So that clarifies Padme's fate come the end of ROTS:R then. :)
The wording in the PT:R Facts section of the wordpress link kinda made it look like it could have gone either way, so nice to get that confirmed.
No idea which way he's going with that, but I'm hopeful as I say.
Edit: apologies Hal 9000, I wasn't concentrating properly, and just realised that the link I referred you to wasn't actually to do with Leia's 'memories' of her mother, after all. So adywan *may well be* intending to 'save' Padme after all using the same technique.
Hal 9000 - in case adywan is too busy to get back to you on this, or doesn't want to cover it in this thread, let me refer you to a much more recent update to do with that issue near the bottom of this link - http://swrevisited.wordpress.com/rotjr-facts/
(for the record, I'm happy with this decision and am hoping it means he won't be going down the 'The Other Boleyn Girl' footage route. It was a clever enough idea as a way to make sense of Leia's ROTJ dialogue, but I'm hoping this means he'll be sticking with actual ROTS footage one way or another. But that's all for another day)
jedimasterobiwan - like the mountainous backdrops and skies throughout the Hoth battle, the snowplains are inconsistent during many shots as well - sometimes things look smooth, while other times the snow is rougher-looking in places. While Ronster's still mock-up looked good, I'm not sure if it's possible to do the likes of that on moving shots.
No worries here however, as I'd never have imagined the amount of work that adywan would end up doing already to make the Hoth surroundings feel more consistent. A few differing snow bumps here and there are to be expected, considering how mis-matched a lot of the original shots are.
Thanks for those answers adywan. The new overall sound mix is going to be one of the things I'm looking forward to most in this edit.
Have a MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!
jedimasterobiwan said:
where's the video or is it not up yet?
We just had the Christmas clip - these things aren't handed out like sweets, as adywan doesn't want to reveal all the footage/surprises before the edit comes out.
Maaaaybe Santa will organise some kind of additional trailer in the New Year *if* we're all good, but don't bank on it.
adywan said:
It's a screengrab taken from the finished video
Wow, another great piece of the 'ESB:R' jigsaw is revealed. And what a triumph! I don't know how many man-hours it took to build and film your 'Dagobah' miniature adywan, but it was well worth it, as it looks fabulous in that shot. It's hard to believe that it was originally just a 6ft x 6ft diorama -
Between the lighting and 'misting' effects, it looks like you actually built the whole set full-scale to film on! :)
I wondered where you'd be positioning the knobby white spider, and it looks wonderful at this spot. Thanks for this latest reveal.
Well it's that time of year again, so I'd just like to wish adywan and all the other denizens of OT.com a very HAPPY CHRISTMAS!
* blows big raspberry at Worf *
HigHurtenflurst said:
Those sound like SUGGESTIONS!!! etc., etc.
Move along, HH - I was merely making 'observations'. Don't shoot me. ;)
At the risk of offending Mr. Ghostface, I'd just like to say thanks for that latest Christmas clip adywan....and that it's AWESOME-looking work once again! :)
While there's a LOT more as-yet-unseen moments from the overall 'Hoth Battle' that I'm interested to see what you'll do with...there's certainly an incredible amount of adjustments in just this short 1 min. 12 secs. portion of it, alone.
For the benefit of everyone else here that may miss one or two, here's a rundown -
1. Colour-correction throughout - obviously. And it's so nice to see white snow at this time of the year, rather than blue-tinged snow. And faces that are now flesh-coloured, rather than pink...
2. The rebel turret that gets blown up at the beginning doesn't have a huge black scorchmark on it anymore *before* it gets hit by a laserbolt. (this isn't noticeable in the clip unless you're able to freeze the very first frame at just the right moment, by the way)
3. All the laserbolts have been re-done throughout. (and there were a LOT of them to do)
4. The rebel turret gun recoils as it fires now.
5. The snowspeeder that flies over the rebel trench as there's an explosion, is now bigger, to improve the scaling of it. (this is a nice little improvement, and an issue I don't recall ever being brought up by anyone previously)
6. Correct detailing on the inside of the AT-AT's right leg now, in the close-up. And the 'jagged', missing bit is fixed now too.
