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#198113
Topic
Rewrite the OT in light of the PT
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Originally posted by: Master Skywalker
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Coming in the 30th Anniversary 3-D Special Edition: Han Solo's blaster is replaced with a walkie talkie as he confronts Greedo.


And his walkie-talkie shoots FORCE LIGHTNING!!!!


Better yet, he waits till Greedo shoots at him, dodges it and then throws the walkie talkie at Greedo with such inhuman speed and strength that Greedo is killed from the impact.
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#197992
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Kate Beckinsale enters Wonder Woman role race
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197992/action/topic#197992
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Originally posted by: Bossk
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
I THINK THAT EVERYBODY IS MISSING THE POINT. WE SHOULD BE WORRYING WHO THEY ARE GOING TO CAST. WE SHOULD BE WORRYING WHY THEY ARE EVEN MAKING THIS MOVIE. THIS HAS "FLOP" WRITTEN ALL OVER IT.


Agreed. Catwoman and Elektra, anyone?


After the Star Wars prequel trilogy, those two films were the epitome of shit. There's a good chance the Wonder Woman film might bomb, but there's no way it could possibly be worse than Catwoman and/or Elektra.
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#197910
Topic
Kate Beckinsale enters Wonder Woman role race
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197910/action/topic#197910
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
Originally posted by: JediSage
Personally I think that the ex-wrestler Chyna would be perfect for the role...


I DON'T THINK HER HE-MAN VOICE WOULD LEND ITSELF WELL TO THE ROLE.


I agree. I was half-joking. If they could somehow dub her voice without it sounding or looking like a 70's martial arts Japanese import she would definitely look the part.


Lucy Lawless should be Wonder Woman, even if she is almost 40 years old.
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#197850
Topic
So who here knows of the Nibelungenlied?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197850/action/topic#197850
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The Nibelungenlied is an epic poem in Middle High German that takes Burgundian kings as its subject matter. It is the work of an anonymous poet from the Danube, dating from about 1190/1200. He re-worked various pre-Christian Germanic heroic motifs and oral traditions into a work of courtly poetry.

An early critic labelled it a German "Iliad", arguing that, like the Greek epic, it goes back to the remotest times and unites the monumental fragments of half-forgotten myths and historical personages into a poem that is essentially national in character. While beginning with a preface promising to tell of high times and lamenting alike, the Nibelungenlied is mostly pervaded by deep tragedy.

There is also an Old Norse counterpart, known as the Völsunga saga. In this, the adventures of Sigurd, (the Scandinavian equivalent of the Germanic Siegfried, the hero of the Nibelungenlied), and his ancestors are told in detail tracing his ancestry back to Odin.

The word Nibelung has several meanings, referring to the Burgundian kings portrayed in the poem, to the followers of Siegfried, and to a legendary race of Germanic dwarfs.

Time and place
One of the main problems of the Nibelungenlied lies in its transmission of a Germanic subject matter. It has been handed down over a long time in a certain poetic language aiming at an audience that already knew the epics of King Arthur's court by Hartmann von Aue – a completely different kind of literature emphasizing detailed Christian chivalrous ethics. Accordingly, the Nibelungenlied has been inopportune from the beginning. Furthermore, with its long Germanic lines it differs formally from contemporary courtly literature, such as Hartmann von Aue, Gottfried von Strassburg and Wolfram von Eschenbach.

Despite its contradictions, the poet puts the Germanic characters into a Christian noble context. Consequently, Siegfried changes from a dragon killer to a shy courting man who will express his love to Kriemhild explicitly only after he has won the friendship of the Burgundian kings Gunther, Gernot and Giselher. Some situations, which exaggerate the conflict between the Germanic migrations and the chivalrous ethics (such as Gunther's embarrassing wedding night with Brunhild) may be interpreted as irony. The notoriously bloody end that leaves no hope for reconciliation is also far removed from the happy ending of courtly epics.

Despite the inevitable breaks, the merit of the poet of the Nibelungenlied does not only lie in the tradition of the epic. Several scenes testify to a dense atmosphere and psychology of the characters.

While the first half of the saga depicts the world with references to Niflheim and the Land of the Nibelungs, the second half is filled with references to specific European places (Vienna, Bechlaren, Hungary, the Danube). Most of the story takes place in Burgundy, at the capital of Worms, where Kriemhild and her family live. Sigfried comes from Xanten, which is considered in the story to be part of the Netherlands. Attila the Hun (here called Etzel) is said to have resided in Etzelburg (Etzel's land), and is only a general reference to the realms of Attila the Hun.

