ImperialFighter

doubleofive said:

Windows7Guy100 said:

doubleofive said:

Windows7Guy100 said:

When you do ROTJ, will you be doing anything about Boba Fett’s horrible death scene?

He sure is.

<insert laughter here>

What’s so funny?

He has something special planned.

…or he could indeed just be inserting a ‘canned laughter’ track over the scene when Boba’s sent flying by Han, and into the Sarlacc.

marioxb said:

It would be interesting if there was one scene with alien subtitles. I think Empire is the only SW without them.

You’ve now got me wondering what ‘Bossk’ said to ‘Admiral Piett’ in the bounty hunter scene… Was it something rude?

(Heh, Bingo posted that as I was typing)

SilverWook said:

The same prop or the same character?

That red and white droid sure seems to get around - Not only does it feature in the ‘Rogue One’ teaser, but I’ve just noticed that’s it’s also in the background of ‘The Force Awakens’ a couple of times too…when Finn arrives at the rebel base, and meets up with Poe again.

(however, the jury’s still out on whether it’s our old friend ‘R5-X2’ from ‘The Phantom Menace’ Jabba scene, or not)

Both looking fabulous, and that’s without the lighting etc. yet!

Very nice job with that teaser emanswfan. 😃

I’d have preferred to see the ‘rainbow’ LUCASFILM logo used, along with the ‘STAR WARS’ logo at the end instead, but I liked this so much I added it to the ‘Fanmade trailers’ section over at Fanedit(.)org for them to see.

SilverWook said:

The same prop or the same character?

It might indeed just be a random, leftover prop from TPM. But either way, if it just remains an un-named background droid in ‘Rogue One’, I guess we can choose to believe it’s the same one if we wish.

Anyway, here’s the actual link I came across which brought it to my attention - jalopnik.com/this-is-the-first-positive-identification-of-a-known-dr-1771219814

I was interested to find out that the red and white droid (‘R5-X2’) seen in the ‘Rogue One’ trailer is supposed to be the one seen beside Jabba when he introduced the podrace in ‘TPM’.

Just sayin’.

I wonder if there will be viewers who have only seen the home versions of the ‘Special Editions’ from 2004 onwards who will decide to check these movies out on the big screen for the first time? - if so, not only are they gonna wonder who the ‘old dude forceghost’ is at the end of 1997’s ROTJ:SE…but they’re gonna get a bit of a shock when they see how Jabba originally looked!

DominicCobb said:

I really have very small interest in TFA fan edits because I know they’ll mostly just cut out stuff I love, but there are some small quibblies that I’ll probably have to sort out for myself at some point.

For instance, and it’s strange no one’s mentioned this, but the Kylo speaks to Vader scene doesn’t really work. I mean, as a scene, by itself, it totally works. But it’s placement within the film just seems… random? It’s right in the middle of the sequence of the heroes at Maz’s castle, but it’s only about a minute long and doesn’t really have anything to do with that. So just a very short and unrelated detour, which sort of ruins the power of the scene a bit.

So I see two options to fix.
A) Make the scene more relevant to Kylo’s storyline. Solution: move the scene right after Snoke’s “We shall see.”
or B) Make the scene more relevant to the heroes storyline. Solution: move the scene right after Han and Leia talk about Kylo.

This sounds like a very good point indeed, considering that I found that substantially re-arranging the position of certain scenes in the prequels for my own cut-lists made them much more impactful for me. I’m definately gonna have a look at this suggestion of yours when I get around to pinning down my own TFA alterations. It’s a great scene, but I agree it’s placement might be more effective if used elsewhere.

ZkinandBonez said:

There’s been some discussion as to where General Dodonna is in RO, and apparently he might be in the trailer standing in the dark behind Mon Mothma.
(I’d be surprised if the guy in the picture below is not supposed to be Dodonna, he’s a dead ringer for Alex McCrindle.)

Thankyou! I didn’t actually spot that guy in the backround during that Mon Mothma shot. I hope you’re right, as I really wanted his character to be involved in this thing in some way.

TV’s Frink said:

So report the mods then.

Heh, thanks for that latest LOL!

You seem to be getting a bit of negativity from a few here TV’s Frink, and I can only guess that the majority of them have been on the wrong end of your funny bone in the past. As far as I’m concerned, long may your funny bone continue when it’s required…as we need all the humour we can get around here at times.

