Eyepainter

Mario said:

Eyepainter said:

The original ending to my edit isn’t in and of itself bad. However, there were things I didn’t know about editing back when I worked on Episode I. One thing I didn’t know was how to restructure and rearrange entire scenes. That was something I didn’t learn until Episode II forced me to. The arrangement of Episode I’s ending for v1 and v2 was pretty much exactly as it was theatrically. However, the arrangement and cutting between the four story lines was excessively messy in the theatrical version as well. So, for v3, I wanted to get those scenes rearranged into something that was simpler and easier to follow.

I decided to tackle the four endings using a three-act-structure approach, which is pretentious language talk for basic writing 101. I would start with the first act and set up the four plotlines (which ended up just as it was theatrically), then get into the second act where the conflict parts of all four storylines go on (and also where the changes officially begin), take all four storylines to their lowest point (A.K.A. the gungans lose, Anakin gets hit, Obi-Wan loses his lightsaber, etc.) and finally reach the resolution of all four plotlines by giving them a third act. My hope is that restructuring the endings this way will make the ending a lot simpler and easier to follow than it already is.

As for the Gunga city scene, don’t expect a major overhaul. It is just two extra shots after all. However, it may pad out the scene a little more.

I like the suggestion about Anakin hearing Qui-Gon’s voice, but there’s a problem with how fast the scene goes by. There aren’t any shots long enough to contain Qui-Gon’s line until after Anakin has sealed the control ship’s fate and gone flying his way out. Most of the shots in the theatrical version before Anakin shoots his way out are very short. I think most of them are only one or two seconds on average. It would be a really cool idea if it could be done, but I’m not sure how at the moment.

I had never a problem with the structure of the final battle, but I’m really looking forward to see what you have do with your edit. I will enjoy it 😏 The point with Qui Gons Voice is correct. The scene is too short.

Yup. I was afraid of that. Anyway, I’m sending the PM for the lossless version now. I’ll see if I can upload the compressed version today once I get off work.

EddieDean said:

I’d love a link please!

On its way!

Lossless is online now. I have to go to sleep for work tomorrow, but I plan on getting the compressed version online tomorrow as well.

Expand on Greedo shooting first by taking out and re-editing all of Han Solo’s most cold-blooded and badass moments so that he’s a nicer person.

Anyway, testing on the compressed version for v3 is complete. Overall, it looks good enough. There are a few shots here and there that have the stairstepping effect, but I think that’s a natural consequence of the file being reduced to 720p. Overall, it looks good for a small file.

I’m uploading the lossless version right now. Once that’s done, I’m gonna see if I have enough time today to upload the compressed 720p version.

Here are the specifications for the lossless 1080p version:

File type: MKV
Resolution: 1920x816
Audio tracks: FLAC 5.1 surround and FLAC 2.0 stereo
Frame rate: 23.976hz
Running time: 1 hour and 32 minutes
File size: 11.3 GB

Mario said:

Eyepainter said:

You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

I do agree to a certain extent with the Gungan city trip scene. Although the trip to Gungan city was always an awful one, and highlighted a lot of the things that everyone hated about Jar Jar. I did add a shot or two of Jar Jar back into the movie for v3 to fix the pacing issue somewhat, although it’s still likely to be an issue.

I appreciate that you enjoyed Anakin’s relationship with his mother. My own mom died of colon cancer while I was editing Episode II. Her health was already failing while I worked on Episode I, and I think a lot of the emotional turmoil going on with the family influenced my editing decisions for Anakin’s relationship with his mother throughout the prequels.

I’m also glad that you enjoyed the ending, even if it wasn’t 100% what I intended. I’ve restructured the ending to v3 to fix some of the pacing issues, add in more of l8wrtr’s influence, and give the ending a more complete feel. I’m curious to see how v1 and v2’s ending compares with v3. I’ll be happy to send you the link once I’ve released it.

I’m curious how you will handle the Gunga City scene in v3. I am think it is best to remove the scene completely, as Hal9000 did for example.

I would like to express my condolences to you. I know how you feel. Either way, I find the scenes between Anakin and Shmi in episode 1 and 2 beautiful and important to Anakin’s character, and they offer emotional depth.

What exactly do you dislike about your end? I saw the edit of l8wrtr a long time ago. I am very curious what you have planned.

