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#672191
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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I know Valorum wasn't a Jedi, the point is to imply that Valorum, Sifo Dyas, and Plagueis are the same person. If dooku were sifo dyas it wouldn't make sense because he says "how could the Jedi come up with an army so quickly?" If he ordered the army, his statement is superfluous. If it were just any Jedi like qui gon, what authority do they have to speak to the cloners for the whole republic? See what I mean? If Sifo Dyas is Valorum, it is at least more believable that they would make the army without needing to ask questions. Not too mention if qui gon were sifo dyas, his master Dooku would be aware of what was going on. Like I said, this way settles a lot of contradictions and adds some depth.

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#672183
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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread
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Hey Guys, just want to say I am a huge fan of the forum, and am glad to be joining.

 

So, I had an idea that could add an illusion of depth to the prequels as a whole when watched together. 3 characters contributed very little to the story accept to say "mystery." Chancellor Valorum, Sifo Dyas, and Darth Plagueis. It seems to me that these 3 characters should be merged into one. It makes no sense that sifo dyas (whoever he is) should go to Kamino and say "hey the republic needs an army, help me out would you?" Nobody checks?  They just do it? It would make sense if Sifo Dyas was chancellor Valorum. He was chancellor and a Jedi, his word would be trustworthy on its own merit. This also gives an element of reason  to the "negotiations" in episode 1. If the Jedi had not gone to Naboo, it is conceivable that the separatist movement could have started there, with dooku becoming involved later. As we saw in the theatrical cut, forcing the Nemodians off of Naboo served as the catalyst for the separatist movement. So either way, the outcome would have been the same if the intention was gain power. If Valorum were Plagueis, the events of episode 1 could be seen as Master V Apprentice. Palpatine wants to overtake the republic by force, his master from within with cunning. Valorum sends the Jedi to isolate Sidious which ultimately forces the formation of the Separatist movement. He then orders the army after the events of TPM, later to be killed by his apprentice in his sleep. Having Valorum be plagueis is also an interesting reveal as the Sith have been present and in power all along. The point to this being, the Jedi are fallen already, this is why they need a chosen one, are blind, etc. If the Jedi are good, the story makes no sense. The interesting thing about this is that all it requires is a change to TPM's opening crawl (to mention Sifo Dyas Valorum) and possibly a flashback during the opera scene in ROTS. ("he could use the force to create life" flash to Kamino.) Also, we see Qui Gon talk to Valorum in TPM (maybe thats why Qui Gon can merge with the force? It just seems that this subtle change could give some internal consistency.

 

What do you guys think?