Grand Admiral Thrawn

StarkillerAG said:

You’re probably right. At this point, I’ve sort of accepted Ady keeping the teddy bear dance music. I can always just pause the edit after the funeral scene ends.

I had some time after work, so I decided to do one more pass. Hopefully Ady sees the potential! 😃
https://streamable.com/n0zy8y

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StarkillerAG said:

That one starts out pretty amazing (I’m glad you aren’t saving the main theme needledrop for Rise of Crapwalker), but I’m not so sure about the force ghost moment onwards. It feels a bit weird going from a triumphant rendition of the main theme, straight to another triumphant rendition of the theme in the typical credits music.

That was my issue, I couldn’t get a good enough transition from the Luke & Leia theme to the end credits. At this rate, I think we are stuck with Yub Nub! I don’t want to derail Ady’s thread any longer unless he is open to switching out Yub Nub for something else. If he is open to it, I’d be happy to mix together another audio track or help him make a decision in what he will end up using.

Quoting from the other thread:

NeverarGreat said:

In all seriousness, I think what’s missing from the Yub Nub ending is a bit more of the underlying instrumentality that appears near the end of the scene.

100% agree. I’m not a fan of Victory Celebration, but I think the orchestrations give it that slight edge over Yub Nub, even if it is a ripoff. If some orchestra can be added to Yub Nub a little earlier in the track, I think it would be a happy medium. Up to Ady though! It’s his edit after all 😃

NeverarGreat said:

In all seriousness, I think what’s missing from the Yub Nub ending is a bit more of the underlying instrumentality that appears near the end of the scene.

100% agree. I’m not a fan of Victory Celebration, but I think the orchestrations give it that slight edge over Yub Nub, even if it is a ripoff. If some orchestra can be added to Yub Nub a little earlier in the track, I think it would be a happy medium.

I was just playing with the End Credits track from the ROTJ soundtrack and threw this together. I think it could work as a replacement for Yub Nub. Obviously needs some cleanup and polish though. Definitely feels more StarWars-y than either official version in my opinion. Maybe Ady will consider an alternate audio track for the Yub Nub naysayers 😂

https://streamable.com/xx3kjc

adywan said:

DZ-330 said:

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

That must have been written waaaay back, during the briefest of times i was thinking of ending it on the funeral pyre. The ending is going to be pretty much the theatrical ending. NO planets, no Hayden, no Victory Celebration. I hate the SE planet celebrations and victory celebration music. Victory celebration sounds so out of place musically. Williams just basically ripped off the original animatic guide track ( and didn’t even bother to try and hide the fact) and it sounds so out of place in the OT. The guide track was for a Native American mini series and you can tell it still has that theme.

Any chance on ending on something other than Yub Nub? Another Williams track perhaps? One thing I hope will be fixed with the planet celebrations being removed is the jump cut that has been present since '83 where the planets were inserted, sure you’re on top of that already!

Per the WordPress site,
“Remove Yub Nub & Victory Celebration”

Bye R2-RedDude!
Ady, you are amazing 😂👍

If Ady is up for it, maybe a different recolor of R2 so it isn’t as obvious it is a blue to red switch?

Plus, if you have a good TV that upscales content… there is pretty much zero difference in quality from films made in 77/80/83. Be thankful! I remember articles titled “720p is enough” for Revisited… 1080p is a blessing 😃

Following the 4-9-8 27 Rule:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by his absence,
the sinister FIRST ORDER,
an extremist remnant of the
fallen Empire, has risen
from a mysterious base
to proclaim that anyone
who seeks to restore the
ancient ways of the Jedi
shall be destroyed.

Acting against this threat,
the New Republic Senate has
secretly organized a covert
RESISTANCE, and have sent
their most daring pilot to
Jakku, to find any clue of
Luke’s whereabouts amongst
the darkening stars…

I think paragraph 3 helps to make this line by Hix hit a little harder:
“At this very moment, in a system far from here the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the loathsome Resistance.”

Okay I took another stab at it with the 4-9-8 max of 27 characters:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Imperial agents of the evil
FIRST ORDER, emboldened by
Luke’s absence, have risen
from a hidden sinister base
to proclaim that anyone who
seeks the Jedi’s return
shall be destroyed. The
frail New Republic, urging
peace, has failed to act.

Fearing war, members of the
New Republic Senate have
secretly organized a covert
RESISTANCE, and have sent
their most daring pilot to
Jakku, to find any clue of
Luke’s whereabouts amongst
the darkening stars…

EDIT: Must have been looking for too long cause the last two lines were messed up, now we are all good 😃

NeverarGreat said:

This is all to say that I definitely get where you’re coming from, but a lot of crawl rewrites I have to discard out of hand due to line length or line number. The 4-9-8 line numbers are set in stone for this project, for good or ill 😉

Last thing, I PROMISE! haha

In paragraph 2 you mention the “New Republic” but in paragraph 3 they are just called the “Republic”.
Lore nerds might go a little crazy on that so I updated those two spots. Each 27 or less characters for the line 😉

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
IMPERIAL FIRST ORDER
have risen from a sinister
hidden base to proclaim
across the vast galaxy
that anyone who seeks
Luke Skywalker’s return
shall be destroyed.