I think it would be great if we could hear Qui Gons voice in before Anakin destroys the droid control ship. Qui Gon’s “Feel. Don’t think. Use your instinct”, would fit very well. Just like Luke hears Ben’s voice before the destroys the Deathstar.

I’m happy to receive the link to v3.🙂

The original ending to my edit isn’t in and of itself bad. However, there were things I didn’t know about editing back when I worked on Episode I. One thing I didn’t know was how to restructure and rearrange entire scenes. That was something I didn’t learn until Episode II forced me to. The arrangement of Episode I’s ending for v1 and v2 was pretty much exactly as it was theatrically. However, the arrangement and cutting between the four story lines was excessively messy in the theatrical version as well. So, for v3, I wanted to get those scenes rearranged into something that was simpler and easier to follow.

I decided to tackle the four endings using a three-act-structure approach, which is pretentious language talk for basic writing 101. I would start with the first act and set up the four plotlines (which ended up just as it was theatrically), then get into the second act where the conflict parts of all four storylines go on (and also where the changes officially begin), take all four storylines to their lowest point (A.K.A. the gungans lose, Anakin gets hit, Obi-Wan loses his lightsaber, etc.) and finally reach the resolution of all four plotlines by giving them a third act. My hope is that restructuring the endings this way will make the ending a lot simpler and easier to follow than it already is.

As for the Gunga city scene, don’t expect a major overhaul. It is just two extra shots after all. However, it may pad out the scene a little more.

I like the suggestion about Anakin hearing Qui-Gon’s voice, but there’s a problem with how fast the scene goes by. There aren’t any shots long enough to contain Qui-Gon’s line until after Anakin has sealed the control ship’s fate and gone flying his way out. Most of the shots in the theatrical version before Anakin shoots his way out are very short. I think most of them are only one or two seconds on average. It would be a really cool idea if it could be done, but I’m not sure how at the moment.

Mario said:

Hi Eyepainter.

I saw v2 and really enjoyed it. You cut a lot things that I wouldn’t cut, but that’s personal taste. Your edit is really fast paced and flows fine. Most of the cuts are seamless. A few cuts are a little bit too fast for me. For example the trip to Gunga City. Things that I really liked: The way how you completely removed R2D2 and C3PO from the entire movie. The farewell between Anakin and his mother seems much more emotional in your edit. And the ending is handled very well. Not my favorite edit, but an really good FanEdit. Thanks for your hard work. LG Mario

You’re welcome! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

I do agree to a certain extent with the Gungan city trip scene. Although the trip to Gungan city was always an awful one, and highlighted a lot of the things that everyone hated about Jar Jar. I did add a shot or two of Jar Jar back into the movie for v3 to fix the pacing issue somewhat, although it’s still likely to be an issue.

I appreciate that you enjoyed Anakin’s relationship with his mother. My own mom died of colon cancer while I was editing Episode II. Her health was already failing while I worked on Episode I, and I think a lot of the emotional turmoil going on with the family influenced my editing decisions for Anakin’s relationship with his mother throughout the prequels.

I’m also glad that you enjoyed the ending, even if it wasn’t 100% what I intended. I’ve restructured the ending to v3 to fix some of the pacing issues, add in more of l8wrtr’s influence, and give the ending a more complete feel. I’m curious to see how v1 and v2’s ending compares with v3. I’ll be happy to send you the link once I’ve released it.

I exported v3 from Resolve on h.264, but when I converted the file to Handbrake and turned it into an MKV file, I found that the color grading looked off. So, I exported from Resolve on an 8-bit DNxHD file instead, and the converted MKV file from Handbrake looked much closer to the color grading I saw in Resolve, which is good.

That aside, I finished testing the lossless 1080p version just a few minutes ago. The conversion worked perfectly, and the FLAC 5.1 soundtrack sounds right (at least, for my TV stereo speakers). I will be testing the lossy, compressed 720p version with AAC 5.1 tomorrow. If all looks well on that version, I’ll be ready to release v3 for now.

As the Emperor falls down the reactor in ROTJ, have him scream, “I WAS YOUR FATHER THIS WHOLE TIME, LUKE!” before he implodes.

EddieDean said:

That’s grand, but don’t push yourself to satisfy your audience just for our own sake! You’ve put a lot of work into this and your thoughts deserve to be heard, so if that’s important to you then don’t compromise on our account! You’re the artist here buddy.

