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#1354298
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Thank you, thank you, thank you. Oh, and who or what were the Whills?
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In regards to the Whills…

'George Lucas explained that he intended the Whills to be microbiotic beings who fed off the Force and controlled the entire universe. They were capable of creating certain destinies for people, such as the Chosen One prophecy. In Lucas’s view, all living things were only vessels for the Whills to travel around in, and the midi-chlorians (first introduced in the 1999 film Star Wars: Episode I The Phantom Menace) served as a conduit. “The Whills, in a general sense, they are the Force,” Lucas is quoted as saying.

Lucas claims that, had he held onto Lucasfilm Ltd. instead of selling it to The Walt Disney Company in 2012, the sequel trilogy would have featured the microbiotic world of the Whills.’

^ from https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Whills(community)_

 

Though for Rogue One… as in the ‘Guardians Of The Whills’:-

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Guardians_of_the_Whills

&

Everything We Know About the Whills in Star Wars’:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uivBwp1CPTc - a 4 minute video from the ‘Star Wars Explained’ youtube channel does a decent job (for me, anyway 😃)

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#1353623
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Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Rick McCallum - Producer of the Star Wars Special Edition’:-

http://www.maikeldas.com/SWrick1eng.html - 1997 interview article

(^ for the 1997 Special Edition - re the print likely used for the 2019 Special Edition 4K release?; in ‘Question 3’)
 

a snippet…
 

"Question 1: Star Wars is a 20 years old science fiction cult movie. What was the reason for Lucasfilm to redo/rework the Star Wars Triology?

Rick McCallum: When it first was an idea represented to us by 20th Century Fox, they wanted to find out, if we wanted to do anything for the 20th year celebration. At first we thought putting it out maybe in 100-150 theaters for the hardcore fans. And once that happend, I started to try restore the negative and I also wanted to remaster the soundtrack, because for the first time in the history we really have a technology in 35-50% of the theaters out there, where you can actually hear it. And one of the problems at least for us, is that we spent an enormous amount of effort trying to create a soundtrack you can feel not just listen to. This is 50% of the experiences for us. Nothing is more frustrating when you spent millions of dollars and thousands of hours on a soundtrack that no one can actually hear, because of multiboxes, where the theater owner doesn’t care at all about quality.

So, again it was always gonna be a very minimal thing. But once I started the recreation I couldn’t find the negative in a lot of sections. Therefore I had to convert the film into data. Once that happend George desperately wanted to go back and fix the film in the way he originally had written it. He made so many compromises making Star Wars. It was frustrating to him and he was so unhappy with so much of the film, that this became a golden oppotunity for us to fix the picture in the way he always wanted them to be. That process became very complicated, very expensive and it became bigger than we were originally sending out to do. The negative was so badly damaged and destroyed that we’d lost in some places up to 35% of the actual color. It was often like a b/w movie. Once that happened we had a mission.

It was only 'till last year, when Independece Day came out that we ran a trailer to try and judge what the reaction would be, to see in how many theaters it would be proper to put the film in. But again we were only talking about maybe 200-500 theaters, because we got a little bit more ambitious. But the reaction to it was so huge, so overwhelming. Theater owners wanted to book it, fans were writing, calling begging. In some cases there were people who were going back to see ID 4 and if the trailer wasn’t running they asked for their money back. It was huge. And it wasn’t just in the States.
At first we ran the trailer in L.A. But everybody is weird there. We thought, well that’s just L.A. Then we did in San Francisco, Houston Dallas, New York… the same reaction. London, Paris, Rome… it was the same reaction everywhere. Then we knew something else was going on. It just became bigger than us. I wish I could say it was a marketing campaign and we devised it but it just didn’t have anything to do with us anymore.
 

Question 2 : I guess, you and Lucas talked about this becoming so huge. Star Wars was nearly forgotten but now, first the THX video re-releases, now the special editions and in two years the prequels. How’s the feeling for Star Wars today?

