Nope, but I maintain active links to Smudger’s movies on his behalf! ☺️

Thanks very much for the feedback. I agree with a lot of what you say.

The 501st is definitely the first proper good arc chronologically, or if not chronologically, as something that deserves to be a very early story in the war. Smudger recognised this, making it his first movie, and it’s why I’ve highlighted those first five episodes as a little ‘intro arc’, and would make it part of my own first movie too. The issue is that this show really needs to be recognised as The Ahsoka Show, not the ‘prequel characters anthology’ it began as. And while unarguably rough, Malevolence and Gunray arcs set up important character traits for Ahsoka - her determination, empathy, overeagerness, and brashness. We need to know where she comes from, so we can appreciate her growth. I’ve tried to strike a middle ground by highlighting those specific episodes as weaker than the rest of the show - hopefully to encourage the viewer to stick with the show even if they don’t quite enjoy those episodes. I’m interested in how you all feel that lands in line with that goal, or even whether it is the right goal.

As for the 501st, some good notes here. Echo’s name is a clumsy addition, as is Hevy’s ‘brothers’, so I might see about changing that. You’re right that I could smooth the intro dialogue too. I might also expand out the first third of the movie a little and give the squad a bit more success (especially since success [and medals] allows me to give 99 a bit more value) - though I still feel like it’s a more compelling three-act structure if it’s their failiure that sends them to the Rishi moon.

You might be the only person who doesn’t like 99 though! But I have to keep him either way I think, since he’s the inspiration for Clone Force 99 of the Bad Batch.

As for the opening line of each season, I don’t know. I think it’s inoffensive enough, at least. But I did kinda like the idea of giving each season a theme which also clearly outlines what’s the state of the galaxy/war right now. I quite like it as a replacement for the worthless fortune cookies.

Speaking of the movie, I have thought about how I’d structure a purely hypothetical movie 1 a little more. Since this is the first movie to follow Attack of the Clones, it should be clone-focused. That means the 501st, and an extended version of the Christophsis content which includes Hidden Enemy (and its traitor clone). Malevolence (and chasing Grievous) lead nicely into the 501st, and the Gunray episode continues the Ventress story, leading into it too. So it’d be a bit like this:

• Establish that Dooku’s agents are doing what they can to stop clone production dead in its tracks and undermine the Republic’s ability to field an army. Also establish
• Start on Christophsis, with the clone ambush, and parallel plots of Rex/Cody investigating the traitor as Anakin/Obi-Wan hunt Ventress. She escapes.
• Cut to Grievous in the Malevolence destroying Plo Koon’s fleet, and targeting the next medical station. Emergency in the sector.
• Return to Christophsis, with my trimmed version of the content from the movie. Before things get too heavy, Dooku tells Ventress that Gunray has been captured. Luminara’s specifically on the support ship dropping off Ahsoka. Ahsoka meets Anakin, and they liberate Christophsis, then head to space.
• Cut to Kamino, where Domino Squad are struggling in their training.
• Cut to the Malevolence storyline, where Obi-Wan’s coordinating medical station help whilst Anakin and Ahsoka hunt for Plo Koon and a clue about the Malevolence’s whereabouts. Probably revert to nearer the original ordering of the Malevolence storyline, where first it’s Plo Koon focused, and then the hunt for the Malevolence as it’s destroying medical stations can occur over a longer time period. Conclude the Domino Squad on Kamino storyline around here (or get them to Rishi if it feels like enough time’s passed), then destroy the Malevolence. Establish Luminara as present at the final battle. Grievous escapes.
• Cut to the Rishi moon, where Domino Squad are ousted. Hints of Anakin and Obi-Wan hunting Grievous, as we intercut with Ahsoka, with Luminara, fending off Ventress. The 501st rescue Domino Squad. I may see what I can do to have Ahsoka’s interrogation of Gunray yield the clue which she gives to Anakin which sends Rex/Cody to Rishi. (Edit: I just tested this and it’s easy peasy!) Anakin congratulates Ahsoka.
• Conclude with Domino Squad, the 501st, Anakin and Obi-Wan defending Kamino against Grievous and Ventress.

