G&G-Fan

of_Kaiburr_and_Whills said:

‘Star Wars: De-Incest Edition’

Leia is not Luke’s brother- snip out all the pieces of dialogue that say so.

At the top of my head only includes: Some of the stuff Ghost Obi-Wan tells Luke on Dagobah, some of what Luke says to Leia on Endor, and the baby Leia in Episode III (which I know isn’t OT, but still).

None of this would diminish Leia’s role in any of the films and would remove the incest-y details.

alternatively just remove Luke and Leia kissing (both times).

that’s better for me personally. Leia being Luke’s sister is just too iconic and ingrained at this point. Luke and Leia’s conversation in ROTJ is so good and her being used as emotional leverage by Vader also makes it all worth it.

Episode 8 of Ahsoka gave us a perfect new Hayden Anakin force ghost. Just roto him out, put him in the scene, and you’re good. I might try and attempt it at some point.

your google doc doesn’t exist anymore

hinventon said:

With all the Ahsoka content out would it be possible to take older Hayden and make a new ROTJ ghost with it?

That Anakin ghost in episode 8 is kinda perfect when you think about it

This one has officially started. I’m doing these in order.

I’m really trying to figure out how to handle the first act. I want when we meet Anakin to be closer to the time code when you meet Luke in A New Hope, while also keeping the Otah Gungah. After consideration, Boss Nass comes out of nowhere if you remove him from the beginning, and I like the sea monster chase (I always like the creatures of Star Wars). I was gonna move it to the third act, but I don’t think things add up under the new context. I also want to keep the opening negotiation sequence, though cut down. I think it’s important to establish the Jedi as peacekeepers, not warriors, and I like the opening action scene. In the end it’s gonna be a question of what to sacrifice for the sake of pacing.

I think one of the best ways to make the Otah Gungah sequence and Jar Jar more bearable is to dub him with an alien language. I wasn’t gonna do it at first but now I’m considering it again. Last time I watched this film and heard, “Yousa in big dodoo this time” I was seriously wondering whether I was even watching Star Wars.

timdiggerm said:

I feel like, without Otoh Gungah, Boss Nass & Co come out of nowhere in the 3rd act

That’s also true. The main issue is just how long it takes to get to Tatooine. I’m hoping to find a way to cut it so it works for my own edit, tho.

I find it kinda ironic that you cut the bongo sequence with the sea monsters because the cool creature stuff is the only reason I’d ever keep the journey to Otoh Gungah at all. Just my preference tho, obviously you can do what you want.

As I think about it more, I’m debating the change of Anakin’s vision foreshadowing his burning on Mustafar, as I think it almost victimizes him a bit too much. Vader being born partially from what’s pretty much self-preservation, while still making him look selfish, might border a bit too much on him being a victim rather then a power hungry monster. The only thing is, short of AI dialogue, I can’t really think of another way to add the “Anakin wants to be immortal” angle, which is important to my version.

Is the reason you’re keeping Anakin’s turn mostly the same is because you think it was executed well originally, or because you can’t really think of any additional changes to make it better?

I think the one in ROTJ is better because in the composition it moves towards the Millennium Falcon thus making for a more dynamic shot.

WitchDR said:

Man, I just decided to watch through these movies again recently and it made me remember about this post from years ago! I hope one day you revive this project G&G. Your Return of Godzilla and Godzilla vs. Biollante hybrid was something I was so hyped about!

That’s funny, I also just recently rewatched the Heisei era.

I’ll likely revisit these. But I do know that I’m not gonna combine Return and Biollante anymore. It’s just too different and while the film might be coherent it wouldn’t exactly feel right. Instead I’ll make an edit of Return of Godzilla that’s more entertaining. Especially editing the Tokyo rampage to make Godzilla more destructive, taking shots from the Super X fight.

WitchDR said:

Man, I just decided to watch through these movies again recently and it made me remember about this post from years ago! I hope one day you revive this project G&G. Your Return of Godzilla and Godzilla vs. Biollante hybrid was something I was so hyped about!

