ONCE WOMAN SAYS “THERE’S BEEN NO-ONE HERE FOR SO LONG…WHO ARE YOU?”, AND REY THEN REPLIES “I’M REY”…I COULD THEN PERHAPS CUT TO THE FALCON FLYING OVER A SANDCRAWLER ON TATTOOINE AS WE HEAR A JAWA SAY “OOTEENEE!” AS MY CLOSING SHOT, THEN ‘IRIS’ TO END CREDITS AND MUSIC.

7. NEW POSSIBILITY WHICH I’D LIKELY GO FOR! - SEE WHAT I’VE WRITTEN AT THE VERY END OF THIS POST

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NOTE - just put J.J. ABRAMS end title here instead??

ABSOLUTELY BEST ENDING IDEA FOR MYSELF WHICH GIVES THE MOVIE SAGA A MUSIC-ORIENTATED CONCLUSION WITHOUT ANY DIALOGUE WHATSOEVER (in the same kind of manner which I preferred for the end of the Prequel Trilogy too with my proposed ROTS ending) - WHICH ELIMINATES SPECIFYING IF REY IS A ‘SKYWALKER’…OR A ‘PALPATINE’…OR SIMPLY ‘REY’, AS YOU CAN CHOOSE TO BELIEVE WHAT YOU WISH WITH THIS SOLUTION! - Meaning that I can do away with the ‘random nosey old woman’ who happens to be wandering in the desert at this point. HERE’S HOW -

7. …we CUT from the previous ‘musical montage’ which ends with the ‘Stardestroyer falling in the Jakuu desert’ to EITHER the close-up shots of Rey and BB-8 exiting the Falcon, OR the wide shot of Rey and BB-8 heading towards the old Lars homestead from the Falcon…and then continue as normal with Rey having a look around and then burying Luke and Leia’s lightsabers in the sand, as she then ignites her own yellow lightsaber…and CUT to our FINAL ‘Star Warsy’ shot of the Falcon flying over a sandcrawler on Tattooine as we hear a Jawa saying “OOTEENEEE!”…and FADE OUT to a ‘circular iris’ as the end credits begin.

NOTE - I’m not 100% sure yet if I’d include the ‘side-on’ shot of Rey looking at her lightsaber, or just join shot 55 directly to shot 58 and CUT immediately before we hear the woman’s animal roar.

ALSO NOTE - an ALTERNATIVE version of this NON-dialogue ending would go like this instead - …we CUT from the previous ‘musical montage’ which ends with the ‘Stardestroyer falling in the Jakuu desert’ to the ‘Falcon flying over a sandcrawler on Tattooine’, and continue on as normal with Rey having a look around and then burying Luke and Leia’s lightsabers in the sand, as she then ignites her own yellow lightsaber, with the ‘side-on’ shot of her looking at it as our FINAL shot…and FADE OUT to a ‘circular iris’ as the end credits begin.

…SO I’VE GOT A CHOICE OF WHETHER TO END ON A SHOT OF REY OR THE FALCON TO FINISH THINGS OFF.

UPDATE - DO I INCLUDE THE SCENE OF CHEWIE, FINN, AND POE PLAYING HOLOGRAPHIC CHESS ANYWHERE, OR NOT?? - AS A WAY TO IMPLY THAT THEY HAVE ACCOMPANIED HER ON THE FALCON!

7 FACES OF DR LAO  (released 1964/directed by George Pal)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wln5SWJwGao  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

THIS IS HOW I’D LIKE TO RE-EDIT THE START OF ‘SOLO’ FOR MYSELF -

(BUT I MAY JUST END UP USING SILVER ‘LUCASFILM’ LOGO IN SOME WAY)

START OFF with the familiar 20th Century Fox/Lucasfilm logos and fanfare of previous Star Wars movies -

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ADD MORE SHOTS HERE AS THEY DISCUSS HAN STEALING COAXIUM AND THEM WANTING TO GET AWAY FROM CORELLIA

NOTE - SHOULD I END ON THIS SHOT OF HAN AS HE SAYS “???”, OR SHOULD I END ON THE SHOT OF KIRA SPEAKING JUST AFTERWARDS? - https://i0.wp.com/img.screencaps.us/201/8-solo/full/solo-movie-screencaps.com-281.jpg?ssl=1

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ALTERNATIVE IDEA - I MIGHT instead go from a point in the scene of Han yelling that he’ll come back when Kira is taken…to fading out to black for a second…then fade/CUT to Han and two others scouting a bridge on a snowy planet, as we hear the man say “Here it comes, take a look…”

NOTE - I COULD ADD ‘TIME STAMPS’ TO ALL MY CUTS JUST IN CASE THE LINKS EVER GO DOWN ON THESE IDEAS AGAIN!

BACK TO THE FUTURE  (released 1985/directed by Robert Zemeckis)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFcjv0oPw6E

BACK TO THE FUTURE II  (released 1989/directed by Robert Zemeckis)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU-dHBmEGBU

BACK TO THE FUTURE III  (released 1990/directed by Robert Zemeckis)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBKMvGhvH9U

BACK TO THE FUTURE  (re-released 2010/directed by Robert Zemeckis)

Re-release Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wtOnH0gK9M  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

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It the 'color-corrected every frame' comment that's really got me worried!

The 'look' of a movie's colour is one of the things I'm most concerned with when it comes to all these re-releases.

I despise the overly-dark, 'stylised' re-coloration that Ridley Scott did for his ALIEN:DIRECTOR'S CUT, which seems to be the default new colour for the original cut too now, compared to it's great original colouration.  And the same goes for what he did to his BLADERUNNER:FINAL CUT also, which messed with the original's excellent colours.

I wonder how far Cameron has deviated for this BLURAY release now?  The original color is ALREADY perfect on ALIENS (and the 'Special Edition') as it is, so count me nervous again.

Too many directors are fouling up their originals with all this colour-grading nonsense.  It looks like I'll be sticking with more and more DVD originals at this rate... 

Jaitea said:

But watching it just makes me think why not just cut it out.

But then we'd miss what ady has in mind for his new 'rebel base' background for this establishing shot...

adywan said:

vaderios said:

ady are aware of this? http://www.thefoundry.co.uk/products/cameratracker/

It might solve some tracking problems you have :)

 

-Angel

That plug-in would be exactly what i need if it does what it says. There is just no way i would be able to afford it as the funds dried up a long time ago

 

Awesome find there vaderios.  It would be great if some of us can further assist to help adywan get this eventually, and whatever else he still requires.

 

Here is the finished version of the matte. As you can see there have been a few changes:

 

That shot looks even more epic now!  Great new tweaking to the colouring, and love being able to make out the stairs now.

 

ImperialFighter said:

doubleofive said:

It looks great in the whole scene.

And doubleofive would know, having seen the 'workprint'.

Hmmm. You should have been one of them. I sent you out a copy of it last week.

 

It arrived today!!  Thankyou very much, and I will PM you when I can soon. 

vbangle said:

Adywan, give us an update on your health....here's hoping you are doing better and feeling good.

Well things are almost back to normal. I'm still on the tablets but the headaches have gone.

 

I've started back to work on ESB:R full time now. The workstation just needs the lights installing but i've got everything set back up so it's full steam ahead ( pictures/ video of the workstation coming next week). The model/ set building resumes at the weekend.

 

Glad to hear things have improved.  Looking forward to seeing your workstation!  :)

doubleofive said:

It looks great in the whole scene.

And doubleofive would know, having seen the 'workprint'.

From the snippet seen in the final trailer, the overall look now seems far superior to me I have to say, as the SE version is 'blue-tinged' and overly dark compared to how it is now.  And adywan's also done a couple of terrific additional tweaks on top.  Count me delighted with how this turned out.

SilverWook said:

What is it with Japan and spaceships that look like seagoing vessels anyway?

Dunno, but they're probably gonna go ape for *this* at the end of the year -  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTuPK66J300

Bingowings said:

Here are still of a crawl I have made with this app and as you can see it's closer to the real thing than the one on the SW.COM.

Thanks for showing that!  :)

It's one of the coolest apps. I've ever come across.  There's no doubt that the quality of that guy's version is very impressive compared to the 'official' one.  (Why should I be surprised?)

It mentions at the bottom of that info. page you linked to, that someone called 'Darth Revan' is going to be doing a port for PCs too!  Great stuff.

Also, when I followed a couple of links on that page, it led me to this, which I presume is the guy that came up with it.  There seems to be some neat stuff worth having a look at sometime -  http://alienryderflex.com/tutorials.shtml

TV's Frink said:

So this thread is now ours, to do with as we please?

Yeah, knock yourselves out!  Although technically it's C3PX's thread now, since I gave it to him...so best ask him.  :)

Okay, I’ve finally had time to go back and fill in all those slots I ‘reserved’ above to start things off properly now.  Feel free to comment on anything from here onwards (movie-related that is…)  I’ll continue adding loads of other trailers, old and new, when time allows.

Here’s a few more…

THE WAR OF THE WORLDS  (released 1953/directed by Byron Haskin)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imjio167nJo  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

WAR OF THE WORLDS  (released 2005/directed by Steven Spielberg)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtqFbzCnG94  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

Theatrical Trailer 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqrdrBtGTeE  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

Theatrical Trailer 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP42yAyC3YQ

NOTE - Just in case anyone happens to stumble across this old ‘Trailers’ thread of mine sometime, I’ve just temporarily used this space to put the following edit ideas/shots on here to remind myself about them at some point!
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INITIAL IDEAS FOR 1ST EPISODE OF ‘THE MANDALORIAN’ TV SHOW -

1. I MIGHT change SILENT silver LUCASFILM logo to SHORTENED ‘fanfare’ version.

2. DISCARD the ‘shiny characters’ line-up and ‘rainbow star wars’ logo, and instead ADD the SILENT ‘A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away’ blue wording BEFORE cutting to the ‘locator’ beeps and wind of the first shot.

3. The blue ‘gillman’ alien guy was really annoying, and it would be tempting to cut the ENTIRE first part of the show to get rid of him…EXCEPT I really like some of the initial imagery, so I think it might be possible to DISCARD some of the scenes involving him, and cut directly to the close-up of the Mandalorian pushing him into the chamber to be ‘carbonised’! - POSSIBLY get rid of the CGI’D driverless golden speeder, and just cut to the rusty speeder with the driver after the SPY ALIEN plays his flute?

In the 2ND EPISODE, I might DISCARD everything before the Mandalorian and floating Yodaling walking towards us with the sun behind them (but keep THE MANDALORIAN title??), as they then come across the jawas stripping the ship…OR I MIGHT include initial start of episode where the Mandalorian fights off the Younglings attackers, and then CUT to them walking with the sun behind them (but keep THE MANDALORIAN title??)…while DISCARDING the whole scene of the Mandalorian attending to his wound as the Yodaling puppet tries to heal him.

MY NEW BEGINNING FOR ROGUE ONE -

START OFF with the familiar 20th Century Fox/Lucasfilm logos and fanfare of previous Star Wars movies -

(NOTE - I might just start off with the silent LUCASFILM LOGO and blue wording instead, seeing as these are merely ‘standalone’ stories outwith the MAIN SAGA storyline with Luke and co.)

NOTE - I NEED TO ADD A LOT MORE ‘FILLER’ SCREENSHOTS TO THIS, AND MIGHT MENTION THAT I ALWAYS TRY TO IMAGINE ANY SCENES I’M DISCARDING AS BEING LOST ‘DELETED SCENES’, TO SEE IF I’D REALLY HAVE WANTED TO INCLUDE THEM IF THEY’D BEEN NEWLY DISCOVERED!

