Gaffer Tape

Visually "terriable", huh?  Well, twenty years of fans seemed to have been able to get by on it without complaining, so there must have been something good about the original version of Star Wars.  I guess we'll never know, though, since the visually "terriable" version didn't do so hot at the box office and drifted into obscurity until the special edition came along and made it what it is today, right?

That's actually a pretty cool idea (in case you haven't noticed, I have a soft spot for dogs).

And speaking of pictures, I finally have a face again on this forum!  It was getting quite irritating being a gray head and shoulders...

Yes, but you also have to take into account whether or when Han killed his trooper.  The last you see him do is flip him over his shoulder, which may or may not be the end of the fight.  I answered Luke because I counted Chewie making the first kill followed by Luke.  But I do think it's a bit of a densely-worded question.

The fact that Dave Filoni directed it has actually piqued my curiosity more than the fact that it's Star Wars.  I'm a big Avatar fan (recently), so I was quite surprised to learn, after I heard all the bad press about this movie, that it was an Avatar director who had done it.  So it's been a slight interest of mine to watch it and compare it to some of the work he's done on Avatar.  Unfortunately, it hasn't piqued my interest enough to actually go do it.  I'll probably wait until it comes out on DVD and just rent it.

She's adorable, sean.  I hope you and your pup are very happy together.

And, yeah, I can definitely see how Yotsuba is from the same artist as Azumanga Daioh.

Oh, and C3PX... no truer words could be spoken about Crocs.  You had me laughing.

I don't know.  I'm hoping it might just die from the public eye entirely rather than this slow, painful death it's being put through right now. 

Damnit, I got beaten to the punch for once.  And come on!  Sister for six points?!  Well, I guess HotRod has nothing to complain about anymore.  ^_~

Who took out the second biker scout during the speeder bike chase?

Luke.  Just a guess.  An educated guess, but a guess nonetheless.

Well, I can't answer too much because I don't know everything, but ORS stands for Outer Rim Sieges.  And I agree.  Lucas's explanations for things in ROTJ, particularly about Vader's and Palpatine's motivations, make absolutely no sense at all.  Like, for example, if Vader really was trying to rebel against the emperor, why not take Luke up on his offer to "come with him" instead of taking him back to the Death Star?  Eh, it's all ridiculous.

Well, I don't really think there's any reason to shoot down anybody's ideas or speculations, as long as a reasonable discourse can be made from it.  Tiptup's right.  I too would like to know some examples of this happening.

Really?  Because I remember the image of the CG Yoda being in a featurette about Anakin.  The snippet in question was Yoda's, "Fear leads to anger..."  And it was presented without question, without any reference to it being any different than what we were used to.  Maybe there was some other reference to it that I forgot about, but I could have sworn it was just that one innocuous glimpse that got the fan community talking and speculating.

I agree with Puggo.  I've never seen the new E.T., but the new Star Trek stuff has never done anything but annoy me.  It just really gets on my nerves that people just can't leave these things alone.  But, as far as I can see, it really has nothing to do with fixing things or creating new masters or making things look better.  If the new Clone Wars movie has taught me anything, it's that franchises only exist to keep themselves alive as long as they possibly can.  We are never going to stop seeing new Star Trek or new Star Wars products because if they didn't keep making new products, the franchises would run out of money and die.  Eventually, fans are going to become disenchanted with this never-ending cycle of new movies/TV series.  So what do they do?  Re-release the old stuff... with new stuff in it.  Then certain older fans will come out of the woodwork because they're nostalgic for what they grew up with... but the new visual effects will warrant a new purchase.

And that's what all this so-called remastering is all about.

Wow, you certainly do have a penchant for using the letter "u," don't you? ^_~

Whew, rcb and astromech, you're both making my head spin.  The first Star Wars movie was the first chapter.  There was never any intention to "start in the middle" nor was he holding back anything resembling the sequel movie plots for later.  He had a single script, one that had several completely different drafts as he fine-tuned the story, but whatever he was working on was one story.  And it wasn't a single story that contained the plots for what would later become ESB or ROTJ either.  As someone mentioned earlier, only a few action sequences, like an asteroid chase and a wookiee battle were later reused in the sequels.  But all this story about holding back episode numbers or having one big master script that was cut down into thirds is simply Lucas propoganda to make it look like he had the whole thing thought out from the beginning, which is simply not true in the least.

Doctor M said:

The point was the CG Yoda was PROMISED for the next box set, meaning there's still another one yet to come (though did we doubt that).

When was anything of the sort promised?  I could be wrong, but all I remember is that a line of a dialogue from TPM featuring a CG Yoda appeared on a completely unrelated bonus feature on ROTS.  While I do believe that's strong reason to think that they did actually redo TPM with a CG Yoda and that future releases will have that change, has the situation ever been directly addressed by anyone from LFL?  Was anyone ever promised anything one way or another?

Incidentally, considering the ROTS DVD was released nearly three years ago, one would think that this fabled new CG Yoda footage would have been released by now.  The fact that they're still pushing the same DVD if such a monumental change had been worked on (or possibly even completed) three years ago seems strange to me.  It's possible that they only tinkered with that for fun.  It's not out of the realm of possibility since they went to the trouble to make that dancing Yoda feature an easter egg on the very same DVD.  I don't know.  Maybe they're saving it for that 3D IMAX experience or whatever...