Rick McCallum: It’s big, it’s huge, it’s overwhelming in many cases. I mean… just opened last night and instantly it’s the #1 film for weeks. And it’s allmost everywhere the same. I think the reasons are two things. Primaly it’s a great story and has great characters. The most important thing driving it now, is not just the film itself, but the event of the movie. Star wars is a movie for the big screen and people haven’t experienced it for 20 years. It’s more like going to a rock-concert and having a collective experience. Very few movies crossover to do that. Star Wars is one of those films. There’s something that happens when the Lucas logo comes on. It’s like a license to go insane. You can talk and yet still follow the story, you can cheer, you can jump up and down. The other day I was leaving Paris to come here. I passed the theater at eleven in the morning and 1500-2000 people outside in front of the theater were trying to break in, 'cause it doesn’t open until twelve. But what was amazing, they were all dressed up in characters. There must be 500 Luke Skywalkers. That’s just a hard thing to do in a normal movie. Kids like to role play. They like to fantasize. There’s a number of characters that you can be. Nothing is more enjoyable for a 6 or 7 years old to close the door of his room and act to pretend he’s Luke Skywalker. Those are the things you do as a kid.

When I was young it was cars that I all care about. I used to make them, build them, rebuild them. You get obsessions, you have fantasies; you work them out and they stay with you for two or three years. But often for Star Wars it’s been lasting for 20 years for some people. I don’t understand them but it’s fantastic that it actually happens. What’s also unique and this is mostly an American thing: Everybody knows where they were, when JFK was shot, when Neil Armstrong landed on the moon and everybody knows where they were, what time it was and which theater they saw Star Wars.

These three existing events in popular culture define a collective experience. I visited Berlin on November the 8th in 1989 and spent three days here while the Wall came down. It was the most powerful three days in my life, because I never had to worry about Vietnam or the Wall again and I had never seen 100.000 of people. I felt so overwhelmed by the collective experience of being alive. It was an amazing weekend and I will never forget it. That’s part of what the experience Star Wars is. It’s not obviously political, nor have it the same meaning overall, but there is someting very moving about it. People share something and want to continue to share that experience."
 

Question 3: The scenes which were not digitally remastered, but only chemically restored are still looking faded or have a color tinge. You see the shift between the the new scenes and the original material.

Rick McCallum: Here is what we were talking about this earlier. One of the most frustrating things is, if you could see the print that stuck of the original negative that we have done - it’s perfect. It’s not perfect in terms of the colorrestauration, because we still have a long way to go. We will need to scan the movie. In propably five years, when scanning technology drops at a cost that isn’t so prohibitive anymore. Now it would cost 10-12 millions Dollars only to scan the whole movie. We just can’t do it. Possible we take 2-3 years to be able to restore the color back to its original. We did the best that we could within the technology we have today. This is one of the big challenges for us in the future.

The problem is, film is a chemical process and it’s like alchemy. It’s magic. If you do a print and the developer bath isn’t as clean or whatever it is - it’s very hard to stain, because it’s a photo-chemical process. It lives, it breath, it changes on every print. We are hoping to drive the technology to a level to distribute movies electronically. So we can incode in digital data the color, the contrast and the level that the soundtrack has to do. No theater owner can screw us up again. It’s not just the theater owner, it’s this bizarre process called filmmaking that is still so fragile.

It’s hard to believe that we actually had to restore a film that’s only 20 years old. Film is an inherently instable medium. It’s there and it’s changing every day. It feeds on itself, it destroys itself. But it’s not only Star Wars. The whole films of the 70s are at risk. With the success of Star Wars all the studios are rushing back trying to protect their films. They are inherently what gives them value. But I apologize for the shift. It’s something that goes beyond us. That is the thing what is most frustrating."

 

^ “Here is what we were talking about this earlier. One of the most frustrating things is, if you could see the print that stuck of the original negative that we have done - it’s perfect.” - Rick McCallum.

That’d likely be the print used ofr the 2019 SE in 4K? Either way, it’d probably be a great quality print to use as a base for a theatrcial reconstruction of the unaltered Original Trilogy - removing the fewer changes made in 1997 and inserting the unaltered version scenes back in and then matching them up.
 