One thing I really want to do with my purely hypothetical movies is make sure the characters are well-balanced in each of them, moving smoothly between storylines. So it’s less about big, focused episode arcs, and more about the characters always having something relevant to do.

Tee hee. Anyway, Nev, I’ll take the workprint please!

2001th!

Rogue, I like that reordering. I think the show put Nevarro first since those early scenes with Greef helped explain to the audience why Grogu’s back with Mando if they didn’t watch Boba Fett. Let’s see where episode two goes next.

I also thought the initial scenes were a flashback - you could maybe pretend that the kid in the water is Din, but I think you’d have to cut before the crocodile fight because that only ends because of up-to-date Mando. Though maybe there’s a tighter cut where the Mando grenades are what cause the killing blow to the beast.

Then again, thinking back to the early episodes and Acbagel’s movies, I don’t know that the first episode needs a Din flashback, since it follows a fun narrative where his mysterious character is slowly revealed through the story.

Thank you all so much guys, this means so much to me! ❤️

I’d love to become a fanedit.org editor and get it listed on IFDB, but it’s tricky to become an approved editor there (especially with such a large project for review… and the fact that right now they’re focused on a much older Hobbit project which hasn’t been my focus for a long time).

But anyway, I really really appreciate all the support.

Now that I’m done with the ‘big picture’ though, I can focus more on the smaller details. If there’re any features of the edit - however minor - that you guys think I should re-think, please let me know. I’m more than happy to revisit decisions, tweak scenes and shots, etc. Convince me to fix stuff!

You’re all awesome.

Agreed. Definitely the most forgotten animated show. I only watched a few episodes.

Octorox said:

I know you’ve probably gotten this question plenty of times before, but have you given any thought to a Rebels: Refocused? Rebels is probably going to become much more relevant with the Ahsoka series on the horizon. Unfortunately, I think Rebels is harder to reshape because the progression is significantly more linear, but I’ve had friends that have complained that the first season in particular is hard to get through.

I have (of course!) BUT:

1. I don’t think it needs quite as much fixing - generally a viewer could suffice with a ‘best episodes’ list or a ‘Ahsoka focus’ list, for example.
2. Goob on these forums is doing a similar Rebels edit for further refinement on top of the above.
3. I’d like to keep my focus on TCW, the prequel era, and supporting Acbagel’s Mandalorian and Bad Batch edits, at least for now. I think that’s plenty!

Still, I may one day take a deeper look at Rebels, and even Resistance, perhaps!

REQUEST FOR SUPPORT

Hi folks, now that this is complete and polished, I’m looking to launch it over on the fanedit.org forums. Threads from unapproved editors can get buried quite easily over there (and I’m still not approved) so I’d be extremely grateful if you could give the thread over there a bit of love - perhaps via a brief review, or a comment on the approach taken over here? Thanks in advance to anyone who helps give this edit a little buzz beyond our borders!

Other post-processing might be an option, just for further refinement. Audacity, for example.

EddieDean said:

honestabe said:

EddieDean said:

RELEASED - S00E00b - Prologue: Life and Death (Ahsoka) (v2.0)

Just FYI: This prologue episode does not start until the 3:42 mark. You get a black silent screen until then.

Thanks, I’m on it!

Fixed!

honestabe said:

EddieDean said:

RELEASED - S00E00b - Prologue: Life and Death (Ahsoka) (v2.0)

Just FYI: This prologue episode does not start until the 3:42 mark. You get a black silent screen until then.

Thanks, I’m on it!

Really looking forward to v3 here!

Thank you both! It’s kind of wild that this started as a little idea that I just ran with.

Rogue, I’m not suggesting people watch TOTJ then TCW:R, and it’s not something I’ll roll into the plan for this show - it’s more just something I discovered that offers a fun perspective.

But yes, it might spawn some good AOTC thoughts. Since I’ve got an episodic hat on lately, I can see the merits in splitting the Anakin and Obi-Wan plots out entirely, for example, and not having Anakin at Geonosis.

