Fang Zei

nickyd47 said:

If the pattern is to be followed, we’re due for another Star Wars box set this 2018. Since 1990, every 7 years a new Star Wars box set gets released. Make my day Disney

They’re going to have to steer clear of the home release windows for TLJ and Solo so as not to compete with themselves, which leaves two (possibly three) choices within the next couple years:

They could put it out at the end of next year, like Nov/Dec time, since Solo will probably hit video in Sept/Oct.

Spring of ‘19, like March or April, is another possibility. There won’t be a new movie hitting home video around that time, and it would sort of be like how the OT dvd hit shelves roughly eight months before “the last Star Wars saga movie ever.”

They could wait until September 2019, closer to Ep9’s theatrical release, but I’m assuming there will be yet another “Force Friday” merchandising blitz that same month and they’d probably want to save it for another time.

I’d really love a definitive answer on what exact resolution the VFX/DI for AotC and RotS were done at.

We know they were shot at 1920:817 (cropped down from the 1920:1080 of the 16:9 sensor), but it’s not 100% clear what happened next.

2k scope is like 2048:856, so I suppose it’s possible that the live-action footage was upscaled very slightly and then the cgi and final color timing was done natively at that resolution.

But I suppose it’s also possible ILM actually worked at 1920:817, matching the live-action material pixel for pixel.

So, yeah, it would be nice to get clarification on this. But I’m not sure who would even be the person to ask.

The Lowry “restoration” of the OT done for the dvd in 2004 (and reused, with some tweaks, for the blu-ray) was only done at 1920:1080 (actually 1920:817 since it’s scope), not 2k, and there’ve been actual dcp’s made from them. On the other hand, George clearly didn’t consider it the finished master of the OT since he eventually commissioned the RMW 4k job.

The vfx (and eventual rebuild) of TPM would’ve almost certainly been true 2k scope (2048:856) since it was already the late 90’s and TPM was shot on film with a very large budget.

It’s worth noting that many of the releases on the new 4k format have been 2k upscales, even many of the 4k releases of movies made within the last couple years. There’s also been at least one live-action movie released on 4k that was shot at 1080p just like AotC/RotS (Resident Evil: Afterlife).

So the only screening I can catch on Thursday night is 12:45 AM at the Uptown.

I work at a movie theater (no, we’re not showing TLJ) and got stuck with a closing shift, but should be done by 12:20 which would give me just enough time to get over there.

Unless something unexpected comes up at the last minute, it looks like I’m doing this.

At this point I wonder if LFL would even use the RMW master or if they would just start over from scratch. Mike Verta had some harsh words for the shots featured in their demo reel and doubts that it was simply a “work in progress.”

Gareth Edwards and John Knoll actually saw the finished product with their own eyes at the beginning of pre-production on Rogue One (which would’ve been right around the time this thread was started). One of them said it looked “different” than they remembered. They also said it had only just been completed, which makes me wonder if George was even consulted in the finished color-timing since this was presumably still his version.

We also don’t know if Empire and Jedi had been finished or not. There were no shots from the latter in RMW’s demo reel.

Wazzles said:

Fang Zei said:

If memory serves, the stuff everyone was looking forward to about the blu-ray bonus discs (deleted scenes, vintage docs) were very OT-centric, and this is back when George was still in charge!

That’s partly because the special features for the PT in the Complete Saga set are horrible. There is so many good features in the DVD releases it’s a damn shame they didn’t bring them over for the BD.

Enough time has passed now that they could just throw in all the PT dvd extras as “vintage docs.”

I could certainly see the appeal in “the beginning” being made available in a form other than a used TPM dvd or an unauthorized youtube upload.

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

Handman said:

At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?

Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?

Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”

If the remaster is done correctly, I’d pay damn-near any price for the OUT, even if it’s in a big giant boxed set of other stuff.

I actually wonder if we’ll ever see the respective trilogies released on their own again.

Lucasfilm clearly realizes the prequels aren’t held in the same regard as the classic originals. We may very well see a repeat of what happened with the 2011 set, where you have to buy the whole thing just to get the extra bonus discs you want.

If memory serves, the stuff everyone was looking forward to about the blu-ray bonus discs (deleted scenes, vintage docs) were very OT-centric, and this is back when George was still in charge!

I’d love to see the numbers on how the PT and OT sets sold on their own.

Now that Disney will fully own I-VI, there’s no longer any point in waiting until 2020 to put out new content.

Now it’s just a question of what they would include in a new set (other than the very obvious choice of a restored OOT and maybe the Holiday Special), how long it would take, how much all the work would cost them, and when the best time to release it would be.

Handman said:

At that point, why not just have a box set of I-VIII with a spot reserved for IX?

Other than “because by that point many fans will probably already have bought TFA and TLJ”?

Not to mention the slippery slope of “do they stick to the main saga or do they throw in Rogue One and Han Solo as well?”

In retrospect, it’s almost like George was intentionally keeping this 4k transfer in his back pocket for later, since he was apparently talking to Iger about selling the company as early as May of 2011, several months before the blu’s streeted.

With Han Solo likely hitting blu-ray in September of next year (barring the movie getting pushed back to December, but I find that unlikely at this point), I could easily see them putting out an actual new release of I-VI on blu/4k by November/December of 2018.

