Fang Zei

JackNapier said:

ThiefCobbler4ever said:

Regarding on a box set, I came up with something on the Disney Fanon Wiki that I think everyone will love:
https://disneyfanon.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Skywalker_Saga_Ultimate_Edition

Tell me what you think (disregard the cover, someone added that for some reason).

I’ve seen that quite a few times; great job, btw. Really appreciate the work you put into it. Personally, I’d rather just get the OT and nothing else.

They haven’t reissued just the OT (without also doing the same for the other movies) since 2006. I feel like we’d be getting reissues of the other films as well just like in late 2011 and early 2020. We’re hitting the seven year mark again next year anyway, so it would be more or less on time.

They did call it a “yearlong” 50th anniversary, although that could simply mean the Star Wars ‘77 release in theaters February, up on D+ May the 4th along with maybe Empire and Jedi, then the OOT (and maybe OPT?) on 4k disc same day as Starfighter in September.

They’d undoubtedly put the unaltered Empire back in theaters in 2030 and Jedi in ‘33 just like they did with RotJ (albeit the 2019 version), Empire (the ‘04/2011 version back in 2020), TPM, and RotS for their recent milestone anniversaries.

Re-releasing all the films in theaters in the same year feels like something they’d do for the OT’s 3D conversion’s debut, maybe with every last remaining mistake fixed and, uh, a few new surprises. It’s the kind of thing I could see happening when Lucasfilm figures out what the next big Star Wars saga is going to be, just like the ‘97 SE happened as part of the lead up to Episode I. Disney could also use the 3D versions to cross-promote Avatar 4/5.

LJDunk52 said:

That Beskar Collectors Edition is very overpriced for what you get in it. I hope the theatrical OT won’t be priced like that, but will be more like the 4K pricing.

Speaking of which, I guess d23 didn’t bring any updates on the OOT. I suspect we’ll know more by December, but it would’ve been nice to hear some more official details.

I did hear that Filoni apparently gave a Jedi mind trick “we’re not working on that” reply in response to a question about the New Republic movie, which has been interpreted to mean that it is indeed still potentially happening.

The only thing other than historical preservation that would justify the inclusion of the ‘97 versions is if George decided to radically alter the movies yet again. Like, if he gave Star Wars the “final cut” treatment like Ridley Scott with Blade Runner or George’s friend Francis Coppola with Apocalypse Now.

Having said that, Apocalypse Now is an interesting example because to my knowledge the only alteration that was done for its Final Cut was the removal of a scene that had been added for the Redux version. And yet the earlier two versions were both included seamlessly branched on a second disc.

I’ve joked about this, but it’s still not too late for George to do his “I may have gone too far in a few places” edition of I-VI. I even remember there was a rumor right before the digital versions came out in 2015 that someone had been at the ranch (or wherever) and noticed someone working on the unaltered original version of the Han and Greedo scene, thus leading to speculation that it was going to get changed back to how it was. Obviously that turned out not to be true, but meanwhile the Han and Jabba scene is the only thing other than the additional Luke and Biggs moment that Lucas ever put back into the OT. Well, that and the repurposed RotJ footage of Vader walking off his shuttle that was used for the SE of ESB. I don’t think anything deleted from when they shot it back in the day got added back into RotJ.

If George wanted to change his mind about the editorial alterations to the running time, or even go the opposite route and add even more (or redo the cg) then there’d be a much stronger argument for including the ‘97 SE.

JadedSkywalker said:

I just expected an anniversary screening to be better than what can be had in the home on 4K and or the original 2005 release on 35mm film.

If you are going to give more than 2 hours of your time and 20 dollars for a ticket, you know.

AMC venue is crap and I wish Showcase didn’t go out of business. They even closed the second of two theaters. Covid and streaming destroyed going to the movies. Too many cinemas not upgrading their equipment or going under declaring chapter 11.

The last real premium experience I can recall for a Disney movie was the Force Awakens. Seeing it in Imax, seeing it in real 3D. and in standard laser. And getting more than my money’s worth, except in the one venue with a low projection bulb and screen tear.

The cost of concessions and everyone on their phones. It’s generally a worse experience than what one can program at home.

Reissues of Ghibli in Imax or Star Wars, I did miss Lord of the Rings reissue. Those are worth my time and money. Though I couldn’t get an answer over the LOTR reissue if it was the crap Park Road remaster. that DNR disaster that is on 4K UHD. That should be recalled.