Vranir, I agree. I think it might suit a movie more than episodes, but maybe this ordering could work:

• Establish in the crawl that Christophsis is somehow important to the Kamino situatoin, and that all of this is happening out in the same region of the Outer Rim, near Kamino, where Grievous is targeting clone facilities and Ventress is assassinating key Republic assets. Luminara is running priority supplies to and from the region, but has just been diverted to pick up the freshly captured Nute Gunray, who’s stolen secrets which could help Grievous assault Kamino. Since Anakin’s knighted, Obi-Wan’s requested a new padawan.
• Anakin and Obi-Wan break down to the Christophsis surface. They have some sort of important business there. [From the Christophsis arc]
• Nearby(ish), Grievous wipes out Plo Koon’s ship and starts pod killing survivors. We establish a threat to clones. [From Malevolence]
• Anakin and Obi-Wan set up their base on Christophsis, but get ambushed, then go to hunt down Ventress who’s behind it. Separatist forces on Christophsis are revealed to have already landed on the planet.
• Sidious tells Dooku that Nute Gunray has secrets and must be retrieved. Dooku assigns Ventress to recover him, drawing her away from Christophsis.
• The Malevolence situation is recognised as an emergency by the Republic, and this gets relayed round the fleet (just after the Christophsis forces get their Comms jammed). Luminara becomes the relay to Christophsis.
• Luminara, who is escorting Ashoka somewhere (maybe she’s just Luminara’s padawan, we think?), delivers Gunray to her larger ship. Ventress arrives, causes chaos, and rescues Gunray, but we see Ashoka in action. Luminara returns to her original mission. [Assassin]
• We return to Christophsis. Anakin and Obi-Wan are preparing for a ground battle, and receive delivery of supplies from Luminara’s ship. Ashoka is delivered too (she’s to be Anakin’s padawan?!) and she relays that there’s an emergency. But with the unexpected force on Christophsis, they can’t respond yet.
• The rest of Christophsis plays out, the Separatist forces are defeated, and the key trio head to space to deal with the Malevolence emergency.
• We return to Plo’s team in space. They’re struggling and being hunted. Plo tells his troops “you’re individuals and important to me”.
• Cut to Domino Squad training. [Domino squad arc] We see this group as individuals. They fail training.
• The main trio rescue Plo, and race to take out the Malevolence. It’s destroyed, but Grievous flees. We imply this was a key distraction.
• Cut to Domino Squad on the Rishi moon. They’re watching for a possible attack on Kamino. Droids take over the base.
• Anakin takes Ashoka back to Coruscant. Stuff is heating up in the region, it’s not safe for a brand new padawan. She’s done now for this movie, but she’s had a lot of action.
• Rex and Cody arrive on the Rishi moon, as Anakin and Obi-Wan hunt for Grievous. Both plots are revealed to be linked- Grievous is using the silencing of this base as a way to sneak attack on Kamino. Everyone rushes to Kamino (including Ventress) and they all fight there and save the planet. End.

In other news, now that I’m all done, I started my rewatch from scratch. But since I was in a Tales of the Jedi mood, I watched all of Dooku’s TOTJ episodes first, and then my two prologues, then into TCW:R proper.

And I’ve gotta tell you, that ordering - chronological (minus Ahsoka’s intro), but skipping the two first prequel movies, really works. Benefits:

• The Dooku episodes do such a great job of introducing the viewer to the whole Star Wars setting. They’re powerful, beautiful, character-driven, and explain the state of the galaxy really clearly. Even without seeing the movies, you understand why many planets would want to leave the Republic, and why Dooku would be a fitting figurehead.
• The whole, this way, is way more focused on high quality character development, and the non-movie content does a really good job of filling in the gaps as you go. They feel like stories with worldbuilding, rather than the prequel movies’ worldbuilding with stories in them.
• Anakin’s introduction is carried by the Tartakovsky series, and it totally works. We get this nice throughline of Dooku > Qui-Gon > Obi-Wan > Anakin. Dooku 's become our focal villain (after his great and understandable development) and then hiring his few right hand characters, then Anakin is introduced as a brash but great Jedi whom the Jedi Council regard as the ‘chosen one’ and the Sith have a particular interest in. He’s a great pilot with a secret wife, and his character is clear - and in his introductory episode we see via his clash with Ventress how he’s tempted by the dark.
• We then see Ahsoka’s introduction, and she’s cemented as his apprentice as their character and relationship comes more into focus over the first couple of TCW:R episodes.
• Seeing Mandalore early also does a great job of introducing third parties - and its neutrality also brings the corruption of the Republic into sharper focus.
• Speaking of which, the Republic’s corruption is far clearer here - yes, it’s probably a force for good, and stability, but we understand much better why people might object to it, and why it’s exploitable by Sidious. We also see Mace Windu as much more representative of the Jedi as the [corrupt] Republic’s tool, rather than a wiser questioning presence like Dooku, Qui-Gon, or Yoda.