As far as the topic’s original question goes, I’ve been tweaking my own intended cut-list for AOTC recently, and one of the worst aspects of that movie for me was definately the unconvincing moments/dialogue between Anakin and Padme during the build-up in their ‘romance’ over the course of the movie. Just dreadful, and it took a bit of effort to get it to the point where it became reasonably convincing for myself - which involved totally removing quite a lot of their footage together, of course.

For me, the prequels as a whole (especially AOTC) were also disappointing due to the awkward relationship between Anakin and Obi-wan is concerned too, as that ended up giving me a whole other set of scenes/and dialogue that I had to alter for myself, into something I liked better.

Like others, there’s a whole heap of other stuff throughout the prequels that I ended up altering or totally removing for myself, but these 2 important relationships of Anakin were especially badly conceived by George in these movies, as far as I’m concerned.

The first of these standalone ‘spin-off’ movies had kinda fallen off my radar until yesterday, but the new trailer proved quite interesting in many ways.

The effects and action certainly look good so far, and hopefully I’ll warm to all these new cast members eventually. By the way, I was keen to see who was re-cast as Alex McCrindle’s ‘General Dodonna’ in this, but I don’t see anyone listed for the role over on IMDB.com…which is a pity, as you can’t have too many beards in ‘Star Wars’!

But this ‘heist’ scenario is looking promising as a ‘prequel’ of sorts to the OT, and looks like it could end up having a somewhat ‘gritty’ vibe judging by this footage. I just wonder how Alexandre Desplat’s score is going to end up sounding throughout, as it’s going to feel somewhat strange not to have John Williams scoring the whole thing this time around - however, it seems he’s listed as the composer of the ‘theme’ music, so things will probably kick off in the usual way with an info. scroll I presume. It would be nice if the new composer does a good job with this.

mfastx said:

Hi Ady I had a quick question for you.

At any point did you consider adding a “glass effect” to cockpit scenes in the Falcon, Luke’s X-Wing and the speeders on Hoth? I noticed this effect was quite noticeable in TFA and added a lot of realism, IMO. Is that something that could be done in ESB:R?

Thanks!

mfastx, just in case adywan’s too tied up to get back to you on this one anytime soon, I seem to remember that he ruled out adding ‘glass-like reflections/or scratches’ like this a long time ago - due to the fact that it would have ended up far too time-consuming to be worth it, considering the sheer amount of ship shots it would need to be done in. And the same goes for all the ‘ANH’/‘ROTJ’ ship shots too.

(Loving the enhancements to the Falcon’s interior by the way adywan)

doubleofive said:

In case you missed it:

https://swrevisited.wordpress.com/2016/03/23/echo-base-hanger-model/

Magical work once more…and I love how the bays/columns are going to better match the look of the bays/columns in the actual live-action set shots now!

Dual Wield said:

It’s been a while since my last post, but I just wanted to share some ESB:R related material with you all.

I remember commenting on this a while back, but I didn’t post the clip at the time. The brief snippets of those AT-AT shots are terrific looking. I certainly didn’t expect adywan to take the time to enhance/add continuity to the actual skies and backdrops as much as he seems to have ended up doing…but I’m sure glad he did. Wonderful work!

(and nice to get a look at his workstation too)

TV’s Frink said:

The very first edit I made, a good five or six years ago, was exactly this.

Heh, our only problem is that this would end up killing ‘Obi-wan’ prematurely before his appearance in the original trilogy…

On the other hand…since the current scroll only mentions two Jedi and doesn’t name ‘Obi-wan’, we could just ‘imagine’ that Ewen McGregor is playing someone else…and just add ‘Chapters I-III’ to the scroll instead for this to work perfectly!

(sorry for the thread derailment)

Sheepish said:

I think you’re referring to me, instead of Smithers. But yea, I’m bouncing back and forth between “Shroud of the Sith” and “Shroud of the Dark Side”. I didn’t realize there was another edit called “Shroud of the Dark Side”, so I’ll probably stick with the “Sith” version.