YOUTUBE CLIP OF SOME LUCASFILM LOGOS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYaG3o3bgE

( IS THIS JUST THE SAME LUCASFILM LOGOS RE-UPLOADED? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UaDulL4X84 )

YOUTUBE CLIP OF LUCASFILM LOGO WITH NEW THEME - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMqSKd_PXAQ

( IS THIS JUST THE SAME NEW THEME RE-UPLOADED? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzfZ3EcHqw )

TEST IMAGE LINKS FOR MY PREFERRED ‘ROGUE ONE’ EDIT INTRO POSSIBILITIES (THESE MAY NOT BE FINAL ORDER!) - (added 6th NOV. 2017 - sequence shots shortened to show beginning and end of scenes I have in mind) -

(ADDITIONAL NOTE to myself: the Screencaps site doesn’t include the 20TH CENTURY FOX logo or the ‘rainbow’ LUCASFILM logo, so I would just use the first 2 image links immediately below to show them instead) - ANOTHER ADDITIONAL NOTE to myself: To get any of these links to actually show as pics on this site, I need to add  at the very end too!

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/2/20/Logo_20th_century_fox.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20060309022114

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/theclonewiki/images/a/a1/Lucasfilm_logo.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/640?cb=20140912200117

1. SILVER LUCASFILM LOGO (NOTE - the ‘Force Awakens’ version is larger)

(NOTE - I MIGHT possibly use the ‘colourful’ version instead of the ‘silver’ version…and I MIGHT go for a totally ‘hybrid’ intro. scene of my own which would go like this - 20TH CENTURY FOX logo and ‘FANFARE’ music begins/then instead of the LUCASFILM logo at this point, we’d see the STAR WARS title recede away to the rest of the ‘FANFARE’ music/then we’d see the LUCASFILM logo and the ‘A LONG TIME AGO…’ wording in silence, in the same kind of way that ROGUE ONE starts…OR ALTERNATIVELY…I MIGHT just keep the 20TH CENTURY FOX logo and LUCASFILM logo in their normal place with the ‘FANFARE’ music, and THEN have the STAR WARS title recede away in silence before we then see the ‘A LONG TIME AGO…’ wording in silence too…OR ANOTHER POTENTIAL ALTERNATIVE…I MIGHT replace the 20TH CENTURY FOX logo with the receding STAR WARS title instead, as we then see the LUCASFILM logo, and then see the ‘A LONG TIME AGO…’ wording)

2. A LONG TIME AGO… INTRO. WORDING (NOTE - the ‘Force Awakens’ version is larger)

(NOTE - I then MIGHT possibly put receding STAR WARS MAIN TITLE/static starfield over ROGUE ONE music/or SILENCE at this point instead!? - but see new idea above)

(NOTE - I won’t be including either the ROGUE ONE or SOLO ‘Main Titles’ in my edits of these ‘standalone’ movie spin-offs, due to the fact that I really dislike the weak look of the ROGUE ONE font, and because I’m DISCARDING the entire first 25 mins. of SOLO altogether, including it’s ‘Main Title’. I also dislike that the SOLO ‘main title’ includes the byline ‘A Star Wars Story’ but ROGUE ONE doesn’t, even though they are BOTH ‘standalone’ spin-offs - so the A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away… wording effectively becomes the common ‘main title’ which introduces these ‘standalone’ storyline settings…so I’m just looking on these movies as being SUPPLEMENTARY to the ‘main saga’ for myself)

I’m intending to TOTALLY DISCARD all the various scenes that are seen BEFORE the ‘JEDHA IMPERIAL-OCCUPIED MOON/SAW’S GANG WITH BHODI’ scene (NOTE - SHOULD I LIST THEM TOO?), but here’s the movie’s current order of scenes shown AFTER that -

JEDHA IMPERIAL-OCCUPIED MOON/SAW’S GANG WITH BHODI…

…which transitions into WOBANI PLANET/IMPERIAL LABOR CAMP PRISON TRUCK RESCUE OF JYN ERSO…

…which transitions into SHIP HEADED TO YAVIN 4/REBEL ALLIANCE HEADQUARTERS/JYN’S INTERROGATION/SHIP LEAVING YAVIN 4…

…which transitions to SAW’S INTERROGATION OF ‘DEFECTOR PILOT’ BHODI…

…which transitions to TIE FIGHTER APPROACHING STARDESTROYERS OVER DEATHSTAR/TARKIN’S DISCUSSING ‘DEFECTOR PILOT’ WITH KRENNIC/TARKIN LOOKING OUT AT DEATHSTAR…

…which transitions to BLACKNESS/FLASHBACKS OF YOUNG JYN WITH HER PARENTS AND KRENNIC/GIVEN A PENDANT BY HER MOTHER/HUGGED BY HER FATHER/BALD SAW OPENING THE HATCH…

…which transitions to JYN SUDDENLY WAKENING UP TO LOOK AT HER PENDANT/LOOKING OUT AT JEDHA PLANET/LANDING ON JEDHA

NOTE - although I’m DISCARDING the ‘flashback’ scene altogether, I’m still deciding whether the rest of this current order of scenes sufficiently tells the story of the ‘defector pilot’ Bhodi well enough for me in this order, or not. If not, then I’m thinking about focusing on him more right from the start like this instead -

START OFF WITH THE USUAL 20TH CENTURY FOX/LUCASFILM LOGOS AND FANFARE -

OR -

NOTE - SEE THIS SITE FOR SIZE REFERENCE - https://logos.fandom.com/wiki/Lucasfilm/Other

CUT TO THE JEDHA IMPERIAL-OCCUPIED MOON FOR MY NEW OPENING, AS THE ‘DEFECTOR PILOT’ BHODI IS THEN TAKEN TO MEET SAW’S GANG -

SCENE ENDS ON ‘PULL-BACK’ OF ‘JEDI ROCKS’ -

CUT TO CLOSE-UP OF SAW APPROACHING TO QUESTION BHODI -

BHODI IS TAKEN AWAY WHEN SAW ORDERS “BOR GULLET!” TO HIS GANG (NOTE - I originally WASN’T going to show the creature at all, but will probably include it in the new edited version I came up with to improve it for myself) -

TRANSITIONS TO A TIE-FIGHTER, AS KRENICK AND TARKIN DISCUSS THE ‘DEFECTOR PILOT’ ABOARD A STARDESTROYER NEAR THE DEATH STAR -

SCENE ENDS ON TARKIN LOOKING OUT AT THE DEATH STAR -

CUT TO WOBANI IMPERIAL PRISON PLANET AND JYN’S RESCUE FROM A TRANSPORT VEHICLE (NOTE - I’ll probably cut to the WOBANI planet shot rather than direcly to the transport vehicle…as it might seem as if the transport vehicle is supposed to be on the Death Star that Tarkin is looking at, if I just join those two shots together directly!) -

(REMOVE close-up shots of Jyn ‘suddenly sitting upright’ and ‘the sleeping alien’)

SCENE ENDS ON JYN BEING THROWN ON GROUND BY DROID -

TRANSITIONS TO YAVIN 4 AND JYN’S INTERROGATION BY REBELS -

END OF JYN GETTING INTERROGATED -

TRANSITIONS TO JYN AND CASSIAN ABOUT TO LEAVE REBEL BASE -

SCENE ENDS ON SHIP FLYING AWAY FROM YAVIN 4 -

5. ROGUE ONE MAIN TITLE

(OR alternatively, place receding STAR WARS MAIN TITLE/static starfield over ROGUE ONE music/or SILENCE here instead!? - https://caps.pictures/197/7-starwars4/full/star-wars4-movie-screencaps.com-3.jpg )

(NOTE - either way, I might decide to put MAIN TITLE immediately after No. 2 wording instead?)

NOTE - I MIGHT BE DISCARDING THE ‘ROGUE ONE’ AND ‘SOLO’ MAIN TITLES ALTOGETHER FOR MY VERSIONS, SO I’D CUT FROM THE SHOT OF TARKIN STARING AT THE DEATH STAR TO THE SHOT OF JYNN AWAKENING SUDDENLY INSTEAD, AS THE SHIP APPROACHES JEDHA - the choice I have to make is whether to KEEP the movie’s current order of scenes which give the impression that the REBELS know about the defector BEFORE the EMPIRE does (even though my opening scene has one of Saw’s men saying the Imperials will be looking for the defector - and also because I’m discarding the scene of Cassian being told about it by an informer)…OR to try and cut it in the way I’ve shown above - but this rests on the cut from the ship leaving Yavin 4 directly to the close-up shot of Jynn waking up suddenly working smoothly

ALTERNATIVELY - I COULD START WITH BHODI CAPTURED BY SAW’S GANG, WHICH TRANSITIONS AS NORMAL TO WOBANI PLANET AND JYN’S JAILBREAK, WHICH TRANSITIONS AS NORMAL TO YAVIN 4 AND JYN’S INTERROGATION…BUT CUT TO SAW’S LEGS AND THE BHODI’S INTEROGATION WHICH TRANSITIONS TO TARKIN ON THE DEATH STAR, AT THE END OF JYN’S INTERROGATION WHERE HER CLOSE-UP IS OFFERED FREEDOM…AND THEN CUT TO JYN AND CASSIAN WALKING IN THE BASE JUST AFTER THE SHOT OF TARKIN STARING AT THE DEATH STAR, AND ONCE THAT SCENE ENDS WITH THE SHIP ACCELERATING AWAY FROM YAVIN 4, I COULD THEN CUT TO THE CLOSE-UP OF JYN WAKING UP SUDDENLY AS THE SHIP APPROACHES JHEDDA

GO INTO WHY I’M NOT KEEN ON THE LACK OF FOX LOGO AND FANFARE TO KICK THINGS OFF, AND MIGHT SHOW THIS CARTOON IMAGE (should I also show the cartoony font saying ‘A Long Time Ago…etc.’ along with it, or not??) -

Mention this link about the 20th Century Fox logo and fanfare in my final description - https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/why-disney-should-add-foxs-fanfare-back-star-wars-1067900

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/why-disney-should-add-foxs-fanfare-back-star-wars-1067900

START OFF with the familiar 20th Century Fox/Lucasfilm logos and fanfare of previous Star Wars movies -

CUT to the Jedha Imperial-occupied moon for my NEW OPENING, as the ‘defector pilot’ Bhodi is taken to meet Saw’s gang -

Scene ends on ‘pull-back’ of ‘jedi rocks’ -

TRANSITIONS AS NORMAL to Wobani Imperial Prison Planet and Jyn’s rescue from a transport vehicle -

(REMOVE close-up shots of Jyn ‘suddenly sitting upright’ and ‘the sleeping alien’) NOTE - “Somebody wake up Hicks!”

Scene ends on Jyn being thrown on ground by droid -

TRANSITIONS AS NORMAL to Yavin 4 and Jyn’s interrogation by rebels -

(NOTE - we are given a full introduction to Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso during this, and also given full details concerning Saw Gerrera, Galen Erso, and the defector)

End of Jyn getting interrogated -

CUT to close-up of Saw approaching Bhodi to question him -

(NOTE - I MIGHT end up putting the zoom-in on Saw’s hide-out first, if the audio blends in okay)

Bhodi is taken away when Saw orders “Bor Gullet!” to his gang (NOTE - I definately WON’T be including the CGI creature however!) -

TRANSITIONS AS NORMAL to a tie-fighter, as Krenick and Tarkin discuss the ‘defector pilot’ aboard a stardestroyer near the death star -

Scene ends on Tarkin looking out at the death star -

CUT to Jyn and Cassian about to leave rebel base -

Scene ends on ship flying away from Yavin 4 -

CUT to close-up of Jyn suddenly awakening as ship approaches Jedha -

(NOTE - I’m discarding the ‘flashback dream’ footage which normally comes before this)

!!!

HD RELEASE LUCASFILM INTRO. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FNiyvy31ew

6th POST

Okay, I’m now going to describe how I’d like to see the beginning of ROGUE ONE done differently, but first, I’d like to discuss the new intro. layout that DISNEY came up with for their movies -

Like others at the time, I sorely missed the familiar 20TH CENTURY FOX logo and fanfare for a little extra bit of anticipation before the iconic blue A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away… wording silently appeared to introduce the crescendo of the equally iconic STAR WARS main title and scroll theme…and found the new replacement to be very weak sauce and lacklustre in comparison. In addition to that, I also disliked the way the new silver LUCASFILM logo and blue wording were both reduced in size compared to the bigger versions previously seen at the start of THE FORCE AWAKENS.

