Harmy

Yeah, the colours aren't final in any of the shots I post, I'll have to match them with the rest of the film when cutting.

Here's another little something :-)

I would also like to repeat my request for any hi-res original matte paintings. I know they're out there because Ady used them for his ESB Reconstruction and I'd like to do the same to actually keep those scenes where he used them HD and not just an upscale of Ady's version with HD elements added.

doubleofive said:

Thanks. You know, as much crap as we give the SE, they worked really hard on them. Sure, not all of the decisions were great, but they did good with what they were supposed to do.

I must disagree. While despecializing the shots, I noticed there was a lot of lazy rotoscoping done for the SEs and some other changes are technically not that great either.

Also, 005, you asked me to tell you if I notice any more changes, so here goes:

R2 was also recoloured in all the shots when Luke comes to the Cloud City and is flying through the clouds.

EDIT: Oops, sorry, you've already got it, I must have overlooked it.

Thanks :-)

OK, try this.

Btw. I made a new thread for PDE v3.0.

I just muxed the original 1.0 video with hairy_hen's sound mixes, so if you don't want to download the whole thing over and just want to remux yours, go here and download them, you'd go about it exactly the same way as when applying the audio fix. :-)

dark_jedi said:

 

That is the biggest problem I keep running into, the way the crawl breaks apart towards the top, and the funky glow on Tantiv IV's engines as it goes by, if I could just figure that out.

OK, figured it out myself, so here are a few frames extracted from the AE files. It's really nothing special though.

I certainly wouldn't mind posting some frames but I don't know how to export a frame from After Effects like that, so if anyone can tell me how, I'll be happy to do it. I also just fixed the issue in the first shot where Luke activates his lightsabre and when he lifts it to his face, it gets all blurry.

Also, 005, thanks for the comparisons, they're an awesome source. I knew there was something off about the lightsabres in that scene but I would have thought it could be fixed through colour correction. Based on your comparisons, I also fixed the overblown flash when Luke cuts Vader's head off. I tried just toning down the brightness but that didn't work, so I had to rotoscope in the original flash from GOUT. It would have been better if I could have used the 97SE but I still can't find it anywhere - the only one I found was Reivax SW.

Thanks, guys, on h_h's PM request, here's the clip in HQ mp4.

No, only one was uploaded and it wasn't worth anything. See here.

Cool, I'm interested in this as a way of finding out what the colours should be for colour correction.

Btw, I noticed this:

 

One drawback of saturating the GOUT is that it sometimes brings out the flaws in the master. Although difficult to see from a still, this shot has a lot of video noise and artifacting in the sky, because the original negative is very grainy and also because the video master has a hard time with strong primary colours. This noise is on the uncorrected GOUT but it becomes more noticeable when saturated. The 2004 master had the same problem with this shot as well, and you can see it in the Puggo 16mm too.

The 2004 master can't possibly have the same problem with this particular shot as it's been replaced by a completely new one for the SE.

doubleofive said:

 

TV's Frink said:

What thread is this again?

I agree. Plenty of threads for this argument, gentlemen. Lets take it outside. :-)

 

Yeah, they're also anamorphic, it's almost like Lucas is mocking us :-)

rockin said:

They look really good.

But I am wondering Harmy, for this next release are you going to make higher bitrate versions available and offer even more audio?

I know that for ANH, you are using Ady's AVCHD so you are limited there, but Ady has a 13gb ESB that is in .mkv format which is a much higher bitrate than his AVCHD, and for ROTJ you probably already know that there are some high quality bitrate 2004 HD broadcasts. 

Absolutely, I already said I'm going to use the 14GB MKV of Ady's ESB and higher bitrate versions of SW (I'm not using Ady's AVCHD of SW this time) and ROTJ. They will be 720p DVD9 AVCHDs; I'm absolutely decided on that, I don't want to make these Blu-Ray because I haven't got access to a BD burner and the uploads would be painful too but I want it to be playable on BD players. 720p looks great - actually I've got a 6,5GB 720p version of AOTC and it looks way better than an 8GB 1080p version because the compression took away more detail on the 1080p than what was gained by the resolution. I'll also be encoding HQ 2PASS this time to keep as much quality as possible, so don't worry. Noticing the loss of quality and detail in the previous PDE versions was actually the main reason that prompted me to make new versions, so I'll try to make these the highest possible quality given the source materials.

Also, for ROTJ will you be fixing the brightness thing at the end in the Luke Vs Vader throne room fight? I think they are a few frames in there that make the black bars white/grey from where you tweaked the brightness a bit.

Oh, absolutely, that is already fixed in the DVD reconstruction and it will be fixed in the new PDE as well.

As to the audio, I'm not sure I'll be adding anything else, each disc will definitely contain 3 audio tracks: hairy_hen's 5.1, Belbucus' 2.0 in some higher bitrate AC3 and a low bitrate Czech Dubing. And maybe some additional ones, if there's enough space, like the monomix for SW or maybe some commentary tracks.

I won't be re-doing any other lightsabres though, they can be fixed just fine by colour correction. And it was painful to do, I spent all night on it, but I'm really happy about the outcome, so it was worth it.

Thanks, guys, here's a comparison video for the cave fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohQraIUc8n0

Here's another taster of TESB PDE v3.0:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RiTNXbVeAg

In this scene, I rotoscoped the original lightsabres and flashes (which were recomposited in the 2004 SE) back in.

Yeah, I wanted to do the same thing in the Jedi DVD and I also didn't figure it out. But I added a "RESUME FILM" button into the language menu.

PM sent :-)

Thanks. Yeah, I warned you not to expect anything great from the menu. I found the work on it quite boring, so I din't really give it all the attention it may have needed. It serves it's purpose though.

As to the "soon you will learn to appreciate me" shot, somebody already pointed it out and yeah, it seems that something's gone wrong in the encoding when adding the subtitle, cuz it's got more compression artefacts, but I don't think it's anything gruesome.

And thanks for testing this thoroughly. What do you think about the menus?

Oh, what do you mean after the credits? Like the end credits or the begining logos?

That toad was always there.

dark_jedi said:

 I was commenting on you saying that the PAL set did not suffer from the green tint on the left side, YES it does

Sorry, I didn't mean that at all, I meant the overall green tint as shown in the screencaps I posted. It was a misunderstanding and I apologise :-) The colours are definitely improved overall, it was just the crawl that I noticed.