Sorry about that Sheepish, I got you both mixed up as I was typing that quickly. As for your title, ‘Shroud of the Sith’ sounds good too, if you decide to go with that.

liamnotneeson said:
Wow that is pretty short

This guy’s version of the prequels comes in at a reasonable 26 mins. 41 secs.! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SA9I54CRE-U

(in hindsight, my own ideal version would have been the usual ‘The Phantom Menace’ scroll…ship approaches and requests to land…but once landed, we cut to pilot saying “Captain, look!”…as ship and occupants are then blown up! End of story, heh.)

Smithers, I noticed from your YouTube trailer that you’re now using the words ‘Shroud of the Dark Side’ instead of ‘Shroud of the Sith’ which you named this thread with, which reminded me of the following edit -

I don’t normally comment on/review other people’s editing choices for the prequels, as I have my own very strongly-held, specific ‘cutlists’ planned for each of them…but just as an aside, I came across this recently posted edit called ‘StarWars Episode I-III Shroud of the DarkSide Prequel Trilogy (Fan Edit) - RE-EDITED’…which has some ‘interestingly’-spelt words in it’s new scroll…

After all that effort, poor guy, heh. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgvZxBbh6dE

adywan said:

Things are progressing really well.

I won’t quote your whole post adywan, but thanks for your recent update on page 1288 (before the dark times started…)
Some interesting stuff to be going on with there, especially about when you hope to get the initial mkv 720p release out there!

With a few reservations, I liked the movie overall…but would like to tweak certain moments here and there eventually. I’ve just seen the home release trailer today which shows a ‘time-stamped’ deleted scene. I was hoping that the ‘Snow Speeder Chase’ scene was fully completed in 5.1 sound and potentially usuable, but if they ALL end up ‘time-stamped’ then that’s a real pity. I’ll still be tweaking the actual movie for myself, regardless.

adywan said:

And for the editors hoping to use the Deleted Scenes in their fan edits, if they are presenting these scenes on the disk the way they show it in their commercial, then you’re sh*t out of luck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVzbyDq3QSY

Gah, with a few reservations I liked the movie overall, but there are a few tweaks I’d like to make for my own version eventually. However, I knew that fully ‘colour-corrected’, 5.1 sound, finished deleted scenes were a big ask to expect. I’d especially hoped that the ‘Snow Speeder Chase’ action scene could be used seeing as it’s being included…but if ALL the deleted scenes end up ‘time-stamped’, then that’s that!

The new ‘Han in Carbonite’ shots are looking terrific and seamless - and the preview on the previous page showing how it will look in ‘ROTJ:Revisited’ looks fantastic. This particular mis-match was something that few (if any) of us would have thought could be fixed at the outset, and was one that I’m sure most of us would have have not worried about too much…but all the extensive work on altering the shirt detail will prove an especially welcome effort by the time we eventually see it in the close-ups when Han is released. An incredible bit of work once again adywan!

jedimasterobiwan said:

han is killled by his son ben aka kylo ren and luke is in at the end

Nice review! - I lol’d. 😃

No time to include all my own initial impressions at the moment, but just to say for now that I’m ‘conflicted’…as I REALLY loved a lot of things…yet was a little underwhelmed by certain others. I look forward to reading how others here are finding the movie so far.

Hal 9000 said:

This trilogy of edits just seems to have a checklist of disliked moments cut out. I wouldn’t expect someone to see this and feel like they just watched a polished film.
I kept Vader’s “NOOO” precisely because it was too jarring to remove while keeping the rest of the scene. Most YouTube work I’ve seen (at least for single film edits; I don’t really care for 3-in-1’s) just cuts things wherever and may or may not smooth over the audio and apply a wipe transition. The Anti-Cheese versions are far from the worst, but the murky world of FE.org has collectively put out much better work, though aren’t as enticing as clicking on a YouTube link.
ImperialFighter, please let us know if you find anything in YouTube that’s well done, though.

Hal 9000, I haven’t had a chance to fully check out these ‘anti-cheese’ versions yet, as I said…so can’t comment on how ‘polished’ the choices and editing will seem to me - but I reckon the merits of every fan edit is very ‘subjective’ to different people anyway, and that their view of an edit’s quality will depend largely on what they personally think should be removed from each prequel’s footage - and some will be far more specific than others about what they wish to see included or excluded.

There seems to be so many shots and lines of dialogue that different people dislike about them, that they lend themselves to a multitude of re-editing possibilities - and in addition to that, there also seems to be numerous ways to alter some of the most commonly re-edited sequences too - for instance, the various ‘end’ scenes to REVENGE OF THE SITH are but one example of where different fan editors have very differing ideas on how they ‘should’ be done.

