I would love a link to check this out man. Sounds awesome.
I used RTX voice to isolate Harrison Ford dialogue from other films to have him talk to Leia, you may want to try something similar. This sounds awesome BTW!
I like this idea a lot. It is an ambitious idea. If you want to pursue this, I would get a hold of Bradly Klein pn youtube to see if he could help you with a Snoke impression.
You could even keep the Krait sequence (since Luke looks younger.) You could probably re purpose some episode 9 footage along with some episode 8 footage to have Rey and Leia talk about Luke being dead. Confirm that what Snoke is saying is the truth, but then pull a surprise in the Krait sequence.
I’d love a link to give it a watch.
This is probably a long shot, but I was thinking that something like this should be done in the form of an 80s style Anime. Something along the lines of Otaking’s Tie Fighter Anime short would be the ideal way to get the DOTF script into a visual form.
The Mustafar shots are actually the work of the very talented Bradley Klein who provided the voice of Palpatine in the SW Theory Vader fan film.
Here is the source video.
His channel is listed in the description.
I wish I had those masking skills. I have wanted to do something like this concept clip in a TLJ edit for a long time, but the footage simply did not exist yet to make it believable.
Snooker, John, and others here could probably do a clip like this, but make it more convincing. My PC was not letting me make fine tuned cuts, but i hope it did not suck. lol
I don’t think you guys could hear the audio of senators shouting, but here is a breakdown of what’s in there audio video wise.
the Shots of Luke created by John.
audio of Andy Serkis from heavenly sword PS3 “with every age that comes to pass, there is one born to greatness…I am the one.”
Audio of Anakin’s dream vision from the ROTS edit: Shadows of the Empire.
Spliced audio of Han taken from the film Age of Adeline. “The Truth! You never told anyone?” Leia: No! It was Snoke"
Audio of Senators in an Uproar taken from AOTC deleted scenes.
Spliced audio of Snoke saying Vader
Footage from the Vader VS Kylo Ren fan film.
Ok guys, I put together a very very amaturish mock clip, (borrowing from some clips posted, and audio from some games and other films) for a TLJ redux idea.
I hated the way the film portrayed Luke as the uncle who would murder Ben Solo because he sensed darkness. “Hi…this is my Uncle, Homicide.”
To me, that would mean Luke learned nothing from Yoda’s warnings about force visions and leaping into action prematurely. If the theatrical cut’s vision holds true, Luke learned nothing from losing his hand on Bespin!
Rather, I thought it would be more appropriate to do something along the lines of the bloodline Novel.
Ben (and the wider galaxy)discovers that Vader is his grandfather. This is the impetus for his turn. He feels betrayed by a secret kept from him by his family for “his own good.” (a similar small mistake has been the impetus in previous films.)
Anakin started on his path to the dark side by believing the white lie that he would be free to save those he loved.
Luke feels a pull to the dark side when he discovers that Ben neglects to tell him the truth about his father
Now Kylo feels the pull to darkness based on a lie of commission about his grandfather. To me, Kylo’s turn would be more thematically consistent, as would Luke’s arc (without tarnishing his character.)
In the clip, Kylo encounters Vader’s mask at Luke’s temple. It calls to him, as Anakin’s saber called to Rey. A paralell of TFA, a different destiny.
@Jonh would it be alright if I use that clip as part of a rough mockup I have of how Kylo’s turn to the dark side could be reworked in episode 8? That is some great work. It looks seriously legit.
I have a mockup where i am trying to visually imply that Kylo happens upon vader’s mask (not knowing that Vader is his grandfather,) and that he has a moment with Vader’s mask that parallels the calling of Rey. I also used a bit of a SW theory video (kylo on Mustafar) super rough and no sound, but might be cool.
So I watched TROS again a couple of days ago and took some notes as to potential edits:
- Since Kylo is oddly communing with Vader’s mask after Palps tells him he’s been ‘every voice in his head’, it might work to place this scene right after the opening crawl. The mask could be Vader telling him exactly where to find the wayfinder on Mustafar. Cut to him slaughtering the Cultists.
I tried something like that here: https://vimeo.com/417019357
I’m thinking of using the pan to Coruscant - 1313 footage - DOTF concept art and the bridge shot of Kylo Ren as Palpatine’s message plays across the galaxy, then cutting to him meditating on the helmet - setting up his search for Exogol.
