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Spartacus01 said:

Something bad has happened to me recently, and I wanted to bitch about it, because I think that it’s not even my fault.

Basically, there’s a girl I started talking to a few months ago. I have met her online. As soon as we met, we immediately connected, and for a couple of months we texted each other every day and talked every day. We were really interested in each other. This girl comes from Turkey, while I come from Italy. But she told me that she would have moved to Italy next year with her family, because they wanted to leave Turkey and start to live in Italy. We even planned to meet once she came to live in Italy.

However, a couple of months ago she told me that she had to take some exams at university, as she studies medicine. Now, I’m a quite person who always tries to be kind. I don’t like to argue with other people if it’s not necessary. I’m a person who likes to leave their space to others, therefore, I thought that it would have been best not to text at all until the exams were finished. And so I did. I didn’t text her until her exams were finished. When her exams were finished, she texted me again, and she was not angry about the fact that I didn’t text her for the whole time. In fact, she studied a lot and she actually never had time to be online anyway, so she was not angry with me about that. Since she was not angry about that, I started to think that acting this way would have been better. That is, texting her exclusively when I knew that she was free, while trying to leave her alone when I knew that she was busy. This way - I thought - I wouldn’t have disturbed her when she was busy, and I would have done a good thing by giving her some personal space when she was doing something else.

After she finished her exams, we started to talk again for a couple of weeks. But after a couple of weeks she told me that she was going to visit her grandparents and her cousins, who live in Iraq. Since she would have been temporarily in another country and would have been with her family often, I thought it would have been best not to text her at all, so as to allow her to have free time with her family and give her some space. I thought it would have been best to wait until she returned from Iraq, and start to talk with her again exclusively after she returned. However, apparently she didn’t even bothered to tell me that she returned to Turkey in the first place. And since I didn’t know that she was back at home, then I didn’t know that she was available to talk again. Since I didn’t know that, I obviously didn’t text her for another month, being completely unaware of the fact that she was back. And during this month, she didn’t even remotely thought of texting me once, not even to say “Hi”, or something.

Giving that I didn’t text her (despite the fact she was back), she started to think that I don’t care about her anymore. Now she started to hate me, and told me that it was a mistake to be interested in me. She’s telling me that I’m a horrible person, that I don’t give a shit about her, and that she doesn’t want to talk with me anymore. But… Why? I mean, I was in good faith. She’s the one who didn’t even bother to tell me that she was back, so it’s not my fault if I didn’t text her. I simply didn’t know that she was available to talk again. I always tried to be super-kind, cute, available, mature, and not clingy. And despite this, now I’m forced to hear that I’m a horrible person who doesn’t give a shit about people and doesn’t know how to treat a girl.

I just hate this whole situation.

There’s nothing worse than a romantic partner who expects you to read her mind. Sorry about what happened there. I hope you find someone who isn’t gonna treat you that way.

Changes list updated. Gonna do some more testing on the edit.

Just when I thought the list was done, I find four more things to change.

Let’s cut to the chase. The first one is small, but it works. I moved Abigail Craven’s “I never should have used him” scene. In the original, Fester changed his mind, brought out the props to Wednesday and Pugsley, and then we cut to Mrs. Craven wondering where her son went. This may have worked theatrically, but because I shortened so much of the film, it made more sense to throw a pause before Fester gives the children their props. So now, Craven’s scene comes first, then Fester giving the kids the props. To do otherwise made Fester’s change feel too sudden. We go from him telling the kids, “go away.” to “I’ve changed my mind.” within the span of only a couple scenes, and it makes his change seem more random than it needs to be.

Change #2 is also a different scene placement. This one is more important than the last. In The Addams Family, Gomez went into an emotional conversation with Fester on his belonging to the family. The scene itself was great as is. But placing it before the children’s play sequence wasn’t the best spot for the scene. I decided to move this conversation to the end of the night, after Fester tucks Wednesday in to bed. Climaxing the night of the school play with Fester and Gomez’s conversation is a great way to conclude that sequence, and the emotional resonance is stronger.

