Eyepainter

Took out two of Kylo Ren’s lines due to changes I’ve made to the plot. The first line I’ve removed is “The girl I’ve heard so much about.” Mainly because the part where he learns about her doesn’t exist anymore in my edit. The second one is “…We have the rest. Recovered from the archives of the Empire, but we need the last piece.” This was done to fix a plot issue that came about thanks to my removal of Rey resisting Kylo’s force probing. Taking that line out means that neither the Resistance nor the First Order get a complete map of where Luke is. So the Skywalker map Kylo Ren gets out of Rey is incomplete, and he can’t do anything with it.

I’ve decided to say, “Screw it!” and take out Rey deciding not to sell BB-8 to Unkar Plutt. I also decided to go through the sound editing and take out Rey’s lines, “In the morning you go.” followed by “You’re welcome.”

I believe that removing this makes Rey just a little bit more of a jerk, which will tie in well when we find out about her family history in the later films. It also means that she’s not as perfect in the ethics department, moving her away from the Mary Sue issue surrounding her character.

Mrebo said:

I did this quick edit just to see the gag but I think it’s too jokey. I’m on the fence whether to keep that single Jar Jar moment at all, in its proper place, but definitely cutting the first tongue shot. I go between not liking the antics and thinking a Gungan creature is not theoretically a bad idea that can work if toned down.

https://streamable.com/mhwxv4

I’m leaning towards getting rid of that Jar Jar moment. I even cut that joke out of my own edit because (like a lot of Jar Jar moments) it distracts from the main focus of the scene, which is on Anakin and Qui-Gon in this case (and occasionally, Shmi and Padme).

Just watched my edit in full. I think the restructuring works. I’ll update the changes list sometime when I’m not working my day job.

Next, I’m thinking about removing Rey’s decision to not sell BB-8. It doesn’t seem to me like it adds much to Rey’s character (other than to make her look like a goody-two-shoes protagonist. Even then, I think that’s a problem, especially since we find out in Episode IX that

she’s a Palpatine).

The only problem now is that the remaining exposition about Rey waiting for her family makes for a very short scene, and my main concern is that it might be too short. So I’m torn between keeping a scene that may be better left on the floor, or risking messing with the flow and timing. I guess I’d like a second or third opinion on this dilemma.

oojason said:

Temporary lock. When I have time tomorrow… I’ll sift through the PMs in my inbox - and then the forum threads - supposedly with politics or offensive posts in.
 

Edit: thread unlocked.
 

Not much doing at all - though please knock it off with the politics…

Just in case some members have forgotten:-

“No politics; only light discussion of current events is permitted, and only in the Off Topic section”

Thank you. 👍
 

Understood.

Make the OT and PT come full circle by removing the Ewoks and substituting them with the Gungans.

Anakin Starkiller said:

CaptainFaraday said:

Eyepainter said:

Change the official logo of the resistance to a swastika, and digitally add one to the sleeve of every member of the resistance.

We may have just topped my Israel-Palestine idea for the actual worst edit idea in this thread.

No, Israel and Palestine is worse because it’s:

A) Current

B) Not an overused internet punchline

I object to the Starkiller’s statement! Overused internet punchlines will always be worse.

Mrebo said:

These ideas are all terrible.

I know. Isn’t it beautiful?
– Joker

Just looked at what I came up with for restructuring the 60-80 minute chunk of my edit. I like what I’ve come up with, but I may need to watch the edit in full again to ensure that it works as a whole. For now, I’ll post what I’ve done so far.

Here’s how the scenes were structured in the theatrical film:

Han and Leia meet again
Introduction to the Resistance
Chewie talking to the doctor
The incomplete map
BB-8 meets R2
Han and Leia talk about Ben
Kylo interrogates Rey
Kylo talks with Snoke
Rey escapes
Starkiller Base begins charging
Finn tells the Resistance about the base
The Resistance prepares for battle
Han and Leia say goodbye
The First Order searches for Rey
Han lands the Falcon

Here’s what I’ve done so far:

Kylo interrogates Rey (minus the part where Rey resists Kylo, making this scene much darker)
Starkiller Base begins charging
Han and Leia meet again
Introduction to the Resistance
The incomplete map
BB-8 meets R2
Han and Leia talk about Ben
Finn tells the Resistance about the base
The Resistance prepares for attack
Han and Leia say goodbye
Rey escapes
Han lands the Falcon

If I come up with any improvements to this sequence, I’ll post an update. If you have an interesting suggestion, feel free to post it here.

Change the official logo of the resistance to a swastika, and digitally add one to the sleeve of every member of the resistance.

