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MathUser said:

Back in the days I was suprised to see this on shelves still. I bought it right away when it came out cause it was supposed to be a limited time thing. Is there a official reason it was expanded from a few months to 6 years?

The dvd’s were re-released as separate trilogy packs in 2008. Lucasfilm probably just wanted an equal number of discs in both sets.

I wonder, even if they were to get back to him in a timely matter, if he would even be allowed to tell us anything.

I would think Lucasfilm would want to announce something as big of a deal as an unaltered Star Wars '77 restoration on their own terms and not let the news just get out there via unofficial means.

We all remember how the blurb on RMW’s website about a 4k OT restoration just mysteriously disappeared not long after we heard about it.

I attended a free screening of “The Man Trap” at the Air & Space Museum earlier tonight with Rod Roddenberry and John & Bjo Trimble in attendance. They played the episode on the giant full-sized Imax screen and started it at exactly 8:30. I was slightly disappointed that it was the “remastered” version with the cgi effects and not the original version, but it still looked and sounded absolutely amazing. I happened to sit next to a truly OG fan just old enough to remember seeing it when it first aired, and as we discussed on the way out, the changes were at least merely cosmetic and didn’t alter the story a la Greedo shooting first.

Rod was interviewed beforehand and provided an introduction. The Trimbles joined in afterword for a Q and A. There were plenty of great anecdotes. Did you know Gene had to fight the tobacco companies and NBC to keep Spock from smoking a special green cigarette? Oh, and this was coming from a three-pack-a-day smoker.

Rod told a story, one that got me unexpectedly emotional, about how as a kid he came home one day with a drawing he’d done of his dad. When Gene saw the drawing and noticed the cigarette and smoke coming from his head, he decided he was going to quit cold turkey. Majel Barrett said he was difficult to live with for the three or so months that followed, but he kept to his decision. “No intelligent person should be slave to a little stick,” Gene said.

Speaking of Majel Barrett, apparently Lwaxana Troi was a fairly accurate reflection of how she was in real life. They didn’t write the character so much as cast her in the role and let her play herself.

If you’re wondering why I’m writing this at such an ungodly hour (aside from my sleeping schedule being kinda fucked), they were doing a Trek movie marathon on Syfy and First Contact just ended. Man, that ending with the Vulcans still gets me all teary-eyed. I’ve got vivid memories of seeing that movie on opening night in November of '96 while my mom and sister saw Jingle All The Way (starring, yup, Jake Lloyd). Meanwhile, I was seeing John Knoll’s vfx work. Watching it again just now brought me back to seeing it with that audience, their reactions to all the great moments. I still remember that very Final Frontier esque closing shot panning up from the forest as Jerry Goldsmith’s music swelled and the audience burst into applause.

I stepped outside to meet up with my mom and sister. “Oh, there was a trailer before Jingle All The Way. Apparently they’re putting the Star Wars movies back out in theaters early in the new year.”

And so it began…

I seem to recall someone thinking that the mustafarans working on one of the floating lava platforms during the duel were there in one version and gone in the other. Again, I don’t know if this was ever confirmed.

Was there only one U.S. theatrical version of RotS or were there differences between the 35mm prints and the DCPs? I saw both, but I wouldn’t be able to tell you now if, for example, the wipe was there in both versions or if that change predated the dvd. I think the wipe is back in the official bd if I’m not mistaken?

I’m wondering why RotS looks exactly the same colorwise while AotC looks drastically different.

Maybe it suffers from being one of the earlier DI jobs and the 2002 files didn’t properly convert over to a 2011 format?

It’s especially bullcrap when you consider that it was Lucas himself who made the decision to go ahead and make 7-9 anyway, despite his previous statements that he wouldn’t. I don’t know the details of his outline circa 2011/2012, but something tells me it had a little more plot than “the galaxy lives happily ever after.”

The extra line of “how is that possible” is one thing, but the '04 alterations don’t actually reveal that Vader is Anakin. In both versions Palpatine speaks of “the son of skywalker” in the third person. The only real difference is that we learn the name of Luke’s dad a movie earlier.

Correct. When color tv was introduced here in the States, they had to make the signal compatible with the some 30 million b&w tv sets that had already been sold. What they discovered was that if the audio, the b&w video and the additional color signal were all running at the exact same refresh rate, they interfered with one another. So the video refresh rate was altered very slightly to 29.97. Hence film-based material had to be slowed down from 24 to 23.976.

Harmony Korine’s Spring Despecializers.