That’s funny, I also just recently rewatched the Heisei era.

I’ll likely revisit these. But I do know that I’m not gonna combine Return and Biollante anymore. It’s just too different and while the film might be coherent it wouldn’t exactly feel right. Instead I’ll make an edit of Return of Godzilla that’s more entertaining. Especially editing the Tokyo rampage to make Godzilla more destructive, taking shots from the Super X fight.

That’s a shame. The “nooooo” scene is cheesy but the scene where he walks on the Star Destroyer next to Palpatine is my favorite scene in the whole film.

theprequelsrule said:

Would have liked Luke’s lightsaber to have been yellow.

Piss lightsaber

Would any editing trick help imply that part of the reason why Anakin joins the Sith is because he loves the idea of being second in command of the galaxy? It’s a way that him being rejected the rank of master could be much more impactful. He was rejected a powerful position, but Palpatine is offering him power greater then anybody but him.

Ngl I was listening and I was like bruh that supposed to be Temeura Morrison 💀

Not even the worst of TCW did the same irreversible damage to Star Wars that the prequels and Rise of Skywalker did.

Yoda, Obi-Wan, Plo-Koon, Mace Windu, Ki-Adi Mundi.

I believe you are referring to “The Hidden Planet” fan-edit

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Episode-II-The-Hidden-Planet-1956/id/101823

As a way of showing Anakin’s lust for immortality in his own right (as an additional motive for him turning), AI some lines from Ian McDiarmid. Something like, “I know deep down, my boy, you crave the power to live forever. You crave it just as much as I do. As any Sith.”

Through deepfaking and inserts, have a scene showing Anakin looking through ancient Sith texts and holocrons to find out if the Sith ever actually cheated death.

Maybe try to use footage of a Sith wayfinder as a Sith holocron, since those have never been shown in live action?

Vader: “If you only knew the power of the dark side! Obi-Wan never told you what happened to your father.”

I get so wrapped up in how iconic each line is individually that sometimes I forget to think of how they inform each other. The latter is obviously Vader leading up to revealing that he’s Luke father, and it’s proceeded by him boasting how powerful the dark side is. The overall point he was trying to make is that the dark side is so powerful even he, a great Jedi Knight that Luke looked up to, fell for it. Implying that Anakin became Vader because he was power-hungry and loved the dark side’s power.

The OT implied a much more Walter White-esque turn then the one we ended up getting.

What was the original PT concept?

I’ve come up with a great analogy for why Anakin’s turn doesn’t work.

Imagine you have a romantic partner and they get into a terrible car accident. You’ve been in the hospital for 3 days and there’s a possibility she may die. You’re worried sick and have barely slept. Satan himself (for the record, I’m an atheist, but this is hypothetical) appears to you and says, “I’ll save her if you kill all of your neighbors, coworkers and their families, every friend you’ve ever had and their families, your entire extended family, and your partner’s entire extended family. This includes any of the children or babies.”

Who would do that?

Like, pact with the devil stories exist, but that’s just way too far. If he just showed up and said, “I’m gonna save your partner in exchange for your soul”, then sure, I can see someone doing that, even if it’s still not smart. But murdering everyone that you know for a deal that you don’t even know for certain whether they can or will actually do it, someone you know is evil and a liar? It’s just beyond stupid.

The only way it works is if Anakin has tangible evidence that there is a dark side power to cheat death and the knowledge exists to learn. Anakin should become evil, but not be stupid to agree to a bargain when he has nothing to go on except a story.

Superweapon VII said:

Or a full knight for that matter. Just another bit of OT continuity Lucas either forgot or ignored when writing the prequels.

“I was once a Jedi Knight, same as your father.”

This is one of of the places where it’s clear the two were originally separate characters. This is a retcon I like. Honestly I prefer the idea that Anakin was a knight in his own right, in fact I wish he was for more of the trilogy.