TV's Frink said:
Well now I have a great idea for ANR and TRSB.
:)
Agreed. Well done Akratus!
The Dagobah miniature turned out great adywan. We all thank Mrs. wan for her continued patience with you on all this...
canofhumdingers said:
This thread is interesting in that the Godzilla message board I frequent just went through this SAME experience of the Godzilla (2014) 2d vs 3d bluray differences with people being very upset that the 2d version was noticeably darker.
But what a lot of people don't seem to realize is that 3d copies are almost ALWAYS a bit brighter in order to compensate for the fact that 3d glasses have a slight tint to them. You can't compare a raw 3d screenshot to a 2d screenshot. To make the comparison fair, you'd need to send the 3d shot through a filter equivalent to viewing it through the 3d glasses. And I'd be willing to bet that if you do that, they will look awfully similar.
Interesting. I can accept this might account for differing 'brightness' levels, but the whole 'greenish' tint thing is a completely different issue. Drives me nuts when I see something re-coloured for the worse - It's happened with major movies by George Lucas, Ridley Scott, and Peter Jackson especially. And now Peter Gunn it seems.
And thanks for those additional screengrabs of your's Ryan. They show a noticeable difference.
stretch009 said:
For those that don't already know, the 2D blu-ray has a green tint throughout the movie. The 3D/2D version DOES NOT have this tint. The 3D/2D apparently has the theatrical color-timing.
Source: KK650's thread over at the paradox site and I've watched sample clips of each.
and this...
stretch009 said:
The 3D version comes with 2D and 3D on the same disc. Both of them don't have the green tint. So it's all good, get the 3D set.
and this...
stretch009 said:
The 2D copy that comes with the 3D set, which you can currently use, DOESN'T have the green tint. The 2D-only version has green tint.
Excuse my confusion guys.
doubleofive, I know that you're from the good 'ol U.S. of A., and your screengrabs confirm there's a distinctly greenish re-tint on the 2D disc that comes with your 3D Blu-ray combo set (region A/1). Gah, and the 'lens flare' difference is certainly curious too...
However...your comparison shots definately seem to contradict stretch009's comments, which I've shown above.
stretch009, are you referring to the region A/1 combo set too?...as doubleofive's screengrabs prove different to what you've said, if so.
And I can't seem to access tehparadox to check out KK650's comments as the site seems to be offline now - however the 'Rocket Racoon' comparison shot that Ryan McAvoy showed on the previous page definitely seems to show that the standalone 2D Blu-ray disc (region B/2) has this awful re-tint too. But I'm not sure which region KK650's original shot was from.
I'm from the U.K., and was planning to get the 3D Blu-ray combo set (region B/2) shortly...but I'd find this distinctly greenish re-tint almost unwatchable, knowing that some discs have the more natural, Theatrical colouration to them. So until this is clarified, I'll just hold off...as I'd rather just get the DVD (region 2) if ALL the 2D Blu-ray discs (region B/2) turn out to have this green crap going on. :(
(and I just hope the DVD has the Theatrical hue, rather than the tint...)
DuracellEnergizer said:
So I take it Harmy's large image in the posts above is only refusing to show up for me? That's incredibly odd ...
Nope. They aren't showing up for me either, just so you know.
So, Bob Orci *won't* be directing the next Trek movie after all - http://www.variety.com/2014/film/news/Roberto-orci-exits-star-trek-3-1201372245/
Leonardo said:
I would guess because it was such a poor and blatant attempt at riling up people... Did he really think someone would take him seriously?
If so, making his bizarre statement in shouty all-caps put paid to that. :)
TV's Frink said:
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-BEST-STAR-WARS-MOVIES/topic/17293/
What is that I don't even.
I love how that nonsense about the prequels was *immediately* locked, lol.
(but if he was actually referring to the original 3 OT releases, then I agree)
Fanedit.info has re-appeared again. :)
I'm so confused...
On the other hand, Fanedit.info has surfaced once again. :)
stretch009 said:
A little off-topic: So what's the latest on fanedit.info? I was happy to see it was back up yesterday and now it's back down with .org.
And now it's back up again. :)
Sojourn, I reckon it's meant to be AID-ee-wan, considering his name is Adrian...but he'll always be ADD-ee-wan to me.
Edit: Jango beat me to it.
And alas, Fanedit.info has gone into suspension yet again, after a re-appearance yesterday. :(
TV's Frink said:
Why should I care about this?
Yes, it's an unusual 1st post for sure...
Uh oh, Fanedit.info seems to have been suspended again, after coming back yesterday...