So for my own viewing purposes someday, I’d much prefer to REINSTATE the 20th CENTURY FOX logo and fanfare at the start of THE FORCE AWAKENS, THE LAST JEDI, and THE RISE OF SKYWALKER, to restore some continuity throughout the Original Trilogy, Prequel Trilogy, and Sequel Trilogy ‘Skywalker saga’ movies for myself.

However, I’m content that the lack of fanfare intros./scrolls for the ‘standalone’ movies such as ROGUE ONE and SOLO helps to differentiate them from the ‘main 9-movie saga’ for myself anyway…although I’d prefer to give them a similar new silent intro. instead, which includes a certain ‘Star Warsy’ element which I really missed.

So here’s my proposed NEW OPENING for ROGUE ONE which I’d prefer to see - I had originally intended to COMPLETELY DISCARD ALL THE OPENING SCENES of the existing movie…and begin with the ‘the planet Jedha with the defecting cargo pilot and Saw’s gang’ instead…as I’m not too keen on the current opening, nor the fact that we start off with Jyn as a youngster, nor the fact that Captain Ando ruthlessly backshoots his defenceless contact when we first meet him - so I wanted to introduce the two main protagonists in a different way, and preferred to just have Captain Ando first appear at Jyn’s interrogation at the rebel base instead, seeing as it works as a good introduction to him, where he explains everything anyway.

HOWEVER, I eventually decided to start off with the two main protagonists rather than the defector after all, but WITHOUT Captain Ando killing his contact -

We START OFF with the SILENT silver LUCASFILM logo and blue wording -

(NOTE - I’d DISCARD the smaller logo and lettering that were seen in ROGUE ONE, as shown HERE and HERE , as I much prefer the larger versions that were seen in THE FORCE AWAKENS instead) - PUT THIS IN A BLUE BOX?

CUT to -

CUT to -

NOTE - IF YOU PLAY THESE ONE AFTER ANOTHER, YOU’LL GET A BETTER IDEA OF HOW THIS WAY LOOK -

1. Silver LUCASFILM logo - https://streamable.com/0snvf

2. Receding STAR WARS title - https://streamable.com/s9s6k

3. Blue wording - https://streamable.com/esw0i

…and then we CUT* to the ROGUE ONE title -

NOTE - The ROGUE ONE title starts off much closer to us before it recedes away, so that we initially only see the letters showing ‘GUE O’ at first.

…and then we continue on as normal, as we get our first glimpse of Jyn -

…as she wakes and sits up, and we end on this shot -

NOTE - She is seen to sit a bit more upright than this shot below actually shows.

THIS IS JUST A POSSIBILITY, AS I MIGHT YET GO WITH THE FAMILIAR 20TH CENTURY FOX LOGO AND ‘RAINBOW’ LUCASFILM LOGO INSTEAD - Also, would I need begin the ‘theme’ music over some of the previous blue wording before the ‘ROGUE ONE’ title appears, or even just a little bit over blackness BEFORE the title appears??

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NOTE - This is the point where I’d prefer to reposition some of the earlier footage I like from the start of the movie instead, as a way of revealing more of Jyn’s backstory from when she was younger.

FINAL NEW ROGUE ONE OPENING - ALSO SHOW HOW I WAS ORIGINALLY GOING TO START WITH ‘JEDI ROCKS’ SCENE WITH BHODI, THEN CONTINUE ON AS NORMAL UNTIL JYN IS THROWN ON GROUND BY TALL DROID, THEN CUT TO ‘ROGUE ONE’ TITLE AND THEME, THEN CUT TO SHIP TRAVELLING TO YAVIN 4 AND THE REBEL BASE - AS A ‘REPRISE’ OF THE THEME WORKED PRETTY WELL I THOUGHT.

6th POST

So here’s my proposed new opening for ROGUE ONE now.

There’s a LOT I like about this movie, but once again there’s plenty throughout I’d prefer to alter. However, the MAIN thing I would change for myself is the way the beginning was structured. My own preference would be to start off with Jyn as an adult, rather than as a child…and luckily, there’s a straightforward way to do this without scrapping all of the early scenes.

But before I start, I’d like to mention the opening title introduction to the movie first -

Like others, I really missed the familiar 20th Century Fox logo and fanfare, but to have it open SILENTLY without the usual STAR WARS title and scroll theme music too, felt really jarring at the time…and seemed pretty weak sauce compared to the triumphant introduction of previous entries in the franchise.

And on top of that, I didn’t care for the fact that the new silver LUCASFILM logo and it’s follow-up blue wording had been shrunk in size as seen here -

But I’m using ROGUE ONE to END my personal ‘Star Wars saga’ viewing order on, as I just look on it as an additional fun watch AFTER the ‘main’ 9-chapter ‘SKYWALKER’ storyline concludes…so I’m content for the likes of it and other ‘standalone’ movie storylines such as SOLO to start off less bombastically than the ‘main saga’ chapters do anyway, as a way to differentiate them somewhat.

However, I’d still prefer to alter the current opening intro a little for myself, to restore just a bit more of that ‘Star Warsy’ anticipation which I missed…and there are a couple of options which I’m considering -

One would go like this -

We START OFF with the familiar 20th Century Fox logo and fanfare

NOTE - I believe there’s a new Disney version of the logo without the ‘A News Corporation Company’ now, so I’d probably use that.

…but the fanfare would finish over the LARGER silver LUCASFILM logo which was seen in THE FORCE AWAKENS instead -

…before the blue wording silently appears and eventually fades away too -

…and at this point, the movie begins.

However, here’s an alternative version which I’m equally mulling over too…which I’ll use as the introduction to start off my alterations now -

We START OFF with the familiar STAR WARS title, as it SILENTLY recedes away from us and fades out -

…as the silver LUCASFILM logo silently appears -

…before the blue wording silently appears and eventually fades out too -

…and then we CUT* to the ROGUE ONE title as the main theme music kicks in -

C-T (this shot below is from ‘Cap-That’ screenshots site)

NOTE - The ROGUE ONE title starts off much larger than shown in the shot above, as we only see the letters showing ‘GUE O’ when it first appears, and it also recedes much smaller than shown in the shot below.

C-T

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…and then we continue on as normal, as the music fades away, and we get our first introduction to Jyn Erso -

…as a drip on her forehead wakes her up and she sits upright, and we end on this shot -

NOTE - Jyn actually sits more fully upright than shown in the shot above.

ALSO - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of Jyn wiping her forehead - CLICK HERE , and I’d also prefer to discard the shot of her sleeping alien cellmate which then appears immediately after - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Jyn sitting upright, as she looks out her prison cell to see a stormtrooper guard walk past -

…and then we continue on as normal, as the music swells and we head to the RING OF KAFRENE TRADING OUTPOST -

…as we pan down to a busy marketplace, and get our first introduction to Cassian Andor -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of the aliens at the food stall, to quicken the pace here slightly - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Cassian continuing to walk through the busy marketplace as a stormtrooper approaches -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Cassian turns to run down an alley, and meets up with a contact who’s nervously waiting to tell him some news from Jedha. The contact tells Cassian “AN IMPERIAL PILOT…ONE OF THE CARGO DRIVERS, HE DEFECTED YESTERDAY…HE’S TELLING PEOPLE THEY’RE MAKING A WEAPON…THE KYBER CRYSTALS, THAT’S WHAT THEY’RE FOR”

Then Cassian asks “WHAT KIND OF WEAPON?”, as the contact anxiously tries to leave saying “LOOK, I HAVE TO GO”…

…as Cassian suddenly grabs him and shoves him back, demanding “WHAT KIND OF WEAPON?!”

…as the contact yells “A PLANET KILLER!”

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - This isn’t a biggie by any means, but I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of the contact yelling “THAT’S WHAT HE CALLED IT!”, as he knocks Cassian’s hand away - CLICK HERE , because Cassian is then seen to still be holding the contact’s coat in the next shot immediately afterwards…and although the contact’s face is not lined up exactly between the two shots I’d join together instead, I reckon it would look less jarring in motion than seeing Cassian still holding his jacket after being shrugged off…as the contact is then seen to shrug off Cassian’s hand just afterwards anyway.

…and then we CUT* to Cassian taken aback as he says “A PLANET KILLER?..” in a hushed tone -

…as the contact shrugs Cassian’s hand off, saying “SOMEONE NAMED ERSO SENT HIM, SOME OLD FRIEND OF SAW’S”, as Cassian then says “GALEN ERSO!..”, then demands “…WAS IT?!” -

…as the contact says “I DON’T KNOW, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR SAW WHEN WE LEFT…”

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point where Cassian says “WHO ELSE KNOWS ABOUT THIS?” , and the contact replies “I HAVE NO IDEA” - CLICK HERE , and I’d also prefer to discard the shot which appears immediately after it too, where the contact says “IT’S ALL FALLING APART…SAW’S RIGHT…” - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to the contact loudly saying “…THERE’S SPIES EVERYWHERE!”, as two stormtroopers appear saying “WHAT’S ALL THIS?..C’MON, LET’S SEE SOME SCAN DOCS”

…as Cassian pretends to kneel down for his gloves, then turns around to shoot the stormtroopers -

…as his shocked contact says “NO…WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!”, while people at the the end of the ally react, and Cassian looks for a way out -

…as people flee the area -

…as a stormtrooper appears at the end of the alley, and reports “TROOPERS DOWN, SECTOR NINE!” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of the contact saying “I’LL NEVER CLIMB OUT OF HERE, MY ARM!” - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to several stormtroopers running through the crowds, saying “GET OUT OF THE WAY…MOVE,MOVE!” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the scene which appears at this point of Cassian saying “CALM DONW, CALM DOWN…IT WILL BE ALRIGHT” as he then back-shoots his unsuspecting contact - CLICK HERE, as that put me right off his character from the start when he did that. When Cassian has no choice but to escape himself, I’d rather have seen him just having to leave his unfortunate contact to an uncertain fate, instead of ruthlessly backshooting him…as I wanted to like his character better during this first impression of him, and he was already a ‘badass’ after shooting the two stormtroopers.

…and then we CUT* to a close-up of Cassian tucking his blaster away as an alarm blares -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d discard the beginning of the shot which appears at this point of Cassian looking down - CLICK HERE , and just start from the point where he’s already turned to make his escape, which will give the impression that he’s just having to leave his contact behind to his fate.

…and then we CUT* to Cassian starting to make his getaway, as the music rises and he climbs out of the alley -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we head to the JEDHA IMPERIAL-OCCUPIED MOON, where the defecting cargo pilot Bhodi is captured by Saw’s gang -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we head to the WOBANI IMPERIAL PRISON PLANET and a large transport vehicle appears -

…as we see that Jyn is now aboard the vehicle in chains along with other prisoners -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d discard the shot which appears at this point of Jyn suddenly sitting upright instead of leaning forward like her other shots - CLICK HERE , and I’d also discard this close-up of the alien which then appears immediately afterwards too - CLICK HERE , as I’d prefer to make it look like the prisoner opposite Jyn is looking over at the stormtrooper guards at this point instead.

…and then we CUT* to the stormtrooper guards -

…as Jyn is looking back and forth, until the transport vehicle suddenly jolts to a halt -

…as a stormtrooper guard says “WHAT NOW?” as he stands up, and another stormtrooper replies “I DON’T KNOW, MUST BE ANOTHER PICKUP” -

…as the stormtrooper guard says “I THOUGHT WE HAD EVERYBODY”, as he reacts to a knocking sound, and turns around -

…as armed rebel troops board the transport vehicle -

…and the rebels identify Jyn as ‘Liana Hallik’, and free her from her chains. Jyn then proceeds to attack the rebels with a handy shovel, and then runs towards the transport vehicle door to escape -

…as a tall droid stops her, and throws her to the ground -

…as the tall droid says “CONGRATULATIONS, YOU ARE BEING RESCUED…PLEASE DO NOT RESIST” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we head to YAVIN 4 and the REBEL ALLIANCE BASE -

…as Jyn is taken into the rebel base for questioning -

…and we continue on as normal, as we learn a lot of information about Jyn’s background when she is initially spoken to by General Draven, Mon Mothma, and Captain Cassian Andor -

General Draven speaks saying “YOU’RE CURRENTLY CALLING YOURSELF LIANA HALLIK. IS THAT CORRECT? POSSESSION OF UNSANCTIONED WEAPONS. FORGERY OF IMPERIAL DOCUMENTS. AGGRAVATED ASSAULT. ESCAPE FROM CUSTODY. RESISTING ARREST. IMAGINE IF THE IMPERIAL AUTHORITIES HAD FOUND OUT WHO YOU REALLY WERE, JYN ERSO. THAT IS YOUR GIVEN NAME, IS IT NOT? JYN ERSO, DAUGHTER OF GALEN ERSO. A KNOWN IMPERIAL COLLABORATOR IN WEAPONS DEVELOPMENT.”**

…as Mon Mothma then tells Jyn it’s a chance for her to make a fresh start, and that they think that she can help them…as she then introduces Captain Cassian Andor who proceeds to question Jyn…who tells him that she hasn’t seen her father since 15 years, and that Saw Gerrera saved her life when she was a child, and raised her…but that she hasn’t seen him since years.