For change #3, I have to talk about the transition from the first movie to the second. One criticism I hear about fanmixes are that they can feel like two movies thrown together, and that’s also been a challenge for this fanmix. The beginning of the Addams Family Values section is vulnerable to this problem due to the shift from Fester to Pubert. I moved the “Strange Men and the Women Who Avoid Them” reading to an earlier point. Even after that, the birth of Pubert still felt like the simplicity of the edit was being taken away after the climax of the previous film. So, I moved the reading all the way to the beginning of the Values section. Right after Fester howls at the moon. This way, the edit establishes that while Fester is free from Dr. Pinderschloss and Tully, his character arc is still incomplete. The viewer has an excuse to keep watching after the Addams Family half is over. Of course, the next few smattering of scenes are going to leave you wondering how all of this stuff about Pubert is gonna tie in to Uncle Fester.

Which leads me to change #4, and it’s another heartbreaking removal. I’ve made a lot of those with this one. I deleted the “he has my father’s eyes” scene. Why? It has to do with a lot of things. The first movie was Uncle Fester’s film from start to finish, and because Fester was set up so much, it carried into the Addams Family Values section of the film too. The payoff of Values didn’t work, because it felt like we were setup with Fester only to payoff with Fester, Wednesday, and Pubert. This gave it a similar issue to Full Metal Jacket where the first half of the movie is better than the second. In order to improve the payoff, I placed all the focus on Uncle Fester for the Addams Family Values half instead. Which brings us back to the deletion of change #4. After Pubert is born, the viewer is bound to ask why we’re moving away from Fester after following him for the last 80 minutes. It became clear that Debbie needed to be introduced ASAP so that the reason for all this talk about the baby is answered, and the story doesn’t lose track. This is also why I cut out things like the guillotine, the stuff about one of the kids having to die, and the previous nannies. We needed to meet Debbie sooner rather than later.

That’s all for now. Hopefully, these are the “final” final changes. I’ll update the changes list soon.

I’ve now updated the changes list. I might go back and alter something else if I find anything that stands out, but I have a good feeling that this is the final list.

Revised Changes

/=Changed
-=Removed

The Addams Family

-The William Tell scene
-The Uncle Knick-Knack scene
-The finger trap introduction
-The sales weather scene
-Trimmed out the last two shots of Gomez singing opera due to the next scene’s deletion
-Wednesday and Pugsley playing with the electric chair
-Slightly trimmed Gomez rowing the boat due to the previous scene’s deletion
-Wednesday turning on the electric chair
-The auction scene
-Morticia’s discussion with Wednesday’s schoolteacher
-Fester making things for the school play
-Gomez and Morticia’s discussion with Margaret and her son before the school play
/Kept the blood during the talent show scene red for added comedic effect
-Gomez and Morticia’s “Someday we’ll be buried side by side in matching coffins” romantic discussion
-Cousin It’s arrival at the mansion (Including the rap song)
-Uncle Fester’s farewell to the Amor twins
-Margaret saying goodbye to Cousin It
-The “because we’re Addamses” speech
-The lemonade stand skit
-Morticia’s job interview
-Pugsley and Wednesday’s lemonade discussion with the girl scout
-Morticia’s Hansel and Gretel story
-Thing’s shameless FedEx product placement montage
-Gomez watching TV
-Gomez calling Sally Jessy Raphael
-Morticia trying to help Gomez to stop watching the TV
-Thing’s journey back to the motel
-Gomez and Thing driving up to the mansion
-Seven months later epilogue and end credits