Erikstormtrooper said:
There's some activity on Reddit about someone trying to re-create this edit:
http://np.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/2nxx20/til_that_topher_grace_of_that_70s_show_edited_all/cmi5wse?context=10000?
They combined "Star Wars a Last Hope" and "Turn to the Dark Side" into one movie. Anyone seen either of these? Is this worth checking out?
Erikstormtrooper, here's some further info. related to that for you and others to check out if you missed it previously - http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Star-Wars-Turn-To-The-Dark-Side-Episode-31/topic/16623/
(*Note to self* - I really must check out ALL of that 'Star Wars: A Last Hope' edit at some point)
Rogue-theX said:
^ But what about fanedit.org? :-(
Seems it's merely 'server maintenance' currently going on. Let's hope so anyway...
DrCrowTStarwars said:
I didn't see any lens flare in the trailer for the new Star Wars movie so maybe JJ is over this kick of simulating a broken camera and making it impossible to see what is happening in the movie.
There's some during both the X-wing and Falcon shots, but they are quite effective and restrained. We'll probably see a few more of that kind of thing during other effects shots especially...and as long as we don't get the kind of over-powering type that we saw in his Trek movies, then I'll be more than happy with those kind of subtle ones.
And it's back again today! :)
Possessed said:
Doesn't seem like there is a way to get these anymore. Info is down, and I had the links saved but there are several articles missing on the usenet. What a shame, should have never deleted them.
Fanedit.info seems to be back up again now. :)
(And as someone over on fanedit.org suggested, some kind of donation to those guys now and then would be helpful to keep that resource going)
Edit: TV's Frink just beat me to it.
emanswfan said:
Because those fan reactions were just too crazy... (NSFW)
Just sublime... :)
Thanks for sticking up that last shot of the Stormtroopers Ryan, as I didn't have time to grab it the other day when I mentioned it.
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As far as the actual teaser itself, turned out I was pretty happy with it myself overall. It was much shorter, and less revealing than a lot of the first teasers/trailers for the previous chapters, that's for sure...and here's a good round-up of all the others in the saga for comparison - http://toybox.io9.com/looking-back-at-the-history-of-star-wars-teaser-trailer-1664150160/+charliejane
I had an idea that J.J.'s filming style was going to give this sequel a distinctly different 'look' to previous instalments, and I'm perfectly okay with that. Cinematography and SFX techniques have evolved since the days of the Original Trilogy after all, and I'm just hoping we get something that approaches the overall fun and adventure of those particular chapters this time around...even if there's some 'shakey cam', dubious 'colour-grading', or plenty of 'lens flares' going on.
A different kind of 'cinematic' look for a 'Star Wars' movie might be quite refreshing at this point, I reckon...and with all the other upcoming movies planned with different directors in the coming years, things are bound to have a bit of a 'shock-of-the-new' vibe for those of us used to the look of the originals. So I'll welcome the change if that's what's coming...and hope that they'll turn out to be enjoyable.
Judging by the teaser itself, some of the effects shots are certainly going to have a 'faster, more intense' feel to them in this latest one - the dizzying Falcon shots alone seem to bear that out, and along with the brief X-wing shots, they looked fabulous as far as I'm concerned. And I thought the 'lens flares' in both the Falcon and X-wing shots were suitably subtle in those effects shots. I'm hoping J.J. keeps things as restrained throughout. Oh, and I'm delighted that the original TIE fighter design is making an appearance too! It was always one of my favourite ship designs from the OT, and I didn't necessarily expect to see any of them at this future point in the saga.
We're heading into a whole new era of 'Star Wars'-related movies now, starting with this one...and I have a feeling that J.J. and his effects team are going to set quite a high bar for the look of things with this episode to kick things off. I liked the look of the Stormtrooper shots for sure, and 'roller'-droid (or 'Ball-E' as walking_carpet coined it!) is just the latest in a long line of 'comedic' droids with a 'personality' - such as the startled 'mouse droid' that scurries away on the Deathstar, for instance. But while it's verging on the 'overly cute', I just hope it's antics are 'child-like' rather than 'childish', if it gets a lot of screentime... And I really liked the unusual look of Daisy Ridley's 'lollypop'-speeder too - it had a kinda Original Trilogy vibe to it's design I thought. As far as the new-fangled 'sword'-saber goes...both my kids loved the look of it, so I'm happy with their verdict. I'm okay with it myself, although I remember thinking at the time that I would have preferred the 'guard glows' to have ignited at the exact same time as the main blade glow - but that's just a minor thing on my part, and no big deal.