If only they would release the 1997 Special Edition for fans on 4K media… 😉 It’d certainly be benefical to have all these differing versions available - if nothing other than to give the fans the choice of watching all the previous versions of the Original Trilogy sold to us over time…
 

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#1352206
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Harmy's RETURN OF THE JEDI Despecialized Edition HD - V3.1
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Posted up by Harmy in his Despecialized ‘Star Wars’ thread - and just thought it worth a bump/mention for here too…
 

Harmy said:

Hello, guys. So, as I said before, I’m getting this month off from work and I’m planning to work on Despecialized.
Now, the reason I’m writing this post is to ask you guys for donations. I hate to do this but as I’m a freelancer, being out of work means I’m not gonna be getting any income and right now, the VFX industry is kind of f*cked, because all filming has stopped due to COVID, so I’m not even sure there will be much payed work for me in the future. Luckily, if it comes to that, I can survive on savings for a while but I will have to cut any extra expenses, so I could really use some help with the software and hardware expenses for Despecialized.
Any donations to harmypaypal@email.cz are welcome and, of course, any donors will get their names in the credits.

Just to be upfront about this, I can’t actually promise any delivery date on Despecialized - I’m starting over with an all new set of sources and right now, I’m still trying to figure out how to properly work with the HDR sources and it’s a bit frustrating. But I’m talking to some guys about possible collaborations, including oohteedee and DrDre, so hopefully, we’ll figure it out together.

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#1352205
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The 2 Ewok Films - '<strong>Caravan Of Courage</strong>' (aka 'The Ewok Adventure'), &amp; '<strong>Battle For Endor</strong>'
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Drew Struzan posted up his ‘Caravan Of Courage’ film poster earlier today:-

https://twitter.com/DrewStruzan/status/1268630065299853312

‘Who remembers “Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure”? Here’s my original finished art for the poster.’
 

Some great comments in the replies - and a few more images too…
 

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#1351955
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<strong>Coronavirus</strong> (COVID-19) Pandemic thread - <strong>relevant political discussion allowed</strong> in here
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I know people’s minds are probably on other things taking place around the world right now (and rightfully so - are we allowed to talk about that on here?), though just for the record…
 

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1268299584117379074 - a 30 second video of UK PM Boris jonhson playing up his role, or ‘success’ as he likes to call it, with the actual facts of what is occurring.
 

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1268304147301965826 - a 90 second video highlighting “The UK now has more daily deaths from Covid than the rest of the entire EU put together.”

 

54,000 new cases in the UK last week according to the Govt’s own statistic’s body - and the UK Govt started trying to send many kids back to school on Monday (it hasn’t worked very well), and other people back to work, in an attempt to try and ‘boost the economy’ (in the style of ‘some of you may die - but it is a risk I am willing to take’):-

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/28may2020

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#1351951
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Disney+ Should Offer the Star Wars Original Cuts—All of Them’:-

George Lucas has been retro-tweaking the saga for years. It’s time to give fans every version.

https://www.wired.com/story/put-original-star-wars-on-disney-plus

^ 2020 article. I know the above article was posted in the thread OP, but thought the accompanying words below, also from doubleofive, struck a chord, and were worth mentioning in here too…
 

https://twitter.com/doubleofive/status/1257273173231439875

It’s that special time of year when we all come together over #StarWars & I shout about the importance of preserving film history. Hopefully I’m able to shout a little louder this #MayThe4th. #ReleaseTheOriginalTrilogy @starwars @disneyplus @wired
 

“The SE’s function well enough as what they should be: a side-project version that looks more like and ties into the prequels. They’re the movies you can turn on when you want to rewatch the whole saga, an artifact to show how artists are better off not changing their works.

But they do not stand up on their own as individual movies or as a stand-alone trilogy… they assume that viewers have seen the movies already, which creates a recursive loop. If these were the movies that were originally released, they would not have become a phenomenon.

Even if Lucas has lost his sense of pacing and dramatic structure, audiences haven’t. Fans forgive the Saga Editions for all of their flaws simply because they’re still Star Wars. But those movies wouldn’t be Star Wars without the originals.

That’s what they fell in love with. They’re what the Academy nominated. They’re what the National Film Registry deemed to be ‘culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant’ movies. They’re what changed the way movies were made and inspired generations of artists.

The simple fact is that the originals are historical artifacts that can stand on their own, separate from the franchise they birthed… Fans should be able to watch the versions that hit theaters some four decades ago."
 

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#1351814
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Which platform should I upload my projects to, to let people download them?
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Google Drive seems a good way for people to easily and quickly download content (and it is quite cheap for any extra storage required for hosting).