(in reply to generalfrevious):

Well Lucas pretty much burned all the bridges with the GOUT didn’t he? That was a loud and clear “fuck you” to the OUT fans.

I seem to recall someone, maybe Sansweet, saying something along the lines of “oh, we’ll see how these sell and if there’s demand then we’ll give them a proper remaster.” Or maybe that was just pure speculation. It was nearly a decade ago so my memory’s a little fuzzy. But either way I don’t think anything would’ve happened for the 30th when the GOUT release was only the year before.

Even if we don’t see the OUT officially released next year, I think we’ll at least hear an official statement from LFL on its status.

That would still be more than they’ve given us in the almost four years since they were acquired by Disney.

MalàStrana said:

In France as a matter of fact. We only use these portmanteaus (prélogie, postlogie). You should do the same.

Interesting to find out it’s a French thing, as the only time I’d heard “prelogy” before was from the French-speaking hosts of Star Wars en Direct up in Montreal.

Lets not forget, Lucasfilm also digitally altered that shot of the Russians pointing their guns at Indy and Ray Winstone specifically for the first Crystal Skull trailer.

It’s worth reiterating that - according to Tack’s report - this may be from the 4k master Reliance Media Works cooked up at some point within the last several years, not the Lowry transfer created in 1080p HD in 2004 for the dvd and reused for the blu-ray in 2011. Even the in-theater marathons this past December still used DCP’s of the outdated master and did not look so great on the big screen by most accounts.

Of course, as mentioned, the possibly new master is still the 2011 edit of the movie. This is why I couldn’t be bothered to pay the money and spend the time watching it when it was here in DC yesterday, and probably won’t when they show them at AFI Silver next month either.

I caught the latter half of the RotS blu-ray projected onto a 110" screen at my relatives’ place several years ago and it looks very three-dimensional already.

Maybe they’re getting the 3D PT out of the way because they’re planning a '97-style 3D release of the OT in theaters next year?

I love how they just couldn’t help but use the same rendition of the force theme from that final TFA trailer.

It’s okay, I was kinda hoping they would. 😄

They just had to get this announcement out of the way yesterday, since they want Rogue One to be the center of all Star Wars buzz from tonight until December.

Yeeesh. No bitstreaming, no bd-r, no avchd. Assuming the ps4 does all of these things, waiting a few more months for the neo would make perfect sense … if it weren’t for bloody Comcast and their lockout of hbo go on sony’s systems.

Again, I guess this is what I’ve got the standalone panasonic bd player from eight years ago for. I’m not much of a video gamer anyway. I still break out the ps2 from time to time and play OG Battlefront, but that’s about it.

It looks like getting a roku for my streaming needs might be the way to go. Like I said, I hate voting with my wallet against physical media, but certain realities have taken precedence.

Just chiming in to say that I’d also be interested in seeing the IMAX version reconstructed.

I saw the movie on opening day at Air & Space Udvar-Hazy in 2D IMAX-with-laser and the imagery during those sequences was breathtaking.

This is as good a time as any to ask. Could someone please tell me where the music that starts at about 0:41 in this tv spot is from?

https://youtu.be/W6HN9soeGa8

I’m almost certain it’s not in the movie itself, if it’s even from the TFA score at all. I never bought the album so if it’s on there I wouldn’t know.

Those six seconds or so of music have been driving me crazy ever since I saw this preview during the “Shondathon” on abc that week. This ended up being the very first time we heard any of John Williams’ compositions for the movie.

The screening at the Warner Theatre here in DC was originally scheduled for this past Saturday (as were at least half a dozen others across the country) but has apparently been rescheduled for this upcoming Saturday.

The only ones that actually happened on Saturday were in Los Angeles and Kansas City, and then Brooklyn was the day after.

Austin and Denver are this Saturday as well.

Well, they didn’t cancel ALL of the OT screenings this summer:

http://silver.afi.com/Browsing/EventsAndExperiences/EventDetails/0000000021

Tack’s report has me curious if these are the (apparently) new dcp’s or the same old 2011 ones.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Source?

He tweeted about it recently.

The original understanding was that it would be the 1997 35mm prints themselves, and for good reason. They were still playing in repertoire theaters as of just a couple years ago.

But yeah, that was my thinking as well upon reading Tack’s report.

It could be RLM’s 4k remaster of the o-neg (which would still be in its '97 conformation) with the 2004/2011 changes simply plugged back in.

Mike Verta himself described the brief glimpses of the RLM transfer as looking, in so many words, “sloppy.”