I hope at least the reissue of Star Wars 1977 is as good as the 1997 Special Edition if not better. It has to be better than Maclunky 4K right?

Funny you should bring all this up, because a friend actually invited me to go see the recent fathom re-release of FotR extended a couple months ago (she was reading the book for the first time and had never seen the longer versions) at an AMC. Picture looked pretty good to me but that might’ve been because I was expecting it to look way worse based on everything I’d heard about the “4k” remaster, and I’m pretty sure that’s what it was, considering there was no “AOL” before the “Time Warner” under the New Line logo and the overall color palette seemed to match what I’d briefly checked out on hbo max a year or two ago and not the the green tint of the old extended bd.

Anyway, audio also was pretty good aside from a couple weird panning anomalies whenever someone talked as they were walking into or out of frame. It was in a decently big auditorium with laser projection.

So you’re probably wondering, what was the problem?

Well, during the quieter scenes it became pretty much impossible not to notice that what must’ve been a restaurant or a bar/club must’ve been adjacent to that side of this particular AMC, because every time it got quiet I just noticed the incessant “oomsah, oomsah, oomsah” of the beat.

If it wasn’t for the fact that my friend had gotten the tickets I would’ve said something to the management about it. She didn’t seem to notice, so I just tried as best I could to tune it out. Like, you’re literally paying for the sensory deprivation of a movie theater when you pay for a ticket. It’s bad enough when audio from the other auditoriums bleeds through. The last thing you should be hearing is noise from outside!

JadedSkywalker said:

They did horribly with the Revenge of the Sith re-release. Anniversary It wasn’t promoted and it was in crap venues. I hope Star Wars fares better. Like if you are in a cinema with two IMAX screens it had better on one of them. Or in the Dolby cinema as an alternative. Not the 4th screen which is the smallest screen they show matinee kids cartoons on. Which isn’t even 4K.

That is more on AMC though than Disney I guess but I can blame Disney for allowing that booking.

You want a comparison the 1997 Special Edition was heavily promoted and treated like brand new movies. That is what Star Wars deserves. I don’t mean the cgi redoes or Greedo shooting first, I mean premium theaters and sound. Back then on 35mm film and in first run quite a experience.

For the 50th you would think go even bigger, but its Disney. Too focused on MCU and Disney Star Wars to care about George Lucas Star Wars.

Hopefully they care enough about money to have Sony release some 4K UHD discs. That is my desired outcome if not a boutique label.

RotS did at least get shown in 4dx theaters when it was re-released last year. I’ve still never seen anything in 4dx, had originally planned on trying it out with Avatar 3 but went with Dolby Cinema 3D instead and it was mind-blowing.

Anyway, 2D 4dx for RotS just makes the 3D version feel that much more conspicuously absent, especially when we know the conversion was completed.

TPM was apparently also shown in 4dx during its re-release back in 2024 but I don’t remember them promoting it as being shown in those theaters.

I-VI have notably never been remastered for the modern bespoke projection formats like Dolby Cinema or Imax laser. There does appear to be a guarantee we’ll be getting Star Wars ‘77 in Imax but we’ll have to wait and see about the others.

Broom Kid said:

That’s a really good point! Disney isn’t going to let a re-release potentially take up screens from a new release. And Disney’s re-release strategy tends to be a limited affair that’s mostly a way to block-book screens in advance of a new movie opening.

Basically a three week run for all three movies, with Star Wars in IMAX, leading straight into all those screens just immediately becoming screens for Gatto. It’s very similar to what they did with the Revenge of the Sith re-release, which was holding a LOT of seats for the Thunderbolts release.

I could see them putting out both Empire and Jedi in Imax as well on that second weekend. Not sure how they handled it for the latter two LotR films in terms of the showtimes, but clearly they figured something out.

If they went that route, it would leave TPM and RotS as the only Star Wars films never released in Imax … unless of course they were also to put out the prequels that way in late January or early February.

Btw, apparently the new Thomas Crown Affair is currently scheduled for Imax on March 5th and Gatto isn’t. Either way, Disney’s going to want as many screens for Gatto as it can get.