Mega is great - though for people who use the free version (without signups or registering) there seems to restrcitions on how much they can they download before having to wait a couple of days befre being able to continue. Though I think this can be bypassed if you joing one of their paid subscriptions / options?

I’d stick with the Google Drive - or making them available via torrent if you know a few reliable people who can seed them.

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#1351812
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Star Wars Original Cuts Could Be Released, But Disney Won’t Do It’:-

There’s nothing officially holding up a release of the unaltered Star Wars original trilogy. So why won’t Disney release them?

https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/star-wars-original-cuts-could-be-released-but-disney-wont-do-it - 2017 article
 

a snippet…
 

"For the last 20 years, virtually the only way for fans to officially watch Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi has been via the Lucasfilm approved Special Editions, the versions that were “improved” with extra scenes, “modern” special effects, and some needless extra shots. You know exactly what I mean by shots, too.

While director’s cuts and movie tampering is nothing new, it’s relatively rare that these become the only versions available to the public upon their release, but that has been the case with Star Wars. Over the last few years, depending on who you asked, the culprit was either George Lucas, who was famously never satisfied with the final product of his films, rights issues between 20th Century Fox and Disney, and the state of the film prints themselves.

Well, now it turns out that it’s none of the above. Disney could release the original cuts, they simply won’t. The Steelewars Podcast (hat tip to MovieWeb for the transcriptions) caught up with Lucasfilm president Kathleen Kennedy at Star Wars Celebration (where many fans, including this writer and most of the Den of Geek staff, were hoping for news of an original cut Blu-ray release as part of the 40th anniversary festivities), and asked if there were plans for the unaltered version of the trilogy.

There’s little doubt that under Disney and Kathleen Kennedy, Star Wars as a franchise is healthier than it has been in well over a decade, with high quality offerings like The Force Awakens, Rogue One, and Rebels reaffirming fans’ faith in the brand and making new converts by the bucketload. But that very success makes Lucasfilm’s continued reluctance to release the originals in the form they were intended even more disheartening. These are some of the most important science fiction films ever produced, and the fact that fans can’t own the best possible versions of them in their unaltered state is frustrating.

The unaltered trilogy did get one official home media release in the days since the dawn of the Special Editions, on the first DVD release of the trilogy in 2006. The problem is that while those were certainly the original cuts, there was no effort put into the release. Instead, they were considered “bonus features” on the special edition DVDs, and while the special editions were there in remastered glory, the original cuts were hasty laserdisc transfers, and of much lower picture and sound quality than what fans were expecting…or that the movies deserved.

This is why dedicated Star Wars fans have had to take matters into their own hands in recent years, with the famous Despecialized Editions making the rounds. For those who know where to look, the Despecialized Editions are absolutely gorgeous, HD versions of the Star Wars trilogy, without any of the unnecessary “enhancements” of the last 20 years.

Hopefully Ms. Kennedy will have a change of heart."

 
 

Or hopefully remember her previous words and thoughts on tinkering with classic films…

^ taken from a 2012 interview by ‘Collider’ with Kathleen Kennedy, which can be be found below:-

https://collider.com/et-henry-thomas-kathleen-kennedy-interview

 

 

Mod Edit: for additional information…
 
The full audio interview of the ‘Steele Wars Podcast’, conducted in a media line event for ‘The Last Jedi’ at Celebration 2017, can be found below. The section with Kathleen Kennedy starts at 12m 45s:-

https://omny.fm/shows/steele-wars/ep-131-3-star-wars-celebration-orlando-day-2-the-l (21 minutes long)
 

The relevant section of the interview is at 15m 32s…

Interviewer: “A lot has been said about the pass over to Disney, but Star Wars is film of changes… it has evolved over time. Uh, is there like, a contractual or a handshake agreement that the films are locked in their current form?”.

Kathleen Kennedy: “No, there is no-one actually locking us into anything. In fact, the beauty of this relationship with The Walt Disney Company is they have been absolutely fantastic at standing back and pretty much letting us do what we want.”

Interviewer: “Sorry, I mean like the… the vision of George’s final cut of the film that he left us with? Like whether that might be altered over time?”

Kathleen Kennedy: “I haven’t touched those. (both interviewer and Kathleen Kennedy laugh) You kidding? Those will always remain his.”
 