Synopsis
Siegfried is crown prince of Xanten, and has accomplished many feats, including the slaying of the dragon Fafnir and the taking of a giant hoard of treasure. After killing the dragon, he bathes in its blood, making him invulnerable. Unfortunately for him, while he is bathing, a leaf falls off a linden tree above him and covers part of his skin, making that particular patch his weak spot, as with the story of Achilles's heel.

Siegfried proposes to Kriemhild, the beautiful sister of Gunther, Gernot and Giselher, three Burgundian kings. He is allowed to marry her after he helps Gunther to defeat Brünhild, the queen of Iceland, with his heroic strength and the aid of a cloak which lets him become invisible. Brünhild becomes Gunther's wife when her great strength and unwillingness are overcome, again by Siegfried, who enters her room under cover of darkness to take her virginity, her strength, and her belt as proof of husbandry for Gunther.

Kriemhild lets the secret slip in a row with Brünhild, and Hagen decides to kill Siegfried. He finds Siegfried's vulnerable spot (see earlier) and kills him while they are hunting. Although it is Hagen who does the deed, Gunther and his brothers know of the plan and quietly assent. Surprisingly perhaps, from this moment on, Kriemhild is portrayed as increasingly vindictive and with decreasing sympathy.

Many years later, Attila the Hun (here called Etzel) proposes to Kriemhild, and she invites the Burgundians to a feast in Hungary. Hagen does not want to go, but is taunted until he does: he realises that it is a trick of Kriemhild's and that they will all die, but resigns himself to that. Their fate is confirmed by mermaids as they cross the Rhine. On their arrival, there is a huge fight (precipitated by Hagen decapitating Kriemhild & Etzel's son), and everyone is killed except Gunther and Hagen who are captured by Dietrich of Bern. (The nugget of history embodied in this is the battle between Burgundians and Huns that ended with the Hun victory and the destruction of the capital of Gundahar (Gunther) at Worms in A.D. 437.)

Kriemhild demands the return of the Nibelungen treasure, which has been stolen by Hagen. Hagen refuses to reveal its location as long as Gunther is alive, so Kriemhild arranges for Gunther to be killed. Knowing that he alone knows the location now, Hagen refuses to tell Kriemhild either, so she cuts off his head with Siegfried's sword. Hildebrand, Dietrich's armourer, then kills Kriemhild.

The Nibelungenlied and the Volsunga saga served as source materials for Richard Wagner's "Ring Cycle" (Der Ring des Nibelungen also known as The Ring of the Nibelung), and it has also been said to have served as inspiration for J. R. R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings.

Adaptations to other media
In 1924, the epic was made into a two-film series, namely Die Nibelungen: Siegfrieds Tod and Die Nibelungen: Kriemhilds Rache, by the German director Fritz Lang. The screenplay was written by Thea von Harbou.

The premise of the Nibelungenlied was made into an acclaimed made-for-TV movie called Ring of the Nibelungs (also, Sword of Xanten) in 2004. While the title is the same as the Wagner Opera, it relates more closely to the original lied itself. On the SciFi Channel it has the title Dark Kingdom: The Dragon King (2006).

The 1999 video game, simply called Ring, was actually inspired by the opera itself.
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#197849
Topic
Superman Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197849/action/topic#197849
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father

http://www.superdickery.com/images/dick/97_4_0000058.jpg


Lord, help us!

See what I mean? The Superman of old doesn't hold up well today!


The Superman of old has a better costume than the Superman of the 2006 film though.

That comic cover reminds me of this Max Fleischer Superman short called "Japoteurs" where Superman had to thwart some evil Japanese spy who was trying to steal an American warplane. Only in the 1940s...

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#197818
Topic
Kate Beckinsale enters Wonder Woman role race
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197818/action/topic#197818
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Kate Beckinsale has reportedly joined the race to play Wonder Woman in Buffy the Vampire Slayer creator Joss Whedon's upcoming comic book movie. The British actress is in negotiations with Whedon, according to movie gossip website joblo.com. Insiders claim Whedon is "very happy" with Beckinsale and confirmed last week that production on his highly anticipated movie adaptation of the popular comic book series will begin filming in early September. Buffy stars Sarah Michelle Gellar and Charisma Carpenter, and teen queen Lindsay Lohan have been linked to the coveted role - which was played on TV by Lynda Carter. Former hot favorite Carpenter even remarked she was putting off having a second baby in the hope of landing the dream role. She recently told a reporter, "I'd like to (have another baby) eventually, but I want Wonder Woman right now. I'm not holding my breath, but I'm crossing my fingers and toes and praying."
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#197817
Topic
Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197817/action/topic#197817
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Originally posted by: theredbaron
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Who's more tragic - Batman or Spider-Man?