In fact, my own planned sequence of re-cuts for these various ‘end’ scenes differ quite a bit from other ROTS edits I’ve come across so far…although I realise that I may be the only one that will enjoy seeing it done my way! - which is fine, as the time I spent working out various alternatives that I liked, eventually threw up the version I was most happy with personally - which doesn’t happen to include Vader’s “NOOO” however.

(by the way, I’ve actually got a copy of your ROTS edit, and I look forward to checking out your other 2 well-received prequel edits too, sometime)

However, while there are some other well-known prequel edits around, I thought I’d take the time to list the various ones I came across on YouTube recently, while they are still there…as this seems to be the only place where the majority of these are available, to my knowledge. Some of them may be of interest to others, although I don’t know what footage has been included or excluded from any of them, at this point.

For those interested, just type these particular titles into the YouTube ‘searchbox’ exactly as I’ve written them out in upper and lower case letters, as I’m not going to type out all the direct links (however, I’ll include the names of the editors and the running times too, so that you have an idea what you’re in for) - So in no particular order of preference whatsoever (as I haven’t watched any of them yet) -

Phantom Menace - Anti-Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - features ‘creepy puppet Yoda’ - 1:40:49)

Phantom Menace - Anti Cheese Edit 1080 HD (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - features ‘CGI Yoda’ - 1:32:36, as he’s re-edited certain scenes since his initial version)

Attack of the Clones - Anti Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - 1:58:10)

Revenge Of The Sith Anti-Cheese Edit (by JeremyMWest-Esquire - 2:05:45)

Star Wars The Phantom Menace Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 1:51:27)

Star Wars Attack Of The Clones Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 2:00:14)

Star Wars Revenge Of The Sith Mature Edition (by matthew fisher - 1:56:22)

Star Wars: The Last Turn to the Darkside (A Fan-Edit of the Prequels) (by GratefulDeadpool - 2:42:39)

Star Wars: The Blackened Mantle (The Prequels Rewritten / Recut) (by Darth Lunar - 2:46:39)

Star Wars: Neon Noir (Fan Edit) (by Only Yoda Forgives - 1:40:41)

FALL OF THE JEDI - A Unique Star Wars Prequel Edit (by Greg Bartlett - 2:29:04)

Star Wars I-III A Phantom Edit 1080p (by Andrew Kwan - 2:05:25)

Star Wars: A Vergence in the Force [Episodes I-III Fanedit] (by Editor Binks - 2:19:09)

Star Wars: The Fall of the Galactic Republic (by TJTheEmperor - 3:28:20)

Star Wars Episode I-III Rise of the Empire (Fan Edit) (by JXEditor - 2:02:35)

STAR WARS ORIGINS (Prequel Edit) (by Nico Negron - 2:31:27)

Star Wars Prequels Edited: Ep 2 & 3 (by Hijorn Bjorn - 2:26:04)

STAR WARS Episode I-III The Fall of The Jedi Order (Fan Edit) Prequels (by zaandarbrow 2nd Channel - 4:19:50)

Star Wars: The Fate of the Chosen (PREQUELS RECUT 2015) (by Taylor Melnik - 2:52:02)

STAR WARS: EPISODE I - THE PHANTOM MENACE: FORCE SPEED EDITION (by Crashlander - 1:11:55)

Star Wars Retake: I-III Fan Edit (by C. S. Wagner - 3:11:18)

Star Wars 1-3 Revenge of the Re-Edit (by B Visser - 2:02:21)

Star Wars: Episode I-III Flashback to the Dark Side (by Luke Skywalker - 26:41) - now that’s short!

And in addition to all the above, there was also one called Star Wars Prequels Fan-Edit: Order 66 1080p - but I never got a chance to see who it was by, or how long it was, as it seems to be gone now - and there will be other edits not listed above which will appear eventually too, no doubt.

While I know that none of these will organise the footage in precisely the way I want to see, there may be a moment or two that inspires me to tweak my preferred alterations a little - but that’s a lot of footage to trawl through, regardless of quality! 😉

(by the way, does anyone know how come a lot of these full-length edits manage to stay up on YouTube for so long, while other edited snippets and clips seem to be removed very quickly?)