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#1351724
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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George Lucas Approved Rare Pre-Special Edition Star Wars Screening’:-

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news/star-wars-special-edition-original-screening-70mm-rare-lucasfilm - 2019 article
 

the full thing…
 

"In 1997, Star Wars fans were delivered the Special Edition of the original trilogy, allowing them to witness the iconic films with the best sound and visual effects imaginable, while also introducing a new generation of audiences to the galaxy far, far away. While most fans appreciated the technological updates, the films also featured a handful of narrative tweaks that differed from the original films in ways that were difficult to overlook. In the years since those Special Editions were released, George Lucas continued to tweak the films for various home video releases, though a special event over the weekend hosted by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences featured an original 70mm print of Star Wars: A New Hope along with Rogue One: A Star Wars Story.

“I just got to see Star Wars projected from an immaculate 70mm print,” one viewer tweeted about the experience. “The original Star Wars, pre-special edition (‘A New Hope’ was on the crawl, but otherwise unaltered). It’s an impossible dream come true, and I’m so extremely grateful for this opportunity.”

With it being unclear whether there would ever be an additional movie, the original was released without the “A New Hope” title, with the release of Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back resulting in the original film having “A New Hope” added into the crawl.

One of the biggest alterations between the original film and the Special Edition is that, when Greedo confronts Han in Mos Eisley, the Special Edition depicts Greedo shooting first with Han then retaliating. When the film landed on DVD in 2004, the film was again altered to depict the two characters firing at the same time, with digital effects manipulating Han so he moves out of the way. This is how the scene has played out in all subsequent releases.

In 2011, the Blu-ray release of the original trilogy offered more updates, such as the Ewoks in Star Wars: Return of the Jedi earning digital blinks. The last time the unaltered trilogy was released in an official capacity came in 2006 when a Special Edition DVD release included the unaltered films, though the files came from a laserdisc transfer of the film, with their audio and visual quality lacking compared to the DVD release of the Special Editions.

This past weekend’s screening might mean nothing more than an exciting opportunity for fans, but as the Twitter user noted, this is the first time there has been an official, public screening of the original film since 1997. However, with Lucas no longer having as active a role at Lucasfilm and with Disney acquiring 20th Century Fox, who previously distributed the original films, we can’t help but wonder if this could lead to the original films being made available to the public in some capacity at some point in the future."
 

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#1351551
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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An Uncut and Non-Remastered List of Star Wars Editions!’:-

https://www.tor.com/2015/05/04/an-uncut-and-non-remastered-list-of-star-wars-editions-2 - 2015 article
 

a snippet…
 

"The thing that makes Star Wars truly great is Greedo shooting first. Wait, come back, I’m being serious! The original Star Wars trilogy was an incredible cultural touchstone, and obviously Star Wars merchandise and expanded universe novels created a whole world for fans to inhabit. However, the moment when Star Wars became truly great was the moment in 1997 when a generation of fans had to examine what this film meant to them, and why it was so important that Han shoot first. This moment galvanized an already fervent fandom to, if you don’t mind me mixing my geek metaphors, play Sam Beckett in the SWU, going back to earlier prints of the films to put right what Lucas had made wrong.

Using the sort of film tech popularized by Lucas himself, the fandom dove in and started making new editions of the original trilogy, and then turned their scalpels on each of the prequels. Rather than accepting anything as “canon,” they made their own."
 

and…

"I saw the original trilogy, uncut and pre-specialized, at about the same time that I read Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, and a few weeks before I dove headlong into Star Trek: the Next Generation. I am personally pro-Original Trilogy and anti-prequel, but I come here today not to rant about that—okay, there will be some ranting, but mostly I’m just interested in how many different ways there are to watch these movies.

Plus, George Lucas’ own divided nature fascinates me, as does his fans’ reactions to him. Lucas wants people to have access to more tech, and Lucasfilm held The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards from 2002 until 2012 (and apparently they’re coming back this year) — Lucas himself bestowed one of the awards. Troops, which showed Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru in a fairly negative light, won the OSWFFA’s Pioneer Award the year it was released. And he liked George Lucas in Love enough to send its creators a congratulatory letter. So he’s evidently okay with fans mucking about in his universe. Which is great!

