Oh, no, it's good that you pointed it out (though I probably won't be doing anything about it in this case). As to that red sky shot, that is very much intentional.
Here's WP3 reel 2:
That sounds awesome! Can't wait!
Yeah, you've got to laugh at that article. Also, looking at it, it seems they didn't even do a new transfer for the Ultimate Hunter edition at all, they just took the old transfer, brightened it selectively, upped contrast and saturation and applied tons of DVNR and then released it as a remastered edition. That's got to be the worse double-dip in the history of ever. I'm really glad I managed to find the old Blu-Ray release, although similarly to the TPM situation of BD vs HDTV, it has it's own issues.
TheBoost said:
georgec said:
Darth Id said:
The fact that even ONE person went to see THIS movie in the theater like two months after the blu-ray came out on home video...
Exactly. SW fans, even the ones who openly criticize George, the prequels, the special editions, and all the other crap, still can't manage to say, "No," to the flannel overlord. The levels of self-loathing are immeasurable.
I never even tried to say "no."
I have no personal struggle, self loathing, or cognitive dissonance over Star Wars.
When Lucas puts out a product I do not want or actively dislike (blurays) I don't buy it. Easy as that.
If Lucas puts out a product I'll enjoy (Clone Wars cartoon, TPM 3D) I have no problem enjoying it.
My demand for the OOT is in no way compromised by this stance.
I must agree. If you enjoy something, why not watch it out of some principle? You'd be succumbing to your own anger and robbing yourself of enjoyment.
Looks good, at least at this resolution but why is it flipped?
Yeah, that's the thing, it's from a seriously pink-faded print and when a print has as much fading as this ESB print, you basically have to re-time it in order to fix it, so you can hardly take it as a reference. I can sort of trust the SW print, since it's low fade, though apparently it's timed much colder than a normal projection print and it would be hard to determine how much colder exactly, so it's not the greatest reference either. So you'd actually need a reference to colour time both of those prints.
Let's all post like this from now on! Or maybe take it to the next level.
Oh, I see, that was unintentional :-( *Walks off in shame*
Yeah, it does.
Well, yeah, it had to fit with the SE footage within the same shot. Like I said, I'm gonna add the grain back for the final version (though probably not as much).
Yeah, from the same source I used.
It ends with the DS conference.
Well, this shot always looked like crap, having just seen what this shot looks like on a well preserved IB print, it doesn't get much better that these DVNR-less LD captures.
SW:
Disc 1) 1977 version + 1981 version through branching. (all original soundmixes included of course).
Disc 2) 1997 version
Disc 3) 2004 version + 2011 version though branching.
Disc 4) SW only related bonus materials.
ESB:
Disc 1) 1980 35mm version + 70mm version through branching. (original soundmixes included of course).
Disc 2) 1997 version
Disc 3) 2004 version + 2011 version though branching.
Disc 4) ESB related bonus materials.
ROTJ:
Disc 1) 1983 version (original soundmixes included of course).
Disc 2) 1997 version
Disc 3) 2004 version + 2011 version though branching.
Disc 4) ROTJ related bonus materials.
The SWE seems to have more horizontal resolution than the JSC but less vertical. It's hard to decide what looks better. Also, I think the JSC seems to look worse because it's less contrasty, compare it with the DeEd, which uses the JSC but it's cleaned up and the colours are tweaked:
JSC
SWE
DeEd
Yeah, me too.
Yes, I'm done with what I have so far but I didn't even get a full reel this time, so I'm waiting for the rest.
They're not getting rid of the frames, they're fixing them.
Moth3r said:
Sort of a follow-up to this thread; what is the best source for the ~140 frames of the infamous Mos Eisley speeder pass-by shot?
This shot is one of the best examples from the GOUT DVD showing the detail loss as a result of DVNR smearing (upscaled to 720p):
Here's the same frame from the French THX laserdisc release - more detail is retained, but overall it still looks like shit:
How's this:
DeEd v2.0:
Done using a cleaned up version of JSC (thanks to Laserschwert).
I'm actually considering graining it up a bit for the final version, since this clean, it seems inaccurate.
No. I wanted to but they mostly look worse than the GOUT or are incomplete.
Jaitea said:
Harmy, I wouldn't have thought you were born in the late 80's, with the passion you have in restoring the originals, I honestly thought you had experienced them as they were originally released.
That's the whole point, I want to experience it in the closest way possible, which currently is an HD preservation very close to the original.
Mainly, he manipulated n1 into not posting here anymore, the old master manipulator :-)
Paramecium302 said:
I was born in '91, but I've loved Star Wars since I've been able to cry. I haven't had the pleasure of seeing any Star Wars in theaters besides the Prequels which, and I apologize for this, is why I'm excited about them in 3D, so I can see them in theaters.
I get what someone (I forgot who) said each person has their own definition of what Star Wars means to them. Makes sense.
I love STAR WARS - the movie and its two sequels.
I was born in '88, so I never saw the originals in cinema and I even saw the Special Editions of ESB and ROTJ before I saw the original, so for me, wanting the original versions of the SW Trilogy isn't a question of some kind of childhood nostalgia, it's a question of film history - when I watch a film made in a certain era, I want it to look that way - I watched Butch Casidy and the Sundance Kid on Blu-Ray today and it was a beautiful transfer, which looked like a pristine print of a 60s film and it was magical.
I liked the prequels when I was a kid but I also liked Power Rangers you know. So when I grew up, I realized they weren't so great. I don't hate the prequels, I hate that they're the reason that the original trilogy movies, indisputably some of the most acclaimed films in history, and movies I love, are being changed in their image and the original versions suppressed into obscurity.
Well, you know, that's what subscriptions are for. I only read threads I'm subscribed to and I only subscribe to threads I'm interested in. And every once in a while, I look to the forums if any new interesting threads popped up.
Yeah, I can definitely back this up.
