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#1022594
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Info: How Many Versions are there of the AOTC?
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I also remember thinking it was weird that McCallum said “we were still filming last week” in reference to the dcp version the day the movie opened when the different hand shot appeared to be the same location. Unless that was somewhere in California and not Lake Cuomo in Italy and they literally got Natalie and Hayden the week before, just for that one shot.

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#1022564
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Alderaan said:

lovelikewinter said:

Rogue One will probably be on blu-ray in April. Releasing Star Wars in a 40th Anniversary edition in May would be great cross promotion. You have the film that Rogue One leads to. You have the original version, not seen in years and you can stick a trailer for Episode 8 on it to add to the excitement. It would be a win.

I think there is zero chance they are going to cannibalize sales of RO with some other major release.

Exactly.

If it’s happening at all next year, it’s definitely not happening in May only a month after Rogue One hits blu-ray. It wouldn’t happen until September/October, which has always been their release window for the OT on home video.

Dropping a trailer for it on May 25th? That I can see happening.

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#1022307
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Not to drudge this back up again, but there was a rumor going around last year that someone at LFL (“unnamed source”) had seen a new version of the SE where Han still shoots first. It ended up not being the digital versions, but the report still stands.

Considering fans have more gripes with that scene than probably any other change, it wouldn’t totally surprise me if George relented and changed it back.

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#1022298
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Info: How Many Versions are there of the AOTC?
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Digital Cinema version had Padme holding Anakin’s prosthetic hand at the end. 35mm did not. I’m relatively sure that was the only difference between those two versions. I’m still kicking myself for not going to see the digital version when it was playing at the National Amusements / Multiplex theater in Merrifield, which was also the closest theater to where I lived in Falls Church (it was the only theater in all of Virginia showing it that way per starwars.com, and one of only a hundred in the whole country). I saw AotC on 35mm opening day in downtown DC intending to see it again in digital, but the Merrifield theater had swapped it out for Scooby-Doo before I was able to.

I’m 99% sure that the scene extension of Anakin’s confession to Padme about the Tusken slaughter wasn’t added until the dvd, not the dcp. I know dvdactive’s comparison said otherwise but I’m almost positive they’re wrong. I was actually just starting to post on message boards that summer (TFN, which I thankfully abandoned not long after finding this wonderful place), and I don’t recall anyone mentioning anything except the hand-holding in the final scene.

As noted, the IMAX version was cut down because the 15/70 projector reel platters couldn’t hold more than 120 minutes of film at the time. I never saw this version (it came out within only a few days of the dvd IIRC, which I never thought was a very good business decision but whatever). Some people who saw it said the edits actually improved the pacing of the movie.

The only major difference on the blu-ray I remember hearing about is the re-editing of the Yoda/Dooku fight, specifically when Dooku force-…collapses(?) that structure next to Anakin and Obi-Wan so he can make his escape. Youtube was a thing that existed by 2011 and I remember someone posted a simple camera recording of their tv for this scene. Other than this change, I’m assuming it’s identical to the dvd version in terms of content. The movie was given a new color grade that makes it look significantly different from the dvd, unlike RotS.

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#1021847
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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All signs point to 2020.

The ST will have concluded and Ep9 will have been released on home media.

Disney will finally control all rights to the first six films with the exception of ANH.

The new 4K Ultra HD format will have matured, giving Lucasfilm an excuse to dip yet again on these movies.

We know there’s been a 4k remaster of the OT, so that might very well become the basis for the next release.

In the meantime, I’m done getting my hopes up. If there’s a surprise out-of-nowhere announcement that we’re getting it next Fall ahead of Ep8, so much the better, but I highly doubt it. We would’ve heard something by now.

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#1021801
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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lovelikewinter said:

I’m trying not to get my hopes up, you still have to deal with Fox who is ok with kissing Lucas’ ass. They might block it on the grounds of not wanting to go against his wishes.

My nephew will be 2 this January. I would love for him to see a nice version of the Original Trilogy when he is old enough. I already jokingly threatened to call CPS if he’s shown the Prequels or the SEs.

For all we know it could be Disney who’s holding out. The rights to Empire, Jedi and the prequels revert entirely to LFL in 2020. Disney might be waiting until then so they can maximize their profits on those movies rather than share them with Fox right now.