But then there are his thoughts on the 1997 Special Edition vs. the Original Trilogy:

“There will only be one. And it won’t be what I would call the ‘rough cut,’ it’ll be the ‘final cut.’ The other one will be some sort of interesting artifact that people will look at and say, ’There was an earlier draft of this.’ …[W]hat ends up being important in my mind is what the DVD version is going to look like, because that’s what everybody is going to remember. The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s, to go back and reinvent a movie.”

Which, again, I completely agree with keeping the studio out of an auteur’s vision! But I don’t think Lucas realized that it wouldn’t be the studios interfering, it would be the fans themselves. Over the last thirty years, Star Wars enthusiasts have come up with many ways to re-experience the films, some with official sanction, and some without."
 

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#1351249
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Info: Press coverage of Harmy's Despecialized Editions
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Apologies for the bump…
 

I was looking for some articles to include in V.I.N.Cent’s absorbing Articles & info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy thread, in the ‘Original Trilogy Discussion section’

…and came across these similarly related articles about the fan project work undertaken here and on similar sites, so thought I’d include them here. I’m sure there are many more great articles covering Harmy’s work on Despecialized, yet these are just incidental articles found from my searches for content for the above linked thread…

(and if I haven’t said it before, thanks and kudos to Harmy & also to everyone who contributed to making Depsecialized the totally fantastic project it is!)

 

The Czech Guerilla Restorationist battling to save Star Wars - Czech Radio, in 2014.

Watch The Original Star Wars Trilogy As It Was Before George Lucas Screwed It Up - Lifehacker, in 2015.

Watch the version of ‘Star Wars’ that George Lucas hates - Endgadget, in 2016 (also has TN1 SSE).

Watch the Star Wars Trilogy movies in their original form - Robservatory, in 2020.

A Star Wars Fan Is Restoring the Film to Its Original, Unaltered State - MentalFloss, in 2015.

You can watch an ‘unaltered’ version of Star Wars in HD today - Polygon, in 2014.

The Fans Who Saved “Star Wars” - MovieMezzanine, in 2016. (also has TN1 SSE)

‘Star Wars: Despecialized Edition’ Restores the Original, Unedited Trilogy - Vice, in 2015

Why Is The Best Version Of Star Wars ‘Illegal’? - Above The Law, in 2015.

Star Wars Original Trilogy Unaltered - Michael Deleon Photography, in 2016.

The Star Wars George Lucas Doesn’t Want You To See - The Atlantic, in 2014.

Star Wars — The Fandom Editors - Wired, in 2013.

Star Wars Fans Feel the Force Calling Them Back to Original Cuts - Wall Street Journal, in 2016.

Watch the original Star Wars the way it looked in 1977 - The Verge, in 2016.

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#1351243
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Making-Of Documentaries - YouTube/Vimeo/etc. finds
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darth-gary said:

Pink Floyd - The Other Side of the Wall (1982)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzwghOSwhK8 - Part 1 (9 mins.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BQJpW_A97Y - Part 2 (9 mins.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JueCk5modno - Part 3 (7.5 mins) - from the i love music! YouTube channel

as well as the rest of your great post too - thanks man; that’s my evening sorted for tonight 😃
 

(and a brilliant idea for a thread, ZkinandBonez)

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#1351242
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Articles &amp; info that highlight / call for a classic version release of the Original Trilogy
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Disney Has Acquired Fox; What Does that Mean for Star Wars?’:-

https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2019/03/disney-acquired-fox-star-wars-meaning.html - 2019 article
 

a snippet…
 

"Let’s start by clearing up a big misconception right off the bat: no, we are not getting the original theatrical trilogy. For those of you unaware, there has been a long-running fan conspiracy that Lucasfilm are set to release remastered, unaltered versions of the first three Star Wars movies (A New Hope, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi) before George Lucas went back to edit them any day now for the over two decades. In spite of that hope becoming more and more of a pipe dream since Lucas released the initial versions of the Star Wars Special Editions and their plethora of changes (some controversial, some deemed unnecessary, and a few actually praised), the belief that Lucasfilm are waiting for the right time to release the unaltered versions of the movies has persisted, and has gained new life with Disney’s purchase of Lucasfilm and Fox alike.