7. The AT-ST walker in the distance has been redone and slightly re-positioned. (and it's movement ties-in perfectly when taken into conjunction with the other new AT-ST shots, believe me)
8. The new view through the AT-AT window is full of additional interest now - a rebel trench has been added with smoking turrets, including another which gets blown up...and has rebel laserbolts coming towards the AT-AT's direction...along with a newly-angled Power Generator...as well as a new, mountainous backdrop...and new sky.
(Question for adywan - the original AT-AT laserbolts in this shot are seen to fire from *below* the window in a 'one-two' movement - presumably from the 2 big guns below the window. But in your new version the laserbolts are fired in 'unison' from either side of the window instead - Am I right in guessing that this is a deliberate change to the AT-AT firing at this point using it's smaller guns on either side of it's 'head'...and that the big guns will be used for the final big explosion? Or have I got this all wrong?)
9. A speeder 'flap' has been added to the close-up of Rogue 2's craft now, which matches the opening and closing movements of the miniature shots before and after.
10. One of Rogue 2's chest buttons is blue throughout now, not green.
11. Instead of Luke and Rogue 2's speeders approaching only 2 AT-ATs in the distance, there are *more* now...including accompanying AT-ST walkers. (and they have turned out marvellously in these shots. A real highlight of the clip for me)
12. One of Luke's speeder close-ups has an added 'flap' now too.
13. A couple of Luke's chest buttons are blue throughout now, *not* changing from black to green then white as before.
14. Control panel graphics added to speeder interiors now. (which really brings the cockpit to life now, and look great when they're knocked out)
15. More colour added to Rogue 2's speeder exploding.
16. AT-AT laserbolts don't show through parts of speeder windscreen frame now.
17. Some additional blue electrical sparking inside Luke's speeder cockpit now.
18. New mountainous backdrop added as Luke is about to crash.
19. Additional AT-AT laserbolts firing as Luke is about to crash.
20. Luke's speeder window cracks as he crashes now, to tie-in with shots that come afterwards.
21. Dark grey markings and black scorchmarks added to rear of Luke's speeder now as he opens it's cockpit, to match the markings on the miniature. (excellent-looking work here)
22. Redone speeder flying in distance now, at this point.
23. New mountainous backdrop added as AT-AT legs approach.
24. New mountainous backdrop added as AT-AT legs get nearer.
25. Pink tinge on AT-AT Legs has been removed, so they remain grey.
26. Dark grey markings and black scorchmarks added seamlessly to rear of Luke's speeder once again.
27. Redone speeder flying in distance when Luke reaches into back of his cockpit.
28. Larger-scaled AT-AT foot crushes Luke's speeder now.
29. New mountainous backdrop added again at this point. (all these added backdrops are helping to give the impression that the battle is occurring in one 'whole' environment now, which is a great achievement!)
Okay then, if that's not an AWESOME amount of thoughtful enhancements for such a small portion of the overall battle, rather than 'tinkering'...then I don't know what the hell is!
Exceptional work...and imagine what the entire sequence will look like eventually, especially once the re-built audio side of things is completed too. :)
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Finally, I don't know if this is your absolute final version of this portion or not adywan, but since I did notice a couple of *teensy* little things along the way that caught my eye...I know you'd think it remiss of me not to bring them up also. ;)
At the 0:34 mark just as Rogue 2 yells in close-up as he's hit - his chest button is still green at this point, not blue. It's fleeting, but it's there.
Also, should there be a hint of a crack added to the left side window of Luke's speeder too? It just seems that there might be some kind of damage on that one also, due to the impact. But no biggie once again.
At the 1:08 mark just as Luke reaches into the back of the speeder before the AT-AT foot stomps down...it looks as if there was an attempt made in the original to add the dark grey markings to the rear of the speeder at this point. I see that you've not done anything to this shot in your clip, apart from the redone speeder that flies past - but the 'white' rear section of the speeder on the left-hand of this shot looks kinda jarring after the sterling work you did on the markings in the other shots. It wouldn't stick out so much if it was even just darkened the same as the top portions have been in this shot. Just a thought.
Can't say Smithers, as I'm only getting the dreaded small 'x' instead of the image. Are others actually seeing the pic.?
TV's Frink said:
Well now I have a great idea for ANR and TRSB.
:)
Agreed. Well done Akratus!
