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Fang Zei

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#1255171
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Cassian Andor Live-Action Series
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Been meaning to chime in on this news since it was announced several days ago, so here it goes.

I think we all knew we hadn’t seen the last of Rogue One’s characters, with plenty of time in the twenty years pre-ANH to explore their backstories.

Now we know what the other tv series they first mentioned months ago will be. Ever since it was reported that Kathleen Kennedy met with Reed Morano at Sundance this year I’ve been envisioning a Handmaid’s Tale type of show exploring how people were indoctrinated into the Imperial way of life in those first years following Order 66. Showing us a single shot of some officers on the bridge of a Star Destroyer at the very end of RotS always felt like a bit of a cheat to me, so here’s hoping we see that developed a little more at some point.

This and The Mandalorian seem to be the entire focus of live action Star Wars at the moment, aside from Ep9. With no big screen productions in the immediate pipeline for after the ST’s finale, 2020 is looking like it will be the perfect hiatus year for Lucasfilm to focus on streaming content. I’m not going to hold my breath for an OOT restoration as well, but I’d love to be surprised.

I wonder if those 50 to 60 hours worth of tv episodes for the show George was developing a decade ago ever see the light of day in any form. Someone upthread mentioned Ron Moore as their dream showrunner. Did you know he was writing one of those episodes?

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#1255167
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4K77 vs. Despecialized - Tatooine Outdoors
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ChainsawAsh said:

Fang Zei said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Fang Zei said:

Putting aside the GOUT issue, I’m really just curious if 3.0 will simply be the unaltered stretches of the blu-ray (color-corrected, or course) using only the 35mm scans for the parts that were altered. For example, there are still some ‘97 recomps in the most recent version of the despecialized ESB if I’m not mistaken.

I would hope we finally have a viable alternative, but that may have to wait until Poita’s project is done.

I’d be surprised if poita’s project releases before 4K80.

Isn’t 4k80 already expected to take a while?

Yes, but - and I mean no disrespect to Poita here, he does great work, has helped the community in immeasurable ways, and his real-life job keeps him busy, not to mention the various health problems he’s had - of all the film scanning projects he’s begun over the many years he’s been active here, how many of them have actually been finished and released?

The movie theater where I work does a Star Wars marathon for the employees-only every year at the end of November / beginning of December, one movie per night. This year it will be Rogue One, OT, TFA, TLJ, in that order. Last year they simply hooked up a bd player to the 2k cinema projector and the sound system and used the official blu-rays. In one of the previous years they hooked up a laptop to watch despecialized, or so I’m told.

I’d love to change things up a bit this year but I don’t want to use despecialized for the OT since it’s stuck at 720p. So I’m wondering if I should just go with TN1’s OT or if the ideal lineup for now is 4k77 non-DNR 1080p, ESB Grindhouse, 4k83 non-DNR 1080p.

Yeah, that seems like a good way to do it. The official 1080p Blu-Ray releases of 4K77 and 4K80 will be out in a couple weeks, but then again, that’ll be the DNR 4K77 and a new pseudo-DNR 4K83 (with adjusted contrast and reel change markers removed), so you might wanna stick with the 1080p MKV versions instead.

Sorry, was “4k80” a typo?

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#1255067
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4K77 vs. Despecialized - Tatooine Outdoors
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ChainsawAsh said:

Fang Zei said:

Putting aside the GOUT issue, I’m really just curious if 3.0 will simply be the unaltered stretches of the blu-ray (color-corrected, or course) using only the 35mm scans for the parts that were altered. For example, there are still some ‘97 recomps in the most recent version of the despecialized ESB if I’m not mistaken.

I would hope we finally have a viable alternative, but that may have to wait until Poita’s project is done.

I’d be surprised if poita’s project releases before 4K80.

Isn’t 4k80 already expected to take a while?

The movie theater where I work does a Star Wars marathon for the employees-only every year at the end of November / beginning of December, one movie per night. This year it will be Rogue One, OT, TFA, TLJ, in that order. Last year they simply hooked up a bd player to the 2k cinema projector and the sound system and used the official blu-rays. In one of the previous years they hooked up a laptop to watch despecialized, or so I’m told.

I’d love to change things up a bit this year but I don’t want to use despecialized for the OT since it’s stuck at 720p. So I’m wondering if I should just go with TN1’s OT or if the ideal lineup for now is 4k77 non-DNR 1080p, ESB Grindhouse, 4k83 non-DNR 1080p.