The thing is, ownership of Lucasfilm and Fox are not what what’s keeping the old versions of the movies from seeing the light of day in an official capacity; George Lucas himself is. And he’s repeatedly stated that he wants those changes to stay put. When he threw fans a bone in the early 2000s with DVD versions of the original versions, it turned out to be not what fans were hoping for when it was really just the LaserDisc version of the movies ported over to DVD, without any actual remastering of the visual or audio quality put into place. That alone should indicate what his position on his old versions of the movies are – in spite of the preference of the fans, he feels that the revision of Return of the Jedi that has Darth Vader shout “No!” and a celebration of the Emperor’s death across the galaxy far, far away instead of just on Endor is the definitive version of the film. Unless he suddenly changes his mind (and, sure, he’s flip-flopped plenty of times before, but this is one subject he’s remained steadfast on for over twenty years), we’re not going to get official remastered versions of the original cuts of those films anytime soon, if ever.

Evidence has surfaced suggesting that Lucasfilm have internally decided to remaster the original, unaltered prints – from of footage that made it to the theater to footage included as deleted scenes on the DVD and Blu-Ray versions and some footage that has still not seen the light of day – but it appears to be for their use only. It appears that this played a role in how they were able to integrate unused footage of Red and Gold Leaders into the final battle sequence of Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, or how they were able to include a slightly different take of Princess Leia’s plea for help in The Last Jedi to suit the shot that Rian Johnson filmed with Mark Hamill and Jimmy Vee. But don’t expect the unedited clips that were actually featured in the original trilogy movies to see the light of day.

The plus side is that, if you know where to look, Lucasfilm has seemingly agreed to turn a blind eye toward fans creating their own remasters of the original movies as long as they’re not sold for profit. Technically, distributing that kind of stuff is not legal, but it appears that Lucasfilm are not going to feed you to their Rancors if you burn these versions onto the Blu-ray discs that you’ve purchased. Just to be clear, we’re not encouraging that you do kind of thing and we respect Lucas’s own wishes… But if you want to see high-quality versions of the original Star Wars trilogy as it appeared to audiences in the late 1970s and early 1980s, with some visual effects mistakes from the old versions fixed without anything else being changed, then they are out there."
 

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’John Landis Says Original ‘Star Wars’ Theatrical Cuts Will Be Re-Released’:-

John Landis Says Original ‘Star Wars’ Theatrical Cuts Will Be Re-Released - 2015 article

https://www.indiewire.com/2015/09/john-landis-says-original-star-wars-theatrical-cuts-will-be-re-released-259706
 

a snippet…
 

"A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, George Lucas released a trilogy of classic sci-fi fantasy films that captured the imagination of a generation. But then, the dark side took over, and he couldn’t stop tinkering with them. For anyone with even half a passion for the “Star Wars” franchise, Lucas’ CGI drenched additions to the original trio of films have been controversial if not outright blasphemy. It has been a further thorn in the side of fans that Lucas has long refused to re-issue the original theatrical cuts, only half-heartedly including them in non-anamorphic form in a 2008 box set of the trilogy, sourced from the 1993 LaserDisc release (the quality was far from ideal). While this bit of news comes second-hand, it’s a brief flame of hope that the original movies will once again be seen as they were for the first time on the big screen.

Participating in a Halloween Horror Nights Q&A in Orlando, Florida this weekend, John Landis revealed that Lucas told him that Disney will be re-releasing the theatrical cut of the original “Star Wars” trilogy. That’s about it as far as details go, but it’s likely not going to happen for a while yet as there are still rights issues to sort out."

 
 

a 4-minute youtube video titled ‘John Landis talks theatrical cut of Star Wars’ (from the ‘Behind The Thrills’ youtube channel) can be found here:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWeDd7lfNsM

 

a few other articles on the same subject, from the same 2015 time-frame:-

Is The Original (Unaltered) ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy Finally Coming To Blu-Ray? - at Forbes
Could the original Star Wars cuts be heading to Blu-ray?- at WhatHiFi
John Landis Claims Disney Will Re-Release The Theatrical Cuts Of The Original ‘Star Wars’ Trilogy - at Inquisitr
Disney to re-release the theatrical cuts of the original Star Wars trilogy, according to John Landis - at Flickering Myth
John Landis Claims Disney is Releasing the Original Star Wars Trilogy - at FuriousFanboy
John Landis Claims Disney To Release Original Theatrical Cuts Of Original Star Wars Trilogy - at The Bearded Trio