My best friend’s daughter will be 2 in March, so I was thinking along the same lines as you. I know that the OT (2011 blu-rays) were some of the first things they “watched” together, but I would certainly hope the-powers-that-be do these films justice by the time she’s actually old enough to remember watching them for the first time.

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#1019910
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Burdokva said:

I am noticing a lot of negative comments across the net about the image quality, specifically the movie being too dark and a bit washed out.

I saw it in IMAX 3D and it looked very well. Colour palette as rich and definitely not too dark. In fact, it was one of the best lit 3D movies I’ve seen.

I am going to see it again with another group of friends in REAL 2D or 3D… wondering if I’ll notice quality issues? The Arena REAL cinema screens in my city are definitely underlit, although I suspect that’s on part of the cinema chain trying to save $$$…

Like I said in my post, the theater I saw it at dropped the ball. If it was amateur hour during the premiere of a freakin’ Star Wars movie then I’m guessing it’s always amateur hour there. That’s what I get for seeing it at a theater I’d never been to. Only saw it there because my friend works five minutes away and has a ridiculously long commute he was at least able to alleviate by skipping rush hour.

To those of you lucky few who live near a 70mm Imax location and were able to see it that way, I am peanut butter and jealous.

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#1019834
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Been reading everyone’s thoughts since getting back from a 7pm screening (east coast of U.S.) more than four hours ago.

Did anyone who saw it in regular 'ol 2D think the movie looked kinda dim or did my theater just drop the ball on the projection? I’m like 99% sure they left the 3D filter on. This has happened multiple times in the past. I probably should’ve said something during the trailers but then the movie started and I just thought “well, I either miss some of the movie and disrupt the enjoyment of the people in my row I’ll need to walk past just so I can tell a theater employee, or I wait until it’s over and try to get a free ticket voucher out of this.” Once the movie was over, I made the mistake of telling it to a group of four of the theater employees instead of simply asking for the manager. One of them quickly responded “it (the 3D filter) switches on and off automatically.” It only just occured to me now that he might not have understood why having it on the projector at all during a 2D movie was a problem, but at that moment my desire to take a much-needed post-movie piss and also go warm up my car outweighed my presentation complaints. Like, the bins to collect the 3D glasses were still sitting there inside the theater … If they cared as much about a quality experience as they did about making money, maybe my screening wouldn’t have had as many empty seats. Oh, well. That’s the first and likely last time I’ll ever visit that theater anyway.

Aaaaanyway, sub-par presentation aside, the movie was still very enjoyable. The first act jumped around a little too much for me to get a clear picture (ha!) of what was going on, but I loved watching Mikkelsen and Mendelsohn play off each other in that opening scene. I’d settled into the movie by the time our heroes got to Eadu.

The dim presentation might’ve actually helped cg Tarkin blend in better. The farscape fan in me is disappointed they didn’t get Wayne Pygram back. I’d like to take this moment to remind everyone that RotS’ makeup work earned the movie its sole oscar nomination. As for Leia, she looked fine in her one single shot, but again, why not get Billie Lourd? As it stands, these cg recreations are an interesting part of our continually evolving philosophy of vfx.

Artoo and Threepio’s cameo was kinda jarring until I reminded myself “oh right, this is the new canon and we officially had no idea where they were at this point in time.”

On the other hand, my brain lit up with excitement during the totally unexpected cameos of the other pilots from ANH. I turned to my friend right after they showed up and I said “THAT was awesome” and with a grin on his face he simply replied “yup.” Maybe it’s because it’s so quick, but I thought they were copy-pasted rather seamlessly.

Fighters crashing into the shield = RotJ homage?

What’s the name of the planet where Krennic visits Vader? Was that supposed to be Mustafar or somewhere else?

Loved Giacchino’s little nods to Williams in the score, like the shield passage and the hallways of the Tantive IV at the very end. He also brought the proper gravitas to moments like Chirrut’s final scene.

Riz Ahmed was great.

Sometimes the simplest filmmaking techniques can do a lot with a little, like when Cassian talks to Jyn in the Yavin hangar bay and we pull focus on his men standing behind him.

K-2SO’s demise was surprisingly emotional. Alan Tudyk did a great job in the role, his second time playing a robot.