Don’t worry about it, Eddie. Testing and releasing is a lot easier than recording a commentary track (Trust me. Stage fright will never fail to make something harder). Worst case scenario, I find something that needs to be fixed before I send it out to the world wide web.

Speaking of which, Handbrake just had an update, and now, the DTS-HD option has been removed. However, there are a lot of new audio codecs available, so I’m gonna do some research on these newer codecs. FLAC looks like the most promising option, since it’s lossless and open source as well. AAC is still available, so I will still be using that for the compressed version.

EddieDean said:

Ooh is the final version of the edit available currently without the commentary? I’m looking forward to the commentary when it’s released but will definitely take the edit now without if it’s available!

Sadly, the version that’s out is v2. But given that it’s taking me an eternity to record the commentary track, I’m beginning to think it’s a good idea to release v3 sooner rather than later. Because everything else is done, there’s no point in delaying it for everyone on account of an audio track that isn’t complete yet. I can just release v3 ASAP, then when the commentary is officially complete, I can replace the v3 file with one that includes the commentary track. Seems like a win-win for everyone.

I’ll give the edit (sans commentary track) a test to see if it works, then I’ll send it out if everything looks right.

Mario said:

Could you send me the link to your edit please? 🙂

PM sent.

Commented my way through the first scene in Watto’s shop. Starting to make progress with recording the commentary. I’ll probably start commenting on the first deleted scene soon.

CaptainFaraday said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

JackNapier said:

Replace ROTS’ soundtrack with a combination of I am Machine by Three Days Grace and their album One X, in order to really give it that edgy feel.

Not Three Days Grace, but what about Paralyzer for Order 66?

I think this is the obvious choice for Anakin marching on the Temple and the clones executing Order 66.

Wrong. Everyone knows this is the true choice.

Commenting my way through Watto’s shop.

Looks like I have no one to blame but myself for misinterpreting Neerb.

Going back on topic…

Luke: They’re coming in too fast!
Han: They’re not gonna catch us. We’re on a mission from God.

Neerb said:

Hal 9000 said:

Just mute the whole line.

Unfortunately this can’t be done, as it creates a massive hole in the logical progression of the character-driven storytelling.

Well, that’s why it’s here in the worst edit ideas thread.

Pull a “Space Jam: A New Legacy” on people and turn the entire saga into an advertisement for all things Disney-related. Throw in cameos of all your favorite Disney characters throughout all nine movies and have them do awful pop culture references to be hip with the kids. Then, have every single Disney character sit in a booth to watch the death star battle in ANH for good measure. In fact, always have those Disney characters sitting in a booth somewhere to watch the action sequences. Whenever a lightsaber battle occurs, there will be Disney characters in the background. When there’s a space battle, there will be a bunch of disney characters in the background watching the action from space. When there’s a rescue mission, such as when Luke and Han try to rescue Leia in ANH or Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan rescue the queen in TPM, make sure there’s at least one Disney character watching this unfold somewhere in the background.

About to record my comments about Anakin Skywalker.

Replace every single line in the saga with “I have a bad feeling about this.”

Insert James Brown’s “Sexy Sexy Sexy” every time Anakin and Padme kiss each other.

DMC said:

Eyepainter said:

Just made it past the 10-minute mark on the commentary track. I think I’m starting to get the hang of it. I’m not feeling as freaked out about recording on the mic. Sure, I still have my moments, but I’m starting to lose that fear, which is good.

Thanks!

Commenting my way through the blockade scene now.

That guy with no name said:

CaptainFaraday said:

ANH, but all of Han’s scenes are replaced with scenes of Harrison Ford in the Indiana Jones films.

I dont know if I made myself clear, I am making a revisited edit of the first 3 Indiana Jones Movies.
Not star wars.

If that’s the case, then I suggest you take this topic to the “fan edits and projects for other properties” forum instead. This is the “Star Wars fan edits and other projects” forum, which is for Star Wars-themed edits only.

“You’ll never reach the outskirts in time. Sandstorms are very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very dangerous.”

Darth_Zounds said:

Hal 9000 said:

TFA
ANH
ESB
ROTJ
TLJ

wouldn’t be super bad.

In ROTS, Obi-Wan’s dialog can somehow be re-worked:

“Anakin has turned to the super bad side.”

Be sure to play the Bar-Kays “Too Hot to Stop” when he says it.