…and we also find out that the rebels want her to help them to meet with Saw, to get access to the ‘Imperial defector’ to confirm his story about the weapon, and to try and locate Jyn’s father and bring him back to testify about it to the Senate.

…as Jyn and Cassian walk towards a ship where the tall droid K-2SO is already aboard, as General Draven calls Cassian over to quietly order him to ignore what was said about taking Galen Erso back, and that he’s to kill him instead if he finds him.

…and then we continue on as normal, as Cassian, Jyn, and K-2SO fly off on their mission -

…and then we continue on as normal, as a pair of metal legs approach, and we hear the words “LIES…DECEPTIONS!” -

…as we get our first introduction to Saw Gerrera who suspiciously confronts Bhodi -

…as Saw orders “BOR GULLET!” to his gang, and Bhodi is hooded again and taken away -

…and then we continue on as normal, as a TIE Fighter screams past, and a stardestroyer comes into view in front of the Death Star -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Krennic approaches Tarkin on a stardestroyer, where Tarkin discusses the missing cargo pilot and the need for an immediate test of the weapon…and that failure will find him explaining why to a far less patient audience -

…as Krennic says “I WILL NOT FAIL”, then turns to leave, as Tarkin looks out at the Death Star -

…and then we continue on as normal, as the screen momentarily goes black before the first part of Jyn’s ‘flashback’ dream of past times with her parents begins -

…as Jyn’s father Galen comes over to Jyn saying “WHAT’S THE MATTER JYNA?..ARE YOU AFRAID?”

…and then we continue on as normal, as Galen playfully lifts her up and puts her to bed saying “I’LL ALWAYS PROTECT YOU” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to have Saw with a headful of hair right from the start, as I found the transformation of him starting out as completely bald to then having an abundance of hair to be quite jarring…so I’d discard the rest of the ‘flashback’ shots which appear at this point which end with his bald appearance opening the hatch - CLICK HERE …and would replace them with an alternative, EXTENDED ‘flashback’ at this point instead…as a way of revealing a devastating aspect of Jyn’s past, while allowing me to include important footage and dialogue from the opening which I liked, but didn’t want to start the movie off with.

…and then we CUT* to another time with Jyn as her ‘flashback’ dream takes a turn for the worse, as a black ship screams downwards towards a planet -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of the ship flying over the beach…as well as it’s flyby past the working droid…and the close-up of the droid - CLICK HERE , CLICK HERE , and CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to young Jyn running frantically as the black ship passes overhead -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we see the black ship on a monitor screen -

…as Jyn’s concerned father and mother look on -

…and Jyn eventually reaches her homestead -

…as she says “MAMA!” on entering -

…and her mother Lira says “WE KNOW” -

…as her father Galen tells her “JYN, GATHER YOUR THINGS, IT’S TIME”, and they all hurriedly rush to grab some belongings -

…as Lira rushes towards a monitor in the kitchen area and looks over at Jyn -

…as the monitor beeps and an image appears, and we hear a male voice urgently say “HELLO” -

…as Lira turns to the monitor saying “SAW!”, and we end on this shot -

NOTE - Luckily for my purposes, bald Saw is indistinct in the shot above due to the angle of the monitor, as I’d prefer to discard the close-up shot of the monitor which appears immediately after at this point, where Lira says “…IT’S LIRA, IT HAPPENED…HE’S COME FOR US” - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Jyn looking towards her mother, as we hear Saw advise “YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as the black ship turns to land -

…and we end on this shot as we hear Jyn’s father Galen say “JYNA, COME HERE…” -

…and continues to say “REMEMBER, WHATEVER I DO…I DO IT TO PROTECT YOU…SAY YOU UNDERSTAND” -

…as Jyn says “I UNDERSTAND” -

…and Galen says “I LOVE YOU STARDUST”

…as Jyn says “I LOVE YOU TOO PAPA”

…and Jyn’s mother Lira says “GALEN…” -

…as Galen says “GO!” -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we continue on as normal, as several black troopers approach -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of Krennic and the black troopers - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Galen on his own, as he heads outside -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Jyn and Lira run to hide -

…as Lira whispers “JYN…”, and pulls her behind a rock -

…as Lira says “YOU KNOW WHERE TO GO DON’T YOU?” -

…and Jyn nods silently, and Lira takes off her necklace -

…as Lira says “TRUST THE FORCE”, and gives Jyn her necklace -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard the shot which appears at this point of Krennic and the black troopers - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Galen walking towards the intruders -

…as Jyn stops running and decides to head back -

…as Krennic and the black troopers approach Galen -

…as Krennic says “YOU’RE A HARD MAN TO FIND GALEN…” -

…and continues to say “…BUT FARMING…REALLY?, A MAN OF YOUR TALENTS?” -

…as Galen says “IT’S A PEACEFUL LIFE” -

…and Krennic says “LONELY I IMAGINE” -

…as Galen says “SINCE LIRA DIED, YES” -

…and Krennic says “OH…”, as he walks forwards saying “OH…MY CONDONLENCES”, as he then turns to the black troopers ordering “SEARCH THE HOUSE!” -

…as Galen says “WHAT IS IT YOU WANT?”, and Krennic replies “THE WORK HAS STALLED…I NEED YOU TO COME BACK” -

…and Galen says “I WON’T DO IT KRENNIC” -

…as Krennic says “WE WERE ON THE VERGE OF GREATNESS, WE WERE THIS CLOSE…TO PROVIDING PEACE AND SECURITY FOR THE GALAXY” -

…and Galen says “YOU’RE CONFUSING PEACE WITH TERROR” -

…as Krennic says “WELL…YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE” -

…as the black troopers search Galen’s property -

…as Galen says “I’D BE OF NO HELP KRENNIC…MY MIND JUST ISN’T WHAT IT WAS…” -

…and continues to say “…I’VE TROUBLE REMEMBERING…EVEN THE SIMPLE THINGS” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Jyn is crouched on the ground watching and listening -

…as Krennic says “GALEN…” -

…and continues to say “…YOU’RE AN INSPIRED SCIENTIST, BUT A TERRIBLE LIAR” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we see Lira approaching in the distance, as Krennic says “NOW I ADMIRE THE EFFORT…” -

…and continues to say “…I REALLY DO”, as he turns to notice Lira -

…as we see Lira getting closer, and Krennic says “OH LOOK…” -

…and continues to say “…HERE’S LIRA BACK FROM THE DEAD”, as Galen turns and runs towards her -

…and Krennic says “IT’S A MIRACLE!” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Jyn watches the black stormtroopers raise their guns at Galen -

…as Lira keeps running towards them -

…and Krennic raises his arm and shouts “STOP!” -

NOTE - And again this isn’t a biggie by any means, but there’s another slight continuity error here, so I’d prefer to discard this shot of Krennic which appears at this point, as his arm is suddenly down at his side - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Lira raising her concealed gun -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Krennic says “OH LIRA…TROUBLESOME AS EVER” -

…and Lira shouts “YOU’RE NOT TAKING HIM!” -

…as Krennic says “NO, OF COURSE I’M NOT, I’M TAKING YOU ALL…” -

…and continues to say “…YOU’LL ALL COME, YOU, YOUR CHILD, YOU’LL ALL LIVE IN COMFORT”, as Jyn keeps watching and listening -

…and Lira says “AS HOSTAGES” -

…as Krennic says “AS HEROES OF THE EMPIRE” -

…and Galen says “LIRA…PUT IT DOWN” -

…as Krennic warns “THINK VERY CAREFULLY”, as Galen and Jyn look on -

…and Lira says “YOU WILL NEVER WIN!” -

…as Krennic orders “DO IT!” to the stormtroopers, and they shoot Lira -

…and Lira’s gun shoots Krennic in the shoulder -

…as Jyn sees everthing, and Galen shouts “LIRA…NO!” and rushes over to her -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Krennic yells “THEY HAVE A CHILD!..”, and Jyn starts to flee -

…as Krennic orders “…FIND IT!” -

…and Galen holds his dead wife -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard these next two shots of young Jyn running away which appear at this point - CLICK HERE and CLICK HERE, to slightly quicken the pace here.

…and then we CUT* to Jyn running into a nearby cave -

…as she opens a hidden hatch and climbs in -

…and then shuts the hatch behind her -

…and then we continue on as normal, as black stormtroopers search for Jyn -

…as Jyn peers out a small gap -

…and two black troopers enter the cave -

…as Jyn continues to watch through the gap -

…and the two black troopers turn to leave -

…as Jyn stops watching, and climbs down a ladder -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard this shot of Jyn sitting on the floor which appears at this point - HERE

…and then we CUT* to the stormy exterior of the cave that young Jyn is hiding in -

…as Jyn shakes a lamp in the dark to get it to work properly -

…and then looks upwards when she hears someone approaching -

…as we hear footsteps getting nearer the hatch -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the sound of the hatch opening as adult Jyn suddenly awakens from her ‘flashback’ dream aboard the ship, and looks at the ‘necklace’ her mother gave her -

NOTE - I’m content not to show that it was Saw who opened the hatch, as we already hear Jyn tell the rebels that he saved her life and raised her in this restructure…and we’ve also seen that Jyn’s mother contacted Saw earlier in the ‘flashback’ dream too…so we can reasonably assume that a younger (NON-bald preferably 😉 ) Saw came along and rescued young Jyn at that point, due to those reveals -

…and we then continue on as normal, as Cassian tells K-2SO that they’re coming into orbit, and to take the controls -

…as Jyn puts away her ‘necklace’ and looks out the window -

…as Cassian says “THAT’S JEDHA…OR WHAT’S LEFT OF IT!” -

…as Cassian says “WE FIND SAW…WE FIND YOUR FATHER”, and Jyn stares out the window as the music rises -

…as the ship flies over the surface of Jedha and lands -

…and then we continue on as normal, as the group approach Jedha city -

…and Cassian takes out his macrobinoculars -

…as Jyn says “WHAT’S WITH THE DESTROYER?” -

…and Cassian replies “BECAUSE OF YOUR OLD FRIEND SAW GERRERA…HE’S BEEN ATTACKING THE CARGO SHIPMENTS”, as he looks through the macrobinoculars -

…as Jyn asks “WHAT ARE THEY BRINGING IN?” -

…and Cassian says “IT’S WHAT ARE THEY TAKING OUT”, then passes her his macrobinoculars -

…as Jyn looks through them -

…and Cassian says “THE KYBER CRYSTAL…ALL THEY COULD GET…WE WONDERED WHY THEY WERE RESTRICTING THE TEMPLE…NOW WE KNOW…” -

…and continues to say “…IT’S THE FUEL FOR THE WEAPON” -

…as K-S20 adds “…THE WEAPON YOUR FATHER’S BUILDING” -

…and Jyn says “MAYBE WE SHOULD LEAVE TARGET PRACTICE BEHIND” -

…as K-S2O says “ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT ME?” -

…and Cassian says “SHE’S RIGHT…WE NEED TO BLEND IN…STAY WITH THE SHIP” -

…as K-S2O says “I CAN BLEND IN…I’M AN IMPERIAL DROID…THE CITY IS UNDER IMPERIAL OCCUPATION” -

…and Jyn says “HALF THE PEOPLE HERE WANT TO REPROGRAM YOU…THE OTHER HALF WANT TO PUT A HOLE IN YOUR HEAD”, as Cassian give a wry smirk -