Addams Family Values

-Pugsley, Wednesday, and Granny burying a live cat
-Opening Title
-Thing’s rollerskating tricks
/Moved Uncle Fester’s reading of “Strange Men and the Women Who Avoid Them” to after Pubert gets his teddy bear
-Pugsley and Wednesday’s discussion on one of them having to die because of Pubert’s birth
-Pugsley and Wednesday dropping Pubert and the bowling ball
-The family’s talk about Pugsley and Wednesday’s treatment of Pubert
-The guillotine scene
-All the babysitters prior to Debbie
-Trimmed out Amanda’s parents, the camp counselor introductions, and shots of the kids conversing
-Wednesday and Amanda’s swimming lesson
-Trimmed out Gomez and Morticia’s dance
-Wednesday’s ghost story to Amanda and the kids
-Audio: A Wedding?
-Wednesday, Pugsley, and the camp’s discussions on Fester’s wedding, the group hug, and the sensing of friction
-Wednesday, Pugsley and Joel’s visit to the harmony hut
-Wednesday, Pugsley and Joel’s failed escape attempt from the camp
-The Wedding Cake scene
/Moved Wednesday and Joel’s romantic talk at the lake to after the wedding
-Gomez and Morticia wondering why Fester hasn’t responded in weeks
/Changed all scenes of Debbie’s mansion pink instead of green for added comedic effect
-The Thanksgiving play casting call
-Thanksgiving play rehearsal scene
-Wednesday, Pugsley, and Joel’s second visit to the harmony hut
-Wednesday’s smiling scene
-”Eat us” music number
-Wednesday’s attack on the Thanksgiving play
-The “Macho Man” scene
-Lurch playing “Happy Birthday to You”
-Wednesday scaring Joel to death

/Replaced all rap music during end credits with music from the soundtrack
/Music replacements during end credits: “A Party…For Me?” and “Finale”, both from the official Addams Family soundtrack composed by Marc Shaiman
/Customized end credits to include cast and crew from both films

Remainder of Addams Family: 77 minutes
Footage cut from Addams Family: 22 minutes

Remainder of Addams Family Values: 57 minutes
Footage cut from Addams Family Values: 37 minutes

Total Running time: 143 minutes
Total footage removed: 59 minutes (Excluding end credits)

Done some work on the end credits. Still got a long way to go, and still pondering how best to deal with Pablo Ferro’s contributions to both the opening and ending credits, as the two films have different cast lists.

Just tested the soundtrack I got off eBay, and I’m happy to say it’s in fantastic condition! The disc played perfectly, and the data surface looks like it’s almost never been played (even though I don’t rely on that, since it’s common to find a disc that’s been refurbished by unreliable scratch removers). Plus, of the 13 tracks, I found 7 that could work as replacements for the end credits music. I may not even need to buy the Addams Family Values soundtrack because I have plenty to work with on this one.

While I’m still testing out which cuts I want to make, I decided to do some more work on the color grade. There are some instances where I’ve made a few… Differences from the norm. I still have to decide how much of it is worth it or not, but I think this is off to a great start!

One area where I’ve decided to differ from the black, white, and green aesthetic is with the school play scene. I’m not sure how much content I can get away with. However, I think this shot will give the fans a good idea of what I’m doing:

https://github.com/PurpleMetal75/demonstration-images/assets/77859966/978b778b-9c58-4543-80ec-4d79e5542fa0

I’ve decided to try and keep the blood red (or at least, as red as I can make it) for two reasons. 1. The blood is harder to see with my current aesthetic, and 2. The scene is so much funnier if the blood looks red. I have to confess, though, that getting the blood to look right has been insanely hard. Even now, I’m still not sure if it looks right. The hardest areas are Wednesday’s arm, where the blood gushing out of it still looks kind of pixellated. I’m not sure how to fix it right now, and I’m not sure how to improve it. I’d show it, but I want to make sure my post isn’t too inappropriate for the forum, so if you want to see the full scene and give me some feedback on how to improve the blood effects, send me a PM.

Another thing I’ve altered on the color grading is Debbie’s mansion.

https://github.com/PurpleMetal75/demonstration-images/assets/77859966/6665fc7d-967c-40a2-a727-3ec8570524ef
https://github.com/PurpleMetal75/demonstration-images/assets/77859966/a4274dff-973a-4e50-b12d-d08417558efa

Much like the blood, I decided to tint Debbie’s mansion pink (or as close as I can get to pink. Damn computers) for more comedic effect, especially Morticia’s “Pastels?” line. It also makes for a good contrast between the pale green of the Addams mansion and the pretty pink of Debbie’s. I haven’t decided if this is the best way to handle Debbie’s mansion (and if someone wants to offer up another alternative, I’d be happy to hear it), but I think this is a good start for now.