Any advice would be welcome.

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#1255051
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4K77 vs. Despecialized - Tatooine Outdoors
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Putting aside the GOUT issue, I’m really just curious if 3.0 will simply be the unaltered stretches of the blu-ray (color-corrected, of course) using only the 35mm scans for the parts that were altered. For example, there are still some ‘97 recomps in the most recent version of the despecialized ESB if I’m not mistaken.

I would hope we finally have a viable alternative, but that may have to wait until Poita’s project is done.

Is ESB Grindhouse the only 35mm-based preservation of Empire that’s currently out there?

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#1254790
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4K77 vs. Despecialized - Tatooine Outdoors
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It was mentioned upthread that Despecialized 3.0 will be “entirely 35mm based.”

Does this mean 3.0 will finally be the “best of both worlds” version? In other words, the unaltered 70-80% of the bd color-corrected, with the 35mm scans used for the stuff that was altered, and none of Harmy’s meticulous recreations nor using the ‘97 re-comp shots in place of the true originals?

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#1254706
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FINALLY watching the GOUT Trilogy properly
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crissrudd4554 said:

Fang Zei said:

Speaking of which, did we ever determine what film element the unaltered GOUT crawl would’ve been scanned from?

Lucasfilm’s form response letter at the time stated that existing prints were in “bad condition” or something to that effect, but they didn’t exactly help their case by splicing in a newly transferred piece that looked just fine to me.

I’m curious if it’s a recreation after watching this video. In the GOUT the SW logo fades out sooner than it does on 4K77 and the SSE.

https://youtu.be/P1b47UP6ZGI

Does anyone want to chime in on this?

I’m curious myself.

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#1254511
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With 20th century almost in Disney’s grasp what are the odds of an OUT release?
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Any legal barrier that was in their way is now gone, or at least it will be once the deal is officially finalized.

The time will eventually come to put out I-VI (and TFA and Rogue One) on 4k UHD. Whenever that ends up happening will be our earliest chance at seeing a restored OOT. If they were going to double/triple-dip the 2011 discs by including a 1080p OOT (like they did with the ‘04 dvd by including the GOUT), they would’ve done it by now.

Of course, now that the Fox buyout is on the way to being finalized I suppose anything’s possible. Maybe they’ll finally restore the OOT in 4k and just put it out on regular 1080p blu, maybe with a remastered SE to go along with it. But when the time comes for the OT on UHD you can bet they’ll include the unaltereds in all their glory.

Being able to watch the SE in 4k hdr, now with a fourth round of changes, just isn’t going to be much of a selling point for a sizable percentage of the fans.

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#1254349
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FINALLY watching the GOUT Trilogy properly
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Speaking of which, did we ever determine what film element the unaltered GOUT crawl would’ve been scanned from?

Lucasfilm’s form response letter at the time stated that existing prints were in “bad condition” or something to that effect, but they didn’t exactly help their case by splicing in a newly transferred piece that looked just fine to me.

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#1251999
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Would Lucasfilm have made new SW films with or without Disney?
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When TPM 3D was on its way to theaters back in early 2012, the idea was that each year we would get the next entry in the saga.

At the time, I remember my assumption was that in 2017 when RotJ hit theaters we’d be hearing about them starting pre-production on Episode VII and that it would be shot in native 3D with stereoscopic camera rigs Cameron style.

I totally figured George would use the 3D post-conversion of I-VI as a test run of what he wanted to do with the ST. It would’ve been like 1997 all over again.

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#1251835
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Would Lucasfilm have made new SW films with or without Disney?
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IIRC, back in 2011 George was going to build his own studio somewhere on the grounds of Skywalker Ranch, but the neighbors objected and he decided to build low income housing instead.

We didn’t find out until after the Disney deal that the real reason he wanted his own studio space was so he could make the ST right there in his backyard.

Maybe I’m not remembering the timeline of events clearly, but I want to say Kathleen Kennedy became president several months before the Disney buyout and that part of the reason George hired her was because he was selling the company (which, again, the rest of us wouldn’t find out until later).

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#1239524
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Was that second bit in response to my post about returning to this thread?

Not at all, and like I said it was within six months before TLJ hit theaters that I ended up reading that spoiler (which turned out to be fake), not more than a year out like we are now with Episode IX.