…and K-S20 says “I’M SURPRISED YOU’RE SO CONCERNED WITH MY SAFETY”, as Jyn says “I’M NOT…” -

…and continues to say “…I’M JUST WORRIED THEY MIGHT MISS YOU…AND HIT ME!”, as she hands him a bag -

…and Jyn walks past K-S20, as Cassian gives him a reassuring pat -

…and K-S2O says “DOESN’T SOUND SO BAD TO ME”, as he drops the bag to the ground -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we zoom-in towards Saw’s hide-out -

…where Bhodi is strapped to a chair and we hear a low gutteral roar -

…as the nightmare fuel that is ‘Bor Gullet’ slithers into view -

…and Bhodi looks scared as Saw says “BOR GULLET…CAN FEEL…” -

…and continues to say “…YOUR THOUGHTS”, as we see Bor Gullet’s eye -

…as Saw watches Bor Gullet getting closer to Bhodi, and says “NO LIE…” -

…and continues to say “…IS SAFE!” -

…as a tentacle reaches out at a terrified Bhodi -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d prefer to discard this close-up shot of Bor Gullet’s throbbing eye which appears at this point - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to the tentacles starting to wrap around Bhodi, as Saw says “WHAT HAVE YOU REALLY BROUGHT ME?..” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d also prefer to discard this shot of the tentacles wrapping around Bhodi as Saw continues to say “…CARGO PILOT” which appears at this point - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Saw saying “BOR GULLET…WILL KNOW THE TRUTH…” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d also prefer to discard this shot of the tentacles feeling Bhodi’s head which appears at this point - CLICK HERE

ADDITIONALLY - I’d also prefer to discard this shot of Saw saying “THE UNFORTUNATE SIDE EFFECT…IS THAT ONE TENDS…TO LOSE ONE’S MIND” which appears immediately after - CLICK HERE , as the first few words start off on the previous tentacle shot I want to get rid of.

…and then we CUT* to the engine roar of a cargo ship and TIE fighters flying over Jedha city, as Jyn and Cassian make their way through the city -

NOTE - I’d discard the first part of this shot of the old woman cooking which appears at this point - CLICK HERE , to avoid a continuity mismatch when I cut to another shot featuring the same old woman soon after, where she’s suddenly sitting at another area.

…and then we CUT* to Jyn and Cassian making their way through the bustling city -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - Due to VARIOUS reasons, I’d definitely discard the entire scene of Jyn bumping into the argumentative ‘bad duo’ of Doctor Evazan and Ponda Baba from A NEW HOPE’s Mos Eisley cantina which appears at this point, and ends on this shot as we hear an announcement saying “CITIZENS OF JEDHA…” - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to an old woman sitting beside a hologram of Bhodi, as we hear an announcement saying “…YOU MUST COME FORWARD WITH INFORMATION OF THE LOCATION OF THIS MISSING CARGO PILOT…” -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we faintly hear the words continuing to say …“A REWARD OF 600 CREDITS FOR ANY INFORMATION SHALL BE AWARDED”, and Jyn and Cassian continue to make their way through the city -

NOTE - Although Jyn and Cassian now end up walking on the other side of each other, I’m content that in motion it looks as if Cassian ends up starting to move to the other side of Jyn during the hologram shot of Bhodi, due to the way they’ve had to move past other people at this point.

…and we continue on as normal, as Jyn and Cassian continue on their way through the city -

NOTE - MOST of the links in this post need REDONE as they were ‘hacked’ too. Below is a REDONE version of the link of Jyn and Cassian continuing on their way through the city link above, using the ‘img.screencaps.us’ wording -

So that’s the way I’d like to see the beginning of this particular movie play out for myself, and one day over the coming weeks I’ll get around to showing how I’d prefer to tweak the way it ends too.

In the meantime, since THE RISE OF SKYWALKER is due for release shortly…I thought it might be fun to describe the scenario I’ve got in mind to alter the most problematic entry in the entire ‘saga’ for myself…so THE LAST JEDI is up NEXT.

Heh, I just watched that movie for the first time the other night Bingowings.  Quite good fun throughout, and I wasn't expecting that last line from 'Ray' in front of the kiddies that you quoted there.  He said it with such gusto, lol!

I've now re-typed the *proper* clip I meant to show in my first example above Ripplin.  Check it out!  Even adywan couldn't save this movie.  :)

Ripplin said:

P.S. I've had Starcrash for a long time and it's on my to watch list. Thanks for the reminder.

'THE HUMANOID' was another Italian 'STAR WARS'-influenced movie, which came out a year later.  While 'STARCRASH' had a score by the great John Barry, this one happened to have a score by the equally great Ennio Morricone!

It's never been released on DVD (only videotape) but it seems to be fully up on Youtube if you root around, and can bear it.

Sadly, I can't seem to find the trailer for it, but here's a taste of what audiences at the time had to put up with to fill their 'STAR WARS' void until 'EMPIRE' came along.... 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qADVkUL8gDM&feature=related 

and 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVoIvsTBX-c&feature=related

SilverWook said:

 

SilverWook wrote:

I guess this explains why Lucasfilm forcibly shut down the site of the fan who created essentially the exact same thing a couple years back.

I started a thread on here before it was yanked.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Make-your-own-Star-Wars-crawl/topic/9475/

 Ah, I see.  Thanks SilverWook, that's interesting, as I hadn't seen that thread of yours before.

I noticed that Sluggo foresaw at the time, that the idea would probably end up on the 'official' site eventually....  ;)

Agreed that it seems kinda ironic that it can be used to type *anything* up for sending off to various sources now, lol.  Even for views that they probably wouldn't wish it to be used for....

By the way Bingowings, can you maybe give an idea of the way that guy's original version differs from this 'official' one sometime?  I'm curious to know how they differ.  Thanks.

Neat site zombie84!  I'll be following it's progress with great interest.

That's a pretty neat idea indeed that they've come up with there.  :)

Man, he contributed to lots of movies I've liked over the years....

A very talented writer.

Personally, I’d have preferred THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY movie to have been the ‘KIRK’ character’s FINAL onscreen mission, giving the impression that he’d remained safely ‘signed off’ at the end of it…rather than going on to be permanently ‘killed off’ in a ‘Next Generation’ hand-over!  Talk about an unnecessary cinematic downer for the original series fans…

It was bad enough that we once thought we’d permanently lost ‘SPOCK’ at the end of THE WRATH OF KHAN, lol.  But unlike 'SPOCK’s great ‘death’ scene, the ‘collapsing bridge’ just didn’t satisfy as a way of getting rid of one of Starfleet’s finest this time around…

STAR TREK: GENERATIONS  (released 1994/directed by David Carson)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xysB9ENOHl8

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukVv0pMaAPU

Still, there’s always this particular fanedit below, which redresses the unfortunate GENERATIONS outcome a little…as ‘KIRK’ ends up having nothing to do with those pesky ‘Next Geners’ whatsoever in this version…

KIRKLESS GENERATIONS  (released 2006/fanedited by The CCB Group)

Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8GjQ8U7jNI

However, it’s just a pity ‘PICARD’ hadn’t thought of this in the original…  😉

Alternate ‘GENERATIONS’ Ending - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_5h0BRO5O4

Okay, on with the trailers…

STAR TREK  (released 2009/directed by J. J. Abrams)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRKgDRID1F4

Theatrical Trailer 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt4mElhGugw

Theatrical Trailer 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgNIbVEnQWo

**Coming Soon… ** A sequel is currently in the early stages of development for release in 2012…

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Okay, although my ideal ending of REVENGE OF THE SITH involves the layout I showed in my previous post, due to the fact that I’d rather include certain imagery of Darth Vader SILENT ( ! ) in the suit…some of you might be interested to see what I ORIGINALLY wanted as an ending when I briefly toyed with the notion of starting my ‘viewing order’ with the PREQUEL TRILOGY ages ago, until I decided against it for the numerous reasons I’ve previously mentioned. -

I’ve got to pick a spot to show how things would have flowed, so this point is as good as any…and of course, everything BEFORE this scene would have been laid out in the exact same way as described in my previous post -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Obi-wan carries Padme down the ramp of her ship, and Bail says “WE’LL TAKE HER TO THE MEDICAL CENTRE, QUICKLY!”

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the Emperor ship’s on a stormy Coruscant platform, as he accompanies Anakin’s medical capsule -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d discard the shot of the Emperor’s ship coming in to land on the Coruscant building’s platform before the shot above…as I’ve already seen it fold it’s wings and land on Mustafar earlier anyway, and would just prefer to see the Emperor disembarking with the medical capsule instead, as I like it’s juxtaposition with the shot of everyone getting off Padme’s ship beforehand - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to Padme being attended to in the medical facility, as a medical droid says “…WE ARE LOSING HER” -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Obi-wan says SHE’S DYING?" -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the medical droid saying “WE NEED TO OPERATE QUICKLY, IF WE ARE TO SAVE THE BABIES” -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to Yoda as he takes in the situation -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the medical droid saying “SHE’S CARRYING TWINS” -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I wanted to get rid of the ‘she’s lost the will to live’ nonsense of course, and I had already put together a version of all the medical facility shots and dialogue which I preferred, and included it here…UNTIL I remembered that someone mentioned in the past that R2D2 shouldn’t really have interacted with Yoda at any point…as they don’t seem to recognise each other when they meet on ‘Dagobah’ in THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK! Well this bugged me, as I agree with that…and as far as I recall, this is the only instance we actually see them together throughout the PREQUELS…so while it was a pity to lose shots of the neat medical set, it was more important to me to smooth the continuity better for myself, and I ended up having to redo the whole sequence WITHOUT any of the shots of C3PO and R2D2 inside the actual medical facility with Yoda and Co. …and very luckily, there was just enough of the relevant dialogue in the shots without them to make a new sequence I was satisfied with, before I posted this today. 😃

…and then we CUT* to Obi-wan looking solemn, as he walks over to look through the glass -

…and puts his hand over his mouth, and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to Anakin on an operating table, as medical droids attach metal legs to him -

…as he screams in agony…

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to Padme’s head moving slightly, as she exhales her final breath -

…as she passes away, and we end on this shot -

NOTE - Yes, Padme remains done for in this version…but she managed to hold out long enough for the medical facility to save her twins, so that’s good. And it also means I can keep the funeral procession scenes which I like. I’d prefer for Padme to be fatally damaged by what Anakin did to her on Mustafar, and unable to say anything before she dies…as it’s all I need to see of her since we last saw her being attended to in the medical facility as shown above, since I’d rather discard the all the child-birth moments in-between! 😃

…and then we continue on as normal, as Obi-wan looks on distressed while holding one of her babies -

…and Yoda turns away sadly, and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the Tantive ship arriving at Naboo -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we continue on as normal, as Yoda discusses the twins with Bail and Obi-wan aboard the Tantive ship -

…as they agree that the twins should be separated for their safety, before Yoda says “UNTIL THE TIME IS RIGHT, DISAPPEAR WE WILL”, and they bow in respect and go to leave, and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d discard the rest of the sequence which appears at this point, where Yoda tells Obi-wan that he has training on Tattooine for him, and that Qui-gon has returned from the netherworld of the Force, and that he will teach him how to commune with him…as I’m just not keen on it personally, and don’t need every single ‘loose end’ explained away. And anyway, there might even be a ‘surprise’ appearance of Qui-gon’s ‘Forceghost’ at the end of THE RISE OF SKYWALKER somewhere for all we know…so I can wait until then to see him appear as one, if that’s the case. 😉

…and then we CUT* to Padme’s sombre funeral procession on Naboo -

…as we have our final look at Luke and Leia’s mother -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the Tantive ship heading to Alderaan -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - I’d discard this shot of the Tantive ship heading down into the city which appears at this point, as I’m just not keen on it personally - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to the Tantive ship landing on a platform in the city -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to the Tantive ship’s interior, as Bail prepares to leave, and tells Captain Antilles to wipe C3PO’s memory -

…as a startled C3PO says “WHAT?” -

…and R2D2 beeps in amusement -

…as C3PO nervously says “OH NO…” -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we CUT* to Yoda’s transport heading to ‘Dagobah’, as he goes into self-imposed exile -

NOTE - This deleted ‘Dagobah’ scene actually begins with slow pan to the left of the planet BEFORE the noise of Yoda’s transport comes into the shot, although I couldn’t find a pic of it…but I’m including a clip link below this as a reminder of how it looks and sounds in motion.