Now that I’m an approved faneditor, I feel like now is a perfect time to start branching out and doing more than just two edits. This will count as my first official fanmix. The mix in question, cara mia? 1991’s The Addams Family, and it’s 1993 sequel, Addams Family Values.

I enjoy both movies (With Values being the rare sequel that’s better than the first), and I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen if you put the two together. I’ve kept the focus on Uncle Fester’s character arc from both movies, because I think that’s the best approach to stitching these two films. However, I had to make some sacrifices (the Thanksgiving play from Values is one of them, I’m saddened to say) and shorten down the runtime in order for it to work (194 minutes is overkill). This edit is not designed to be a compilation of highlights from the two films. It’s intended to be its own thing.

Also, I decided to play around with the color grading and change things from full color to black-and-white-and-frankenstein-green, giving homage to the original 1960s TV show. There are a few exceptions (And I’ve recently uploaded some of those exceptions in my own gallery which you can find in the URL below:

https://forums.fanedit.org/media/albums/addams-family-chronicles-color-grading-stills.234/

However, for the majority of the film, here’s a test I’ve uploaded to give you an idea of the color grading I’m planning to do:

https://youtu.be/c3XNBS3n3bw

Hopefully, that should be enough to keep your curiosity “undead” while I work on it. However, I have some issues and obstacles to face with this edit. The biggest one is… The credits. Right now, the opening credits are from The Addams Family, while the end credits are from Addams Family Values. So the cast list is inconsistent. I also hate the idea of changing the opening credits due to the lettering of the late Pablo Ferro. His style of lettering is untouchable, and I fear there is no way to replicate it due to its hand-drawn nature. However, if someone has a suggestion on how the opening credits can be customized, I would love to know about it. I think I’ve taken care of the end credits, though, so that’s good.

Here’s my official changes list. I may go back and alter something if I find it, but I think this might be the final list until further notice. As there are no deleted scenes on either of my blu-ray discs, I will not be including any additions (and no, I don’t have The Addams Family with more mamushka, and I don’t see any reason to extend it anyway). No plus sign for this one.

Changes list (Updated 7-7-23)

/=Changed
-=Removed

The Addams Family

-The William Tell scene
-The Uncle Knick-Knack scene
-The finger trap introduction
-The sales weather scene
-Trimmed out the last two shots of Gomez singing opera due to the next scene’s deletion
-Wednesday and Pugsley playing with the electric chair
-Slightly trimmed Gomez rowing the boat due to the previous scene’s deletion
-Wednesday turning on the electric chair
-The auction scene
-Morticia’s discussion with Wednesday’s schoolteacher
-Fester making things for the school play
-Gomez and Morticia’s discussion with Margaret and her son before the school play
/Moved Miss Craven’s “I never should have used him” scene to after the first scene of “Getting to Know You.”
/Kept the blood during the talent show scene red for added comedic effect
/Moved Gomez and Fester’s discussion on Fester “belonging here” to after Fester tucks Wednesday in to bed
-Gomez and Morticia’s “Someday we’ll be buried side by side in matching coffins” romantic discussion
-Cousin It’s arrival at the mansion (Including the rap song)
-Uncle Fester’s farewell to the Amor twins
-Margaret saying goodbye to Cousin It
-The “because we’re Addamses” speech
-The lemonade stand skit
-Morticia’s job interview
-Pugsley and Wednesday’s lemonade discussion with the girl scout
-Morticia’s Hansel and Gretel story
-Thing’s shameless FedEx product placement montage
-Gomez watching TV
-Gomez calling Sally Jessy Raphael
-Morticia trying to help Gomez to stop watching the TV
-Thing’s journey back to the motel
-Gomez and Thing driving up to the mansion
-Seven months later epilogue and end credits