Oh, and I only just now put this together from Godzilla, but Gareth Edwards sure likes his insanely huge explosions doesn’t he?

I’d love to see the earlier cut of the movie but knowing Disney it will probably never surface. Hopefully we get some interesting deleted scenes. At any rate, the final product makes a convincing case for having multiple cooks in the kitchen.

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#1019646
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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Just over two hours until I see this. It’s probably closer to two and a half since there’s bound to be a boatload of trailers.

Overall I feel way less spoiled going into this than I did for TFA, which is ironic since I feel like they’ve shown more clips (TFA only released one single clip if I’m not mistaken) and shown more in trailers and tv spots than they did for TFA.

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#1019471
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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The three-screen independent theater in the town where I went to college was going to show RotS until they found out how big of a cut GL wanted from the box office.

Even in their largest aud, which was pretty big and had a lot of seats, they would’ve needed to sell out every showing for a couple months just to turn a profit. They did show Crystal Skull there though, so maybe things broke down differently with Paramount.

There was a regal only six miles away where I ended up seeing it (my first midnight opening). It’s still there now. The independent theater, however, closed last year only a month or two before TFA was released.

I know they were one of the only two-hundred or so theaters in the U.S. showing Interstellar in 35mm, so at least they had a last hurrah.

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#1018874
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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Dave Chen of Slashfilmcast fame was just broadcasting live on twitter to share his spoiler-free thoughts on the movie now that the embargo has been lifted.

He mentioned that there are two cgi characters who look “terrible” from a vfx standpoint and singled one out as looking especially bad.

It only took me a few seconds to figure out that the character he must be talking about is Tarkin.

That’s disappointing to hear, but I can’t say I’m surprised. Bringing back Peter Cushing with computers just never sounded like a good idea.

On the other hand, I’m now very intrigued as to who this other cgi character is.

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#1018360
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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The theater closest to me here in DC (well, the closest multiplex, there’s a two-screen art house theater that’s even closer but it was never gonna show this movie) is doing the same thing it did last year for TFA.

They’ve got a 7pm 3D and a 10pm 2D. Last year this worked out perfectly since my sister and I had an event earlier that night and didn’t end up getting to the theater until 9 anyway.

This year (and this is probably a sign that Rogue One will do way better box office than I expected) I randomly got a mass text from one of my friends the morning after tickets went on sale saying that they’d already reserved seats for the 9am Saturday Dolby Cinema at Tysons.

There’s no way I was waiting until after Thursday night to see this thing. As it turned out, one of my friends works only five minutes from the Regal in Germantown, MD … and they were still selling tickets for 7pm in 2D. He’s got a ridiculously long commute everyday from Centreville, VA, so at least he’ll be able to drive back after rush hour’s ended.

I’ve already given the tickets to him and the mutual friend we’re seeing it with, just so I don’t have to worry about giving up my place in line just to give them their tickets. I plan on getting there at least an hour early, if not more.

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#1014687
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Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
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At the end of Felicity Jones’ interview with Jimmy Fallon tonight they played what I’m fairly certain is the first clip we’ve seen of the movie. It’s from the shootout with the stormtroopers in the Mos Eisleyesque location. Giacchino’s music is very recognizable. My brain lit up with excitement.

I’m sure it’ll be up online soon if it isn’t already.

ETA: Here it is:

https://youtu.be/gMmmN3ey1YE

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#1013261
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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dahmage said:

All digital IMAX presentations will be 3d. Only 70mm film locations will have 2d.

I so feel like twisting my friend’s arm to go see it at the art house theater only three miles from where he lives, but I know it’s gonna be met with a resounding “no.” He likes his stadium seating and decently big screens at the very least, but he also hates putting up with your typical rude/inconsiderate multiplex audiences which is why he doesn’t want to see it at the mall either.

Ghost Protocol in 15/70 must’ve really ruined him on all other venues.

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#1013212
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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The placeholder showtimes on Smithsonian’s ticketing page has it listed as 3D for both Air & Space Museums (downtown DC and Udvar-Hazy in Chantilly, VA). This makes sense since both have converted to the laser system (which makes showing full-sized Imax 3D infinitely cheaper) and also since Lucasfilm didn’t show TFA in 2D at any laser locations last year.