…as his transport lands, then opens up -

…and Yoda looks out -

…and we end on this shot -

Here’s the clip - CLICK HERE

…and then we CUT* to a large balcony on Alderaan -

…and we end on this shot -

NOTE - Because I’ve tried to give the impression that Padme didn’t recover to name her twins herself before she died, I’m going to assume that it was actually their respective adoptive parents who named the babies themselves.

…and then we continue on as normal, as Senator Bail presents his wife with a baby girl -

…and we end on this shot -

…and then we continue on as normal, as we see the baby girl’s face -

…and we end on this ‘wipe’ shot to Obi-wan on Tattooine -

…as Obi-wan dismounts -

…and then meets up with Beru -

…as he hands the baby over to her -

…and we see the baby boy’s face -

…as Beru smiles -

…and Obi-wan smiles back at her -

…as Beru turns to take the baby over to Owen -

…while Obi-wan watches them for a moment, then turns to leave -

…as Beru shows Owen the baby -

…and they both turn to look in the distance -

…as they watch familiar twin suns, before we conclude on this ‘wipe’ shot to the end credits -

So that’s how I’d have chosen to keep Darth Vader’s suited appearance (and voice) unseen (and unheard) for myself, until his usual first entrance in A NEW HOPE…had I decided to start a saga ‘viewing order’ with the PREQUEL TRILOGY first.

NEXT UP, I’ll describe my proposed NEW OPENING for SOLO…

STAR TREK: ORIGINAL SERIES  (originally shown 1966 - 1969)

Here’s just a few examples of the ‘remastered’ episodes -

‘The Corbomite Maneuver’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-SAkMqCBCs

‘Balance Of Terror’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbF9ciY3z5g

‘Arena’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUSAqutzLcI

‘Tomorrow Is Yesterday’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GztxgCJ0U

‘Space Seed’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKbm5x8gCpw

‘Errand Of Mercy’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMJMYf2zuuM

‘City On The Edge Of Forever’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhSoQl-YKXQ

‘Amok Time’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMTafluZbHI

‘The Doomsday Machine’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH-XWwj07v8

‘The Trouble With Tribbles’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lh1KtpKnAE

STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE  (released 1979/directed by Robert Wise)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et7Cji7y1uY

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4jR7Vicoz8

‘Director’s Edition’ Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okJx2lJze2M

STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN  (released 1982/directed by Nickolas Meyer)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fxpOGMmbVU

STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK  (released 1984/directed by Leonard Nimoy)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAYgn_2u3dA

STAR TREK IV: THE VOYAGE HOME  (released 1986/directed by Leonard Nimoy)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRzZWm8_fqc

STAR TREK V: THE FINAL FRONTIER  (released 1989/directed by William Shatner)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjjn6H3mhao

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmGMyvMPiT8

STAR TREK VI: THE UNDISCOVERED COUNTRY  (released 1991/directed by Nicholas Meyer)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JYoXGbmE60

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI9mq-aeqBg

NOTE - I’M NOT 100% SURE IF THIS IS THE EXACT ORDER OF THE NEW OPENING TO MY BLADE RUNNER 2049 EDIT YET. -

INTERNATIONAL SONY LOGO INTRO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyo_XWUUV6Q

1. USA WARNER/SONY LOGO INTRO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWHXJJb1t5Y (I PREFER THIS WARNER VERSION!)

2. BLADE RUNNER 2049 END TITLES - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmc_-DXiTN8 (JUST A TRIMMED VERSION WITH INITIAL CREDITS AND MUSIC, NOT THE ‘CAST CREDITS’ SECTION AND MUSIC)

3. 2036 NEXUS DAWN SHORT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgsS3nhRRzQ (NOTE - THIS MIGHT END UP IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE WARNER/SONY LOGO INSTEAD…FOLLOWED BY THE INFO WORDING OF WALLACE ENDING WITH THE RED ‘BLADE RUNNER’ WORDING…FOLLOWED BY THE 2048 NOWHERE TO RUN SHORT…FOLLOWED BY A TRIMMED VERSION OF THE BLADE RUNNER 2049 END TITLES AS MY NEW MAIN TITLES…FOLLOWED BY WHAT I WROTE IN 6. BELOW - IS THIS THE MOST LIKELY ORDER, DUE TO ME PREFERRING TO HAVE THE 2049 TITLE DATE COME AFTER THE 2036 AND 2048 DATES? - OR perhaps even put the 2048 NOWHERE TO RUN SHORT immediately after the 2036 NEXUS DAWN SHORT…followed by the BLADE RUNNER 2049 END CREDITS as my MAIN TITLE…followed by the INFO WORDING OF WALLACE ENDING WITH THE RED ‘BLADE RUNNER’ WORDING as it transitions as normal with the music over the opening eye, except keep that bit BLACK until we see the ‘eye’-like solar panels which the spinner eventually flies over??

4. INTRO AND OPENING - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9L0pord5jE (JUST THE INFO WORDING OF WALLACE ENDING WITH THE RED ‘BLADE RUNNER’ WORDING, NOT THE OPENING EYE FOOTAGE ONWARDS)

5. 2048 NOWHERE TO RUN SHORT - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ9Os8cP_gg

6. AS THE MUSIC TO THE OPENING EYE KICKS IN, I MIGHT DISCARD THAT AND KEEP EVERYTHING BLACK UNTIL WE EVENTUALLY SEE THE ‘EYE’-LIKE SOLAR PANELS WHICH THE SPINNER EVENTUALLY FLIES OVER.

NOTE - I MIGHT EVEN DO THIS ORDER - WB/SONY LOGOS…THEN CUT TO 2036 NEXUS DAWN SHORT (slightly edited at start)…THEN CUT TO BLADE RUNNER 2049 END CREDITS AS MY ‘MAIN TITLE’…THEN CUT TO 2048 NOWHERE TO RUN SHORT…THEN CUT TO INFO WORDING OF WALLACE ENDING WITH THE RED ‘BLADE RUNNER’ WORDING, THEN CONTINUE ON IN WAY I DESCRIBED 6.

NOTE - WE SEE THE 2049 DATE NEAR THE START OF THE INITIAL ‘SPINNER APPROACH’ SCENE WHEN THE WORDS CALIFORNIA 2049 APPEAR.

ALSO NOTE - I THINK I’D PREFER TO REMOVE THE SHOTS OF WALLACE CUTTING/KILLING THE NAKED FEMALE REPLICANT AS IT’S JUST GRATUITOUS I RECKON.

MATINEE  (released 1993/directed by Joe Dante)

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wwAH5vJq6g

HALF MAN, HALF ANT.  ALL TERROR!  Here’s a little extra goodness…

MANT! Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_kTbWDxITw

PLEASE NOTE - Just in case anyone happens to stumble across this old ‘Trailers’ thread of mine sometime - although I’ve got many diverse ‘scene edits’ worked out for future use, I’m just temporarily using this space to visualise a few select ones for myself before I get a chance to set up a ‘personal blog’ to show a lot more ideas eventually! 😃

HOW I’D LIKE TO RE-EDIT THE OPENING OF ‘PROMETHEUS’ -

Although a lot of fan editors ADD the extended footage of additional ‘elder Engineers’ to the existing footage of an ‘Engineer’ sacrificing himself by willingly ingesting the ‘black goo’, I’d prefer to DISCARD this ‘Engineer’ opening altogether, so that the reveal of what the ‘Engineers’ actually look like is kept a mystery till later on…right up until the running ‘hologram recordings’ appear initially.

So this is how I’d like to re-structure my new opening instead -

NOTE - I COULD EVEN DISCARD THE REST OF THE LOGOS AT THIS POINT, AND BEGIN MY NEW OPENING NOW? NOT SURE YET.

TRANSITIONS to DUNE entertainment logo

TRANSITIONS to SCOTT FREE logo

NOTE - I COULD EVEN DISCARD THE REST OF THE LOGOS AT THIS POINT, AND BEGIN MY NEW OPENING NOW? NOT SURE YET.

2OTH CENTURY FOX/SCOTT FREE VIDEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjHjoHrb63Y

EXTENDED FIRST 20 MINS. VIDEO (COULD USE FOR EDITING IN ‘STREAMABLE’?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUhjTo16i8

TRANSITIONS to TWENTIETH CENTURY FOX presents wording, as ‘earth crescent’ appears

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TRANSITIONS to in association with DUNE ENTERTAINMENT wording, as ‘earth crescent’ fades to black

NOTE - I COULD EVEN PUT ‘PROMETHEUS’ MAIN TITLE HERE AT THIS POINT? NOT SURE YET.

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EXTENDED 2023 TED TALK VIDEO - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4SSU29Arj0

CUT to ‘PROMETHEUS’ main title against black background, as wording fades out -

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MAIN TITLE VIDEO (COULD CUT DOWN IN ‘STREAMABLE’?) -

https://vimeo.com/205981596

EXTENDED FIRST 20 MINS. VIDEO (COULD USE FOR EDITING IN ‘STREAMABLE’?) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHUhjTo16i8

CUT to ‘cave dig’ scene, which begins in blackness - NOTE - OR DO I DISCARD THIS AND CUT TO SPACE, AS SHIP APPEARS INSTEAD?? NOT SURE YET.

NOTE - I MIGHT DECIDE TO CUT FROM ‘TED TALK’ FADE TO BLACK DIRECTLY TO BLACK ‘CAVE SCENE’, AND CUT TO 'PROMETHEUS[ MAIN TITLE AT THIS POINT, BEFORE CUTTING TO SHIP AND WORDING? NOT SURE YET.

TRANSITIONS TO DEEP SPACE, AS TINY SHIP PASSES LEFT TO RIGHT -

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NOTE - ONLY CLIP I COULD FIND OF THIS SHOT - ALSO NOTE - I MIGHT DECIDE TO DISCARD ‘CAVE SCENE’, AND JUST CUT FROM THE ‘PROMETHEUS’ MAIN TITLE DIRECTLY TO THIS SHOT OF THE SHIP AND IT’S WORDING INSTEAD? OR…I MIGHT DECIDE TO DO THIS BEGINNING INSTEAD - 2OTH CENTURY FOX LOGO AND FANFARE AS IT FADES TO BLACK (WITH NO ADDITIONAL LOGOS, SO THAT WE GET THE SAME FEEL OF THEN GOING STRAIGHT INTO THE MOVIE AFTER IT LIKE THE PREVIOUS ALIEN MOVIES) / CUT TO THE PETER WEYLAND TED TALK AS IT FADES TO BLACK AND CHEERING FADES / CUT TO SILENT BLACK ‘PROMETHEUS’ TITLE AS IT FADES TO BLACK / CUT TO SILENT SPACE AS TINY SHIP PANS ACROSS, AND WE THEN SEE ‘MISSION’ WORDING AS THE SHIP COMES INTO VIEW. - NOT SURE YET.

https://vimeo.com/342370803

FIRST SCENES OF DAVID ON THE SHIP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWuLmGtEmeY

NOTE - I MIGHT EVEN DECIDE NOT TO INCLUDE THE ‘EARTH CRESCENT AND WORDING’ ALTOGETHER, AND ALSO NOT INCLUDE THE ‘PROMETHEUS’ MAIN TITLE EITHER!? NOT SURE YET.

DESCRIBE THE WAY I’M GOING TO RE-EDIT THE ENGINEER SITTING IN SEAT/TAKING OFF WHEN I GET A CHANCE.