I feel like there’s still a chance they just put VII-IX back out there in late March if only on a bunch of the normal screens. Even if the Imax screens are taken (Godzilla x Kong: Supernova and Resurrection of the Christ: Part One are both scheduled for Imax releases the weekend of March 26th), the Disney era Star Wars movies all got their big runs in all the various formats back during their initial releases anyway.

If they do in fact also end up putting Empire and Jedi back out in theaters, what they might end up doing is putting them out together the weekend after Star Wars.

That’s how WB handled the Imax release of LotR back in early 2021. Fellowship came out one weekend and then The Two Towers and Return of the King came out together the very next weekend.

Sam Esmail’s Panic Carefully from WB and The Cocomelon movie from DreamWorks animation are currently both scheduled for the weekend after Star Wars on the 26th, but Pixar’s Gatto is set for the weekend after that on March 5th. Disney will want to prioritize Gatto

SonnyGFunk said:

Fang Zei said:

My theory as to why the original April 30th re-release in theaters date for Star Wars got moved up to February 19th (and this is just a guess) is because something unforeseen happened after the original announcement regarding production schedules for either a theatrical movie or Disney+ show and they realized they were going to need something to drop in early May, so maybe (again, just a guess) they decided to put it out in theaters in February so they could drop the unaltered versions on Disney+ on May the 4th.

Or you go with the theory that it was moved to February to allow TESB in March and ROTJ in April, running up to Starfighter in May. TESB and ROTJ weren’t included in the IMAX slate for 2027 so this may be a less likely outcome now, but still something to hope for.

Maybe, but if they were going to drop it on Disney+ on May the 4th (which again is just a guess) then I’d think they’d want to get it out there sooner than later and give more time for them to play in theaters before it’s available anywhere else.

I’d also think with Starfighter taking place post-saga they’d also want to let people see VII-IX on the big screen again. Like I said, if they were to do one a week they could start with TPM at the end of January and get to Rise of Skywalker the weekend before Celebration. By that point I’d feel like they’d want all the focus to be on Starfighter (and whatever new shows … and maybe, who knows, another new film will be in the works by then) for those last couple months leading up to its release.

April of next year is mostly empty on the release schedule. There might still be an anticipated move from either Dune or Avengers to somewhere in that stretch of the year, Disney might’ve even moved Star Wars from April 30th in case it wants to put Doomsday out then, but the other possibility I forgot to mention is that April might be so empty because the industry is anticipating another strike.

kali9615 said:

BonafidePhoenix said:

Do we have any idea about restorations of ESB and ROTJ? I hope we don’t have to wait until 2030 and 2033 for those movies…

They’re obviously happening based on the leaks, but nothing beyond SW’s re-release next February has been officially announced yet.

It occurred to me that if they were to re-release one main saga film per week starting with TPM three weeks earlier, they’d hit Rise of Skywalker the weekend before Celebration Los Angeles.

I’d totally assumed Dune: Part Three was going to get pushed back to that March/April since it’s coming out same day in December as Avengers, but they’re both still holding on December with their respective trailers out.

Obviously that could change, but as of now April is wide open for next year. Theaters might actually need stuff to show, even if it’s just re-releases.

My theory as to why the original April 30th re-release in theaters date for Star Wars got moved up to February 19th (and this is just a guess) is because something unforeseen happened after the original announcement regarding production schedules for either a theatrical movie or Disney+ show and they realized they were going to need something to drop in early May, so maybe (again, just a guess) they decided to put it out in theaters in February so they could drop the unaltered versions on Disney+ on May the 4th.

YAREL_RGP said:

Fang Zei said:

YAREL_RGP said:

JadedSkywalker said:
Even Phantom Menace, yes the prequel. If it was restored theatrical cut, I would buy it day one if it didn’t have the foolish DNR and cgi Yoda. Or the extended edits that slow down the pace. If it had the same mix as the audio on the laserdisc.

Yes, and besides, I don’t understand the need to release a UHD version of something that was originally scanned at 2K to add CGI effects and then reprinted on film, especially since some parts were filmed digitally at 1080p. I think the theatrical version of TPM should be released on Blu-ray with the grain and color intact, without any upscaling, and it should be available alongside the “Special Edition” of TPM.

UHD’s of 2k-finished films still have advantages over regular blu-ray. Because of home video’s 4:2:0 subsampling, you’re actually seeing a 2k movie at almost its full chroma. The data rate can go up to a hundred or so mpbs vs fifty for bd. You also get greater color space, bit depth, and, for what it’s worth, 2k is slightly higher than hd.