Then again, Fantastic Beasts was also listed in advance on their site as being the 3D version but they’d changed it to 2D by the time opening day rolled around. Maybe something similar will happen with Rogue One, but I’m not holding my breath. Those of you who can see it in 15/70 are truly lucky.

My best friend from high school has had his heart set on getting a group together to see this at Udvar ever since early last month (Vader’s return to the big screen is a really big deal to him). If it does in fact end up being the 3D version, I’m positive my plea to not see it that way will mean nothing. My friend has perfect vision and also doesn’t care whether or not a movie was shot in stereo, so those are two things I got going against me. On the other hand, I’m way way way overdue for a new prescription. Maybe I can get contacts (I’ve heard you do not want to be wearing prescription glasses with 6p 3D systems) and just “go with the flow.” At the very least, the shots that are mostly/entirely cgi should look spectacular in natively rendered stereo.

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#1011999
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Star Wars: Rogue One - * Non Spoiler Discussion Thread *
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Air & Space Udvar-Hazy out in Chantilly was one of the first Imax theaters in the world to convert to the new laser system. I saw the “formatted for (1.9:1) Imax” and entirely 2D Tomorrowland there only a few weeks after it reopened (just in time for Age of Ultron) and also caught the “partially shot in (actual 1.44:1) Imax” Batman v Superman there as well. Instead of simplifying things like Disney did with TFA (showing it in 2D at the 70mm locations and in 3D at the laser ones) WB decided to make some of the laser locations 2D and luckily Udvar-Hazy was one of them.* I noticed they did the same for Fantastic Beasts.

I only caught TFA once on the big screen (one of those very first (well, 10pm) thursday night screenings in regular-sized 2D) and meant to catch it again in 15/70 at the Air&Space in downtown DC if only to experience that one native-Imax scene in all its glory, but I only heard about their plans to close and convert to laser a couple days in advance … and I’d already made plans for that weekend.

A good friend of mine has had his heart set on getting a group together to see Rogue One at Udvar-Hazy ever since last month. He and his wife saw TFA there on New Year’s Day. They’ve both got good vision, so the 6p 3D method the laser system uses presumably wasn’t an issue for them. I wouldn’t mind seeing Rogue One there, even though it wasn’t shot in Imax like TFA,** but if it ends up being 3D-only at that location I might have to say forget it. Disney did that for Captain America: Civil War, which switches from 2.35:1 to 1.9:1 for a scene shot on the 65mm-sized Alexa, so my friends and I went all the way out to Manassas to see it in Liemax 2D. I’m not against seeing 3D movies when they were actually shot that way (The Martian for example), but otherwise I try to avoid it. Doctor Strange, which apparently had multiple 1.9:1 Alexa 65 scenes, was only shown in 2D in normal-sized constant-2.35:1 theaters. They didn’t even do 2D liemax screenings like they did for Civil War since Kevin Feige’s been hyping the shit out of the 3D all year.

*fun fact: apparently the projector chips in the new 4k+4k laser system are still the default digital cinema AR of 1.9:1 just like the smaller 2k+2k liemax theaters. In order to show full 1.44 movies they use a special anamorphic lens, which of course means the entire movie (including the 2.35:1 scenes) is actually stretched out and the vertical pixel resolution of the 2.35:1 scenes gets compromised. A movie like Rogue One will presumably not be compromised since it doesn’t have any 1.44:1 material and therefore doesn’t need to worry about filling the screen.

**I’d make an exception for Rogue One only because Edwards shot the entire thing on the Alexa 65 using the Ultra Panavision lenses Tarantino dusted off for Hateful Eight. That makes it worthy of the giant screen experience to me. Again, This is only if I can actually see it in giant-size Imax without the 3D.

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#1010920
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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DominicCobb said:

Speaking of casting…
http://www.starwars.com/news/emilia-clarke-joins-the-han-solo-stand-alone-film?cmp=smc|670804786&linkId=31337116

…eughhh.

Not only is she currently the weakest link on an otherwise fantastic show, she also looks exactly like Felicity Jones? I don’t know. We’ll see. Still hopeful.

I heard the news earlier tonight on imdb not two minutes after learning Carice van Houten played Leni Riefenstahl (perfect casting) in the Jesse Owens biopic.