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- Batman Forever: The Eyepainter Fanedit (Complete)
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Got the first 20 minutes of subtitles taken care of! 107 more minutes to go!
At last, an update! 😁
I know, right? Not much is really happening after I uploaded the deleted scene upscales, and I think the edit is pretty close to complete at this point. All I have to do now is a bunch of subtitle work and maybe even a commentary track as well.
Beginning work on the subtitles now.
Nope, not this time. I’m also trying to make an english subtitle track for this one (a first for me), and Gomez and Morticia speak french quite a bit. Trying to spell cara mia and mon cher is not as easy as it sounds.
Hamsters.
Hamsters on coke.
I’m sorry to hear that. Death sucks… A couple people I graduated with in 2017 died within a year, including one close friend. It isn’t fun. However, I think it’s taught me to appreciate every moment with those I love and to make the best of my time with them, knowing that it could always be the last time.
I may be autistic, but as someone with my own loss, this was also the most important thing I’ve learned from it. The best thing one can do is treasure the people who are in your life, even if that number is small.
Almost 40 minutes into the commentary track, and just started work on the subtitle track. I gotta say, all that french is making things difficult. 😆
Now for the last two deleted scene upscales!
…And once again, a big thank you to Bobson Dugnutt for the upscales!
Time for another upscale demonstration! This scene hasn’t changed much from the original, although I did extend the opening and closing.
Going back to the sex stuff, I got a positive diagnosis for autism spectrum disorder level 2 in June, which finally explains why I also have such a hard time finding a romantic relationship, let alone having sex. Of course, I’m interested in trying it out because it’s great for stimming, even though there’s the risk of sensory overload due to my mind being the way it is.
I can’t speak for everyone for obvious reasons. Even though I have a strong attraction to women with colored hair (pink, purple, blue, etc.) for some reason, I don’t like the idea of loveless sex of the kind Spartacus described either. I think the correct terminology for people like this is demisexual, although I’m not 100 percent on that.
Hamsters.
About half an hour into the commentary track now! I’ve decided to upload a demo of the edit due to the riskier decisions I’ve made so far. If you’re interested in giving me your thoughts, PM me, and I’ll send you the link for review.
Here’s the upscaled version of deleted scene 1. The sound effects have been changed from the previous SD version in accordance with CamSMurph’s suggestions. Let me know what you think.
And lastly there’s deleted scene 7. I debated this one since I didn’t understand what was going on, but after reading Bobson Dugnutt’s thoughts on the scene, I’m leaning towards including this one into my edit.
Oh yeah, and spoiler alert!
Back for more! Here we are with deleted scene 5 and the first clip to get the upscale treatment!
Next, we have deleted scene 6! This is the most important addition to the film, and also the hardest deleted scene I’ve worked on. I added three music tracks (Yes, you heard that right), and a bunch of sound effects too.
Pains me to do this, but after talking with Zarius over on fanedit.org, I have decided to cut out the singular deleted scene from the abandoned editor’s cut. He provided a good argument against it and felt that it wasn’t as necessary as I hoped it would be. I will be updating the changes list, and the scene where Alfred receives the news about Stickley’s death is gonna be left as-is.
On a positive note, Bobson Dugnutt has loaned me his HD upscales of the deleted scenes. I will be re-uploading the (surviving) deleted scenes and throwing in their updated versions when I have the time.
Still waiting on Bobson Dugnutt to PM me his deleted scene upscales. For now, here’s some more music and SFX tests on my deleted scenes so far.
This first one is the only deleted scene that came from the abandoned editor’s cut. I suspect that the news announcer is ThatGuyWhoEdits himself, and this scene was created by him. I liked it enough, and I think setting up the gang for later makes for a nice bit of foreshadowing. This is the only deleted scene in 1080p. However, It’s also compressed due to the source. I’ve left this one untouched for now, but I suspect it needs work.
https://vimeo.com/847526534?share=copy
This next scene has been left untouched, save for Bruce Wayne’s kick at the end. There might be some issues, but I think it works.
Here’s my work on Deleted Scene 2:
Why do you think “The Pull of Regret” fits this scene?