Let me put that differently: which is more tragic, being powerless to save your loved ones (Batman) or having the power to save your loved ones but squandering it (Spider-Man)?


At first, I was gonna flat-out say Batman, but now that I've thought about the question in more detail - damn, it is a tough one indeed.

Conceptually, I think Spider-Man's tragedy was greater (being able to stop evil but not), but situationally, the slaughter of Wayne's parents before his eyes and being left with no parents/role models at all is more tragic in comparison, in that Peter Parker was old enough by then to look after himself. Overall, I think Batman's entire life is far more tragic as Peter Parker seems more well-adjusted to balancing his two lives, but in and of these two separate events (Uncle Ben's preventable death vs. Bruce's parents unpreventable deaths), Spider-Man's tragedy is greater...

Do you follow me?


Yeah, I follow you. And I'm very proud to have asked a question that my forum peers found challening.
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#197752
Topic
Superman Movie
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197752/action/topic#197752
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But Superman doesn't live in the Fortress of Solitude. It's more of a weekend/vacation spot than anything else, just when Supes needs to get away from it all. Otherwise, he lives in a regular apartment in Metropolis.

The American Way may be more Golden Age Superman than anything else, but so was the idea that Clark Kent was just a shell, a front for Superman's activities while only Superman was the dominant psychological persona, whereas the more modern interpretation is that Clark Kent is the real man while Superman is just a disguise. There's this qutoe out there "Superman is what I can do. Clark Kent is who I am."

But unfortunately, the new movie seems to be leaning towards this idea that Clark is just a non-persona again and that only Superman is the real psychological being, which sucks.

Originally posted by: Warbler
There will be subtle deviations from tradition. The slogan "Truth, Justice and the American Way" won't be heard; instead, newspaper editor Perry White says "Truth, justice, all that stuff." It's a nuance that could help bolster international appeal, at a time when the image of the United States is not exactly at its zenith.


I know I'm going to get blasted, but I'm am American and changing to line to "Truth, justice and that stuff" is political correct bs. Superman may not have said the line in Superman II, but he did say it in Superman I. Superman is an American so he should fight for the American Way(and I don't mean Bushes way), and we as truth and Justice. It is a classic line and should not be altered just try to avoid offending nonAmericans. If they get offended, too bad. The movie should make the studios more than enough $$$ in US alone without worrying about pandering to the rest of the world. And if your worring about offending people, what about the Americans you'll be offending by taking out the line?


Wouldn't surprise me if the line was dubbed into something different in another country, like the British accent gag in Robin Hood: Men In Tights, some countries had the line changed from "Because unlike some other Robin Hoods, I can actually speak with an English accent" to "Unlike other Robin Hoods, I do not cost the producters five million" and "Unlike some other Robin Hoods, I do not dance with wolves". Wouldn't surprise me at all if the line went from "I'm here to fight for Truth, Justice and the American way" to "I'm here to fight for truth, justice, and the human race." or something like that.

Can you imagine Superman delivering the "I hate sand" speech to Lois Lane?

Did we cover the fact that the actor playing Superman is too young to be returning from anything?
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#197605
Topic
Comics Fans
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197605/action/topic#197605
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Originally posted by: JediSage
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: JediSage
Bryce Dallas Howard, aka the Blind Chick from that travesty of a film The Villiage. She's playing Spider-Man's new love interest in the the new movie...I must say the blonde hair is a MASSIVE improvement over an already impressive look.

http://www.egotastic.com/entertainment/celebrities/bryce-dallas-howard/

Also posting in Beautiful Women...


Bryce looks ugly with blonde hair.


You need help man...


You need glasses
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#197603
Topic
BEAUTIFUL WOMEN NEW RULES IN FIRST POST (NSFW) UPDATED RULES
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/197603/action/topic#197603
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Originally posted by: maddog00
Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
HERE SHE IS IN ALL OF HER REDHAEDED GLORY...

http://img.actressarchives.com/bryce/00954BryceDallasH_Barson_4549684.jpg


Looks like Mary Jane to me. She should be Mary Jane. 'Nuf said.


Double agreed.


Irony. She's playing Gwen Stacey when she should've been MJ. (Being a red head)

Kirsten Dunst should've played Gwen Stacey but she's MJ. (Being a blonde).

Does it even make sense?


Nothing makes sense anymore with Hollywood. Casting a blonde to play a red head and a red head to play a blonde makes no f***in' sense whatseover.