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#291789
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Just wanted to cast my vote on the DS1 center laser topic. I say don't add it. Do we really want the DS1 and DS2 to look the same? The center laser on DS2 DOES give the impression that it's is more powerful than DS1, even if the number of lasers is the same. The center laser makes the two different and that's what I like. Please don't add it, just my opinion.
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#290094
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I don't know if a decision was ever reached to preserve the Jabba scene in the movie or not, but I know you were thinking about deleting it.


Don't worry, nohandluke, adywan has already decided awhile back to drop this entire scene. A good move I also agree with. Adywan has also restored the Han shoots first footage, Greedo doesn't shoot at all, and he's also made Greedo look more lifelike.

I know how you feel nohandluke I too am also a strong SE and PT hater. My love of Star Wars had fallen off the past several years because the choices Lucas has made, which in my opinion have greatly damaged the entire saga. But after discovering this thread a few months back my enthusiasm has been rekindled. Adywan has taken it upon himself to right all wrongs, clean up all bad footage, and make Star Wars as great as it always should have been.
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#288117
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I know it's alittle late in the game to offer suggestions, adywan, but I've got a couple more.

1) I'm in favor, along with others, to changing all English words in the film to Aurabesh. However I'm against doing this with numbers. Numbers on countdown clocks, target computers, etc, should be left alone. Numbers are universal and all cultures understand them.

2) I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before. Every time we see the Death Star computer tracking the the rebel moon base we hear the imperial targeting computer talking. But if you pay attention the time on the countdown clock doesn't match what time the computer is giving. Is it possible for you to fix the time discrepancy between the voice and the clock?

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#287943
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Doing the FX work for the Death Star battle is taking more time than i had first hoped, but i'm going to be taking my time on this section. I want it to be more in line with the ROTJ battle. So more ships and dogfights but this means twice as much work as i had originally planned.


This would be great, adywan. I've always believed the space battle in ROTJ is still to this day the best battle in any sci-fi film ever. Be careful not to add too many ships though, adywan. Remember in the film they specifically say there are 30 rebel ships.

Keep up the good work, adywan. Don't rush, there's no hurry. I'd rather your edit be done right than done quick.

Happy Birthday Star Wars. The big three-oh and still kicking ass after all these years.
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#272590
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Sorry to bring up the whole adding a "Vader/Luke revelation" scene to ANH again. I'm just concerned because I don't want to see ESB diminished in any way. I think most can agree that ESB is by far the superior film of the entire saga. It's as close to perfection as possible and it would break my heart for it to be tarnished. The Vader/Emperor scene in ESB is powerful and poignant right where it is. I would hate for it to be treated with undue respect. I'll be honest, I absolutely hate the prequels and I totally ignore their existence. I don't care about trying to tie all six movies together. To me there's just the OT and that's it. The PT is so messed up that it's beyond help and I can live without it. But I would like to see the mistakes of the Special Editions be fixed so we get the best possible version of the OT as possible. The story of the OT is great and I love it as is. The PT needs to be rewritten not the OT. Again I apologize for beating a dead horse. Maybe I care a little too much but putting in any kind of "Vader discovers Luke" scene in ANH is making me nervous.
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#271762
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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I see some people suggesting adding a scene into ANH that would make Vader discover Luke to be his son BEFORE will see it in ESB. I’m probably in the minority here but I am not a fan of this idea at all. One of the reasons I lost total respect for Lucas are his unnecessary changes that add nothing to the films and greatly alter the story as we know it. If you tinker around too much you could ruin an otherwise masterpiece. I’m perfectly happy with Vader finding out Luke is his son in the time frame between ANH and ESB. To change this would take away from the strong impact and the greatness of ESB. Not every little detail of the Star Wars story has to be seen on the screen and told to us for me to believe or enjoy it. Mystery and unknowing are just as fun.

I know Lucas has screwed with the Vader/Emperor scene in ESB and it doesn’t make sense anymore. I’ve read his is one of your reasons, Adywan, for adding a scene to ANH. But I’ve figured out a way to fix that scene in ESB with minimal editing that preserves the original integrity it once had and therefore negating the need to add explanations in ANH.