A 2k movie can look great on UHD as long as they don’t screw it up. Oblivion is one example I’ve heard of where the resolvable detail of the UHD is actually botched compared to the blu-ray.

I understand what you’re saying, but I’m afraid that when they transfer it to a UHD Blu-ray they’ll upscale it, and besides, I don’t like HDR. I don’t like that a film designed to be projected at 48 nits should exceed that number just to sell television technology. The only good HDR is the three-flash/exposure process of the scanner.

True, but there are UHD releases that don’t have HDR. So you could present theatrical TPM in SDR in full 2k and with the advantages of wider color gamut, bit depth, and higher chroma resolution, thus getting it that much closer to how it would’ve looked projected in 35mm. The upscale to 4k, if done correctly, would look pretty transparent to the original source. If viewed on a 4k tv, a 1080p signal is going to get upscaled to UHD resolution anyway, either by the player or the tv.

Gimme that for the theatrical prequels and the ‘97 SE’s.

YAREL_RGP said:

JadedSkywalker said:
Even Phantom Menace, yes the prequel. If it was restored theatrical cut, I would buy it day one if it didn’t have the foolish DNR and cgi Yoda. Or the extended edits that slow down the pace. If it had the same mix as the audio on the laserdisc.

Yes, and besides, I don’t understand the need to release a UHD version of something that was originally scanned at 2K to add CGI effects and then reprinted on film, especially since some parts were filmed digitally at 1080p. I think the theatrical version of TPM should be released on Blu-ray with the grain and color intact, without any upscaling, and it should be available alongside the “Special Edition” of TPM.

UHD’s of 2k-finished films still have advantages over regular blu-ray. Because of home video’s 4:2:0 subsampling, you’re actually seeing a 2k movie at almost its full chroma. The data rate can go up to a hundred or so mpbs vs fifty for bd. You also get greater color space, bit depth, and, for what it’s worth, 2k is slightly higher than hd.

A 2k movie can look great on UHD as long as they don’t screw it up. Oblivion is one example I’ve heard of where the resolvable detail of the UHD is actually botched compared to the blu-ray.

I’d love to see what they could do with a theatrical TPM on UHD. Even if the original unaltered digital filmout tapes weren’t backed up and aren’t readable anymore, they could still just scan the filmed out negative back in. As long as it was handled and stored well, it probably wouldn’t need much cleanup.

AotC and RotS, even though they were entirely digital, would still be interesting to see scanned in from film if the exact 1:1 digital backups of the theatrical cuts don’t exist anymore. Only a hundred or so theaters in the US were showing AotC digitally in May of 2002, and I’m guessing only a few hundred showed RotS that way three years later.

Oh, and the ‘97 SE of the OT with its photochemical finish would look incredible in 4k on UHD. The ideal treatment for each OT film, for me, would be the unaltered cut on one disc, the ‘97 on another, and a final cut (with every remaining vfx error and transparency fixed along with whatever final changes George wanted to make) on a third.

Broom Kid said:

Looks good in here 😃

You have no idea the joy it would bring me to get THX 1138 and American Graffiti, in the same quality as these presumptive Star Wars remasters.

Honestly, are these two the last holy grails? Or wait - is there a 35mm scan of Graffiti out there? I THINK there is but I’m not sure.

I know there’s a sort of hybrid fan-restoration of 1138 (uses 16mm and Laserdisc or something like that) but at this point a real restoration of 1138 might be the only thing left on the bucket list for Lucasfilm

THX-1138 would need to be rescanned in 4k for a UHD, assuming it wasn’t done years ago and has just been sitting there waiting to be finished and released. I can’t help wondering if the reason we still haven’t seen a UHD blu-ray release after almost a decade into the format is because George wants to redo the cg.

I’d love to see it get the Criterion treatment, and even Graffiti could theoretically get a redo on disc. I mean, we’re getting Star Wars freshly transferred in 4k yet again, so anything’s possible.

Could the re-recordings of the score be for a Special Edition 2.0?

I feel like there’s zero chance they’d painstakingly restore the picture for an unaltered restoration while not also using it as a basis to freshly redo the SE yet again.

That Fox cue in ANH has always sounded out of place with the other movies. Maybe they finally aim to correct that.

