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- Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released)
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I don't remember thinking much about that, I just followed the reference.
I don't remember thinking much about that, I just followed the reference.
1080p is only slightly less than 2K (1080p is 1920x1080 and 2K is 2048x1080) and even now a vast majority of DIs (digital inter-positive) are done at 2K, so the movies are usually shot/scanned at 4K or more now, but all the post processing is still being done at 2K - even for films such as The Hobbit, which was shot 5K but the finished film simply doesn't exist at a resolution higher than 2K, because a vast majority of digital projectors in cinemas all over the world are 2K or less anyway. So in theory, 1080p is perfectly fine for cinemas. The 2004 master having a lot of other faults is another story of course.
Yeah, that, plus I'm convinced that 8K (or even 4K) content for home viewing is just marketing hokum.
@johnlocke: Wasn't the jestful tone of my post obvious from the use of the phrase "blood money" and the sticking-its-tongue-out smiley? If not, I'm sorry and I want to assure you that you didn't annoy me in the slightest :-)
@CatBus: Even if I do the actual encoding of the DVD, I'd still be using Chewtobacca's script, so I don't really decide this but I think it's safe to say that pretty much the same settings will be used on the resizing.
Sure, why wouldn't I be?
I don't want your blood money! :-P
No no, just school and some futile efforts to find a summer job. The silver lining is that the futility of those efforts is good news for the Despecialized Editions, as I'll have more time to work on them during the summer :-)
Hey guys, I'm sorry about the lack of updates lately - it is unfortunately congruent with the lack of progress. Don't worry though, I'm not abandoning this project or anything - there were some setbacks from real life but everything should get back on track soon.
It's probably some sort of broadcast master. I wonder if anyone actually has the tech to play it back.
Edit: Scratch that...
That's pretty cool.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
So, this is allegedly the first photograph ever taken and it seems to have what appears to be a stardestroyer in it :)
yoda-sama said:
tortugash said:
I have an idea, and it relates to the shots that were omitted from the Special Edition. I was watching this DeEd, and great work! It keeps getting better too with the improved sources in Star Wars v.2.1.
There are some scenes in Empire and Jedi where there were shots outright missing, plugged back in from the GOUT. What a shame. I have been looking through eBay, and I see there are some laserdiscs of the OT, and because many of them don't say Widescreen on the cover, I presume that there are pan-and-scan copies on laserdisc?
Does anyone own these movies in full screen laserdisc? The reason I ask is pertaining to resolution. The GOUT, being non-anamorphic only has a vertical resolution of about 240 pixels. The pan-and-scan on the other hand utilizes the full vertical resolution of 480. Better yet, who owns a PAL pan-and-scan laserdisc with 576 pixels high? What if we rotoscoped the higher resolution subjects from the full screen laserdisc and inserted them over the upscaled GOUT?
Of course, there are parts of the screen missing on the sides in pan-and-scan, but the most important parts of the subject(s) are all there, and so what if the background items are relatively soft. I want to see "Lapti Nek" and discern more detail on Sy Snoodles. The GOUT version is like watching the scene through soup.
The same practice could be applied to many of the shots replaced in Empire and Jedi.
I realize that with older transfers, many other anomalies would still pervade, but the higher res would at least make the subjects clearer and in sharper focus.
While I understand the idea of "bigger must be better", there is the matter of quality. Laserdisc is no simple medium to transfer from, the vast majority of players all convert the video to analog before outputting, it is only the very rare player that lets you at the A/V digitally. In the earlier days of originaltrilogy.com there were big projects that were trying to get good laserdisc copies (Definitive Edition, mostly, with the Leia welding scene in ESB intact) to someone in a country (which, I forget) that had a super rare player that you could bypass the analog conversion. In short, getting a quality digital recording from a Laserdisc source is more involved than you'd think.
You can't bypass analog on LD. LD is an analog format - or at least the video is. When you read about the players that could bypass the analog conversion and output digital, it was about audio only - video on LD is always analog.
I'll be meeting Puggo in person tomorrow! Ain't that cool? :-)
Yes, I thought I already said that, didn't I?
I meant subtitles for the documentary, not the movie :-)
Thank you. Yes, the quality isn't really much improved but that was to be expected, really, so no worries. And you're right, it will still serve its purpose nicely :-)
As to adding subtitles - it would be good to have subtitles in different languages for it for the BD as well, so if you guys do make subs for this, it would be great, if you could send them to me :-)
I am sorry, it wasn't meant to be a slight at you. It would have been better to just upload the mkv to YouTube (I think that should normally work) or if it has to be mp4, just use YAMB or something to just remux it without reencoding, because that must have caused loss in quality too, though it is mostly because YouTube compression is just horrible.
Yeah, but if they figured out a compression algorithm, which could compress 4K to a BD50 and instead applied the same algorithm to 1080p, we could get much closer to lossless, which I think would be much more beneficial than compressed 4K.
^Exactly!
So, I checked out the clip on youtube and it looks like ass due to the horrible compression, so I still highly recommend downloading it from here, because on youtube you can't really appreciate the differences at all.
In this shot, it was never removed, just brightening the overly darkened image of the BD brings it out more. The only inside-cockpit shot that had the transparency removed was the first one in this clip (and I did restore it there).
Thanks for uploading :-)