The scene in which Palpatine and Anakin meet in TPM, and the scene with Anakin and Palpatine in his office in AOTC, were both reshoots.
We almost got a version of the trilogy where Darth Vader and the Emperor do not have a scene together until the third movie.
What a mess.
All I did was lament Worley’s video, comment about how Worley has the ego of Ego the Living Planet (‘cause he does), and sarcastically restate one of his defenses. Most Prequel fans don’t take the position of, “The Prequels are good because they quote better movies”.
For example, Worley brings up parallels between Anakin’s fall, Frankenstein 1931, Bride of Frankenstein, and Metropolis. I love Frankenstein and Bride (haven’t seen Metropolis yet) and I think it’s cool that Lucas thematically tied elements to the movies, it doesn’t answer the criticisms of Anakin’s fall. Everyone knows that Anakin turned because he wanted to cheat death and became a monster because of it. That’s a great concept actually (IMO). Nobody was criticizing that, but rather the writing of Anakin’s path to choosing that.
Also for some reason Worley thinks that just because you quote a shot from another movie it means you’re implementing the themes from that movie into yours. Like when he acts like the droid factory scene is now about “the dehumanization of factory workers” because some shots are similar to “Modern Times”. Sorry, no, you actually have to implement that theme into the film on it’s own, without leaning on another film.
The Prequels are awesome because they’re stylistically designed to be that way.
The Prequels are good because they quote shots from better movies.
I was expecting it to be the Plinkett reviews. Nope, it’s the opposite lol
it’s the Ego the Living Planet of Prequel defenders
it’s hard for me to explain, so this video explains it for me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnjzVX8EKA
uh oh…
An idea I’m using for my edit that I’d be honored if you stole: Anakin using Padme as bait is his idea. Makes him more bold and calculating like Vader, and using someone to lure someone else is basically also his plan in ESB, which makes him feel even more like a younger Vader.
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Replace Vader “I am your father” reveal with Vader saying, “Luke, we need to cook”.
Me too.
Any ideas for how you’re gonna execute Anakin’s character and his turn?
For my edits I’m putting a lot of effort into making Anakin colder during his dark side moments and generally more reserved to match Vader’s personality from the OT.
I’m interested in seeing your unique take.
Is there a reason why more edits do not place Luke on Dagobah at the beginning of the movie? The opening crawl would need to be changed to indicate Luke was training along with cutting out his line about coming back to complete the training.
It seems illogical that Luke’s skills as a Jedi would improve without any additional training. I also found it hard to believe that Yoda would completely flip flop on his insistence of Luke to complete his training to all of sudden going with, “never mind everything I previously told you.”
I also find it stupefying that Luke would decide to take off while the rebel alliance is on the verge of their final battle.
I was originally gonna do it, but I’ve changed my mind.
It messes with the pacing. Having two very talky scenes right after the Vader scene doesn’t work. Luke’s mysterious introduction is far better.
Luke is likely self-taught at this point. It’s not ridiculous at this point after his lightsaber skills established in ESB for him to get better with it, and raw force power is not reliant on training.
Isolated from the prequels there’s nothing that establishes that Jedi training takes any longer then it does for Luke in the OT. And even taking the prequels into consideration, Lucas seems to mostly attribute starting from a young age to learning the Buddhist practice of non-attachment early then anything else.
Yoda “flip-flopped” because Luke had overcome the personal flaws that prevented him from being ready in ESB. Luke’s flaws mostly came from within. He couldn’t lift the X-wing not because he wasn’t powerful enough, but because of his lack of belief in himself.
Yes, I would love that Nev!
And G&G-Fan, the cool thing about this Boba idea is that there are a lot of little ideas I wanted to sprinkle throughout Act 1, but it is very modular, so other editors can pick and choose which things they’d want to take or leave for their own edits. They all would work on their own, but also will work great together. I’ll definitely share all of the assets once I get to that point.
What else would you do with your edit?
RJ, I’m still happy to try a ROTJ style Vader meditation chamber matte!
Ooooooooo I want one too!
I’d happily add the “Vader wants Boba Fett to capture Luke” subplot to my edit.
I would rather cut the Jocasta-Nu scene then the Dex one. The former is just flat and dull, the latter is dumb in a charming way. But that’s what my in-progress edit’s for I guess.
It’s funny because out of the three scenes, Dex, Jocasta-Nu, and Yoda, most people cut either Dex or Yoda when I prefer those scenes to Jocasta. At least those scenes have some personality in the dialogue.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
I’m attempting something like this, only Anakin would be knighted at the end of the film.
This is a very different concept tho, the idea here is that he’d end up being a knight for most of the movie.
This is to sort of minimize the issue of Anakin being too young through most of the trilogy.
Anakin is knighted in the middle of AOTC when the Jedi give him the assignment to look over Padme.
This gives Anakin a more mature, independent role through more of the trilogy, so you don’t have to wait until episode 3 for him to not be such an underling anymore. It might also make Obi-Wan’s concerns that Anakin isn’t ready more sympathetic. I think a major problem with AOTC is that you don’t really emotionally connect to either Anakin or Obi-Wan, our two protagonists, and by doing this is makes the audience feel like Obi-Wan has more of a point.
The only issue is it’d require removing the padawan braid from a lot of shots which would be extremely tedious and painful.
TBOBF was originally gonna be a subplot in Mando season 3 but then became it’s own show. That’s why everything so disorganized and messy.
What extended Jango shots?
What extended Jango shots?
This is a very fascinating concept. However, I think having him face Vader may be too on the nose. Could Vader be replaced with a shadowy-hooded figure that the audience could interpret as Sidious? I am not personally sure, but I really like the idea of Anakin confronting some form of a “demon.”
I definitely see where you’re coming from, as for first time audiences it could be interpreted as Anakin facing Sidious (as the prophecy says) and being killed. Either that or its interpreted as Anakin facing his dark side.
My idea was that I’d be a visual metaphor for the conflict between Anakin and Vader. Anakin, the passionate heroic Jedi, and Vader, the cold cruel Sith. A big goal is to make them feel like the same person by making Anakin colder when he’s using the dark side (scenes of him whining and complaining are gone), thus highlighting their duality (he seems so much more alive when he’s on the light side then the dark). And Anakin, through his passion for saving people, will be destroyed by his lust for power, the cold, mechanical Vader.
So in that sense, if you did replace Vader with a more mysterious figure, it would still work if that figure is entirely stoic, still, and cold. Because the point is that it symbolizes the duality between his passion and cold.
The idea behind the lines were that you could construct them by combining words from other lines. “As you wish”, “Captain Solo”, “Skywalker”, “I want him alive”, and “bounty hunter” are things the respective characters have said before.
Off the top of my head I don’t remember when Vader said, “will come for”, though.
Add back the deleted scene where Vader chokes Moff Jerjerrod, but he kills him anyway after Jerjerrod says, “It is the Emperor’s command”, and Vader gives a snarky remark, “My apologies” (from Rogue One).
Sets up Vader’s conflict with the Emperor far better and also gives us some classic Vader force choking just like ESB.
For my AOTC edit I’d really like to include something like this (made by snooker) for Anakin’s nightmare
How are you planning on doing the added Vader/Sidious scene?
Sorry for late reply.
Cinefy helped me create the scene by creating a deepfake of the Emperor.
I read it as her recognizing the guy who captured and tortured her and being afraid of Vader.