I’m wondering now where that story originated.

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#1239367
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

Fang Zei said:

Yeah, the ST has made it 2/3 of the way through without referencing anything about the OT that’s version-specific.

Was there ever any truth to that rumor from two years ago about Hayden as ghost Anakin showing up in TLJ?

Nope. Johnson has mentioned that he basically decided against the possibility completely as soon as he thought of it. I think the rumors started from a piece of concept art from TFA. But even then it was never seriously considered - the concept artists always come up some of their own ideas during development that sometimes get worked in, but that piece never made it past that one artist’s rendering as far as I can tell (well, I guess it ended up in the Art Of book).

Fascinating.

Yoda showing up was pretty much the only thing I spoiled for myself that turned out to be true aside from finding out in the wake of Carrie’s death that Leia ends up in a coma with Laura Dern’s character in charge, but even then I had no idea there would be this “on the run” storyline and just assumed they’d be down on D’Qar the whole time.

Actually, the spoiler I was really kicking myself for reading after peaking into the TLJ spoiler thread a little over a year ago - that Rey would lose a hand in true middle-chapter-of-the-trilogy tradition - turned out not to be true at all.

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#1231754
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The Disney/Fox acquisition....
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Jedi Master Skywalker said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Jedi Master Skywalker said:

the problem now is getting rights for the films from Turner Broadcasting

What? Why on earth do the cable broadcast rights matter?

they own streaming rights.

I don’t think they own the streaming rights. The deal was for broadcast only. I just looked on the tnt app and they’re not on there.

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#1231396
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The Disney/Fox acquisition....
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ronwlim said:

I have no doubt we’ll get the original versions, but I meant 100% unaltered: Fox fanfare. original non-logo Lucasfilm title, no “ANH” crawl. The 1977 version.

-Ron

I feel like all of those things would be there regardless. If they can scan in the unaltered opening crawl just for the GOUT, then surely it would be there on an actual OOT restoration.

They’d probably just use a source that’s pre-97 anyway (like the separation masters), unless they have a truly foolproof way of scanning the SE-conformed o-neg and making sure they can tell the unaltered shots from the altered ones.

The guy from Fox at that Disney restoration presentation said that the pieces of the o-neg removed for the alterations were put in storage, but didn’t Michael Kaminski say in his article that certain shots in the o-neg had faded completely because of the nature of the specific stock used for those shots? So they’d need to go to an alternative source like seps or interpositives for some of those shots regardless. I think the big expensive restoration of The Godfather used the o-neg primarily and used seps for the shots that were too faded/damaged.

As for pittrek’s memory, he’s probably referring to that via satellite interview with Iger that cnbc (or whichever cable channel) did way back in 2014 or early 2015. The interviewer asked something to the effect of whether we might see a release of “the original Star Wars” and Iger smiles just a little and says something like “y’know, that’s not a bad idea.”

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#1230178
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Mike O said:

Well, I look at it this way:we might bet the OOT before we ever get The Abyss and True Lies on Blu-ray. Whoopee.

At this point they’re probably just waiting for the right time to put it out on 4k.

Edited to clarify: I was talking about The Abyss and True Lies, not the OOT.

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#1229870
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Collipso said:

can the holiday special be remastered in HD? i thought it had been shot on tape, therefore that would be impossible. what about the ewok movies and the 80’s cartoons, can those be HD?

All the live action stuff in the holiday special (which is most of it, IIRC) was shot/finished on standard def videotape*, yes. The animated sequences might benefit in some way if they were shot on film first and those elements still exist in storage somewhere, ditto for the 80’s cartoons.

The Ewok movies can absolutely benefit from HD and even 4k**, since they were shot on film (presumably 35mm).

*pretty sure this was analog videotape too

**Don’t say it’ll never happen! We already got the Peanuts specials released in 4k UHD with both SDR and HDR versions included, and I’m pretty sure at least one of the Ewok movies actually got a theatrical release.

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#1229647
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Disney to buy 20th (21st) Century Fox? (Disney has now bought them - 14 Dec '17)
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Mocata said:

The theatrical release of the OOT is probably treated with contempt like the old EU now.

Yeah, but they still kept the old EU in print under the “legends” banner, didn’t they?

I know it’s not a perfect 1:1 analogy I’m making here, but if Disney sees money in something that doesn’t really matter to them anymore in terms of their current goals for the franchise, they’ll do it.