Addams Family Values

-Pugsley, Wednesday, and Granny burying a live cat
/Moved scene of Uncle Fester’s reading of “Strange Men and the Women Who Avoid them right after Fester howls at the moon
-Thing’s rollerskating tricks
-Pugsley and Wednesday’s discussion on one of them having to die because of Pubert’s birth
-The “He has my father’s eyes” scene
-Pugsley and Wednesday dropping Pubert and the bowling ball
-The family’s talk about Pugsley and Wednesday’s treatment of Pubert
-The guillotine scene
-All the babysitters prior to Debbie
-Trimmed out Amanda’s parents, the camp counselor introductions, and shots of the kids conversing
-Wednesday and Amanda’s swimming lesson
-Trimmed out Gomez and Morticia’s dance
-Wednesday’s ghost story to Amanda and the kids
-Audio: A Wedding?
-Wednesday, Pugsley, and the camp’s discussions on Fester’s wedding, the group hug, and the sensing of friction
-Wednesday, Pugsley and Joel’s visit to the harmony hut
-Wednesday, Pugsley and Joel’s failed escape attempt from the camp
-The Wedding Cake scene
/Moved Wednesday and Joel’s romantic talk at the lake to after the wedding
-Gomez and Morticia wondering why Fester hasn’t responded in weeks
-The Thanksgiving play casting call
-Thanksgiving play rehearsal scene
-Wednesday, Pugsley, and Joel’s second visit to the harmony hut
-Wednesday’s smiling scene
-”Eat us” music number
-Wednesday’s attack on the Thanksgiving play
-The “Macho Man” scene
-Lurch playing “Happy Birthday to You”
-Wednesday scaring Joel to death

/Replaced all rap music during end credits with music from the film
/Music replacements during end credits: “A Party…For Me?” and “Finale”, all from the official Addams Family soundtrack composed by Marc Shaiman
/Customized end credits to include cast and crew from both films

Remainder of Addams Family: 77 minutes
Footage cut from Addams Family: 22 minutes

Remainder of Addams Family Values: 57 minutes
Footage cut from Addams Family Values: 37 minutes

Total Running time: 143 minutes
Total footage removed: 59 minutes (Excluding end credits)

Submission approved! 🥳 All interested parties are free to PM me.

CaptainFaraday said:

Eyepainter said:

To give Empire more representation to marginalized groups, change the infamous “No. I am your father.” to “No. I am your gay lover.”

No, no, no, it would be “No. I am your father’s husband.”

This makes the morality of the movie much more grey, because Luke’s reaction now makes him look kind of homophobic.

But we can’t have common sense in a thread like this. That would ruin the point.

To give Empire more representation to marginalized groups, change the infamous “No. I am your father.” to “No. I am your gay lover.”

Had some technical difficulties with the submission process, and going to try submitting it again. Sorry for the inconvenience. But hopefully, the second time’s the charm.

I think the edit is ready! I will most likely have the edit sent for submission tomorrow.

Just finished the second test. Everything looks good now! I’m gonna add a chapter selection I forgot to include, tag ArtisDead’s uncensored poster to the file, look for any finishing touches I forgot to add, and prepare to export the file for submission.

fmalover said:

Eyepainter said:

fmalover said:

Seriously, I don’t get why everyone is so dismissive of The Lost World: Jurassic Park. It’s my personal favourite.

I could write a whole novel explaining everything that’s wrong with it, but that would turn this into the popular opinions thread.

Feel free to DM me, then.

Okay, then. Give me a few weeks to write it. It’s that long.

fmalover said:

Seriously, I don’t get why everyone is so dismissive of The Lost World: Jurassic Park. It’s my personal favourite.

I could write a whole novel explaining everything that’s wrong with it, but that would turn this into the popular opinions thread.

CourtlyHades296 said:

Jurassic Park III is the second best film in the franchise, behind only the first one. This film is aware that it’s meant to not be taken as seriously, and is a fun ride from start to finish.