I’ve watched the entire Vader/Emperor scene in ESB very carefully, shot for shot, and below I’ve listed the differences in dialogue and camera angles between the original 1980 version and the 2004 DVD version. I’ve also listed my own recommended changes to the scene which I believe would make this part of the movie look much better and not look so ridiculous as it does at present.

Vader
-1980: What is thy bidding my master? (camera side view of Vader and Emperor)
-2004: dialogue and camera view unchanged

Emperor
-1980: There is a great disturbance in the force. (camera front view of Emperor)
-2004: dialogue and camera view unchanged

Vader
-1980: I have felt it. (camera front view of Vader kneeling)
-2004: dialogue unchanged (camera front view of Emperor)

Emperor
-1980: We have a new enemy, Luke Skywalker (camera front view of Vader kneeling)
-2004: We have a new enemy, (camera front view of Emperor) the young rebel who destroyed the Death Star. (camera front view of Vader from the shoulders up) I have no doubt this boy is the offspring of Anakin Skywalker. (camera front view of Emperor)

Recommended Changes: Delete the underlined dialogue and camera views. These new lines add nothing and are just stupid. Vader and the Emperor obviously already know who Luke is. Use a camera view that’s facing Vader for the entire shot while the Emperor is speaking so we don’t notice the cuts.

Vader
-1980: Yes, my master. (camera side view of Vader and Emperor)
-2004: How is that possible? (camera view unchanged)

Recommended Changes: Delete the underlined dialogue and restore the original dialogue from 1980. Again this new line is just retarded. Vader definitely knows Luke is his son and even speaks Luke’s name at the start of the film when the Empire finds the Rebel base on Hoth. I don’t think it would be too difficult to copy Vader’s original line from the Bonus DVD of the 1980 version and put it in your edit.

Emperor
-1980: He could destroy us. (camera side view of Vader and Emperor)
-2004: Search your feelings, Lord (camera side view of Vader and Emperor) Vader, you will know it to be true. (camera front view of Vader kneeling) He could destroy us. (camera front view of Emperor)

Recommended Changes: Delete the underlined dialogue and camera views. Same explanation as before, the new lines are unnecessary and don’t make any sense.

Vader
-1980: He’s just a boy. Obi-Wan can no longer help him. (camera front view of Vader kneeling)
-2004: dialogue unchanged (camera front view of Vader from the shoulders up)

Emperor
-1980: The force is strong with him. The son of Skywalker must not become a Jedi. (camera front view of Emperor)
-2004: dialogue and camera view unchanged

Vader
-1980: If he could be turned, he would become a powerful ally. (camera front view of Vader from the shoulders up)
-2004: dialogue and camera view unchanged

Emperor
-1980: Yes (camera front view of Vader from the shoulders up), yes, he would be a great asset (camera front view of Emperor). Can it be done? (camera side view of Vader and Emperor)
-2004: Yes, he would be a great asset. (camera front view of Emperor) Can it be done? (camera view unchanged)

Vader
-1980: He will join us or die (camera side view of Vader and Emperor) master. (camera front view of Vader bowing)
-2004: dialogue and camera views unchanged

I know, Adywan, that you’re months away from working on ESB but if you read the whole scene through now with my recommended changes I think you’ll agree this greatly improves the screwup that Lucas did to this part of ESB and you won’t have to do anything to ANH to explain the new dialogue. These are just my opinions of course but I hope you will consider these changes and also not adding anything to ANH before you make your decision. If you still want to add a scene to ANH, throw it in as a bonus or as Sluggo suggested as an epilogue after the credits have rolled by but please don’t add it into the film itself. I know my vote most likely won’t count but I personally don’t want to know Luke is Vader’s son until ESB. Improving special effects or adding technical scenes is one thing, changing the storyline is something else. The original trilogy in this regard is perfect as is, it doesn’t need tinkering. Just my two cents. Thank you, Adywan, as always you’re doing a great job. The trailer looks fantastic.

