What I'm saying is, that I didn't compare the two shots when correcting them. But looking at the I.B. print reference, the first shot is actually somewhat closer to the original than the 2nd one.
And there actually is a color difference between those two shots on the I.B. print as well, albeit a smaller one than in the DeEd.
@MM1138: Hi, first of all, the pictures show up as broken - you have to rightclick the image and press view image (or whatever is the equivalent of that in your browser) before copying the address for inserting.
And now to your question - why is it like that? I suppose you'd have to ask the people who timed the BD - I did a shot-by-shot correction, not frame-by-frame, so this is something I just missed.
@StarWars4Ever: Yeah, I though about it, I even started recording one but then I decided not to.
OK, so upon closer examination, I found out, that it is only one of the files, that does this - all the others seem ok with the Separate Fields set to none. I could upload it for you to examine and see if anything can be done about it but it's over 4GB, would that be ok?
Oh, well, the buildings of those theaters I was talking about are still there, they are just not movie theaters any more - they were put out of business by multiplexes.
Oh, and I've been well enough, thank you :-) Yourself?
OK, so I finally got around to trying out the 1080p to 720p script AntcuFaalb sent me a couple of days ago. It took me a while to figure it out, because I was getting some errors and then I had to figure out how to use VirtualDub, but that was pretty easy and it was well worth it, because the results are nothing short of amazing! Seriously, can you f*cking believe this?:
That's not really surprising - the theater in which I saw Episode I doesn't exist anymore and the theater in which I saw Episode II as well as the LOTR trilogy doesn't exist any more either.
THANK YOU! Please regular posters, feel absolutely free to speak for me, whenever one of these ever-repeating questions comes up. It gets really very tiring, typing the same stuff like two times a week, so I'm very happy, when someone steps up like this a answers for me. And then, if I have anything to add or amend, I will. In this case, I don't - couldn't possibly have said it better myself.
Thanks. All I did with the dub tracks was that I downloaded and added them in but other people may know what's going on with that.
And yet I do, as is evident in the picture I posted.
I edited the post - I typed 23.97 instead of 29.97 by mistake - my AE Composition is set to 29.97fps.
I assumed that setting the fields to none would set the video as progressive.
But my AE Composition is set to 29.97fps, so I don't see any reason, why interlacing artifacts should appear, if the video is set as progressive - it should just take it as 29.97 full progressive frames per second.
Yeah, I still haven't seen the movie and am waiting for a decent preservation to watch it.
Well, they are multiple very large files but if I could send you the smallest one an you could send back a script, that'd be great. PM sent.
Sorry to go a bit off topic here but I need some technical help with interlaced video in AE. More here.
Sorry to go a bit off topic here but I need some technical help with interlaced video in AE. More here.
It would be good if this could be solved by setting in AE but if it can't, what would be the best way to first convert those files to progressive, ideally keeping all other properties the same, so that I can then just swap the files in the AE Project.
I created a new topic about the interlaced video help in the Technical Help section, so if you can help, please, respond there!!! THANKS!
I've pretty much finished the color correction of Puggo's ROTJ but I'm having some trouble with the interlacing of Puggo's files.
Here's the media nfo of one of the AVIs I got from Puggo:
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 4.15 GiB
Duration : 20mn 36s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 28.9 Mbps
Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 20mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Stream size : 4.14 GiB (100%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=manual / wb mode=one push / white balance= / fcm=manual focus
The only interlacing settings I found in AE were in the Interpret Footage menu for each input file. The default settings were "Lower Field First" but as you can see in picture A) bellow (open link in new panel to see full resolution) this created horrible aliasing, so I tried checking the "Preserve Edges" box, which helped a tiny bit but as you can see in picture C, when setting "Separate Fields" to "Off" the jaggies disappeared completely - I thought then, that I had figured it out, only to find, that the "Off" setting took care of the aliasing, only to introduce typical interlacing artifacts (as seen in picture C2) which in turn disappear, when you set it to "Lower Field First" (B2).
Trying to play with the pulldown settings only introduced even worse interlacing artifacts and I'm quite sure that there is no pulldown in Puggo's files anyway, because when you play them, they do run at 29.97fps (way too fast).
Can anyone please help?
As pittrek says, the colors are based on a Technicolor print. It was sometimes difficult to get them to look better, because of how screwed up the source is, but I think it looks ok all things considered. If you feel it's too saturated, you can always lower the saturation on your TV - I remember when I first played v2.0 on my parents' HDTV and I was horrified at how over-saturated it looked, only to find out, that their TV was pretty badly miss-calibrated.
Also, sorry to go a bit off topic here but I need some technical help with interlaced video in AE. More here.
Huh?
I've pretty much finished the color correction of this for Puggo but I'm having some trouble with the interlacing of Puggo's files.
Here's the media nfo of one of the AVIs I got from Puggo:
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 4.15 GiB
Duration : 20mn 36s
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 28.9 Mbps
Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 20mn 36s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Stream size : 4.14 GiB (100%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=manual / wb mode=one push / white balance= / fcm=manual focus
The only interlacing settings I found in AE were in the Interpret Footage menu for each input file. The default settings were "Lower Field First" but as you can see in picture A) bellow (open link in new panel to see full resolution) this created horrible aliasing, so I tried checking the "Preserve Edges" box, which helped a tiny bit but as you can see in picture C, when setting "Separate Fields" to "Off" the jaggies disappeared completely - I thought then, that I had figured it out, only to find, that the "Off" setting took care of the aliasing, only to introduce typical interlacing artifacts (as seen in picture C2) which in turn disappear, when you set it to "Lower Field First" (B2).
Trying to play with the pulldown settings only introduced even worse interlacing artifacts and I'm quite sure that there is no pulldown in Puggo's files anyway, because when you play them, they do run at 29.97fps (way too fast).
Can anyone please help?
EDIT: I created a new topic about this in the Technical Help section, so if you can help, please, respond there!!! THANKS!
That's great news hairy_hen. It would be awesome, if you could cut together the sound for the doc and then I'd be happy to put together the video side of it. Or maybe the sound doc could even be sound-only, if you put it together that way - I've seen things like that done on BD extras. And yeah, just the general overview would be fine for this and I'd mainly like the story of how you made your sound restorations.
Well, the "Introducing the Rotoscoping" part should have a lot of that.
Seems to work perfectly fine for me.
To be honest, I've seen so much Star Wars bonus material, that I wouldn't really need to see more. What I'd love to see on a hypothetical OOT set would be a detailed documentary about the restoration.