Gimpy

Could I get a link?

If you integrated canto bight into your new matte painting (the top half is the snow covered military installation) the bottom is Canto Bight, you could use some of the kajimi footage (where imperials are terrorizing civilians) to show that there is a kind of zone between the two biomes of the planet.

That is a good suggestion NeverarGreat.

sade1212 said:

The above post is severely Poe’s Law-ing me.

Nobody is Poe’s Law-ing. This is the radical redux thread. If you don’t like something, just ignore it, no need to be a dick.

snooker said:

RogueLeader said:

Later, Hux gives his speech and then we see the fleet jump away into hyperspace.

https://streamable.com/ytkl0t

Scene test!

Now, I really don’t know how to handle the Resistance briefing scene. All I’ve managed to do is change Poe’s line from “Lower the shield, destroy that oscillator, and blow up their big gun” to “…blow up their base”

That looks great Man as always! You may not have to blow up the base until a later movie. Would it be possible to do a matte where half of the base is covered in snow, and half is tropical? I had an idea like this that I posted before about putting Canto Bight on the same planet as the Starkiller. It helps explain how

1. The planet is a base, not just another weapon.

2. The reason the 1st order can build this fleet is because its funded by the galaxy’s “scum and villainy”

3. It plays up the idea that the 1st order is the radical remnant of the empire reborn a la Nazis in Argentina. Their supporters live on their base.

would love a link to check it out. I posted in another thread some interesting fan art of a “darth Jar Jar” I saw. If that could be implemented somehow along with footage from the Ren vs Vader fan film footage, you could reasonably recreate some of the vibes of the “Tor Vallum” concepts from the Duel of the Fates script.

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/v230na

Maybe you could show the clone tanks, but with him inside? Maybe the dark ray footage could be repurposed with this art used for the head? Like in this clip? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlvqZNwhrM4

Was curious if anyone had seen this yet? https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/ladfr3/darth_jarjar_by_kevin_cassidy/

This person did an absolutely amazing job at a Darth Jar Jar fan art. If we could put this head onto dark rey, we could have an awesome darth Jar Jar shot, maybe even put him in the Snoke tanks? This could be used as a subtle way to tie in the prequels/plagueis/the Darth Jar Jar fan theory.

I really think George wanted the dark side equivalent of the Yoda character, and that was supposed to be Jar Jar.

I would love a link to check this out man. Sounds awesome.

I used RTX voice to isolate Harrison Ford dialogue from other films to have him talk to Leia, you may want to try something similar. This sounds awesome BTW!

I like this idea a lot. It is an ambitious idea. If you want to pursue this, I would get a hold of Bradly Klein pn youtube to see if he could help you with a Snoke impression.

You could even keep the Krait sequence (since Luke looks younger.) You could probably re purpose some episode 9 footage along with some episode 8 footage to have Rey and Leia talk about Luke being dead. Confirm that what Snoke is saying is the truth, but then pull a surprise in the Krait sequence.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMj2bGpNzGoeypfFZFnnWNw

I’d love a link to give it a watch.

This is probably a long shot, but I was thinking that something like this should be done in the form of an 80s style Anime. Something along the lines of Otaking’s Tie Fighter Anime short would be the ideal way to get the DOTF script into a visual form.

The Mustafar shots are actually the work of the very talented Bradley Klein who provided the voice of Palpatine in the SW Theory Vader fan film.

Here is the source video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6erKGMv3hU

His channel is listed in the description.

I wish I had those masking skills. I have wanted to do something like this concept clip in a TLJ edit for a long time, but the footage simply did not exist yet to make it believable.

Snooker, John, and others here could probably do a clip like this, but make it more convincing. My PC was not letting me make fine tuned cuts, but i hope it did not suck. lol

I don’t think you guys could hear the audio of senators shouting, but here is a breakdown of what’s in there audio video wise.

1. the Shots of Luke created by John.

2. audio of Andy Serkis from heavenly sword PS3 “with every age that comes to pass, there is one born to greatness…I am the one.”

