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#1289390
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series
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Tobar said:

Works for me, it’ll probably lead right up to the release of TROS.

If they put up the first two or three episodes all at once, like The Handmaid’s Tale has been doing each season, they would probably get through the whole season in time for TRoS’ release in theaters if the streaming service launched at the very beginning of November.

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#1289189
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I hope the story doesn’t involve time travel, but that the Whills factor into it in some way, even if it’s just at the very end with Artoo giving them the “journal” of everything that happened throughout the saga.

Didn’t Mark Hamill say in an interview back in the early 80’s that George had told him the ending of IX (or at least IX as it existed in George’s head at the time before he basically folded everything into RotJ) and that Mark thought it was “really weird?”

Whether that was the Whills, or the ending I’ve heard BSG ripped off (finding Earth “a long time ago”), or this microbiotic world George mentioned last year, who knows?

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#1289164
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

At the very least, Filoni introduced Novikov self-consistency principle-style time travel. Basically, it is time travel, but they can’t really alter the past. What happened, happened. The Prisoner of Azkaban is a really good example of this.

A part of me likes to think Filoni introduced time travel this way to Star Wars so “what happened, happened” are the canon rules and no future writers can write canon stories that change the past! Pretty clever I think.

Has the nu-Canon said anything about Anakin’s birth, etc?

Going by the “what happened, happened” rules of time travel, The saga’s grand finale could, if it wanted to, turn the whole I-IX story into a causality loop, hence the title The Rise of Skywalker.

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#1288861
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I mean, there’s also the matter of George saying rather definitively, circa RotS’ release, that I-VI is all there is, only to completely walk that back when he realized doing a sequel trilogy was the best way to keep the franchise going after the live action tv series never got off the ground.

So I don’t really know who’s to blame.

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#1288782
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series
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I think they literally mean in-camera. Favreau said there’s a video wall that extends the background of the set by displaying it in parallax. So as the camera moves around the set the game engine perfectly changes perspective to complete the illusion.

It’s basically like that scene in Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol, just with camera-tracking instead of eye-tracking.

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#1288579
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Star Wars '77 70mm theatrical screening signed off by George Lucas himself!
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The bigger discussion that kinda does warrant its own thread is just how much control George does or doesn’t have over this sort of thing now. Isn’t it a little suspicious that for all those years when he still owned LFL he never allowed screenings of the OOT and now that he doesn’t anymore he “granted his permission?”

Like I said in the other thread, it was probably just a formality by the Academy considering their long history with George going all the way back to Graffiti. Notice how Disney hasn’t been mentioned at all in regards to this news?

All of this assumes, btw, that John Dykstra wasn’t just joking when he said they had to get George’s permission. I wonder if anyone managed to capture video/audio of him saying that.

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#1288500
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Star Wars '77 70mm theatrical screening signed off by George Lucas himself!
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Really it just makes an official restoration from Disney all the more conspicuous in its absence.

Lucasfilm has access to even better materials closer in the photochemical chain to the camera negative than the Academy’s 70mm blow-up, although the fact it’s in such good condition means it should probably be preserved if only because it could be the best remaining record of all the picture and sound differences in that version of the movie for all we know. That is of course unless this print is different still from the ‘77 blow-ups and conforms closer to the 35mm prints in terms of content.

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#1288277
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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SKot said:

So when I first heard about this showing at the Academy, I scoffed and said there was no way they were getting the original, because no one ever got the original. At the time I didn’t know about the 70mm factor. I watched the live stream video of the panel and enjoyed it. But then…then I heard that the print shown not only WAS the original edition, but it was also in 70mm! And I completely missed out on the opportunity.

Some day, universe. Some day.

–SKot

This reminds me all too much of that time I noticed a new thread on these very forums with a title having something to do with a screening in Baltimore … and didn’t even bother clicking on it since I didn’t want to get my hopes up and have them dashed for the umpteenth time.

Naturally, that was the now infamous IB Tech screening at the Senator Theater on its last day under those owners. I couldn’t believe I’d inadvertently passed up such an occasion. Baltimore was barely an hour away from me, and I totally would’ve made the trip had I known in advance.