DISCARD THIS CGI’D SIDE-ON SHOT! - https://static.rogerebert.com/uploads/blog_post/primary_image/scanners/prometheus-alien-originsthe-skeleton-beneath-the-exoskeleton/primary_pspacejockey2-thumb-510x214-48822.jpg

LATEST IDEA TO GIVE A NEW, EXTENDED ‘CONCLUSION’ TO ‘PROMETHEUS’ FOR MYSELF IF A SEQUEL TO ‘ALIEN COVENANT’ NEVER GETS MADE! -

We see the usual ending where we hear Shaw’s voiceover say “FINAL REPORT OF THE VESSEL PROMETHEUS…THE SHIP AND HER ENTIRE CREW ARE GONE…IF YOU’RE RECEIVING THIS TRANSMISSION, MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO COME TO IT’S POINT OF ORIGIN…THERE’S ONLY DEATH HERE NOW…AND I’M LEAVING IT BEHIND…IT’S NEW YEARS DAY, THE YEAR OF OUR LORD, 2094…MY NAME IS ELIZABETH SHAW…LAST SURVIVOR OF THE PROMETHEUS…AND I’M STILL SEARCHING…” as we see the Juggernaut ship rise up through the clouds, then blast away…

…as we continue as normal, as we fade to black and then see the ‘Deacon’ alien burst through the chest of the dead Engineer…

…as it gets up and roars, and we fade to black again as the echoing roar fades away…

OR DO I DISCARD THE DEACON BABY ALTOGETHER?..AS IT SEEMS FAR TOO BLOODY BIG FOR THE BODY IT’S JUST COME OUT OF! - NOT SURE YET.

…and then we CUT to some of the ‘ALIEN COVENANT PROLOGUE: THE CROSSING’ short film directed by Luke Scott - http://cinemavine.com/alien-covenant-prologue/

(MAYBE something along these lines - …as we PERHAPS fade from the echoing blackness of the Deacon’s roar, to seeing the Juggernaut drifting (silently??) through space (like the tiny ship shot at the start of ALIEN COVENANT does)…and then hear SOME of David’s voiceover dialogue, and end with him saying “AND THEN I WAS ALONE AGAIN…I LEARNED OF THEIR WAYS, AND AWAITED OUR ARRIVAL…”, as we continue as normal, and the Juggernaut ship arrives at the Engineer homeworld, as David drops the ‘black goo’ bombs on the terrified inhabitants, saying “LOOK ON MY WORKS YE MIGHTY…AND DESPAIR!”…and then CUT to some kind of re-edited version of the ‘ADVENT’ short film where David sends a filmed message back to the Weyland-Yutani company about his creation of a ‘wolf’, and how this is going to change everything, and that his creatures will rule the galaxy…and then CUT to the brief alien shot in the AUDI mars rover advert…and then cut to the end credits.

OR SHOULD I CUT TO HEARING THE WEYLAND YUTANI PROTOCOL SEQUENCE INITIATED…COMMENCE TRANSMISSION MESSAGE AFTER THE SHOT OF THE JUGGERNAUT FLYING OFF? (OR AFTER THE DEACON’S ROAR IF I INCLUDE IT?), AND THEN CONTINUE ON WITH SOME KIND OF RE-EDIT OF ‘THE CROSSING’ AND ‘ADVENT’ FOOTAGE?? - PERHAPS EVEN STARTING WITH THE FIRST PART OF DAVID’S ‘ADVENT’ MESSAGE (FORMALLY REFERRING TO ‘ELIZABETH SHAW’ INITIALLY)…THEN CUT TO SOME OF ‘THE CROSSING’ FOOTAGE (WHERE HE’D THEN INFORMALLY JUST CALL HER ‘ELIZABETH’)…THEN CUT BACK TO THE REST OF THE WAY I’M RE-EDITING THE ‘ADVENT’ MESSAGE. (SHOULD I CUT TO A SHOT OF THE ALIEN AFTER DAVID SAY’S I FINALLY FOUND MY WOLF - SUCH AS FROM THE AUDI QUATTRO TIE-IN ADVERT PERHAPS?) AND SHOULD I THEN CUT TO DAVID SAYING THIS IS GOING TO CHANGE EVERYTHING, AND THEN CUT TO THE BRIEF CLOSE-UP OF HIS EYE FADING OUT TO THE WEYLAND YUTANI LOGO TO END THINGS AFTER THAT? OR SHOULD I THEN ADD MORE OF DAVID’S WORDS AFTER THAT, ENDING WITH MY CREATURES WILL RULE THIS GALAXY, AND THEN CUT TO THE BRIEF CLOSE-UP OF HIS EYE FADING OUT TO THE WEYLAND YUTANI LOGO TO END THINGS AFTER THAT?

This alternative ending clip (by ‘Tykjen’ over at reddit Fanedits) is something along the lines of what I’ve got in mind - https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/comments/109zzd4/prometheus_ultimate_alternative_ending/

NEW IDEA FOR MY ‘PROMETHEUS’ ENDING - …Juggernaut flies off as we hear Shaw’s voice-over message / continue as normal with baby ‘Deacon’ chestbursting out of dead Engineer, as it roars to blackness (do a re-edited version of this to remove shots I don’t like) / CUT to a re-edited version of ‘The Crossing’ up until the end of where David is alone with the Engineer ‘suits’ / CUT to the actual ‘Alien Covenant’ scenes of Juggernaut arriving at the Engineer’s homeworld and dropping black goo bombs on them, ending with David saying **" FINISH THIS

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“All hands were lost, but I escaped with Elizabeth…”

“…on one of their ships…I was badly injured on our mission…”

“…she put me back together…I never experienced such compassion…”

“…certainly not from mister Weyland…or from any human…”

…then we see David saying “Green to green, red to red…”

“…it’s meant to be simple” (David’s voice-over says this over a close-up of Shaw’s face which I don’t have a pic for)

“…I’m doing my best” (Shaw’s voice-over says this over a close-up of David’s neck being sorted)

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MISS OUT shot of David showing a drawing of Shaw (it’s crap compared to how good an artist he really is!) - http://cinemavine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/aien-covenant-prologue-11-768x318.png ,and instead CUT to Shaw turning her head on the hypersleep chamber -

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CUT to ‘Alien Covenant’ scene of Juggernaut arriving at the Engineer’s homeworld -

ADD MORE SHOTS AND DIALOGUE HERE (from pages 39 and 40 of cap-that site)

…as we end on a close-up of David looking down -

CUT to some kind of re-edit of the ‘Alien Covenant:Advent’ footage to finish things off FINISH THIS SOMETIME

AVATAR  (released 2009/directed by James Cameron)

Teaser Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM4yfTmmzXU  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

Theatrical Trailer - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS-6Do7yw4A

AVATAR: SPECIAL EDITION  (released 2010/directed by James Cameron)

Trailer 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPqkRDKfrbU  NOW GONE!  Will look for replacement soon.

Trailer 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLylzuf1MWA

Extended ‘Collector’s’ Edition DVD Trailer 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryTAXw-TmU4

Extended ‘Collector’s’ Edition DVD Trailer 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTtBXpw8db4

**Coming Soon…  **James Cameron’s sequel is currently in the early stages of development for release in 2014…

NOTE - Just in case anyone happens to stumble across this old ‘Trailers’ thread of mine sometime, I’ve just temporarily used this space to put the following edit ideas/shots on here to remind myself about them at some point! 😃 -

I’D LIKE TO START OFF MY ‘STAR TREK 2009’ EDIT SOMETHING LIKE THIS -

I always loved the epic music heard in the movie’s third trailer seen below (‘Freedom Fighters’ by Two Steps From Hell), and was really hoping that it would feature in the movie itself -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8YxTPVkeBE

…but of course, it DIDN’T end up in the movie. However, there’s a certain way I CAN incorporate it for myself - I’m going to use it as an introductory ‘overture’ over a receding starfield, in the same manner that was done for the beginning of ST:TMP, as seen here - NOTE - IS IT POSSIBLE FOR WHOLE EDIT TO STILL BE IN 5.1 SOUND IF I WERE TO INCLUDE A SOURCE FOR THIS TRACK, OR WOULD IT ALL NEED TO BE IN STEREO 2.0?? ASK ABOUT THIS, AS IF I CAN’T DO THIS ALL IN 5.1 SOUND, THEN I’D PROBABLY RE-EDIT THE START THIS WAY INSTEAD - PARAMOUNT/SPYGLASS ENTERTAINMENT/BAD ROBOT LOGOS/‘VULCAN’ PLANET SHOT/BABY SPOCK SCENE/KELVIN SHIP DESTRUCTION AND KIRK BABY TRANSITIONING TO ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE/(THEN EITHER CUT TO KLINGON PLANET AND ESCAPING NERO SAYING “THE WAIT IS OVER”…OR INSTEAD CUT TO’VULCAN’ CITY, THEN CUT TO AMANDA AND ADULT SPOCK LEAVING VULCAN SCENES, WHICH TRANSITIONS TO ‘IOWA’ WITH ADULT KIRK IN A BARFIGHT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEGEaFC4CR4

…except I’ll use the ‘Two Steps From Hell’ music to accompany the moving starfield for an alternate ‘ovature’ in this instance -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tupzf9whLoc

MY 2 favourite ‘Star Trek’ characters are KIRK and SPOCK, and my re-edit of this movie will definately reflect that using the footage I’m keeping, while retaining a ‘pacing’ which I’m content with…even if I consider them ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’ versions, unconnected to the ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ characters of the original TOS show!..so for my NEW opening of movie I’d CUT/OR ‘FADE’(?) to ‘Vulcan’ planet shot to initially establish setting -

CUT to deleted scene (with quietly serene music) of 2 Vulcan women pouring water over baby with it’s parents, which ends in cute pointy-eared baby shot fading to black -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaAusqTaqcA

BETTER QUALITY CLIP - https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3sbjp2

(and we get the familiar ‘Vazquez Rocks’ background to start things off as a bonus, which suits my TOS sensibilities just fine)

…and when the baby Spock close-up quietly ‘fades out’, then we immediately CUT to a ‘fade in’ of the Paramount/Spyglass Entertainment/Bad Robot logos, with quiet music that builds and builds - NOTE - ADD SHOT OF PARAMOUNT STARS BEGINNING TO SWOOP TOWARDS US HERE!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEua9NwL7Zc

TRANSITIONS to -

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HERE’S A COUPLE OF VIDS THAT I COULD EDIT ON ‘STREAMABLE’ PERHAPS -

A VIDEO SHOWING NARADA JUST AFTER IT APPEARS IN FRONT OF KELVIN SHIP, AND NERO KILLING KELVIN CAPTAIN - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzzC5ASyXBI

A VIDEO SHOWING DESTRUCTION OF KELVIN SHIP AND MAIN TITLE TRANSITIONING TO YOUNG KIRK IN CAR - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAf5qSwsZrM

TRANSITIONS TO KELVIN SHIP CONFRONTING NARADA SHIP, AS BABY KIRK IS BORN - ADD SHOTS HERE - THIS IS FINAL SHOT OF OVERALL SEQUENCE BELOW -

TRANSITIONS to main title which fades to black before theme music ends -

GET RID OF! (NO ‘KIDDIE’ KIRK AND SPOCK ANTICS WHATSOEVER, THANKS) - https://i2.wp.com/img.screencaps.us/200/9-star-trek/full/star-trek11-movie-screencaps.com-1503.jpg?ssl=1

NOTE - ADD ‘YOUNG SPOCK’ VIDEO THAT I’M DISCARDING TOO

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NOTE - if I just click ‘Copy image address’ DIRECTLY on one of the SMALL ‘screencaps’, then it will only end up SMALL like this once I ‘paste’ it! (might be useful to use in certain circumstances to show ideas)

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VIDEO OF AMANDA AND ADULT SPOCK - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxqi090Yfc

AND THIS VIDEO HAS ‘VULCAN’ PLANET AND CITY SHOT ETC. THAT I CAN EDIT IN ‘STREAMABLE’ CLIPS PERHAPS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJm2xgas8JQ

AND THIS VIDEO CONTINUES ON FROM THAT, WHICH INCLUDES ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ AND NARADA/SPOCK ARRIVING SHOTS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHpDD6MCrBM

TRANSITIONS to adult Kirk getting into a barfight and talk with Pike about his father -

NOTE - THIS TO BE SORTED OUT INTO RIGHT PLACE EVENTUALLY -

KIRK AND BONES HEAD UPWARDS IN SHUTTLE FROM BASE, AND WE TRANSITION TO SPACE WHERE THE WORDS THREE YEARS LATER APPEAR, AND THIS STATIONARY SHOT IS VERY QUIET AT THIS MOMENT -

CUT to NERO DELETED SCENE (DISCARD final unfinished explosion after onscreen wording to establish setting, and might DISCARD a shot or two of the multi-eyed alien being questioned too), which ends with Nero saying THE WAIT IS OVER! -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4jEhpesnx0

NOTE - SHOLULD I ALTERNATIVELY INSERT THIS DELETED NERO SCENE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE INSTEAD?? - WHICH WOULD SEEM LIKE MORE TIME HAS PASSED FOR NERO AND CREW TO REGAIN NARADA SHIP AND HANG ABOUT FOR ‘ELDERLY SPOCK’ FROM THE ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’…AND NERO’S CALCULATIONS ABOUT HAVING 'TIME-TRAVELLED BACKWARDS ARE WRONG ANYWAY, AS THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’ HE’S ENTERED (JUST AS ‘ELDERLY SPOCK’ HAS), FILLED WITH WHOLLY DIFFERENT, UNRELATED CHARACTERS TO THE ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ THAT HE (AND ‘ELDERLY SPOCK’) CAME FROM…AND THE ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ DOESN’T MATTER TOO MUCH, AND THE ‘SWIPING’ SHOT TO THE NARADA COULD JUST STAY AS IT IS - NOT SURE YET!