3. Audio of Anakin’s dream vision from the ROTS edit: Shadows of the Empire.

4. Spliced audio of Han taken from the film Age of Adeline. “The Truth! You never told anyone?” Leia: No! It was Snoke"

5. Audio of Senators in an Uproar taken from AOTC deleted scenes.

6. Spliced audio of Snoke saying Vader

7. Footage from the Vader VS Kylo Ren fan film.

Ok guys, I put together a very very amaturish mock clip, (borrowing from some clips posted, and audio from some games and other films) for a TLJ redux idea.

I hated the way the film portrayed Luke as the uncle who would murder Ben Solo because he sensed darkness. “Hi…this is my Uncle, Homicide.”

To me, that would mean Luke learned nothing from Yoda’s warnings about force visions and leaping into action prematurely. If the theatrical cut’s vision holds true, Luke learned nothing from losing his hand on Bespin!

Rather, I thought it would be more appropriate to do something along the lines of the bloodline Novel.

Ben (and the wider galaxy)discovers that Vader is his grandfather. This is the impetus for his turn. He feels betrayed by a secret kept from him by his family for “his own good.” (a similar small mistake has been the impetus in previous films.)

Anakin started on his path to the dark side by believing the white lie that he would be free to save those he loved.

Luke feels a pull to the dark side when he discovers that Ben neglects to tell him the truth about his father

Now Kylo feels the pull to darkness based on a lie of commission about his grandfather. To me, Kylo’s turn would be more thematically consistent, as would Luke’s arc (without tarnishing his character.)

In the clip, Kylo encounters Vader’s mask at Luke’s temple. It calls to him, as Anakin’s saber called to Rey. A paralell of TFA, a different destiny.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=10iZqlsqzmRrwi2mAL2odKVnMPRIJedAk

@Jonh would it be alright if I use that clip as part of a rough mockup I have of how Kylo’s turn to the dark side could be reworked in episode 8? That is some great work. It looks seriously legit.

I have a mockup where i am trying to visually imply that Kylo happens upon vader’s mask (not knowing that Vader is his grandfather,) and that he has a moment with Vader’s mask that parallels the calling of Rey. I also used a bit of a SW theory video (kylo on Mustafar) super rough and no sound, but might be cool.

idir_hh said:

NeverarGreat said:

So I watched TROS again a couple of days ago and took some notes as to potential edits:

• Since Kylo is oddly communing with Vader’s mask after Palps tells him he’s been ‘every voice in his head’, it might work to place this scene right after the opening crawl. The mask could be Vader telling him exactly where to find the wayfinder on Mustafar. Cut to him slaughtering the Cultists.

I tried something like that here: https://vimeo.com/417019357

I’m thinking of using the pan to Coruscant - 1313 footage - DOTF concept art and the bridge shot of Kylo Ren as Palpatine’s message plays across the galaxy, then cutting to him meditating on the helmet - setting up his search for Exogol.

I really like what you have done here, its amazing. Would it be possible using some fan film footage and some of your wizardry to have an interaction with Vader’s mask be the impetus for Kylo’s turn in episode 8?

I really hated the luke tries to kill his Nephew angle, and felt it would be more fitting that Ben finds Vader’s mask at Luke’s temple (not knowing Vader was his Grandfather a la the Bloodline novel)

I feel like your skills would be well suited to something like that, just awesome work.

SWOTFAN25 said:

Ok so this might be a dumb question, but is there any possible way to enhance the audio from ANH using AI. The dialogue for much of the film sounds like its coming out of a tin can. Particularly during the floating droid training scene when Luke says “You mean it controls your actions?”. I don’t know, it’s just always really bothered me.

I mean is this what this program can be used for? Or just music removal?