Hmm, I should look into finding one then.  Not that I'm a huge TPM fan (or prequel fan), but I still enjoy watching them on occasion, but the changes on the DVD version are just so... bleh.  I mean, the podrace bordered on boring at its original length.  It really didn't need another 5-10 minutes added to it.

And as for the Rebellion in ROTS, I never really missed those scenes too much.  I don't even think they were that important.  We know the Rebellion eventually gets started.  I didn't really feel the need to have ROTS explain it to me.  Not that I didn't enjoy watching those scenes as bonus material.  I just don't see how they would have fit well into the movie.  Plus, it's another one of those universe-shrinking things because Padme helps begin it.  I mean, how many more of these more-amazing-than-coincidence connections did we need?  The only thing that saddened me about losing them in the movie is that I felt bad for the woman playing Mon Mothma having all of her material cut from the film. 

Well, anyway, as lukewarm as I was about the puppet they used in TPM, I think TPM was the only prequel that had the right idea about how to use Yoda.  They actually used the puppet in conjunction with a couple of shots of CG where it was needed.  It was used in a wide shot of Yoda pacing, so it actually looked like he was there walking.  Then when it closed in, it was the puppet again.  That's how I thought it should have been done.  Rather than the complete CG Yoda used in the other prequels, they should have used a puppet except where necessary.

No, I don't see.  It's basically saying, "We're about film preservation, but only when it comes to films we like.  The ones we don't like deserve to be screwed around with because, let's face it, we don't like them."  Besides, there were plenty of special effect flubs in the original trilogy as well that we got all up in arms over when they were changed, only to hear the exact same excuses from people over in the TF.n camp over why they should be changed.

I understand the desire for a new OOT transfer... a high-class one.  But it seems too many people are clamoring for differences in these prequel releases, particularly for that new CG Yoda in TPM.  I know I've mentioned this before over the years, but, despite the hatred directed at that TPM puppet, isn't begging for him to be changed the very antithesis of what we're about?  It seems hypocritical and wishy washy of us to complain about more and more changes to the OT and lack of respect given to the theatrical versions when we're constantly hoping for changes to the prequels.

Besides, the first DVD already added in enough shitty, unnecessary material that wasn't in the theatrical version.  Lucas even admits this on the commentary when the boring, extended shots of the podrace are happening:  "Well, when we cut the movie together, I realized that these didn't really flow well with the movie.  But now that we have this DVD, I decided to put them back in."  Yeah, he actually said that...

Hey, I never agreed to those terms!  ^_~  Eh, well, if I must, I must.  And if I'm only going to get half credit anyway (meaning no more than three points a round), I might as well take a risk.

What aging Rebel leader was portrayed by Alex McCrindle?

General Dodonna

By the way, if I ever answer a question with an odd-numbered point value, do I start getting scores in half points?

ESHBG said:

Gaffer Tape said:

To ESHBG and Doc, yeah, I thought about that too. It would seem very much like Lucas to try to bury news about an OOT release in order to sabotage it. But once again, think about the GOUT. I know occasionally they tried to pass off as the big selling point the fact that they were individually released, but all kinds of ads pointed to the fact that they were being released with the theatrical versions. So whatever George's exact feelings on a release of the OOT is, it didn't keep LFL's mouth shut back in 2006, so I really don't believe we can expect that this time around either. If there was a big, new transfer of the OOT, we would have heard about it by now.

Yeah but don't forget that a HUGE proponent of the OOT is no longer working at LFL.  I imagine all of the fuss was because of him being there and he was able to help create said fuss over the product.  Now that he is gone, though...

 

Which just proves my point even further that there's not going to be anything new to this trilogy boxset.  These aren't the droids you're looking for.

At the same time, though, you have to admit that it's nice that at least somebody's paying attention to Luke/Han/Leia what with all the attention on the prequel era right now.

Yep, Ziz is right.  In Lucas's original twelve movie plan, each film would tackle another aspect of the universe, under different directors, following different characters, and not necessarily in chronological order, even though the movies would still be numbered.  The shooting script for Star Wars was titled:  "The Adventures of Luke Starkiller As Told in The Journal of the Whills Chapter One The Star Wars" or something similar.  It just wouldn't have mattered what the numbers were in term of chronology.  It would have been similar to The Chronicles of Narnia before they went back and f'ed up the numbering of that series.

However, as to your question, Jenny.  I'm glad those restrictive episode numberings are there as it provides something of a lock to keep from making any more movies and ruining Star Wars even further.  I mean, even that doesn't matter, as The Clone Wars proves and both the new TV series. 

HotRod said:

Errr  Gaffer got the easiest question ever...and for 6 points!!!!

:)

 

Yes, I'm competitive and a sore loser!!  Ha

Well, I wish I could say I was sorry and actually mean it, but... ^_~

But anyway, HotRod's right.  It does seem to me like the midrange point questions actually seem quite a bit harder than the high point questions most of the time.  You said that point values are totally random?

To ESHBG and Doc, yeah, I thought about that too.  It would seem very much like Lucas to try to bury news about an OOT release in order to sabotage it.  But once again, think about the GOUT.  I know occasionally they tried to pass off as the big selling point the fact that they were individually released, but all kinds of ads pointed to the fact that they were being released with the theatrical versions.  So whatever George's exact feelings on a release of the OOT is, it didn't keep LFL's mouth shut back in 2006, so I really don't believe we can expect that this time around either.  If there was a big, new transfer of the OOT, we would have heard about it by now.

Wait.  They killed off Jacen too?  I knew he became a Sith, but I didn't know Jaina ended up killing him.