But, as always, who really knows?

rodneyfaile said:

I watched the red carpet event for The Last Jedi. I was surprised George Lucas wan’t there. If he did attend, he wasn’t interviewed. He was at The Force Awakens event. I hate that he is getting more distant from the franchise. If they do release the Originals, then he would probably disappear entirely.

What would be really cool is if LFL brought him in to put together that “film school in a box” he supposedly always wanted for a home release of I-VI. I’ve never gone through the 2011 set, but it’s my understanding that it isn’t the grand concept George talked about.

The UHD release would be a perfect time to do it, and would add value to yet another re-release of the films.

Obviously I’d want them to include the restored unaltereds (and the ‘97 versions and theatrical prequels for History’s sake) in addition to George’s preferred version.

Just so long as his versions are considered the “official” versions of the movies, I guarantee you George wouldn’t care one bit about a restored OOT being available.

Like CHEWBAKAspelledwrong just said, he (technically) put them out on dvd himself in ‘06.

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I sincerely hope that you’re right, but god dammit, when?!

If this Fox buyout actually goes through, maybe a whole lot sooner than we’d thought.

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I still say the restoration of an unaltered OT would be a much bigger deal than we’re giving it credit for.

As for what Fox will become under Disney, we seem to forget that Miramax never became a pg-13-only company after the Mouse House bought them out back in 1993.

What fmalover said.

Speaking as someone who knows next to nothing about Marvel comics other than what I’ve seen over the years in other media (the early 90’s X-men cartoon was a Saturday morning staple for me as a kid) and picked up from friends of mine who actually do know the source material quite well, to me there’s a big element of “who cares?” when it comes to whether or not x-men and F4 ever cross over with the MCU. I’ve even heard it argued by actual fans that the “mutantverse” should basically be its own thing anyway.

Obviously it’s a little different with F4, whose absence in the MCU has been sorely felt by the hardcore fans as far as I can tell. MovieBob has a pretty good video on youtube about how he’d handle their introduction into the MCU. His solution? Make their origin story a time-travel story that flings them from the 1960’s into their future / our present.

Anyway, stuff like that could end up happening anyway without one company needing to buy out the other. The rights to Daredevil eventually went back to Marvel from Fox, didn’t it?

MalàStrana said:

Mike O said:

But I don’t to wait until 2020!

For another SE release ? (I still don’t get why Disney buying Fox would lead to the release of the OOT…)

(if the OOT was to be released, it would probably already be done or at least officially planned)

The reason they’ve simply continued to reissue the same 2011 discs is because LFL doesn’t want to put out any kind of new release until the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels revert to them in 2020.

At that point, the only movie they’ll have to worry about sharing with Fox is ANH if Disney hasn’t already bought them out from Murdoch by then.

There was talk several years ago of sony pictures going out of business entirely. The recent deal with Marvel over Spider-Man was done at least partially out of desperation, after the two ASM movies underperformed.

But maybe that means they’d be willing to share Fox’s Marvel properties with the MCU as well? Maybe we’d see a similar situation to Homecoming where Sony makes a new F4 movie set within the greater continuity and lets them show up in Disney’s movies as well.

As for ANH, I honestly think whoever owns that movie in 2020 will simply come to an agreement with LFL/Disney about a new release.

^ Meanwhile, you can walk into a store and buy an actual 4k disc of a certain David Bowie movie George was involved in producing.

But you can’t get Star Wars.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

Literally one of the first things Disney said upon acquiring Lucasfilm just over five years ago was that the Star Wars universe has “over 25,000 years of history.”

This would only lend more credence to someone’s theory upthread about Rian’s trilogy being about the origins of the Jedi, which is pretty much exactly what I’ve been wanting them to do.

Everything must be explained. Nothing can be left up to the individual’s imagination. And it’s all canon, CANON, CANON.

If this trilogy has anything to do with the origins of the Jedi/Sith, I’m out. I’m sick of this crap.

Now that I think about it, they did say it would be an “unexplored corner” of the galaxy. That implies an unfamiliar location more than it does an unfamiliar time. So maybe I’m wrong and this will be set within the timeline of I-IX.

I wonder when we’ll see the first major project from the Nu-LFL to venture outside of the main era.

Are they still making those Old Republic games? They were never explicitly carried over into the new continuity like I-VI and TCW, but I seem to recall the most recent one coming out either right before or right after the Disney deal happened.

DominicCobb said:

spin-off

https://youtu.be/sfbsgVlzeUI

The fact that they were even talking about doing this says to me that the two parties will eventually hammer out some kind of deal over ANH.

Your average moviegoer will probably consider the ST J.J. Abrams’ anyway, even though someone else directed the middle chapter (kind of like how most people think Lucas directed the entire OT).

At least Rian gets to actually lay the foundations this time.

Mark Hamill said at the dvd press conference back in 2004 that when he first signed on it was going to be twelve movies.

They said in the official announcement that this won’t be Episodes X, XI, and XII.

FrankT said:

A fourth trilogy!? Three is not enough?!?!?!

FTFY

Edit: Z6PO beat me to it, although I was kinda thinking the opposite of what he said.

We’ll now have gotten three Star Wars trilogies in the course of only 25 years.

So apparently the biggest reason Disney wanted Fox’s stuff was so they could put it up on their streaming service to help compete with Netflix.

Makes sense.

http://www.slashfilm.com/no-more-new-marvel-netflix-shows/