An AI model probably could be generated for that purpose if it were designed to do so. Unfortunately, this tool is just meant for ambient noise removal in apps like OBS. Turns out it had a neat side effect for our purposes though.

snooker said:

👀

“Hold on to your butts”

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kQF0gGXClmwZSrY1ot2xuckP6jg2kDHC/view?usp=sharing

this is at like a 30% setting and I have boosted some parts in Audacity. Just to get a general gist.

If your laptop has a 10 series pascal GPU, or a later Fermi 750-780 it should run, but you need to follow these instructions to get it working

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-rtx-voice-works-without-rtx-gpu-heres-how.431781/ (its a bit of a pain in the ass, but it works.)

@Tantive3+1 I’m trying to get a clip together, but I think this should be tried by some of the more experienced editors here. Trying to put a demonstration together.

It is remarkably easy, but its hard to keep detailed SFX intact without a hint of music getting through. Way more effective than anything I have seen from a plug and play solution, some scenes work better than others.

Ok guys, got some awesome news. Nvidia just released RTX voice, an AI noise suppression algorithm, I have just tested it on the Order 66 scene from ROTS and was able to remove the music. Trying to fiddle with it to see if I can keep SFX in place a bit better.

There are rumors that this can run on non RTX hardware, ; ) the net is your friend. Apparently it used CUDA and Nvidia just artificially locked it to RTX only GPUs.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Someone on Reddit suggested Luke being a ghost all along in TLJ. I suppose it would make more sense than him killing himself for a distraction without doing any damage he absolutely could do. It doesn’t feel like a necessary change to me, though.

I think I wrote a thread like that lol, I will check my reddit post history. Apparently there are a couple of people who have had this idea. I like it a lot.

But what if they don’t nuke the whole thing? I actually think it would be a good idea to keep Starkiller Base as a threat throughout the entire trilogy, explaining why the remnants of the New Republic don’t rise up against the First Order.

I thought it might be possible to take some of the footage of the supremacy destruction/hyperspace tracking plot line and make that a kind of ground assault on Star killer that is unsuccessful. The footage that would be the hardest to integrate would be the Han footage I have a feeling.

NeverarGreat said:

I like the creativity of this idea, but if the base were home to a large civilian population, it would cast the Resistance in a pretty terrible light to nuke the whole thing.

Yes, it would which would kind of reinforce the message of episode 8, about failure being a great teacher. It would be a very new spin on a star wars trilogy.

I was thinking that it would be an interesting idea to splice the Canto Bight footage/plot into a larger Star killer base narrative. Maybe the exterior shots of the base could be re colored on 1/2 of the matte to make a new matte where we have 1 planet with a diverse biome snow/tropical.

Rather than Star killer merely being just another super weapon, it would act as a hub of the Imperial Remnant’s power and population. Willing participants and loyalists participate in a Fascist regime because it benefits them, or maybe certain galactic inhabitants feel safer. The reason the Republic does not act is because of a potential M.A.D. situation.

Imagine setting this up in the crawl. A stalemate between the Republic and the remnant where the imperials argue “super weapons were bad in the hands of Palpatine, not reasonable people who just want safety that the Republic has not been able to provide with years of galactic rule.”

You could also cut in some of the kajimi footage from episode 9 (of troopers walking in the Snow,) into the Canto Bight footage to make an Imperial presence there clear. Even some of Snoke in his gold bathrobe would make more sense if you could imply that he is ruling a willing bunch of people.

If there was anything that was lacking explanation in these new movies it was an explanation of how the 1st order went from being portrayed as a small radical faction (like Nazis in Argentina) in VII to being the new empire. How did they pay for new ships? How did nobody notice a planet sized super weapon where Illum was? These new films require way too much supplemental material.

If you could frame Canto Bight as being just part of the Starkiller installation, now we have a super weapon that plays host to the supporters of imperial rule. The population knows its a super weapon, but since they are given bread and circuses they don’t care.

For those on the team that Rey should be a clone, could we somehow imply that she is a clone of Mara Jade? I remember when TFA came out, people assumed that the rock near Luke on Ach-To looked like a grave. What if we played into that idea?