Three reasons:
It’s quieter than most of what’s on the soundtrack, making it easier to hear the dialogue.
The shift in tone places more emphasis on this moment, giving it more importance to Batman’s character arc.
It makes the action sequence as a whole less cartoonish and noisy, and gives it a more serious tone which is what this film needs.
Here’s my work on Deleted Scene 2:
Here is the first of the deleted scenes. The reason for testing them is because of the music and sound effects that I have added in, as the deleted scenes I have contain no music and incomplete sound effects.
https://vimeo.com/846132879?share=copy
And for those who are wondering, yes, the deleted scenes I have are in SD 480p. I don’t have the money or the storage space on my PC for Topaz. If you would like to upscale them, send me a PM, and I’ll be happy to send you the scenes. I’d appreciate it.
Not bad. I would suggest lowering the volume of the thunder cracks, and muffling them to an extent, so we can hear the dialogue as clearly as possible. Also, add some electricity crackling and lamp creaking SFX.
On another note, I like the choice of music you went with!
Thanks! Sound effects are a much trickier issue for me. I’ll get to work on seeing what I can do about it.
Here is the first of the deleted scenes. The reason for testing them is because of the music and sound effects that I have added in, as the deleted scenes I have contain no music and incomplete sound effects.
https://vimeo.com/846132879?share=copy
And for those who are wondering, yes, the deleted scenes I have are in SD 480p. I don’t have the money or the storage space on my PC for Topaz. If you would like to upscale them, send me a PM, and I’ll be happy to send you the scenes. I’d appreciate it.
After some discussion with my pals on fanedit.org, I’ve decided to take on Joel Schumacher’s 1995 guilty pleasure, Batman Forever.
As the sentence above suggests, I enjoy Batman Forever, but not because it’s good. So-bad-it’s-good is the best description I have for it. But for obvious reasons, I’ve wanted to see a version of the film that is decent at least. I’ve watched a few edits of Batman Forever over my time in fanediting, including the acclaimed Red Book Edition. However, my favorite edit of the film was by a faneditor named ThatGuyWhoEdits. I was given the honor to review it for any issues, and it was my favorite take on this troubled film to date. While it did have some flaws, the many strengths far outweighed them, and actually made the film… Watchable.
But alas, it was never released. I’m still not 100 percent on what happened, but my good friend ArtisDead said that ThatGuyWhoEdits got a harsh response from someone, and he ghosted and bailed on the project. The edit was never released, and I was left with a highly compressed must-see.
This is what brings me to the present. I had a lot of faith in The Editor’s Cut and wanted to give it the justice it deserves. After talking with ArtisDead and Bobson Dugnutt, I’ve decided to make my own fanedit of Batman Forever, using the abandoned Editor’s Cut as a main inspiration. I have changed a few things (and you can find what’s different in the changes list), but for the most part, this edit is a close approximation to The Editor’s Cut, and one that I hope does both ThatGuyWhoEdits and this movie proud.
In addition to the edits I’ve made, I also decided to compete with the color grading of the Red Book Edition by throwing in my own style. I’ve desaturated the reds, greens, and blues to black and white. Thus, only the yellow, cyan, and magenta colors remain in full color. This gives the film more of a Frank Miller vibe, and in a lot of ways, the color palette reminds me of The Dark Knight Returns. It also gives the film a darker tone that is desperately needed. I have thrown together four color grading examples below to give you an idea of what I’ve got so far:
https://youtu.be/a5nWM4EkRk4
https://youtu.be/m7XXCoMx070
https://youtu.be/B7bjPuV23xY
However, some scenes needed reds at times, mostly for the red book scenes and the Robin scenes. So I slightly resaturated the reds in those moments. This example is one Robin moment (My favorite, by the way). I didn’t like Robin’s helmet being black-and-white during this scene, which is why the resaturation was needed for this to work.
