It’s quite possible Trevorrow realized it, and decided himself that he wasn’t up to the task.
Okay, I’m a little late to the party here, so sorry if someone already posted something like this, but…
Why would anyone ever want to direct a star wars movie now? This is the third director they’ve kicked off a project! What director wants to submit himself to micromanaging, intense corporate scrutiny, just to be kicked out when Lucasfilm decides they’ve had enough of you?
JEDIT: Just checked, It’s actually the fourth director they’ve dropped, though two of them were partners.
Lord and Miller are the only ones they’ve outright fired.
Rogue One may have been touched up by Tony Gilroy, but the movie still has Edwards’ name on it and he seemed fine with the finished product.
We still don’t know the details of Trevorrow’s departure.
Getting the director of the second movie to finish off the trilogy would certainly be an interesting move, and it’s happened with several other franchises in recent years. Paul Greengrass with Bourne 2/3 and Matt Reeves with these last two Apes movies both come to mind.
I feel like it almost certainly won’t be JJ. He looked and sounded exhausted by the end of TFA, and IX will have an even more compressed schedule if they really are going to have this in theaters by Memorial Day weekend of 2019. He was going to take a break after Star Trek Into Darkness and spend more time with his family when Kennedy offered him VII. Last I heard, he was going to direct that miniseries of The Nix with Meryl Streep. Checking “direct a Star Wars movie” off his bucket list was probably enough for him.
As for why Trevorrow is leaving, I feel like Book of Henry isn’t the reason. For all we know, this might have been more his decision than Kennedy’s.
TWINE?
I assume The World Is Not Enough.
Ahhhh (sorry, just saw this).
I think we can put the “contract” theory to bed, once and for all. John Landis said only a couple years ago that George himself told him that “Disney is going to put them out, as they were.” That’s quite an odd thing to make up / joke about, so I think it’s safe to take his word for it.
Less credible is that story from some guy on HTF (or whichever message board it was) about how Disney was going to restore the OOT in time for TFA, and then didn’t because they realized they needed more time to really get it right.
But the 2020 makes perfect sense from a business standpoint. It doesn’t make sense in terms of timing (the ST will be over by then and Ep9 will already be on blu-ray and 4k), but on the other hand that might give them a good release window to hype up and advertise the restoration.
In regards to the continued absence of a restored OUT, it is 100% Disney’s fault.
It’s the last remaining bite at the apple / dip in the well / whatever analogy you want to use. Seriously folks, they had to hold off on releasing the deleted scenes until the frickin’ blu-ray instead of including them on the dvd - a format known for including deleted scenes - just so they’d have a selling point other than “the iffy-looking '04 masters of the versions you hate (but will still buy anyway for some reason), now at their full resolution! …Oh, and the prequels too.”
Disney will wait until 2020 when the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels revert fully to Lucasfilm.
To those who say “yeah, but even when 2020 rolls around there’s still no guarantee it will be anything other than the SE in 4k,” I say bullshit.
There’s got to be something to that story John Landis told a couple years ago, right?
TWINE?
So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?
I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.
Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.
*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.
The general population doesn’t care about the changes. A great number of them have never seen anything but the SE. They don’t even know what they’re missing, and their numbers are growing every day.
All Disney would have to do is market the theatrical cuts as all new never before released cuts and those people will have their minds blown
I’m sure many would, but the problem is that releasing the OOT would have to be a labour of love, like Mike Verta has done. Someone within the Lucasfilm/Disney conglomerate with influence needs to champion these classic films, otherwise I don’t see it happening. There’s really not much of a financial incentive to do it. I’m sure a 4K release including the OOT would do somewhat better than one without it, but how much better are we talking about, 10%? That’s nothing compared to the amount of money to be made with the release of the new films each year.
Well, yeah.
Disney needs to want to do this. Not because they’ll make more money off of it, but because it’s the right thing to do.
I can’t wait to see how they physically release the digital version.
But they didn’t with the digital versions so who knows?
They didn’t need to because George never signed away the digital distribution rights for the other five movies. That’s why there was no waiting game for the digital release.
You can’t get ANH on Disney’s digital download platform since they don’t own it, but you can on all the other services like google, amazon, itunes, etc.
They would need to broker a deal with Fox in order to include ANH in a hypothetical new boxset post-2020, but even if they can’t there’s a very simple solution: just release the movies individually.
According to the numbers, the new 4k format is growing just as fast, if not faster, than blu-ray was at this point in its lifespan.
That would seem to refute the argument that “not as many people will care about a 4k SE,” but I still think that argument holds water if only because there was already a diminished enthusiasm for these movies when they first hit blu-ray.
The 2011 release made less money in its first week than the 2004 set made in its very first day.
The general public is oblivious to the changes.
What percentage of the “general public” actually cares enough about these movies to go out and buy them on the latest physical format?
Force Storms
Remember when some people thought that was the kind of thing we’d see in The Force Awakens, based solely on the title?
So does anyone honestly still think that when the time eventually comes to release the OT on 4k* that Disney won’t include a restored OOT?
I mean, to the layman, do the 2011 blu-rays look that terrible when upscaled on a properly setup and calibrated 4k display? People are going to need a reason to buy these movies yet again other than higher (but not necessarily perceptible) resolution and hdr.
Maybe I’m way underestimating the demand for a 4k hdr SE, but I feel like a lot of fans are worn out from all these changes and would prefer to simply watch these films as they were.
*probably no sooner than 2020 so that Disney can keep the profits from Empire and Jedi all to themselves.
I actually remember seeing the Power Rangers movie in a theater as a ten year old boy when it came out in '95. The movie itself had almost totally left my memory when I randomly caught it in hd on hbo one Saturday morning several months ago. The cgi looks terrible.