The Dagobah miniature turned out great adywan. We all thank Mrs. wan for her continued patience with you on all this...
canofhumdingers said:
This thread is interesting in that the Godzilla message board I frequent just went through this SAME experience of the Godzilla (2014) 2d vs 3d bluray differences with people being very upset that the 2d version was noticeably darker.
But what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that 3d copies are almost ALWAYS a bit brighter in order to compensate for the fact that 3d glasses have a slight tint to them. You can't compare a raw 3d screenshot to a 2d screenshot. To make the comparison fair, you'd need to send the 3d shot through a filter equivalent to viewing it through the 3d glasses. And I'd be willing to bet that if you do that, they will look awfully similar.
Interesting. I can accept this might account for differing 'brightness' levels, but the whole 'greenish' tint thing is a completely different issue. Drives me nuts when I see something re-coloured for the worse - It's happened with major movies by George Lucas, Ridley Scott, and Peter Jackson especially. And now Peter Gunn it seems.
And thanks for those additional screengrabs of your's Ryan. They show a noticeable difference.
stretch009 said:
For those that don't already know, the 2D blu-ray has a green tint throughout the movie. The 3D/2D version DOES NOT have this tint. The 3D/2D apparently has the theatrical color-timing.
Source: KK650's thread over at the paradox site and I've watched sample clips of each.
and this...
stretch009 said:
The 3D version comes with 2D and 3D on the same disc. Both of them don't have the green tint. So it's all good, get the 3D set.
and this...
stretch009 said:
The 2D copy that comes with the 3D set, which you can currently use, DOESN'T have the green tint. The 2D-only version has green tint.
Excuse my confusion guys.
doubleofive, I know that you're from the good 'ol U.S. of A., and your screengrabs confirm there's a distinctly greenish re-tint on the 2D disc that comes with your 3D Blu-ray combo set (region A/1). Gah, and the 'lens flare' difference is certainly curious too...
However...your comparison shots definately seem to contradict stretch009's comments, which I've shown above.
stretch009, are you referring to the region A/1 combo set too?...as doubleofive's screengrabs prove different to what you've said, if so.
And I can't seem to access tehparadox to check out KK650's comments as the site seems to be offline now - however the 'Rocket Racoon' comparison shot that Ryan McAvoy showed on the previous page definitely seems to show that the standalone 2D Blu-ray disc (region B/2) has this awful re-tint too. But I'm not sure which region KK650's original shot was from.
I'm from the U.K., and was planning to get the 3D Blu-ray combo set (region B/2) shortly...but I'd find this distinctly greenish re-tint almost unwatchable, knowing that some discs have the more natural, Theatrical colouration to them. So until this is clarified, I'll just hold off...as I'd rather just get the DVD (region 2) if ALL the 2D Blu-ray discs (region B/2) turn out to have this green crap going on. :(
(and I just hope the DVD has the Theatrical hue, rather than the tint...)
DuracellEnergizer said:
So I take it Harmy's large image in the posts above is only refusing to show up for me? That's incredibly odd ...
Nope. They aren't showing up for me either, just so you know.
So, Bob Orci *won't* be directing the next Trek movie after all - http://www.variety.com/2014/film/news/Roberto-orci-exits-star-trek-3-1201372245/
Leonardo said:
I would guess because it was such a poor and blatant attempt at riling up people... Did he really think someone would take him seriously?
If so, making his bizarre statement in shouty all-caps put paid to that. :)
TV's Frink said:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-BEST-STAR-WARS-MOVIES/topic/17293/
What is that I don't even.
I love how that nonsense about the prequels was *immediately* locked, lol.
(but if he was actually referring to the original 3 OT releases, then I agree)
Fanedit.info has re-appeared again. :)
I'm so confused...
On the other hand, Fanedit.info has surfaced once again. :)
stretch009 said:
A little off-topic: So what's the latest on fanedit.info? I was happy to see it was back up yesterday and now it's back down with .org.
And now it's back up again. :)
Sojourn, I reckon it's meant to be AID-ee-wan, considering his name is Adrian...but he'll always be ADD-ee-wan to me.
Edit: Jango beat me to it.
And alas, Fanedit.info has gone into suspension yet again, after a re-appearance yesterday. :(
TV's Frink said:
Why should I care about this?
Yes, it's an unusual 1st post for sure...