I really like what you have done here, its amazing. Would it be possible using some fan film footage and some of your wizardry to have an interaction with Vader’s mask be the impetus for Kylo’s turn in episode 8?
I really hated the luke tries to kill his Nephew angle, and felt it would be more fitting that Ben finds Vader’s mask at Luke’s temple (not knowing Vader was his Grandfather a la the Bloodline novel)
I feel like your skills would be well suited to something like that, just awesome work.
Ok so this might be a dumb question, but is there any possible way to enhance the audio from ANH using AI. The dialogue for much of the film sounds like its coming out of a tin can. Particularly during the floating droid training scene when Luke says “You mean it controls your actions?”. I don’t know, it’s just always really bothered me.
I mean is this what this program can be used for? Or just music removal?
An AI model probably could be generated for that purpose if it were designed to do so. Unfortunately, this tool is just meant for ambient noise removal in apps like OBS. Turns out it had a neat side effect for our purposes though.
“Hold on to your butts”
this is at like a 30% setting and I have boosted some parts in Audacity. Just to get a general gist.
If your laptop has a 10 series pascal GPU, or a later Fermi 750-780 it should run, but you need to follow these instructions to get it working
https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/nvidia-rtx-voice-works-without-rtx-gpu-heres-how.431781/ (its a bit of a pain in the ass, but it works.)
@Tantive3+1 I’m trying to get a clip together, but I think this should be tried by some of the more experienced editors here. Trying to put a demonstration together.
It is remarkably easy, but its hard to keep detailed SFX intact without a hint of music getting through. Way more effective than anything I have seen from a plug and play solution, some scenes work better than others.
Ok guys, got some awesome news. Nvidia just released RTX voice, an AI noise suppression algorithm, I have just tested it on the Order 66 scene from ROTS and was able to remove the music. Trying to fiddle with it to see if I can keep SFX in place a bit better.
There are rumors that this can run on non RTX hardware, ; ) the net is your friend. Apparently it used CUDA and Nvidia just artificially locked it to RTX only GPUs.
Anakin Starkiller said:
Someone on Reddit suggested Luke being a ghost all along in TLJ. I suppose it would make more sense than him killing himself for a distraction without doing any damage he absolutely could do. It doesn’t feel like a necessary change to me, though.
I think I wrote a thread like that lol, I will check my reddit post history. Apparently there are a couple of people who have had this idea. I like it a lot.
But what if they don’t nuke the whole thing? I actually think it would be a good idea to keep Starkiller Base as a threat throughout the entire trilogy, explaining why the remnants of the New Republic don’t rise up against the First Order.
I thought it might be possible to take some of the footage of the supremacy destruction/hyperspace tracking plot line and make that a kind of ground assault on Star killer that is unsuccessful. The footage that would be the hardest to integrate would be the Han footage I have a feeling.
I like the creativity of this idea, but if the base were home to a large civilian population, it would cast the Resistance in a pretty terrible light to nuke the whole thing.
Yes, it would which would kind of reinforce the message of episode 8, about failure being a great teacher. It would be a very new spin on a star wars trilogy.
I was thinking that it would be an interesting idea to splice the Canto Bight footage/plot into a larger Star killer base narrative. Maybe the exterior shots of the base could be re colored on 1/2 of the matte to make a new matte where we have 1 planet with a diverse biome snow/tropical.
Rather than Star killer merely being just another super weapon, it would act as a hub of the Imperial Remnant’s power and population. Willing participants and loyalists participate in a Fascist regime because it benefits them, or maybe certain galactic inhabitants feel safer. The reason the Republic does not act is because of a potential M.A.D. situation.
Imagine setting this up in the crawl. A stalemate between the Republic and the remnant where the imperials argue “super weapons were bad in the hands of Palpatine, not reasonable people who just want safety that the Republic has not been able to provide with years of galactic rule.”
You could also cut in some of the kajimi footage from episode 9 (of troopers walking in the Snow,) into the Canto Bight footage to make an Imperial presence there clear. Even some of Snoke in his gold bathrobe would make more sense if you could imply that he is ruling a willing bunch of people.
