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- #1525488
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- Revenge of the Sith: Refocused - a Clone Wars: Refocused Companion Edit (v3.03 Available now)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1525488/action/topic#1525488
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Really looking forward to v3 here!
Really looking forward to v3 here!
Thank you both! It’s kind of wild that this started as a little idea that I just ran with.
Rogue, I’m not suggesting people watch TOTJ then TCW:R, and it’s not something I’ll roll into the plan for this show - it’s more just something I discovered that offers a fun perspective.
But yes, it might spawn some good AOTC thoughts. Since I’ve got an episodic hat on lately, I can see the merits in splitting the Anakin and Obi-Wan plots out entirely, for example, and not having Anakin at Geonosis.
Vranir, I agree. I think it might suit a movie more than episodes, but maybe this ordering could work:
In other news, now that I’m all done, I started my rewatch from scratch. But since I was in a Tales of the Jedi mood, I watched all of Dooku’s TOTJ episodes first, and then my two prologues, then into TCW:R proper.
And I’ve gotta tell you, that ordering - chronological (minus Ahsoka’s intro), but skipping the two first prequel movies, really works. Benefits:
The only things really missing from watching it this way are seeing the Obi-Wan/Maul plot start (you could maybe watch TPM as a flashback before the nightsisters arc?) and more detail on the clones/Jango/Boba (you could maybe watch AOTC between seasons one and two, after we see Kamino but before we see Boba seeking revenge on Mace).
Anyway, it makes for interesting viewing!
It’s a tricky one. You’re right that the episode isn’t super interesting, though it’s harmless enough. I think it’s in an odd place where you’d watch it if you cared about Ahsoka specifically, but it’s not vital to the Clone Wars.
Since it’s optional I worry that pairing it with other things might drag them down, especially since it’s so slow paced. Ahsoka’s Fall is such a perfect arc that I wouldn’t want to distract from it, whereas pairing it with Resolve (you’d call the episode ‘Birth and Rebirth’) is a genuinely decent idea. They’d benefit from having the same aesthetic, though the relevance (and jeopardy) might be lost at that placement in the chronology.
I think there’re two other options: Firstly, as a (long) opening flashback in the Christophsis episode, which wouldn’t be much different from just watching those episodes back to back; and secondly, dumped in to my ‘Tales from the Clone Wars’ anthology which takes content from a bunch of sources and just sticks them together, to bridge my seasons two and three. (A reminder: I plan to include the other Ahsoka episode from TOTJ, the one where she’s repeatedly trained against clones, in that episode too, kind of as a bridging story. She passes out a lot, which would help with the transitions, and it’d also help explain why the art style is all over the place.)
But yes, not sure. Open to further input here!
This is a little extra, just to close out the Maul/Obi-Wan plotline that’s been such a key feature of this series and the prequel era. It’s intended for people who DON’T intend to watch the rest of the Star Wars Rebels animated show. To that end, I’ve removed all Rebels context, allowing the plot to focus on Maul and Obi-Wan, with Ezra just being a context-free tool of Maul - though he still has character. As to how he’s a force-sensitive with holocrons and knowledge of Maul and Obi-Wan, well, the viewer would have to watch more of Rebels for that.
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This is one of two episodes from Tales of the Jedi which are particularly relevant to the story of the Clone Wars, in this case Ahsoka’s perspective on the aftermath of the war and the Republic’s transition into the Empire, and the rise of the Inquisition (their first canon appearance in video media!)
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Note the ‘B’ in the episode number.
This is one of two episodes from Tales of the Jedi which are particularly relevant to the story of the Clone Wars, in this case the introduction of Ahsoka and her discovery by the Jedi.
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Goddamn guys, that’s so delightful to hear. Thank you all so much - this means a huge amount to me. It’s absolutely been worth it. What a pleasure.
Since you’ve all been so lovely, how about-
Nothing too special here, I’ve just taken two Ahsoka episodes from Tales of the Jedi and turned them into content here - one that precedes this show and one that follows it. And while I was at it, they established some new standards I also applied to my existing Maul and Obi-Wan coda, which used content from Rebels.
