Fang Zei

Mike O said:

Fang Zei said:

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I sincerely hope that you’re right, but god dammit, when?!

If this Fox buyout actually goes through, maybe a whole lot sooner than we’d thought.

moviefreakedmind said:

I don’t really expect one. I don’t think it’s on anyone’s radar.

It’s been a while since we’ve gotten another one of those good old fashioned rumors, so no, it’s not on anyone’s radar right now.

But I stand by my argument that being able to watch the SE in 4k with HDR will simply not be a big enough selling point for many people. I don’t think it’s a generalization to say that a sizable percentage of the fans (both hardcore and casual) are tired of those versions and would vastly prefer to watch the unaltered OT, warts and all. Even if the average person who might prefer the OUT doesn’t know how to get their hands on de-specialized, they’re also not going to want to part with their money yet again if Lucasfilm is only putting out the SE “but in 4k w/ HDR this time!!!” Many fans would likely reply “thanks, but I’m good with my 2011 blu-rays if that’s the only upgrade you’re offering.”

Considering the fact that only so many people will bother upgrading their equipment to 4k, simply being able to watch newer transfers of the SE on regular blu-ray won’t be of much interest. Lucasfilm will need to offer something major on the content side for those sticking with 1080p.

I still say the restoration of an unaltered OT would be a much bigger deal than we’re giving it credit for.

As for what Fox will become under Disney, we seem to forget that Miramax never became a pg-13-only company after the Mouse House bought them out back in 1993.

What fmalover said.

Speaking as someone who knows next to nothing about Marvel comics other than what I’ve seen over the years in other media (the early 90’s X-men cartoon was a Saturday morning staple for me as a kid) and picked up from friends of mine who actually do know the source material quite well, to me there’s a big element of “who cares?” when it comes to whether or not x-men and F4 ever cross over with the MCU. I’ve even heard it argued by actual fans that the “mutantverse” should basically be its own thing anyway.

Obviously it’s a little different with F4, whose absence in the MCU has been sorely felt by the hardcore fans as far as I can tell. MovieBob has a pretty good video on youtube about how he’d handle their introduction into the MCU. His solution? Make their origin story a time-travel story that flings them from the 1960’s into their future / our present.

Anyway, stuff like that could end up happening anyway without one company needing to buy out the other. The rights to Daredevil eventually went back to Marvel from Fox, didn’t it?

MalàStrana said:

Mike O said:

But I don’t to wait until 2020!

For another SE release ? (I still don’t get why Disney buying Fox would lead to the release of the OOT…)

(if the OOT was to be released, it would probably already be done or at least officially planned)

The reason they’ve simply continued to reissue the same 2011 discs is because LFL doesn’t want to put out any kind of new release until the rights to Empire, Jedi, and the prequels revert to them in 2020.

At that point, the only movie they’ll have to worry about sharing with Fox is ANH if Disney hasn’t already bought them out from Murdoch by then.

There was talk several years ago of sony pictures going out of business entirely. The recent deal with Marvel over Spider-Man was done at least partially out of desperation, after the two ASM movies underperformed.

But maybe that means they’d be willing to share Fox’s Marvel properties with the MCU as well? Maybe we’d see a similar situation to Homecoming where Sony makes a new F4 movie set within the greater continuity and lets them show up in Disney’s movies as well.

As for ANH, I honestly think whoever owns that movie in 2020 will simply come to an agreement with LFL/Disney about a new release.

^ Meanwhile, you can walk into a store and buy an actual 4k disc of a certain David Bowie movie George was involved in producing.

But you can’t get Star Wars.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Fang Zei said:

Literally one of the first things Disney said upon acquiring Lucasfilm just over five years ago was that the Star Wars universe has “over 25,000 years of history.”

This would only lend more credence to someone’s theory upthread about Rian’s trilogy being about the origins of the Jedi, which is pretty much exactly what I’ve been wanting them to do.

Everything must be explained. Nothing can be left up to the individual’s imagination. And it’s all canon, CANON, CANON.

If this trilogy has anything to do with the origins of the Jedi/Sith, I’m out. I’m sick of this crap.

Now that I think about it, they did say it would be an “unexplored corner” of the galaxy. That implies an unfamiliar location more than it does an unfamiliar time. So maybe I’m wrong and this will be set within the timeline of I-IX.

I wonder when we’ll see the first major project from the Nu-LFL to venture outside of the main era.

Are they still making those Old Republic games? They were never explicitly carried over into the new continuity like I-VI and TCW, but I seem to recall the most recent one coming out either right before or right after the Disney deal happened.