The only things really missing from watching it this way are seeing the Obi-Wan/Maul plot start (you could maybe watch TPM as a flashback before the nightsisters arc?) and more detail on the clones/Jango/Boba (you could maybe watch AOTC between seasons one and two, after we see Kamino but before we see Boba seeking revenge on Mace).

Anyway, it makes for interesting viewing!

It’s a tricky one. You’re right that the episode isn’t super interesting, though it’s harmless enough. I think it’s in an odd place where you’d watch it if you cared about Ahsoka specifically, but it’s not vital to the Clone Wars.

Since it’s optional I worry that pairing it with other things might drag them down, especially since it’s so slow paced. Ahsoka’s Fall is such a perfect arc that I wouldn’t want to distract from it, whereas pairing it with Resolve (you’d call the episode ‘Birth and Rebirth’) is a genuinely decent idea. They’d benefit from having the same aesthetic, though the relevance (and jeopardy) might be lost at that placement in the chronology.

I think there’re two other options: Firstly, as a (long) opening flashback in the Christophsis episode, which wouldn’t be much different from just watching those episodes back to back; and secondly, dumped in to my ‘Tales from the Clone Wars’ anthology which takes content from a bunch of sources and just sticks them together, to bridge my seasons two and three. (A reminder: I plan to include the other Ahsoka episode from TOTJ, the one where she’s repeatedly trained against clones, in that episode too, kind of as a bridging story. She passes out a lot, which would help with the transitions, and it’d also help explain why the art style is all over the place.)

But yes, not sure. Open to further input here!

(RE)RELEASED - S05E06 - CODA: OLD WOUNDS (MAUL AND OBI-WAN) (v2.0)

• RELEASE VERSION, at v2.0 standard.
• Note the new numbering.
• Our second coda for the show, showing the conclusion of the Maul/Obi-Wan plotline.
• This one should be watched AFTER everything else. And probably after the Kenobi series if you were watching chronologically (but skipping Rebels).
• Comprising the Star Wars Rebels episode Twin Suns
• Running 14 minutes.
• DOWNLOAD LINK is in the tracker spreadsheet, PM me for access.
• Note: It’s recommended that you download this before watching, rather than streaming it directly from Google Drive.

This is a little extra, just to close out the Maul/Obi-Wan plotline that’s been such a key feature of this series and the prequel era. It’s intended for people who DON’T intend to watch the rest of the Star Wars Rebels animated show. To that end, I’ve removed all Rebels context, allowing the plot to focus on Maul and Obi-Wan, with Ezra just being a context-free tool of Maul - though he still has character. As to how he’s a force-sensitive with holocrons and knowledge of Maul and Obi-Wan, well, the viewer would have to watch more of Rebels for that.

Noteworthy changes:

• (v2.1 change: Since I now have an Ahsoka coda which includes a new standard for codas and prologues, I’ve updated this slightly to match the same standard. No other significant changes.)
• No Clone Wars Refocused trappings for this episode - it’s a bitesize standalone thing.
• We use the original episode’s opening, until Maul plans to use the holocrons to somehow draw Obi-Wan out.
• I replace the original Rebels logo with this coda’s episode title card.
• We then skip to Ezra already in orbit of Tattooine, looking at the holocrons in his hand. That’s all the context you get (to begin with) to link him to Maul.
• I trimmed some of Ezra in orbit to remove humour and Rebels-only context. Ezra then lands.
• I changed Ezra saying “The sith holocron!” to “A sith holocron!” just to smooth out the lack of viewer context.
• I trimmed some of the more goofy elements of Ezra being attacked by the Tuskens.
• I trimmed some of the scene of Ezra wondering what to do, to remove Rebels-only context but show that he’s aware of Maul and here to hopefully help Obi-Wan. Chopper doesn’t argue when he wants to go into the desert.
• We transition to Ezra in the sandstorm, with some more trims to keep the focus on this plot.
• I trimmed some of the scene of Ezra in the baking sun, so he doesn’t overdo his relationship with Chopper (it’s not our focus), and instead passes out a bit more quickly. I also cut the more overt Maul vision from this, as adding additional unnecessary complications.
• I smoothed the transition from baking sun to Obi-Wan finding him, and from that scene into Obi-Wan by the fireplace.
• I trimmed some of the Rebels-oriented dialogue, mainly to not have Obi-Wan here less anchored to a specific point in the timeline, and to avoid possible conflicts with Rogue One and the Kenobi series. Now they’re mainly just discussing Maul being here for Obi-Wan, and Ezra having been manipulated.
• The Maul-Obi-Wan scene plays out in full.
• After that scene concludes, we skip over Ezra’s conclusion (he’s left the scene and our story) and wipe straight into Obi-Wan monitoring the Lars homestead.
• We use the original episode’s end credits and music, including the Star Wars Rebels logo. I figured that keeping that was fine - this is a Clone Wars Coda but it’s still Rebels content, so there’s no harm in being honest about that.

RELEASED - S05E05 - Coda: Resolve (Ahsoka) (v2.0)

• RELEASE VERSION, at v2.0 standard.
• Our first coda episode. (S05e04 is the last real episode.)
• Comprising the original episode Resolve, also erroneously (but not inaccurately) reported under the name Coda from the Tales of the Jedi series.
• Running 14 minutes.
• DOWNLOAD LINK is in the tracker spreadsheet, PM me for access.
• Note: It’s recommended that you download this before watching, rather than streaming it directly from Google Drive.

This is one of two episodes from Tales of the Jedi which are particularly relevant to the story of the Clone Wars, in this case Ahsoka’s perspective on the aftermath of the war and the Republic’s transition into the Empire, and the rise of the Inquisition (their first canon appearance in video media!)

Notes:

• This episode is entirely untouched from its original release, except from a light re-branding from being a TOTJ episode into being a TCW:R coda. Since I’ve touched nothing, I’ve kept its original title.
• I’ve included it here though since TCW:R is really the story of Ahsoka in many ways, so it belongs to your understanding of the show and her character. It also bridges the gap between her TCW appearances and her Rebels appearances. Plus we’ve got Dave Filoni’s Ahsoka show coming up, so let’s get as much of her story in as possible.
• Chronologically, the opening scene happens very shortly after her prior appearance (in TCW:R), but the body of the episode is an unknown time later. There’s been no official word on this, and it’s somewhere between 18 and 5 BBY. All you really need to know is that it’s after TCW and before Rebels. But you might as well watch it here.
• I was tempted to put the Vader coda from the final TCW® episode here, in between the two timeframes, but I think ultimately that’s got more punch where it sits in that episode, even if not strictly chronological. You lose nothing this way, at least.
• As a side note, Ahsoka’s appearance in Rebels was originally more of a suprise (it was the first time we saw her IRL since the Ahsoka’s Fall arc), but with season seven of TCW filling in the gaps about her leaving Anakin, and the release of the Ahsoka show, that cat’s pretty thoroughly out of the bag, so I don’t mind keeping that spoiler spoiled.

RELEASED - S00E00b - Prologue: Life and Death (Ahsoka) (v2.0)

Note the ‘B’ in the episode number.

• RELEASE VERSION, at v2.0 standard.
• Our second semi-optional prologue episode.
• Comprising the original episode Life and Death from the Tales of the Jedi series.
• Running 20 minutes.
• DOWNLOAD LINK is in the tracker spreadsheet, PM me for access.
• Note: It’s recommended that you download this before watching, rather than streaming it directly from Google Drive.

This is one of two episodes from Tales of the Jedi which are particularly relevant to the story of the Clone Wars, in this case the introduction of Ahsoka and her discovery by the Jedi.