In an act of RESISTANCE,
a band of rebels with the
support of the New Republic
has sent its most daring
pilot to Jakku, desperate
to find the last Jedi and
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

Or if it makes better sense in the editor, just take out the line in paragraph 2. I think it works a lot better and helps to reduce the wordiness:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by the Jedi’s
absence, agents of the
IMPERIAL FIRST ORDER
have risen from a sinister
hidden base to proclaim
that anyone who seeks
Luke Skywalker’s return
shall be destroyed.

In an act of RESISTANCE,
a band of rebels with the
support of the New Republic
has sent its most daring
pilot to Jakku, desperate
to find the last Jedi and
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

I love what you are going for in the crawl, but in my opinion (not right or wrong at all!), I think it is a little wordy. I try to keep the paragraphs to 6 or 7 lines and 4 to 6 words per line to match the average length for the other saga crawls. I tried to make the text a little more concise but keep your goal intact:

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The New Republic is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Emboldened by Luke’s absence,
sinister Imperial agents have
risen from a hidden base as
the mysterious FIRST ORDER,
proclaiming that anyone who
seeks the last Jedi’s return
shall be destroyed.

In an act of RESISTANCE,
a small band of rebels has
sent its most trusted pilot
to Jakku, where a clue has
been discovered that can
restore peace and justice
to the darkening stars…

Still not a big fan of the R2 recoloring by Docking Bay 94, but the rest looks amazing! Can’t wait for the finished edit! Great work! 😊

Very poetic, but contradictory! In paragraph 2 the New Republic knows of the sinister First Order, but in paragraph 3 they are unaware of the shadow!

Maybe something like this?

EPISODE VII
THE FORCE AWAKENS

The galaxy is in crisis.
Luke Skywalker, striving
to restore the legendary
Jedi Order, has vanished.

Suspecting this disappearance
to be an act of war, a daring
task force has assembled to
search for the last Jedi within
the domain of the FIRST ORDER,
a mysterious faction armed with
weapons of the fallen Empire.

Leaders of this brave RESISTANCE,
sworn to secrecy by the fragile
New Republic, have sent their
greatest pilot to the planet
of Jakku, unaware of the shadow
now rising to extinguish
the darkening stars…

The mods when they see the post from @broshthejosh01
https://youtu.be/g_H3_g9PhnM?t=61

StarkillerAG said:

Another plot point necessitated by real life circumstances.

What the hell?! FOX couldn’t dish out more money so Harrison Ford could stick around to film at least one scene with Mark Hamill?!

Hopefully him and Billy Dee have some fun banter before Han dies.

It is starting to sound like these new movies are just a rehash of the originals… do the legacy characters at least get fitting send offs and keep their legacy intact? Like these new movies CAN’T just undo EVERYTHING from the end of Episode VI… that would baffle me.

Also, how are Luke and Han’s interactions? From Han being the skeptic to now having a brother-in-law and sister who are Jedi, I hope that is an interesting subplot with him coming more to terms with the force and how it works.

Hal 9000 said:

Luke has a baker’s dozen students, we find out.

How interesting are Luke’s students? I can’t wait for all the cool actions figures of the redeemed Jedi Order Luke built. I can only imagine all the cool alien Jedi, and everyone being included. It’s about time Lucasfilm gave us another awesome African American Jedi besides Windu! What if he used to work for the Empire but is reformed now?! That would be awesome, a Stormtrooper turned Jedi! What a perfect way to include diversity that isn’t forced! (pun intended).

Give me a Jason Bourne-style movie about a post-Order 66 Jedi trying to infiltrate the Empire, climb their ranks, and be a saboteur from within.

Hal 9000 said:

And the prequels have to just be done. I can’t keep reopening them up; it’s been a long time for me and those movies. My take on them has matured as much as it’s going to. They may not be replacements for the originals, but they’re complete for what they are. Although I could conceptualize someone doing a “half-assed” version that only gently adjusts the movies to a lesser degree.

I agree, yours are perfect and are the only versions I’ve watched since V2 when I first found them. If you never touch them again, I am beyond happy with what you made 😃

homelyjedi said:

DZ-330 said:

Now that the sequel edits have been done for some time…

Any plans to revisit the prequels (adding back the original titles and reinserting some small things back in) as discussed in the other thread.

And even more importantly, where is Hal’s Solo edit?!

in one of Hal9000’s writings, he (?) suggests watching the Coaxium Heist edit for Solo. i got the impression he wasn’t interested in editing Solo and that this was an edit in line with his standards. i’ve watched it myself and i think it’s a good edit.

I did download it and it seemed good! Only wish they didn’t add a crawl and kept the opening the same. The Battlefront footage sticks out like a sore thumb.

Really enjoyed this. The only thing I missed was the Vader/Emperor scene at the end.