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#1287551
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Yeah, but Kathleen Kennedy would probably just “ask for his permission” to include a nicely remastered OOT. It probably still wouldn’t look as good as George’s preferred version if, for example, this newest iteration of the SE is from the camera negative and the OOT is from seps or some other source. So George wouldn’t have to worry about the OOT being presented in superior quality to his preferred version. But even if, let’s say, they were at almost equal quality, with both versions using as much of the o-neg as possible, I still don’t know why George would care at this point.

Just as long as, y’know, they “ask his permission first.”

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#1287347
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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ChainsawAsh said:

I thought ESB and ROTJ were still the “4.2” six-track?

Maybe someone can chime in and clarify this.

Apocalypse Now was the first movie to be mixed in 5.1 when it was released in August of ‘79, less than a year before Empire’s release. It’s possible they kept mixing Empire and Jedi in the older 4.2 configuration since the 5.1 format hadn’t become the standard yet.

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#1287327
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Interesting that the poster refers to the 70mm six-track sound as “stereophonic.” Spielberg also referred to Lawrence of Arabia’s 70mm sound format as such when he recently talked about seeing it in late ‘62 or early ‘63 when he was 16.

As far as I know, Lawrence’s 70mm mix would’ve simply had five tracks behind the screen and one surround track. Star Wars’ 70mm mix would’ve been an early example of the “baby boom” configuration of Left, Center, Right, and Surround, with the left-center and right-center channels handling the bass. I guess you would call this 4.2.

By the time we get to Empire in 1980 I’m assuming the 70mm mix was in 5.1, ditto Jedi in ‘83, but I could be wrong.

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#1287290
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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A couple questions about the sound mix, now that we’re on the subject.

Could someone refresh my memory as to the difference with Threepio’s infamous tractor beam line? When it cuts to the animation on the screen do you simply hear him say nothing in one version and “a power failure at one of the terminals will allow the ship to leave” in the other?

My other question is about the monomix and just why it was put together in the first place. Wasn’t the theory about certain theaters needing the monomix debunked or am I remembering wrong? I thought the stereo optical track would’ve been backward compatible with all the existing sound systems in use at the time, mono or otherwise, but I could be wrong.

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#1287216
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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captainsolo said:

I would think that if there had been that clause there would have also have been the use his ideas for the sequel trilogy clause.

Even putting all of that aside, the thing people keep forgetting is that George’s single biggest gripe wasn’t so much about having the unaltered versions out there (although he clearly disliked the idea), it was about paying for a proper remastering job. That’s why we got the GOUT instead of a decent dvd release.

He even said in 2010 or early 2011 that the initial bd release wouldn’t include the unaltereds because they were “too expensive to restore right now.”

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#1287190
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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How do we even know John Dykstra wasn’t joking when he said George “gave permission”?

Anyway, this screening by the Academy can only be another good sign as far as I’m concerned, but like Mocata said, I’m not getting my hopes up.

I wonder why the film tear in the 70mm print happened to … happen during the death star explosion. Maybe that was a reel changeover…

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#1287046
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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ChainsawAsh said:

emanswfan said:

digitalfreaknyc said:

So…

A little birdie told me the 70mm print is from 1984 so it shouldn’t have the fade…but it is definitely the original film.

So I’m guessing that means no original crawl tho? And would the mix be the same as a 1977 70mm print, or a more refined mix closer to the mono?

I’d be surprised if it was anything other than a duplicate of the same 70mm blowup master from 1977, so it should have the same sound mix and the 1977 crawl.

Would they have kept the ‘77 crawl if the print was made after ‘81?

I guess we’ll find out tomorrow.

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#1286872
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Correction to whatever I said earlier, since the back-to-back screenings (are they showing RO and SW in release order or chronological order?) are on Saturday and the other event is tonight.

Still, the very subject matter of the event tonight puts the spotlight on SW’s analog effects, a large part of which was erased for the SE.

Meanwhile, the screenings on Saturday, as someone already pointed out, aren’t exactly being done by some random theater, it’s the freakin’ Academy.

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#1286703
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70mm print of GOUT on Saturday in Academy Theater in CA!
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Kiri Hart still works for Lucasfilm as do at least some of the people in attendance, right?

Would this be the first sanctioned screening of the original version since before 1997?

I recall hearing a story once about how George himself was at a screening he thought was going to be the SE and it was still the original version and he appeared visibly uncomfortable about it. That was a story from some random person on the internet though, and I don’t remember now where I read it, so take it with a grain of salt.