However, I've no doubt the next, more revealing trailer will have them absolutely straining at the leash to go see this come next Christmas. And that's how it should be, where this franchise is concerned...and things can surely only improve on the last trilogy we ended up with. I hope J.J.'s entry is a good 'un, so that anyone who is seeing a 'Star Wars' movie for the first time will be keen to check out the earlier onscreen adventures of Luke and Co. too - even if it's a pity they are only likely to see the latest 'Special Editions' of those as things stand...
Of course, I'd assumed that we'd be getting some brief headshots of some of the original characters such as Luke, Leia, Han, Chewie, C3PO, and R2...but how wrong I was. J.J. completely blind-sided me on that score, as I'd hoped to see some footage of how they appeared onscreen in this. So as he's likely keeping them for the next trailer (which is bound to make everyone go even more nuts over this movie), I'd have to risk seeing a lot more footage/potential spoilers if I want to see how they look, dammit. As far as the person in the black robes with the new lightsaber goes, that 'leaked' image which .Mac. linked to about a month ago on page 42, may indeed turn out to be legit after all. The pic certainly seems to match what we see in the teaser, and I quite like the look of this character if that's the case. Here's the link again for any of you that may have forgotten what it looked like. It's a little indistinct, but you'll get the idea - http://www.starwarsunderworld.com/2014/10/rumor-star-wars-episode-vii-villain.html
Anyway, the Force has indeed awakened with this early preview as far as I'm concerned. The only thing I kinda missed were the '20th Century Fox' logo/'Lucasfilm Ltd.' logo/and 'A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...' text appearing beforehand, this time around...but if the worst comes to the worst, and I feel this movie ends up requiring a re-edit someday...then I guess I can always include them anyway for continuity's sake, and dispose of any 'Disney/Bad Robot' logo nonsense while I'm at it...
But I hope it doesn't come to that, and that J.J. knocks this outta the park for us all. :)
I'm currently wondering if Fanedit.info will return anytime soon...as the site's been suspended today it seems, dammit! :(
walking_carpet said:
im not good at spotting the whole teal/orange thing but this trailer it looks like the overall color is slightly dialed back. I think the nighttime forest scene in the teaser was fine, and we dont know if the blue light with the stormtroopers was because it just had interior light thats blue.
walking_carpet, I just happened to comment on this over on Fanedit.org in response to emanswfan's recolouration of the teaser, but I'll repeat it here also -
The other day I actually paused the teaser at the very last moment of the shot showing the back of the legs of the new Stormtroopers as they are about to disembark down the ramp - the reason?...I was curious to see if it was possible to get a glimpse in that shot of what their 'footwear' looked like in any way, as it changed considerably between the Original Trilogy versions and the Prequel versions (or the other way round to be technically correct). No luck however, as the shot just cuts off as it pans down the back of their legs towards their heels.
However, while I originally thought those Stormtrooper shots had been given a distinctly blueish/teal colour-grading overall, it actually turns out that it indeed seems that it's just the colour of the lighting inside the transport they're waiting in that is reflecting the hue on their armour...as the precise moment I paused the end of the shot shows the legs of the Stormtroopers turning to gleaming white after all at that point, as the ramp door opens wider. It's just that the shot ends abruptly at this point, too quickly for our eyes to catch this last frame. So I'm satisfied that the blueish/teal look of those particular shots is just due to the colour of the lighting reflecting off their armour after all, rather than due to deliberate colour-meddling.
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I'm pretty pleased with the teaser overall, and I'll go into more detail why later on today sometime.
SilverWook said:
Not sure if real...
Hmmm, female Imperial Officer (?) without a cap. Interesting, if legit.
Lens flare ahoy, but I guess he can't help it.
Y'know, as much as I hope I can avoid most of the merchandise reveals/spoilers before J.J.'s movie reaches cinemas next year, I'm sure looking forward to finally getting a glimpse at this initial teaser.
Despite the odd behind-the-scenes photo or two during production, I still find the notion of the original cast being re-united onscreen after all these years, kinda hard to believe. But when this teaser hits, I know it will suddenly become very real for me at last...and all these questions will be answered -
What will the tone of the teaser be like...?
How will the original cast look in it...?
Will it have a very leisurely pacing, or will it have heaps of quick cuts to scrutinise...?
Am I going to get used to the Millennium Falcon's new radar dish...?
Will I get teary-eyed watching all this unfold as some new John Williams music plays out...?
Of course, the excellent Episode I teaser proved that it was no true indicator of how the actual movie will turn out...but I'm gonna remain cautiously optimistic. Either way, it's good to know that the 'Star Wars' franchise is going to be on a lot of people's radar once again, when this footage is released.
Not long now. Anticipation building... :)