Now, TCW:R really contains the full Clone Wars Ahsoka story (other than Rebels content) and the full Maul/Obi-Wan relationship.
Just had a readthrough of your proposed changes, and they’re really excellent. Had a couple of ideas:
Probably in this order:
And those last few episodes are now all uploaded. So-
😍 Damn man, that’s a lovely thing to hear! I really hope your family enjoy it!
Let’s go! Also, you’ve convinced me on Ambush. The Yoda/clone conversation scene kinda made me forget about the rest of the episode’s poor quality lol.
It’s always been my intention to include every last nugget of good stuff in the show somehow - to be honest I’m suprised it took me this long to realise I had a place for that scene.
Welp, there we go. At time of writing, the above episodes aren’t quite all available yet - some are still rendering so it’ll take me a day or so to get them uploaded. But the cuts are done and I wanted to braindump it all before turning in. Once they’re all available that’s the whole show as originally envisioned, brought up to the polished release standard, that I’d be proud to share with anyone, and we can commence the back-pattery. I wasn’t expecting this free burst of available time today, so I’m as suprised as you are.
A decent enough conclusion to the Onderon arc, with development for Lux, Saw, Ahsoka, and the Onderon rebellion.
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Not the strongest episodes, but they set up some seeds of rebellion, introduce Saw Gererra, and Ahsoka learns an important lesson about letting go (via Lux).
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A very popular episode, with gorgeous graphics and a good meaty shades-of-grey plot.
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This is a great episode and in many ways the turning point for Ahsoka. All of her teaching has brought her to this point, and what she discovers about herself in this episode will shape her character moving forwards.
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Oh boy, it’s heating up now! Finally the Mandalore and Maul plots collide. Great episode.
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This is the second two episodes of the Kadavo slavery arc, which fits into a gap I had in season three. It’s basically a good two-parter that’s not top tier but is a perfectly good all-rounder, with our core four characters all getting good development, bonus Plo Koon, a good enough slavery plot, good use of Dooku, and decent action.
I ignore the first episode of the original arc entirely- too much time wasted fighting droids, defusing bombs, and fighting creatures, and Obi-Wan’s near-subjugation isn’t as good as the real emotional battering he takes in the third episode, so isn’t necessary. As much as that episode’s fine, it’s not a popular one, so I don’t think it’ll even be worth the inclusion as a bonus episode. (Correct me if you disagree!)
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Another fun episode with a focus on Ahsoka-Lux and Mandalorians.
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A great episode - love a bit of Obi-Wan vs Maul - but one I’ve barely touched.
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One of my favourite arcs, a pure fun romp. Villainy, the underworld, secrets, assassination - it’s got it all.
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This is a radical edit of the Heroes on Both Sides / clone loan arc, and one of my personal favourites that I’m particularly proud of.
You can read more about the process behing this one here (scroll down a bit) and then here if you’re interested in the process behind a really complex radical restructure like this.
The original set of episodes in this arc were really messy. First there was a one-off politics episode (which was bad), then two prequels to it which I think attempted to cover similar ground but do it better. The problem is that that new chronological order undid Padmé’s successes in the prequel episodes. And the fact that they were all adhering to a 22-minute open-and-close runtime meant that there was a lot of additional politics, weird tangents, and a lot of different antagonists (many of whom are irrelevant).
However, the core of this arc is really good, and I like to think I’ve let it shine. Padmé’s character is fantastic here and she earns a great win, one that’s bittersweet since while it’s good for the people, it makes the war harder. (I’ve continued to emphasise this over this season.)
It also introduces Lux and his relationship with Ahsoka, a story which in my edit plays out (and concludes) throughout season three. Ahsoka gets some good lessons and growth in this episode.
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Geonosis is a great arc, with a lot of good action but a real focus on our core trio, and especially Anakin/Ahsoka. A worthy finale. This part, part three, follows the action-heavy previous episode probably the most true horror episode of the show. And it’s genuinely tense, and with that good character-building trauma for our main character Ahsoka.
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Good fun. Onwards to season three!