Doing some more restructuring from the scene when Rey gets captured to the scene when Han lands the Falcon on Starkiller Base. I can’t decide if the lowest point in the film is Rey getting captured or if Starkiller base charging up is the lowest point. This area of the film is easy to structure poorly because so many scenes take an upward trajectory (such as Han meeting Leia again, Finn telling the Resistance about the base, Rey escaping, etc.), and if I move some of the more downward scenes to fix the structure, I risk creating continuity issues (Such as Starkiller base charging up too early). I’m doing what I can, but the restructuring job is turning into the hardest part of editing the film.

RogueLeader said:

Horizontally stretch out every shot of Boba Fett in the OT to more closely match Temuera Morrison’s body-type.

You mean, like this?

https://youtu.be/6XDNBCTa8zE

Re-edit Kylo Ren’s first scene with Palpatine by digitally adding in Mariachi band instruments for both the Emperor and his followers. Then, have Palpatine say, “Au contraire, Mon Capitan! Heeee’s baaaack!” from the Star Trek: The Next Generation episode, “Deja Q.”

For the less nerdy among you, here’s what I’m referring to:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke_AkJC92IA

Changes updated!

Just changed the arrangement of Kylo Ren’s return to

Exegol at the end of the film again. Mainly because I wanted to remove ol’ Palpy’s line, “The Jedi are dead!” after removing all of his other lines during Rey’s Sith ritual.

I may have to update the changes list, because I think all of Kylo Ren’s scenes have been moved to just a little later in the sequence.

I also managed to make a “happy accident” while re-arranging, as replacing Palpatine’s

“The Jedi are dead!” with the shot of Kylo getting up while facing the Knights really adds an emotional “oomph” to the moment when Rey senses Kylo is nearby.

Mrebo said:

This was a fun watch. I liked the crawl. Some things that I would have thought would feel too abrupt if cut actually worked well on screen. The jump to the Gungan City played decently as an added humorous moment. Maybe a musical element would emphasize that. Removing visuals of the podrace announcers works great. By removing a lot of the preamble to the race, the scene with Shmi telling Anakin to be safe was able to project more heart. Removing the Padme decoy ploy was a more surprising cut but narratively works. All in all it flowed well and it was coherent.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

Mrebo said:

Here is my rough draft of meeting Anakin. Would love any comments.

https://streamable.com/q62z0b

I think it’s an interesting choice, and it does a good job of introducing Anakin in a more unique way than the theatrical version.

Mrebo said:

Thank you for the supportive comments 😃

I’ve taken a quick run at Meeting Anakin/Watto’s Shop. It needs polishing and maybe more trimming but I think works telling the story. Is a 4:20 (no pun intended) clip too long to share?

I’m curious about your work Eyepainter.

I’d be happy to send a PM if you’d like. Just say please.

I’m not sure how long is too long, but I did post a link to a 6-minute YouTube video I created detailing changes I made for my Terminator 2 fanedit. I haven’t gotten in trouble for it, so I think a 4:20 clip is probably okay. That is, unless the clip in question is offensive or obscene, but I doubt a clip of Episode I is gonna do that. I would say Jar Jar is obscene, but I think my definition is different from the moderators.

Have a J. Jonah Jameson soundalike narrate and rant endlessly about how Luke Skywalker is the greatest menace in the galaxy through all three movies in the original trilogy.

Removed a few more bits. I went through the sound editing and silenced out Han’s line: “Girl knows her stuff.” during the Starkiller base climax. Another tiny detail which lessens Rey’s “Mary Sue” problem just a teensy bit more.

I also took out some more shots of the

Starkiller base X-wing battle, and I think my approach now will be to place nearly all of the focus on the ground level (a.k.a. Rey, Finn, Han, and Chewie), and make the X-wing battle as close to insignificant as possible. I’ll still have Poe’s ship blow the planet up (sans Poe, however). It’s just that most of the X-wing battle will be removed, only showing up when absolutely necessary.

I’m not sure how many of your ideas for this edit are possible, but I will say that I am intrigued, and I like what I’m reading here. I wish you the best of luck, and I’d be happy to see it when it’s released!

Decided to cut Rey’s line, “I thought he was a myth.” As it downplays the significance of Luke Skywalker and the rebellion from the OT, and not in a good way. It also doesn’t work so well with my revised opening crawl, which places a lot of emphasis on Luke, Leia, and the First Order rising in the aftermath of the Empire’s defeat. All stuff that would make the rebellion well known across the galaxy.

At this rate, we’ll need to give pie its own villain. How about cake?

720p uploaded. PM me for the links!

Since I like to study and research 35mm colors for the sake of my own color grading, I too would love to get a PM for this if at all possible.

720p tested and working. Uploading the 720p right now.