In my experience the main cause of higher ticket prices has been the theaters’ need to constantly upgrade everything.
I’m lucky that the closest multiplex to me still only charges as much as the theater near where I grew up did seven years ago. That’s probably because it hasn’t been upgraded in at least that much time. Granted, there are a bunch of other potential reasons.
This is the same understaffed theater where I saw Wonder Woman, where they leave the 3D filters on almost all of the projectors except the one for their biggest screen. Competition from other nearby theaters is probably another factor, and maybe they’re saving on the rent compared to other places.
But they don’t have a Dolby or a liemax or even a “large format” screen, and the theaters that charge more all have at least one of those things.
ETA:
I’ve noticed there’s an inverse relationship between ticket prices and access to free parking.
$14 for a real Imax screening is indeed a steal, and you saw it at an actual multiplex and not a museum where that’s more the normal price.
Here in the DC area your average multiplex will charge $20 just to see something in liemax.
Don’t think I’ve ever seen this fringing problem.
Regal has something weird going on in their theaters where the right and left sides of the screen will be tinged slightly different. It’s not super distracting but I did find it noticeable during brightly lit scenes. Must have something to do with the way their theaters are set up because I’ve noticed this at two entirely separate locations.
When I saw the final Harry Potter movie in 35mm, the screen randomly went dark for several seconds while the sound kept going. This happened a couple times during the movie and they were within only a couple minutes of each other, roughly halfway through. I don’t want to mention specifics on the off-chance I’d be spoiling it for someone, but the first flub happened right in the middle of a pretty significant moment and I seem recall saying out loud “you’ve got to be kidding me.”
When it happened again only a minute or so later the lighting in the scene was, uhhh, much brighter, so the screen going dark again for a few seconds was even more noticeable.
I don’t know what the hell caused it, maybe the shutter in the projector got stuck or something. There was a trio of folks complaining to the management afterwards as we were leaving the theater, and I was tempted to do the same, but I could see the person on duty wasn’t giving in and so I figured it wasn’t worth the trouble.
When I saw Rise of the Planet of the Apes at a Thursday midnight screening with my cousin a week or so later, it was at the same theater and we had a choice between digital and film. I chose digital, thinking that would prevent any screwups like what happened with harry potter.
We go inside and I notice the real-d filter is still over the projector. I ask a theater employee to remove it and she does. Eventually the trailers start, and then the movie.
About halfway through, the same exact thing that happened during Harry Potter happens again … only the picture doesn’t come back this time.
We all start making our way out of the auditorium with very little light to guide us, booing the whole time. As we’re finally getting to the hallway, the theater staff emphatically tells us it’s okay and that someone’s coming to fix it. We all take our seats again and someone comes in with a remote (yup, tv in the cinema indeed, Tarantino) and asks us to let her know when we’ve gotten to the right scene as she fast-forwards through the movie.
Goes without saying they were waiting outside to give us all free passes once the movie ended.
tl;dr, digital cinema can be just as bad if not worse than film projection.
Six years later it’s almost worse in certain ways. I’ve complained about them not removing the 3D filter on at least two trips to the movies in the last year. With Rogue One I mentioned it to them afterward and they said “it turns on and off automatically,” completely ignoring my point that it shouldn’t be on there at all. With Wonder Woman I tried letting someone know during the trailers, but the theater was so understaffed that the guy in charge understandably told me there was nothing he could do about it.
Well, the last time I saw a 35mm print of a new release was probably The Muppets back in 2011, and the last time before that was probably Thor earlier that year.
Paramount’s final 35mm release was Anchorman 2 back in 2013. They made an exception for Interstellar.
There are probably many people in their mid-teens who saw film projected pre-2012, but they probably wouldn’t remember now which was which. It’s all the same to them.
I certainly didn’t start to appreciate the finer points of film projection until I was in my late teens.
If any question was worth a double-post, it’s that one.
There will almost definitely be a 4k UHD of The Last Jedi next April.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if Disney puts out TFA and Rogue One on the format later this year.
We’re not getting a UHD of I-VI until 2020 at the earliest, though.
I’ll probably see Homecoming on Saturday morning since I’ve got a surplus of $5 Fandango coupons that expire the end of July and the ticket will only cost me 79 cents.
Plus, I won’t be back in town until tomorrow and want to see this with a DC audience, for obvious reasons.
Oh look, Disneys very first 4K Blu-ray will be Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.2
I jumped over to The Digital Bits after seeing this just now only to find that Bill Hunt had posted the announcement from James Gunn in the middle of the night.
Curious that this comes ahead of any announcement from Disney on their plans for the format, although it probably makes more sense to start things off on a more personal and enthusiastic note from an actual director.
Vol 2 will probably be a day one buy since I can finally future-proof a Disney release. I’d much rather pay a few extra bucks for a 4k disc I can’t watch yet than pay for an overpriced combo pack with a dvd I’ll never watch at all and a blu-ray that’s stuck at 1080p and sdr.
Somehow this managed to be the first theatrical run of an MCU movie since Incredible Hulk to completely pass me by.
I liked The People vs George Lucas. Is it time for a new documentary? One that focuses specifically on the special editions and lack of availability of the originals?
Wasn’t a sequel in the works not long after the Disney deal happened?
Yes but seems to have disappeared without trace.
http://ew.com/article/2014/06/17/star-wars-george-lucas-doc-people/
IIRC, someone even started a thread here asking for our feedback.
I liked The People vs George Lucas. Is it time for a new documentary? One that focuses specifically on the special editions and lack of availability of the originals?
Wasn’t a sequel in the works not long after the Disney deal happened?