If there was anything that was lacking explanation in these new movies it was an explanation of how the 1st order went from being portrayed as a small radical faction (like Nazis in Argentina) in VII to being the new empire. How did they pay for new ships? How did nobody notice a planet sized super weapon where Illum was? These new films require way too much supplemental material.
If you could frame Canto Bight as being just part of the Starkiller installation, now we have a super weapon that plays host to the supporters of imperial rule. The population knows its a super weapon, but since they are given bread and circuses they don’t care.
For those on the team that Rey should be a clone, could we somehow imply that she is a clone of Mara Jade? I remember when TFA came out, people assumed that the rock near Luke on Ach-To looked like a grave. What if we played into that idea?
I had a thought today about a potential edit.
When Ray is about to axe palps, what if we could rotoscope in Mark Hamill from the last Jedi scene (when he says see you around kid just before disappearing) color him to look like a force ghost and place him in between Ray and the Emperor within the energy feedback loop?
It would be a good visual of Ray being assisted by the last person to actually bear the name skywalker, and would be a satisfying payback is a bitch moment for Luke. He helps barbecue the guy who tried to do the same to him.
Just a thought.
Hal 9000 said:
The one that originally featured the line “never underestimate a droid”?
Yes, if you mix the tale end of that scene with “Leia and The Resistance,” you could essentially make a scene where in TFA they intercept a transmission or something, and then Leia sends Kor Sella off to speak to the Republic, to get help.
You could also use audio from the battlefront 2 cut scene of the palps droid. “Operation Cinder must begin at once, heed my messenger he will relay you to your target.” That could be worked into a modified version of the Jakku Message deleted scene in TFA.
“When Kylo and then Rey get flashes of scenes from TFA when they touch the Vader mask, Kylo should get flashes of Luke from Crait rather than Ach-To.”
When I saw the last Jedi, I thought it was just awful (and just downright unbelievable) that Luke has a moment of weakness and seeks to kill Ben out of fear.
If Luke learned anything from his duel on Bespin, it was Yoda’s warning after losing that hand!
“DONT fly off on a tear because you have a force vision!”
Given the footage in TROS I wondered if it would be possible to insinuate that Luke, Han, and Leia actually hid the fact that Vader was Ben’s grandfather, and this secret being revealed to Ben is what ultimately turns him into Kylo.
Ghosts in the closet have a way of coming back to haunt? Its like a parallel of “the dead speak.”
(as Anakin’s saber called to Rey,) Vader’s mask called to Kylo? To me, this would help both TLJ and TROS.
Since Vader was basically the face of Evil, brute force, and intimidation in the old Empire, our heroes could be forgiven for not telling Ben. This could also retroactively show Rey not to trust what she saw in the dark side hole on Ach to.
I had an idea for a radical edit of episode 7 that I’ve started to work on, where I have tried to integrate some of Captain phasma’s scenes from 8 into 7, specifically her duel with Finn, and some of the Rose, DJ, Phasma scenes.
(I dont have the vfx skills that I need.)
I want to take some of the Finn, Rose, DJ stuff and put that into 7,
ie Finn and Rose (both imperials in this edit) try to escape the 1st order together. Phasma catches them, kills Rose, and then sends finn to “re-integration.” Ie his mind is wiped.
So, is his interest in Rey real? Is it a remnant of a past memory of Rose? Adds depth to both characters.
The next time we see Finn he has his breakdown on Jakku, escapes with Poe, etc.
I would love to integrate Finn’s duel with Phasma into the destruction of Starkiller. (She escapes the compactor and tries to confront finn.)
To me, Finn being underutilized in both movies was a real downer. They had a real opportunity to show the Star Wars universe an unfiltered view of the Empire’s/1st order’s cruelty from a soldier’s perspective. What is life like for imperial citizens etc. they squadered it.
If anyone has a google drive link to the UHD copy, my Spleen login doesn’t work anymore. PM me. Does MEGA still have download limits?
VLC just released a major update. I don’t have any 4K video to test it with, but I think it was supposed to help with that. Could anyone confirm that?
Provided that your CPU and GPU are good enough. I am on a 7600k and 1060 3 gig and VLC still struggles with 4k for me. Leawo Blu Ray player will play 4k files smooth, at least on my hardware.