Harmy

Sorry, but you're wrong about that: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmaCQiXHn7Q#t=00m02s

Thanks guys. I can tell you, after the flyby, I thought rotoscoping the ronto (rontoscoping?) out of that last shot would be a piece of cake but it was a bitch... I don't know how Ady did all the rontoscoping in ANH:R, it looks amazing.

What's that got to do with what version of TESB he shows his little sister?

Captain Antilies, if you had to watch on DVD on your HD projector, (*cringe* - there are HD options you know) you should have shown your sister Ady's theatrical reconstruction A) It's the original cut B) Most of the time it's actually better looking than the official 2004 DVD (and not only the corrected colours but even sharpness and detail and stuff). Or you should download Ady's AVCHD, which is 1080p and is colour corrected and it is a 97 SE reconstruction, which is still waaay better than the 2004 abortion.

Damn, and you tell me now, when I rotoscoped the new sarlacc out of that shot and already released my reconstruction? ;-D

I'm apparently not a very keen observer, because I did that, which means that at some point I had both versions layered over each other in AE with 50% opacity and yet I never noticed...

Vbangle, I think Zion said he would release them

And Zion, I'm sorry, I wasn't saying you're lying or anything, I was just really excited about these clips being released and when that clip didn't turn out to be what I expected, I was just a bit disappointed.

Here's the latest thingy :-)

Most of it is from Ady's Revisited but it's just a test anyway.

Han shot first or Greedo needs glasses :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a3Z-ImKGbk&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Thanks.

Btw. Erik, what do you mean "With a little rotoscoping, they might turn out really great."? Rotoscoping is the way I did it.

And here's another one, there's still some room for improvement but I think it's pretty cool.

Here's another version with different colouring.

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Here's the latest version of the Mos Eisley video. It still needs some work but it should potentially blend better with HD footage. Bear in mind that it's a 5 seconds long shot, so it passes really quickly within a movie, so it shouldn't be as bad in an edit.

I don't really have a problem with the Emperor's theme but I wouldn't mind if it wasn't there.

Like muddyknees, I also didn't much like the addition of the Imperial March because it is such a notorious piece of music, that it never goes unnoticed by me and therefore takes me out of the movie every time.

And the addition of prequel music felt completely wrong for me, as I tend to ignore the existence of the prequels when I watch the real STAR WARS and being reminded of their existence in one of the coolest sequences of the original film isn't something I'd appreciate. When I watched STAR WARS B.P. ( before prequels ;-)  ) I could imagine what Vader's and Ben's lines during their fight meant as something great. Now I'm forced to remember the boring 10hrs long perfectly choreographed fighting sequence with atrocious acting and dialogue being thrown at me here and there. And having to listen to the music that was used in that fight only reinforces that :-(

But on the other hand, there seem to be many people who enjoy these additions, so like I already said, there's no need for a Purist Edit, all that needs to be done to please most people is to put in a Purist audio mix. And it wouldn't even be necessary to do that, just release the Purist mix separately and anyone who wants it can mux it in themselves.

Yeah, I'm working on ways to improve it and that ship blob is already virtually invisible in the latest version. One way I'm testing is to give the SE footage less opacity and blend it more with the GOUT footage, which would then yield a quality that would be closer to the GOUT but with less smearing and more detail.

adywan said:

 

Harmy, are you sure that is from my AVCHD? It looks like there's been very heavy DVNR added to it, which i didn't use on my AVCHD

Oh, yeah, sorry, it's from a 4GB re-encode I had on my HDD, I didn't have the original at hand and as it was only for the colours and would be scaled down to DVD res for the comparison, I figured it shouldn't matter so much, so the bluriness is probably due to the recompression.

In time, yeah, but I will probably be waiting for the Blu-Rays or at the very least Dark Jedi's GOUT v3. But I decided to do the next version in 720p only, I honestly don't think there's much difference and hopefully the SD shots would fit better with the HD footage.

doubleofive said:

Thanks, Harmy!

You're very welcome :-) Just trying to save Ady some work.

I must say, having watched my PDE AVCHD (which is based on Ady's for the most part, so the colours are the same) yesterday, that while it is a huge improvement over the 2004 colours, the outside shots (and not as much this one as the night ones) are too white and do need more blue, so I'm really looking forward to seeing what Ady has in store for ESB:R.

Here:

1st one is the AVCHD, 2nd one is the reconstruction.

Radi0n said:

Even if it were an ice cream cart, it still seems to be flying backwards ;)
Harmy has a valid point; replacing it with another model to have it fly properly should work fine and dandy :)

LOL

But maybe just replace it with a tie fighter or something, because I don't think you can say they put it there just because they could, it gives an impression of realism when you have things moving outside. I just watched ESB on an HD projector yesterday (my room-mate's got one and it's totally awesome and it's kinda sad though, that it's the closest to a cinematic experience of STAR WARS I ever got) and I was so sucked in by the Executor reveal and the scene that follows. I felt like I was in space and I thought that exactly at the moment Vader's looking out in space and there are the massive stardestroyers and smaller ships flying around, it's awesome. God I love these films!

I thought that as it was that shot, it had some relevance here but we're getting too far off topic and I don't wanna hijack the thread, so I'm moving this discussion to my PDE thread, where it is more relevant, as that's where I'd theoretically be using it.

The Aluminum Falcon said:

Just saw your little experiment Harmy. I'm impressed to say the least, especially since you think it still needs some work. Perhaps we can get rid of ALL of the badly DVNR-ed shots with your process, which is what Black Magic would have accomplished if it was carried out on all shots.

Here's a little experiment of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Timirt67zMQ

It still needs some work but it was just an idea I got when trying to do it in photoshop.

Something like this should actually be quite easy with the "look sir droids" shot, as the quality of that isn't actually that bad in GOUT.

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And here's a little experiment of mine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Timirt67zMQ

It still needs some work but it was just an idea.