Notes:

• Uniquely for my show, I think this is important for a Filoniverse watch but optional for a ‘Recommended Clone Wars only’ watch. It’s valuable Ahsoka, hence Filoniverse, but I don’t think it’s particularly valuable if you’re watching the Clone Wars. We did just fine for seven years without this episode, to be honest! Still, it’s good, so why not.
• This episode is entirely untouched from its original release, except from a light re-branding from being a TOTJ episode into being a TCW:R prologue. Since I’ve touched nothing, I’ve kept its original title.
• I’ve included it here though since TCW:R is really the story of Ahsoka in many ways, so it belongs to your understanding of the show and her character. Plus we’ve got Dave Filoni’s Ahsoka show coming up, so let’s start her story right here.
• Chronologically, this is currently the first story told in Star Wars video media, BUT I believe it should be watched right before Ahsoka’s introduction in the show and relevance to the plot, rather than as the first thing you watch (hence numbering this as s01e00b), so it immediately precedes her joining Anakin. There’s no point watching this then going off to watch two movies (and three other TOTJ episodes) and the Tartakovsky series , since she doesn’t appear in any of that. Treat this as a flashback. Or don’t, I’m not your boss.
• Speaking of which, I might eventually make it an actual official flashback as part of my Christophsis episode one day (which is when Ahsoka gets properly introduced to the Clone Wars plot).

Goddamn guys, that’s so delightful to hear. Thank you all so much - this means a huge amount to me. It’s absolutely been worth it. What a pleasure.

Since you’ve all been so lovely, how about-

Oh go on then, you can have a couple of codas and a prologue!

Nothing too special here, I’ve just taken two Ahsoka episodes from Tales of the Jedi and turned them into content here - one that precedes this show and one that follows it. And while I was at it, they established some new standards I also applied to my existing Maul and Obi-Wan coda, which used content from Rebels.

Now, TCW:R really contains the full Clone Wars Ahsoka story (other than Rebels content) and the full Maul/Obi-Wan relationship.

Just had a readthrough of your proposed changes, and they’re really excellent. Had a couple of ideas:

• You mentioned not having Finn, Poe, and Chewie getting captured a second time on Kylo’s ship, and minimising Hux. If you’re going to do this, you could have Pryde kill Hux for being a spy soon after the audience learns about the leaked info (very early in the movie), signifying the old First Order getting largely replaced by the new Final Order fleet.
• Rey’s Kylo bedroom dagger vision could include a shot from around ROTJ timeframe showing the wayfinder sitting on the throne next to Palpatine, so long as the shot doesn’t look too borrowed from ROTJ.

So what’s next?

Probably in this order:

• I’m going to gather your feedback, check for older feedback in this thread, and run through the whole show again myself.
• Teeny tiny edits to a handful of episodes based on your feedback, including my Massacre and Attachments episodes.
• Addition of TOTJ’s Ahsoka Coda episode as a bonus coda.
• Addition of TOTJ’s Life and Death episode as an Ahsoka intro (either standalone or incorporated into episode one).
• Revision to my Tales from the Clone Wars bonus anthology episode to polish it up a bit and include a bit more from TOTJ’s Practice makes Perfect episode.
• Extended versions of Children of Night, Assault on Geonosis, The Death of Obi-Wan, Slaves of Zygerria, and Dissent on Umbara.
• Bonus episodes featuring characters from wider canon.
• Remaining bonus episodes (anything not absolutely horrendous).
• Season zero (featuring the remaining TOTJ content and the prequel movies).
• Thinking about moviefying the whole (as per the top post on the previous page).

And those last few episodes are now all uploaded. So-

That’s the whole end-to-end show, complete, fully polished, and available now.

😍 Damn man, that’s a lovely thing to hear! I really hope your family enjoy it!

onewingedangel3 said:

Let’s go! Also, you’ve convinced me on Ambush. The Yoda/clone conversation scene kinda made me forget about the rest of the episode’s poor quality lol.

It’s always been my intention to include every last nugget of good stuff in the show somehow - to be honest I’m suprised it took me this long to realise I had a place for that scene.