Handman

TV's Frink said:

http://vimeo.com/114517960

Magnifico.

Looking at the film again, it doesn't look like any apparent damage to the trees would have shown up by the crash site; Luke just broke a few twigs.

So, I know it's been awhile since you last posted your work-in-progress "Introducing the Despecialized Edition", Harmy, but I do have some feedback on one thing that irks me.

When the narrator begins talking about the National Film Registry, he says, "But it was here that a problem would occur." This phrasing irks me, because it suggests that the main problem we have is that the NFR doesn't have an archival print. The problem occurred with the introduction of the 1997 SE, not the fact that the NFR doesn't have an archival print.

Why not just say, "The NFR does not have an archival print of the original 1977 Star Wars," or something to that effect? I like how you transition into the 1997 SE by saying that LucasFilm offered a '97 print, but I don't think you have to go deep into the legislation. Mostly, I don't think "But it was HERE that a problem would occur" accurately describes our predicament.

Thoughts?

SilverWook said:

It's still playing in 2D at my local bargain cinema, but I don't think they would appreciate my taking screenshots with my phone. ;)

 I'm sure if you specified it was for research they wouldn't mind.

Possessed said:

I must be the only person on the planet who actually likes Nemesis.

 Yep!

I can't see it either.

NeverarGreat said:

Well I expect being on this forum may be more embarrassing than porn for some people...

 What? I love this place.

Digitally composited effects look CG to me. They just look... I dunno, off? Anyway, that leaves me in no position to judge whether something's a model or actually CGI.

Can anyone put these frames together to see what happens?

Neat! I'm interested in where this is going 

Uhh... what?

ratpack1961 said:

TheBoost said:

Revenge of the Sith. Kinda dull sometimes.  I had a thought watching it last night.

Just imagine this.  Palpy and Anakin are watching the opera. A servant brings Palpy a drink, offers one to Anakin, who is going to refuse but a look from Palpy makes him reconsider and he takes it. They are both having a drink throughout the scene. 

No new dialogue. No new special effects. Just a little bit of business that:

• reinforces the subtext of the scene, serving as a kind of metaphor
• give the actors something to do other than stare at eachother.
• give the audience something to see other than bad greenscreen compositing.

 

I really don't see how a cool and refreshing beverage will enhance this scene.  It's not a beer commercial ya know.

 It's not the beverage itself, it's what it shows between the characters. I prefer it over just sitting on a couch and talking.

I like the idea, but I can't really help with that kind of stuff.

jedimasterobiwan said:

put back some of edited stuff back into the edits to make it fit like

the chosen one stuff

the midiclorians

c3po being bulit by anakin

 I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that those things are not going to be put in. If you want, you can make your own edit, but I think the majority of us here would prefer that stuff not to ever be mentioned.

Are they... stars? Is it like the Star Trek viewscreen?

You will soon learn that we make fun of everyone, whether they deserve it or not.

moviefreakedmind said:

Handman said:

I might regret saying this, but I just don't think this is one of those problems we can solve. As far as I'm aware, it's human nature to do this sort of thing, and the only "solution" is to teach everyone the effects of it, tell them it's not that nice to do, and offer some methods to cope with it.

To quote Lucas:

" It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that. But we can diminish the effects of it."

 It is taught though. Most bullies don't know or think that they're bullying. 

 Yeah, I know. I'm not saying it's perfect, we could definitely improve the way we teach it, but someone much smarter than I am would have the answer as to how.

I might regret saying this, but I just don't think this is one of those problems we can solve. As far as I'm aware, it's human nature to do this sort of thing, and the only "solution" is to teach everyone the effects of it, tell them it's not that nice to do, and offer some methods to cope with it.

To quote Lucas:

" It's stylistically designed to be that way and you can't undo that. But we can diminish the effects of it."

TheBoost said:

Revenge of the Sith. Kinda dull sometimes.  I had a thought watching it last night.

Just imagine this.  Palpy and Anakin are watching the opera. A servant brings Palpy a drink, offers one to Anakin, who is going to refuse but a look from Palpy makes him reconsider and he takes it. They are both having a drink throughout the scene. 

No new dialogue. No new special effects. Just a little bit of business that:

• reinforces the subtext of the scene, serving as a kind of metaphor
• give the actors something to do other than stare at eachother.
• give the audience something to see other than bad greenscreen compositing.

 Gah, hearing all the awesome ways the prequels could have been better makes them all that more difficult to watch! They definitely needed more stuff like that.

Hey, good for you.

Your link doesn't work. Maybe that's for the best.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKsvXfUvCkQ

Imperial March on a 3D printer.

TV's Frink said:

Bingowings said:

We had a prominent member of the community named after what Carrie wore instead of underwear in space.

 Until he starts posting again, I've (sadly) fixed that for you.

 What? Gaffer Tape left? How long has it been already?

Yirmeyahu said:

Amazing work Harmy! Much respect to you and the community.

I've recently watched the 10min short "making of" video on YT, taking into account all of the sources used to create the DE.

Very impressive work.. I'm at a loss for words..

*WE'RE NOT WORTHY! WE'RE NOT WORTHY!* ;-)

It looks as though you are planning on a full BD release with additional special features. Is this correct?

 Hey, Kermit, welcome to the forum!

Harmy is currently working on the full BD release w/ special features, but I don't think it will be released until he finishes Jedi 2.0, if I'm remembering correctly. At any rate, I'm sure it will be worth the wait.

Alderaan said:

NeverarGreat said:

Alderaan said:

It just occurred to me, when Lucas last restored the original negatives, it had been 12 years since Jedi and 18 years since Star Wars, and they were said to be in very bad shape.

It has now been almost 20 years since the last OOT restoration (which was later converted into the '97 SE).

What are the chances that the negatives and fx are in even worse shape than they were in '95?

If the RMW 4K work is from a 'new' scan of the original elements, it would seem that the negatives are not much changed from what we've seen, however the lightsaber effects have continued to degrade, again, from the short snipped that we've seen.

 

I was under the impression that it was a scan from the 2004 SE that was to be used for 3D Lucas-graffiti releases that are now abandoned?

 I didn't know American Graffiti was getting a 3D release!

Today people here have called me both dad and son. Does anyone else have some weird family connection to me?

Oh, and my final response would be: "No."