Gotta say, I really only like the idea of a 7.1 remix being done for the SE. The unaltered picture restoration should also feature the unaltered sound, but then we run into the problem of which one to use (70mm six track, 35mm dolby stereo, or mono).

timmaaaah said:

I’m kind of shocked at the news considering all the marketing. They even hijacked the last IMAX screening I went to with a mandalorian themed countdown to promote it as “Made for IMAX”.

In today’s age of entertainment mismanagement and marketing fuckups I shouldn’t be surprised, but I’m stumped as to why they’d do this to themselves. Seems massively impractical.

Seeing a big-screen Mandalorian entry as a movie was actually kind of exciting, even though I hated S3.

I think you must’ve misread something.

My reaction to your post was “first I’m hearing of this, but also that makes no sense.”

After some googling, the “news” is that if Mandalorian and Grogu flops, then Filoni’s planned sequel (aka the “Untitled New Republic Movie” aka “Mandoverse Crossover” aka “Heir to the Empire”) will be reworked as a miniseries.

Something that would be interesting to see in these comparisons are GOUT screenshots and, for what it’s worth, screenshots of fan preservations that used the earlier ld releases.

Different methods of sdr conversion will produce different results.

LilBigJP said:

Hey all, I keep hearing there’s some behind the scenes transcript that dropped alongside the videos?

There was a transcript of an interview where it was mentioned they were doing a new 7.1 mix using alternate audio takes in certain places, if that’s what you’re referring to.

There’s also a half second or so of technical jargon at the start of each clip.

JadedSkywalker said:

If we can get the original Star Wars trilogy in 4K why stop there. Restore American Graffiti and THX 1138. From the techniscope negatives.

Yeah, that will never happen but It would be a nice thing. We could just pretend the existing 1998 cut in 4K slathered with DNR for American Graffiti does not exist.

Do you think maybe the reason we haven’t seen THX-1138 in 4k just yet is because Lucas already wants to redo the 2004 cg in 4k? The 2004 and 2011 Changes for Star Wars got redone for the UHD (most of them anyway, I don’t know about Jabba in ANH). As far as I know, THX was only finished in HD for the dvd just like the OT, and they both hit shelves the same week in 2004.

If this latest OT restoration turns out to be real, and if it is I have to imagine this will be the last one for the foreseeable future, maybe George will once again use it as an opportunity to remaster his first movie.

It would be hilarious if Universal for some reason double-dipped on Graffiti but I don’t see it happening.

timdiggerm said:

I also wonder if they won’t do a purist version (original effects) and a nicer-looking version (original but recomposited effects), with the latter being what gets released in theaters.

I would hope they leave it alone completely.

There’s no reason for a nicer-looking version when the SE exists. If we want to keep any fixes while getting rid of what we don’t like, well, that’s what places like this are for.

Historical preservation would be my priority. That’s why it kinda bothers me that they’re apparently doing a 7.1 remix with alternate takes and whatnot. If that was only being done for the latest SE I wouldn’t care, but if that’s what would be heard in a dcp of the “unaltered” version then we’re getting into revisionism territory.

JadedSkywalker said:

doubleofive said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Verboten said:

It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.

Yeah. The Indiana Jones 4K was recomposited according to Damn Fool Idealistic Crusader.

I started a VisComp, Indy was not recomposited, the bluescreen elements have been rotoscoped from the final composite and stretched and warped to cover up the matte lines. It’s hilarious in A/B comparisons.

That’s not what we’re seeing here.

I stand corrected. So What they cgi rotocoped them? It’s like having to play Columbo.

I want to say that might have been a Paramount decision and not George or Steven.

They also made a couple fixes to the theatrical version of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, which was completely needless when there was an entirely separate version being prepared in 4k for that exact reason.

Verboten said:

It’s darkly amusing to me that I’m already reading stuff about this release, like re-composited effects shots and alternate dialogue takes, that means it won’t pass some peoples’ purity test.

From what I’ve read, it doesn’t sound like they’ve recomp’d anything but simply gone back to the finished VistaVision interpositives.

Even the alternate dialogue takes, while not staying true to how the films were originally heard, are apparently only being used for a new 7.1 track. While that would make the audio less of a strict remaster and more in the nebulous category of “restoration,” the earlier stereo and mono tracks are said to be earmarked for inclusion on any eventual disc release as alternative options.