DominicCobb said:

spin-off

https://youtu.be/sfbsgVlzeUI

The fact that they were even talking about doing this says to me that the two parties will eventually hammer out some kind of deal over ANH.

Your average moviegoer will probably consider the ST J.J. Abrams’ anyway, even though someone else directed the middle chapter (kind of like how most people think Lucas directed the entire OT).

At least Rian gets to actually lay the foundations this time.

Mark Hamill said at the dvd press conference back in 2004 that when he first signed on it was going to be twelve movies.

They said in the official announcement that this won’t be Episodes X, XI, and XII.

FrankT said:

A fourth trilogy!? Three is not enough?!?!?!

FTFY

Edit: Z6PO beat me to it, although I was kinda thinking the opposite of what he said.

We’ll now have gotten three Star Wars trilogies in the course of only 25 years.

So apparently the biggest reason Disney wanted Fox’s stuff was so they could put it up on their streaming service to help compete with Netflix.

Makes sense.

http://www.slashfilm.com/no-more-new-marvel-netflix-shows/

Literally one of the first things Disney said upon acquiring Lucasfilm just over five years ago was that the Star Wars universe has “over 25,000 years of history.”

This would only lend more credence to someone’s theory upthread about Rian’s trilogy being about the origins of the Jedi, which is pretty much exactly what I’ve been wanting them to do.

Not that it really matters (as evidenced most recently by Thor: Ragnarok), but I wonder why Universal will always own the release rights to any future standalone Hulk film.

Did Marvel completely sell them off at some point?

Is it different from the situation with F4 where Fox needs to make another movie every several years?

SilverWook said:

A reminder that THX is going to be on Turner Classic Movies this Thursday night at 9:15pm PST.
If somebody can DVR it, I’d be most grateful. The fact they ran the post Star Wars reissue trailer to promote it tonight makes me think something might be up!

I’m watching it right now and, as expected, it’s the 2004 version.

Mavimao said:

Ah yes, I didn’t think about the Disney films. Indeed, OBWAT is not the first DI.

There was also the Gone With the Wind restoration from the early 90s. That was completely digitized.

OBWAT is the first complete DI of a live action movie.

As for the ‘98 theatrical re-release of GWTW, only 12 minutes or so of the movie was digitally restored, according to this article:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/1998/06/25/movies/scarlett-rhett-old-south-their-most-colorful-giving-new-life-beloved-but-faded.html

Slightly off-topic here, but were the 70mm prints of ESB and RotJ 5.1 or were they still configured for the 4.2 arrangement that Star Wars used in ‘77?

ZigZig said:

Chewielewis said:

Phantom menace was a cut negative, but since most of the film went through some form of digital manipulation, its mostly 2K filmouts.

According to IMDB, TMP was processed through a 2k DI: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120915/technical?ref_=tt_ql_dt_7

Imdb is user-based. I’ve seen some blatant inaccuracies in the technical specs of certain movies listed there. TPM was indeed a cut neg in ‘99.

In 2011 they were able to reconstruct the movie directly from ILM’s digital filmout tapes, which were still readable after more than a decade. This got them as close to the true original negative as possible. I’m not sure what the procedure was for the remaining shots that never went through the computer at all, whether they were scanned in from the cut neg or whether they were sitting on the filmout tapes as well for some reason.

In any event, this final(?) version of the movie would have been assembled digitally as a 2k DI, but whoever edited the imdb page should’ve specified that this was not done until the 2011 release.

John Doom said:

I agree most people don’t realize that film can look “hd”, though it’s not really their fault, they’re just not aware of it (I wasn’t too until some years ago! 😄 ).
About grain, though, I don’t know anyone who actually dislike it. Maybe they use DNR on movies just because it eases digital compressions and makes special effects blend better with the live-action footage.

Ease of compression and vfx blending have little to do with it.

They use DNR because they think that’s how people want their movies to look.

At least they’ve rectified many of the more egregious examples with proper remasters.

The next time you hear someone say film isn’t hd, remind them that The Shield - a show shot in 16mm - is being remastered in 4k.

adywan said:

I have the doc in HD and the crawl is upscaled

Man, even in straight-from-the-cable-box hd on an actual 720p tv with 1:1 pixel mapping, that wasn’t apparent at all. Although maybe I shouldn’t be so surprised by that.

There isn’t anything other than rabbit ears and a basic 2008 blu-ray player hooked up to my 1080p set (also from 2008), but I’m guessing it’s more noticeable at that res?

It would be fun to compare against the GOUT.

ZigZig said:

I can get - and share - a capture of this Spielberg doc.
Could you tell me at what moment the crawl does appear?

It’s just a little after the 37 minute mark.