CUT to rest of space shot, as it swipes to the left to reveal the Nero’s Narada ship -

CUT to bridge of Narada, as Nero goes on to wait for Spock to come through (NOTE - do I DISCARD shot of Nero on table beside paper that Klingon threw up in air, OR do I KEEP it as a flashback? - is dialogue we hear over it, important to keep??) -

NOTE - If including a CD source for the ‘Freedom Fighters’ music ‘overture’ means that I can’t have the movie in 5.1 sound, then I’d probably do something like this for a ‘pure’ re-edit of the movie -

Paramount/Spyglass Entertainment/Bad Robot logos/TRANSITIONS to Kelvin ship encountering Narada ship, as baby Kirk is born/TRANSITIONS to ‘Star Trek’ main title/CUT to ‘Vulcan’ planet shot/CUT to 2 women pouring water over baby Spock, as shot ends on close-up with cute pointy ears…OR should I CUT to Amanda talking to adult Spock/Spock leaving scenes at this point, followed by adult Kirk barfight in IOWA???..OR should I CUT to NERO DELETED SCENE at this point, which ends in him saying “The wait is over!”?? - IS ALL THIS RIGHT?? IS SPOCK OLDER THAN KIRK IN PRIME TIMELINE?? THIS COULD MAKE IT SEEM LIKE AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE IF KIRK WAS BORN FIRST IN MY EDIT - OF COURSE, I COULD PUT BABY SPOCK SCENE BEFORE THE LOGOS AS PREVIOUSLY SUGGESTED, IF IT FLOWS BETTER. FINISH ALL THIS OFF PROPERLY.

a NEW OPENING clip that someone came up with - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sE8-pdwCvc

NOTE - IF I CAN’T GET 5.1 SOUND DUE TO USING CD SOUND FOR ‘OVERTURE’ IDEA AT BEGINNING, THEN I’D FORGET THAT NOTION, AND DEFINATELY BEGIN THE MOVIE LIKE THIS INSTEAD (AND DESCRIBE HOW I’M IMAGINING IT’S PREMISE AS HAVING ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ NERO AND ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ ELDERLY SPOCK UNKNOWINGLY ENTERING INTO A TOTALLY ‘ALTERNATE’ UNIVERSE, RATHER THAN ‘TIME-TRAVELLING BACKWARDS’ WITHIN THE ‘PRIME’ UNIVERSE ITSELF!) -

1. OPEN WITH QUICK ‘FADE IN’ TO (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) ‘VULCAN’ PLANET SHOT
2. CUT TO DELETED SCENE OF 2 WOMEN WITH (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) SPOCK BABY AND (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) PARENTS, WHICH ENDS WITH BABY SPOCK EARS FADING TO BLACK (THIS ‘SPOCK’ IS BORN IN AN ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’, AND IS NOT THE ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ SPOCK OF THE CLASSIC TOS SHOW WHO IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN ATTITUDE!) 😃
3. CUT TO BLACKNESS QUICKLY MOVING DOWNWARDS TO CLOUDS AND STARS COMING TOWARDS US AS PARAMOUNT/SPYGLASS ENTERTAINMENT/BAD ROBOT LOGOS APPEAR
4. TRANSITIONS TO (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) KELVIN SHIP AS NARADA SHIP (FROM THE ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’) ENTERS INTO THIS ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’, AND WE SEE DESTRUCTION OF KELVIN SHIP AS BABY KIRK IS BORN (THIS ‘KIRK’ IS BORN IN THIS SAME ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’ JUST AS BABY SPOCK WAS, AND IS NOT THE ‘PRIME UNIVERSE’ KIRK OF THE CLASSIC TOS SHOW WHO IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT IN ATTITUDE!) 😃 THE SEQUENCE ENDS WITH ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE FADING TO BLACK
5. CUT TO (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) ‘VULCAN’ CITY
6. CUT TO (‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’) AMANDA AND ADULT (‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’) SPOCK, AS HE LEAVES (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) VULCAN COUNCIL
7. TRANSITIONS TO (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) ‘IOWA’ AND ADULT (‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’) KIRK IN A BAR FIGHT, AS HE GOES ON TO JOIN (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) STARFLEET, AND WE EVENTUALLY TRANSITION TO SPACE AND THE WORDS ‘THREE YEARS LATER’
8. CUT TO DELETED SCENE OF (‘ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE’) KLINGON PRISON, AS A KLINGON INTERROGATOR (ALSO WRONGLY!) THINKS NERO HAS ‘TIME-TRAVELED FROM THE FUTURE’, WHEREAS NERO HAS ACTUALLY COME FROM ANOTHER UNIVERSE - THE ‘PRIME’ ONE. THE SCENE ENDS ON NERO SAYING “THE WAIT IS OVER!”
9. CUT TO ‘SIDE SWIPE’ IN SPACE AS NARADA APPEARS, AND TRANSITIONS TO NERO WATCHING (‘PRIME UNIVERSE’) SPOCK ENTERING THIS ‘ALTERNATE UNIVERSE’ IN THE SAME WAY HE DID PREVIOUSLY.

NOTE - CHECK THE FOOTAGE TO SEE THAT THE ‘CADETS’ SCENES OF KIRK AND BONES DON’T CONTRADICT THE ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ WORDING IN ANY WAY!

NOTE - SHOULD I CUT TO DELETED KLINGON PRISON PLANET AND NERO ESCAPING SCENES IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE??..OR INSTEAD CUT TO ‘VULCAN’ CITY AND AMANDA/ADULT SPOCK SCENES AT THAT POINT, KEEPING THE DELETED SCENE TO AFTER THE ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ MOMENT SHOWN FURTHER DOWN?? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4jEhpesnx0 - NOT SURE YET.

1. ‘VULCAN’ PLANET APPEARS TO ESTABLISH SETTING - https://streamable.com/2v5vf

ALTERNATIVE ‘VULCAN’ PLANET CLIP WITH ‘GUITAR’ NOTES AT START - https://streamable.com/hvoj4

2. CUT TO BABY SPOCK AND PARENTS, AS SHOT FADES TO BLACK - https://streamable.com/hnjwb

3. CUT TO BLACK MOVING DOWN TO CLOUDS AS PARAMOUNT/SPYGLASS ENTERTAINMENT/BAD ROBOT LOGOS APPEAR - https://streamable.com/7a13q

4.

5. CONTINUES WITH KELVIN SHIP AND NARADA SHIP FACING OFF, AS KELVIN’S CAPTAIN GOES TO MEET NERO - https://streamable.com/takmi

6. CONTINUES WITH NERO KILLING KELVIN’S CAPTAIN, AS BABY KIRK IS BORN, AND ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE APPEARS AND FADES TO BLACK - https://streamable.com/6p4s3

7. CUT TO VULCAN CITY - https://streamable.com/uglx5

8. CUT TO AMANDA AND ADULT SPOCK/SAREK AND ADULT SPOCK/‘IOWA’ BARFIGHT WITH ADULT KIRK AND PIKE - https://streamable.com/y3c3s

9. CONTINUES WITH KIRK ON BIKE AS HE MEETS MCCOY ON SHUTTLE/TRANSITIONS TO SPACE AND ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ WORDING - https://streamable.com/zej5h

10. CUT TO DELETED SCENE OF NERO BREAKING OUT OF KLINGON PRISON - https://streamable.com/7nmjq (NOTE - STILL TO TRIM A COUPLE OF BITS ON THIS!)

11. CUT TO SPACE AGAIN, AS WE ‘SWIPE’ LEFT TO SEE THE NERO’S NARADA SHIP APPEAR, AS HE WATCHES ‘ELDERLY SPOCK’ APPEAR IN HIS JELLYFISH SHIP (NOTE - INITIALLY HE HAS NO EAR AS IT SUGGESTS HE’S THINKING BACK TO WHEN HE WAS TORTURED IN KLINGON PRISON - https://streamable.com/86eap

NOTE - I’M STILL THINKING ABOUT THIS POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE RE-STRUCTURE TOO! - 1. / 2. / 3. / 4. / 5. / 6. AS ABOVE, BUT MIGHT INSTEAD THEN CUT FROM 6. (‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE) DIRECTLY TO 10. (DELETED SCENE OF NERO BREAKING OUT OF KLINGON PRISON) INSTEAD! AND THEN I’D CUT FROM CLOSE-UP OF NERO SAYING “THE WAIT IS OVER!” DIRECTLY TO 7. (VULCAN CITY), FOLLOWED BY 8. AND 9. (WHICH ENDS WITH ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ WORDING), AND CONTINUE ON WITH 11. (‘SWIPES’ LEFT TO NERO’S NARADA SHIP AS ‘ELDERLY SPOCK’ APPEARS IN HIS JELLYFISH SHIP)

NOTE - I REALLY LIKE PUTTING VULCAN CITY SHOT AFTER ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE, SO IF I DECIDE AGAINST PUTTING DELETED SCENE OF NERO BREAKING OUT OF KLINGON PRISON IMMEDIATELY AFTER ‘STAR TREK’ MAIN TITLE INSTEAD, THEN I COULD ALTERNATIVELY SLOT IT IN-BETWEEN CLOSE-UP OF KIRK LOOKING UP AT ENTERPRISE BEING BUILT…AND KIRK RIDING HIS BIKE TOWARDS SHUTTLE AND PIKE. THIS WOULD MEAN THAT I WOULDN’T NEED TO CUT SPACE SHOT WITH ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ WORDING AT ALL - ANOTHER THING, I MIGHT DECIDE TO DO AWAY WITH ‘THREE YEARS LATER’ WORDING ALTOGETHER AS THE MUSIC JUST ENDS BEFORE THE WORDING APPEARS…SO I COULD ACTUALLY CUT TO THE ‘SWIPE’ TO THE LEFT TOWARDS THE NARADA SHIP INSTEAD AT THIS POINT SO THAT WE DON’T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW LONG NERO WAS HANGING AROUND FOR ‘SPOCK’ TO APPEAR!

Okay, this is now the *permanently* mucked-up thread, as I've decided to start afresh!  :)

Here is the link to what I originally intended to start here, before things went belly-up with my first post!  It's something I've been wanting to get around to adding here for a long time now, and I've finally gotten around to starting it off now.  Properly, this time....

I hope you'll find it an enterting movie-related resource, and there should be some interesting stuff included eventually.  Pop along every-now-and-then, and wallow in some nostalgia along the way -  http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Imps-MOVIE-TRAILER-SHOWCASE-PAST-PRESENT-AND-COMING-SOON/post/429260/#TopicPost429260