P.S. That anonymous emailer has some serious problems. Don't let him sacre you, Adywan. I love the original theatrical OT but the Specials Editions really piss me off. If Lucas can screw around with the films then so can you. In my eyes all you are doing is fixing the special editions. Keep plugging Adywan we got your back.
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#255964
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Hey Adywan,

What about using www.nasa.gov for planetary images? As crazy as it sounds, they have very high resolution pictures of planets that can be altered, colored, or manipulated to maybe fit the profile for this "rock planet idea."


I think this is a great idea for using planets. What about using our own moon or Mars or one of Mars' asteroid moons? Just shade them a different color so they wouldn't look familiar.
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#253889
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Glad to see the Jabba seen is gone along with the Rontos, I think it's the right call. I'm interested to see what the SW RD can add to make the Luke & Biggs scene better. Sorry about questioning the Empire's and the Rebel's targeting computers. I misunderstood the "correction" you were making, Adywan. Keep plugging away. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
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#252860
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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Hello adywan, I'm new to this board but I just wanted to say I think you're doing an amzing job. I admire your talent and I look forward to seeing the finished product. Put me down for a NTSC copy please. It's hard to believe that one dedicated sharp eyed individual has done more to correct most of the audio/visual flaws in the film than Lucas' entire special effects team put together. Why aren't there more like you working for Lucasfilm or ILM?

I have a few suggestions if you don't mind me throwing in my two cents. I didn't read every post so you may have already addressed some these.

1. Go ahead and drop the whole Jabba scene. Personally, I never liked it. I doesn't work for the film and it wasn't necessary to the story. It also diminishes Jabba's pressence in ROTJ.

2. I'd drop the Luke and Biggs scene in the hanger as well. It's another unnecessary change that adds nothing to the story.

3. Could you eliminate the blood around Walrus-Man's arm after Kenobi cut it off? Maybe add some burns around the shoulder as well. It makes more sense that lightsaber wounds would be cauterized.

4. Could you perhaps change Kenobi's Krayt Dragon call back to the original sound or even use a new sound altogether? The current whistle doesn't work for me. I don't buy that a giant lizard the size of a dinasuar would whistle. I wouldn't be afraid of that whistle sound.

5. Lucas censored the shootout in the detention block with the officers. Could you restore the original footage?

6. Would it be possible to 'fix' the Dewbacks and the Sandtroopers riding on them in the desert? They don't move very naturally. It currently looks kinda phony and cartoony.

7. Where do you stand on the rings of fire around the explosions of Alderaan and the Death Star? I don't care for these myself. It looks to me like an imitation from Star Trek 6.

8. The Death Star plans that are downloaded from R2-D2 look dated and cheesy. Any chance you could update them to look more modern?

These are just my opinions of course and you don't have to listen to me. I, like almost everyone else here, just want the OT to be as perfect as it possibly can be.

There are a couple changes that you've made that I'm unsure of.

Are you certain the Rebel Base computer tracking the Death Star needed to be corrected? I don't think anything was wrong with either the way the Death Star was tracking the Yavin moon or the way the Rebel Base was tracking the Death Star. If you look closely, they both show the Death Star orbiting counter clockwise around Yavin. For the Imperials the Death Star is tracking the Rebel moon BEHIND the planet. For the Rebels the Death Star is the little red circle, the big blue circle is their moon. There is no contradiction, they both show the same perspective.

Also, are you sure it's necessary to have a Super Star Destroyer present at the battle of Yavin? First, I always assumed Vader had a customized TIE fighter with hyperdrive so seeing him fly off into space alone never bothered me. Second, I always thought Super Star Destroyers were built in the timefram between ANH and ESB, none existed before then. Third, when the Death Star was destroyed a Star Destroyer could just launch wave after wave of TIE fighters and TIE bombers to wipeout the Rebel Base. The Rebels lost alot of ships and men, there's no way they would be able to put up a defense. I apologize if it sounds like I'm nit picking. I just don't think either of these changes were needed.

Keep up the good work, adywan. I wish I was as gifted as you and had a sophisticated enough computer to attempt what you're doing. Peace.