One thing I should note is that the deleted scenes I have are in the dreaded SD 480p, and they’re in need of an upscale. They also lack music and sound effects. This edit will be a first for me in the sound effects department, since I’ve never added in SFX to an edit before. I will be uploading the deleted scenes of my edit onto this thread in the future for sound editing purposes and to get some feedback on what I’ve done to them. Also, if any of you have Topaz, I will be happy to send you my Deleted Scenes file for upscaling.
Otherwise, I think that’s everything for now. The changes list is down below.
++= Added
–= Deleted
//= Altered
// Desaturated the red, green, and blue hue vs. sat curves for a less colorful comic book style (Partially inspired by the Red Book Edition and the works of Frank Miller)
++ Deleted Scene 1: Two-Face’s escape from Arkham (Inspired by the Red Book Edition)
++ Added thunder and lightning sound effects to Deleted Scene 1
++ Added Holy Rusted Metal to Deleted Scene 1
// Moved Edward Nigma’s introduction to scene 2 (Inspired by thatguywhoedits)
– Dialogue only: “Oh No!”
– Dialogue only: “Oh no! It’s boiling acid!”
– Dialogue only: “No!”, “Hold on!”, “Yes!”
– Dialogue only: “Gimme your hand!”, “Don’t let go!”
– Dialogue only: “Hey! Hey! That’s my hearing aid!”
– Dialogue only: “My shoes are melting! Ohh!”
– Dialogue only: “Ohhh! Nooo!”
++ Deleted Scene 2: Extended helicopter footage of Two-Face’s opinion on Batman’s “I don’t kill” ethos (Inspired by thatguywhoedits)
++ Added punch sound effects to Deleted Scene 2
++ Added The Pull of Regret to Deleted Scene 2
// Moved Edward’s “demonstration” on Mr. Stickley to scene 4 (Inspired by thatguywhoedits)
– Dialogue only: “Hang on!”
– “Ooooh, nice form, but a little rough on the landing. He may have to settle for the bronze.”
– “I couldn’t possibly continue on here! The Mem… Ories!”
– Deleted Edward Nigma’s first apartment scene
– ”I’ve really gotta get you out of those clothes…”, “Excuse me?”, “…And into a black dress.”
// Moved Dr. Chase Meridian’s naughty little usage of the bat-signal to the 45-minute mark for better comedic effect (Inspired by thatguywhoedits)
– Dialogue only: “Last night at the bank…”
++ Deleted Scene 3: Bruce Wayne seeing Robin’s vengeance-filled kickboxing practice on Two-Face (Inspired by thatguywhoedits and the Red Book Edition)
++ Added bigger (and louder) cracking sound effect on Deleted Scene 3
– Deleted second action sequence between Two-Face’s minions and Batman
– Deleted Edward Nigma’s third apartment scene
– Deleted Robin’s questionable laundry cleaning antics (Those poor clothes are gonna be stretched out badly if he keeps doing that to them)
– Trimmed out Robin’s attempt to convince the hookers that he’s Batman
– Dialogue Only: “Batman!”
++ Deleted Scene 4: Bruce Wayne fears that Batman is his enemy
++ Added The Pull of Regret to Deleted Scene 4
– Deleted the Riddler’s baseball throw
– “Joygasm!”
++ Deleted Scene 5: Bruce Wayne confronting his fear
++ Added some scary monster SFX on the bat in Deleted Scene 5
++ Added The Pull of Regret to Deleted Scene 5
++ Added Mouth to Mouth Nocturne to Deleted Scene 5
++ Added Batterdammerung to Deleted Scene 5
– The Bat-ass
++ Added scary monster SFX from Deleted Scene 5 to the bat shot demonstrating the Riddler’s descent into madness
++ Deleted Scene 6: Does it ever end?
Current Running Time: 126 minutes
What do they call text commentaries? 🤔
Commentaries that are done via subtitles instead of audio.
Test went well! I think the changes list is officially complete! Next thing I’m gonna do is work on the subtitles and a text-only commentary. Wraith suggested going for text-only instead of audio to me, and I think I’ll take his advice! Audio commentaries are tedious for me (not to mention slow due to my disinterest in recording audio), so I might as well go for text instead. Hopefully, writing text is faster than recording my voice.