At this point, with actual video clips publicly viewable, Lucasfilm might as well just start intentionally teasing us over the next couple years.

I dunno, maybe combining Obaid-Chinoy’s and and Kinberg’s and Levy’s takes on whatever they want the “post-saga” story to be could end up as a good thing. We all complained that George surrounded himself with yes men when he made the prequels, but I don’t exactly consider the sequel trilogy the most collaborative project either.

Look at how Cameron handled the Avatar sequels. The writers broke the story together and then were each assigned an individual film for which to write a screenplay. That would’ve been a great way to go about making the prequel and sequel trilogies, I’d only add that each film should’ve had a different director.

Rogue One and Solo, messy as they are, are examples of how intervention from the producers can actually turn out well. The difference this time around will be that rather than retooling these films after principle photography, they go through different writers and directors before greenlighting anything. That’s not necessarily a bad approach, it’s just that they’ve had to spin their wheels with the endless streaming shows in the meantime which has been incredibly hit or miss.

That actually brings me to what I’d do, and it’s what I think George should’ve done with the franchise after the mid-80’s. He actually had the right idea with the Ewoks tv movies and the Ewoks and Droids animated shows. Those all told fun side stories that would never contradict a continuation of the main saga. I know George claims he’d decided in ‘83 to officially make VI the end of the story and didn’t change his mind until decades later, and I’ll take his word for it, but either way he should’ve just stayed away from the post-RotJ era altogether and not authorized any media telling the further adventures of our heroes. As big of a deal as Episode VII was when it actually ended up getting made, it could’ve taken on mythic status had the fans been left without the pre-existing old “legends” EU to compare it against.

Instead, and this applies to the current state of things as well, jumping back into the past and telling stories set thousands of years earlier and sticking only to that era would’ve been a much bolder move. I know that’s antithetical to how franchises operate, yeah you always want to please these fans and those fans, but storytelling shouldn’t get sacrificed on the altar of marketability.

If they’re really going to make Mangold’s Dawn of the Jedi film, I’d almost say just make that the new saga and stick to that era. They’ve had so much time to figure out the Rey movie that I’d just say make it the definitive epilogue to I-IX and leave that time period in the galaxy far, far away alone forever.

Anakin94 said:

YAREL_RGP said:
There is no 2K scan of the special edition trilogy, the restoration was all analog and physical,

And how the 2004 SE was made?
AFAIK it’s based on the 1997 SE 2k scan.

No, the only things that got scanned in for ‘97 were anything getting vfx added to them or if they were existing vfx shots that were getting recomposited.

The entirety of the OT films weren’t scanned in until it came time for the dvd release. Lucasfilm had the camera negatives scanned in at 2k at a post house and then did their color correction (such as it was) and ILM made whatever additional changes George wanted.

This was then sent off to Lowry who restored the movie in 1920:1080 HD and full RGB.

David Fincher’s recent remaster of Seven was done at 8k.

Ang Lee’s last two films were shot and completed in 120p 3D.

James Cameron decided to shoot the Avatar sequels in 48p 3D and motion grade to 24p depending on the shot. Like I said, he applied the motion grading tech to certain scenes in Titanic and the first Avatar so they’d look smoother when projected in high framerate.

Cameron even let Park Road Post use their AI on the existing 4k master of Titanic from 2012, presumably just to see how much detail it could bring out. The 4k remaster of The Abyss used their tech as well. They also (rather shamefully imo) took the existing 2k masters of Aliens, True Lies, and the original Terminator and ran them through the AI to upscale them to 4k instead of at the very least using a fresh 4k scan of the negatives like they did with The Abyss. The original Avatar is effectively stuck at 2k simply by virtue of how it was made and the 4k is an AI-upscale as well.

So yeah, precedent exists for all of this but not a combination of all three like this random rumor claims. There’s no mention of 3D, but c’mon, The OT are now the only Star Wars films not converted into 3D. I can’t imagine a 120p master being created without 3D factoring into it somehow.

I’m also leaning towards them having heard the term “8k,” which was mentioned in the alleged leaked document Eck showed a little clip of, and conflating that with 120p and AI and somehow thinking they were talking about the unaltered versions when, ahem, such a process would make them no longer the original versions anyway.

But future-proofing the SE and maybe the entire saga? That I could see as a possibility, although I don’t think I want to know what the finished in 2k PT looks like upscaled to 8k.