I don’t consider III as one of the best movies in the franchise (I’ve only seen the first four, so that’s where my knowledge lies), but I still thought it was a lot of fun, and of the original three JP films, I thought it was the better sequel. III wasn’t boring to watch, it had a good sense of self-awareness, and it tried to capture the magic and wonder of the first movie, which was one of the biggest mistakes The Lost World made.

CaptainFaraday said:

I’ve decided I want this thing finished. I’m going to rewatch my current cut of TLJ:SE, tidy anything that needs to be tidied, and then just damn well pay someone to do the remaining VFX work. Does anyone have any suggestions for somebody good? It’s one insert shot of the plomme bloom on DJ’s jacket, and the opening crawl.

I’m afraid I don’t. But it’s always good to see something new on this thread, so I’m not complaining.

Just gave the edit a test. I found some inconsistent brightness changes between the many different film overlays, so I’m correcting those issues now. The audio commentary turned out just fine. Gonna give the edit a second test over the weekend.

Ladies and gentlemen, the commentary track is now 100% complete! 🥳

It’s taken an inhumanely long time to work on, but it’s finished, and that means we should be looking at this edit finally getting a release soon! I will now begin work on the special thanks for everyone who assisted or helped out, and prepare for the export stage, all of which should be much faster than the commentary track.

I will be submitting my edit through fanedit.org for approval. Once the edit is given the green light, I will be happy to send PM’s.

Vultural said:

Has anyone moved to Win 11? Thoughts?

I built my PC with Windows 10, and it had 11 compatibility, so I upgraded it. My general impression is that it isn’t a huge leap. Most of what’s changed are that the boot up screen has fancier animation now, which isn’t saying a whole lot. It’s 10 with prettier effects.

JackNapier said:

The film Guardians of the Galaxy 3 is a fantastic ending to a heart warming trilogy. It’s a must see and a masterpiece. Thanks James Gunn for all the fun and heart.

I completely agree. I just watched 3 yesterday, and honestly, I think it might be the best movie in the trilogy! I respect that they went to the dark side with this (and not just in some sugar-coated way that I expected from a Disney-owned property), and the change in tone made me appreciate the sillier moments when they showed up as well. The villain was unlikable in the best way possible. And Rocket’s backstory got me shedding a few tears too. In a sea of lackluster post-Endgame MCU efforts, this is arguably the best Marvel movie we’ve had in a while (unless you want to count Spider-Man: No Way Home). I highly recommend this one, and I hope we get more movies like this from the MCU (although admittedly, I doubt we will).

fmalover said:

Eyepainter said:

I hope Part Two lives up to my high expectations for it! I’ve read the book, and if Part Two is as faithful to the book as Part One, it’s gonna be quite a masterpiece.

Gender-swapped Kynes still irritates the shit out of me.

Honestly if the word “Jihad” isn’t uttered it will only confirm Denis Villeneuve is a coward.

Wow. Somebody’s bitter.

And for the record, if all it takes for you to call a director cowardly is the use of a controversial post-9/11 word in a movie about giant worms and hallucinogenic spice, maybe you should go on Twitter instead.

I hope Part Two lives up to my high expectations for it! I’ve read the book, and if Part Two is as faithful to the book as Part One, it’s gonna be quite a masterpiece.

Yeah, can’t really call myself a hardcore fan of anime here either, although I’ve tried in the past. I find that my favorite anime is usually the kind that dares to differentiate from the norm (the norm either being a bunch of boys trying to fight to become the ultimate warrior or attempts to be so cute and adorable it leaves you feeling uncomfortable. Also something about friendship, I guess). Most of Studio Ghibli’s stuff is an example of going for different, as well as Akira and Grave of the Fireflies (although I’m gonna need a strong stomach to watch the latter again). I’ll also give a shout-out to Cowboy Bebop, which definitely went all the way for different as well. Lastly, and I’m not sure this counts, but I also enjoy the Shin Megami Tensei video games, more specifically the Persona franchise. Those games keep me wanting to know what happens next.