I guess the major question Mando will impose on this edit is “Where in Mando S3 do we get content that feels it could conclude a film?” Because you backtrack from there to the content that needs to be included, and that’ll inform any final decisions regarding the structure of the end of the Mando S2/BoBF content.

Just had a look at the changelog and this second one is shaping up excellently too. I love this structure- Din fails to find a home with the wetlanders as Boba loses his with the Tuskens, then they crossover. Din’s story features Cara and the threat of constant pursuit throughout and becomes a true sequel to the previous one with the return of Greef and Nevarro.

I’m so glad you had fun reading the whole journey! I need to read back from about page 50 myself to pick up some old notes for future polish and my other post-release plans!

The Dooku episodes of TOTJ aren’t vital to TCW, as you say, but I definitely think they add value to the prequel movies and work well as a chronological introduction to the franchise and the prequels.

I really hope you enjoy the show!

Drakul said:

EddieDean said:

As the next episode renders, I’ve been thinking a little about structuring the finale of the show.

Interested in thoughts here.

Again I don’t know if you’re still looking for feedback but personally I keep the movies separate. I don’t like mixing too much media together because it kind of takes me out of it.
I try to keep the movies as pure as possible just trimming some of the annoying aspects which is why I like Hal900’s edits for the PT (I think I have the v3 or v4 but I haven’t been on these forums in years so I plan to check that after I’m done with your thread). For the OT I watch harmy’s de-specialized edits.

So my plan it to watch your show. Stop where it makes most sense. Watch RotS. and carry on.
I’m also interested in the Son of Dathomir content since I’ve never read that comic.

PS:On page 72, making my way and I grabbed your season 1.

Agreed, and definitely this version of TCW is designed to split around the viewer’s preferred movies. One day I may look into a merge but I’m not in a rush to do that because it’s not a great value add.

And yes! Son of Dathomir is great! It’s a good comic but the fans have done a really good job bringing it to life with voiced dialogue, SFX, music, and animation.

Ha! Well I don’t think it can quite compete with all the great proper edits that come out over there, but I’m very glad to have it listed.

smudger9 said:

EddieDean said:

I’ve just got the news that the edit is now finally IFDB approved!

Thank you all so much! ❤️

Congrats. I remember the hoops I had to jump through to get Army of the Republic approved back in the day. They have high standards!

Thanks so much Smudger! They absolutely do. Thanks so much for your original TCW movies, they really started this whole thing for me. I still maintain them for those who continue to request them! I’m proud my edit can stand alongside yours.

As part of the approval for this, I was requested to update my Hobbit edit to 5.1 surround sound too, so it can also be listed. If anyone’s interested, that’s here.

I’ve recently updated this to full 5.1 surround sound, so that it can also be listed on IFDB. It’s polished and complete.

I’ve just got the news that the edit is now finally IFDB approved!

Thank you all so much! ❤️

Oh, and I must especially emphasise here, Hal’s help over at Fanedit.org getting this over the line! I’m exceptionally grateful.

Acbagel has already seen this feedback, but he deserves it in public too!

Thoughts

• This is absolutely incredible. I can’t gush about it enough. There have been a few Mando movies hitting the key plot beats from the series, but nothing has done what this does, which is to restructure the existing content to add so much more value. Rather than covering the full plot of season one, this episode is much more of a character piece, and we really get the full picture of Din Djarin’s backstory, character, and challenges. It’s very satisfying, still action-packed, and amazing work.
• Episodes 1,2,6,3 really are the perfect introduction to Mando as a character. Episode 6, the prison break, does lots more great worldbuilding that absolutely belongs in Mando’s first appearance. In this movie, we now get such a complete picture of Mando’s backstory, Mandalorian culture, and the state of the galaxy post-OT. Perfect marriage.
• As we’d hoped, splitting the Grogu story around the prison break works so well. It’s now his final falling-out with the world of bounty hunting, and back into the Mandalorian creed and his adoptive son. Excellent.
• The use of the flashbacks was perfect, and I love how Acbagel took it further to combine Mando’s childhood rescue with the current-timeframe rescue scenes. It deepens the thematic links between Grogu and Mando’s Mandalorian culture. And I’m amazed how many nice moments you found to parallel - the shutting carrier with the bunker, and even the Mandalorian nods. Excellent work.
• The reintroduction of the Jawas worked well. There’s good Mando and Kuiil stuff in there, and a bit more nice worldbuilding. This was a good call.
• The audio work was perfect, it all flowed just great.

This was an absolutely excellent edit, executed very very well. I loved it, and I think it’s really going to impress. I have always loved this approach of trying to retain as much as possible from the show whilst just tightening it and presenting it well, and this movie is the perfect kick-off to that. It would make an excellent introduction to the show for a new viewer.

Glad you’re enjoying reading the process!

I’m never done done, so please always feel free to suggest things! This is totally a living project.

1. I did end up using ‘Snips’ in a few places.
2. That’s a nice nod, but I wanted to use ‘Force’ since it’s got a lot of implications - the military force, the darksiders on the rise, and the dark side of the force rising within Anakin. I like titles which can be read in a few ways.
3. I did end up going a little different with that text. Originally I tried to explain all three stories, but that didn’t really work. Now it’s still six sentences, but I took a more informal ‘storyteller’ tone with it.

Jar Jar Bricks said:

By far my favorite change I’ve seen so far was him putting Qui-Gon’s crystal in Kenobi’s saber chest. I can finally have my fandom explanation that Luke is using Qui-Gon’s lightsaber crystal in episode 6.

Oooooh that is a sweet change.

This sounds incredible - I cannot wait!

Looking at your edit sheet, I really like your solution to the bounty hunters’ fates in the prison heist. Great middle ground!

yoshif8tures said:

Okay so, so far out of season 2, you could make an arc out of episodes 2, 3, 7, 8, 10 and 12 so far, of which episode 12 is a must watch.

Totally agree with this. 7 could intercut with 1 & 2, and then lead into 8, which could conclude a movie if the season becomes two movies. 11 focuses on Nala Se and could fit in there too. 3 and 12 follow Crosshair’s journey, and might belong here. We’ll see where the rest of the season goes but it looks like this is a one-movie affair for now.

6, with Gungi, is OK, but a bit standalone. 5 and 13 feature Phee, which might become important later. And 9 and 10 might fill out the first of two movies, if trimmed, because they do have some good character work for Omega and Tech, plus they set up the Batch leaving Cid.

Season one could be two movies, but I’ll do the promised deeper research on it soon.

Hell yeah, great to have you back! Really interested to hear more of your plans.

I’ve been thinking a little more about a potential movie from the start of the show. NO PROMISES, as ever!

As Smudger and others have observed, it’s right that there’s a focus on Ahsoka meeting Anakin, plus the Clones, for a movie that follows AOTC. For that reason, the core should be the movie’s Christophsis content and the Domino Swuad arc. But I think we also need to focus a bit more heavily on Ahsoka’s early character development, which suggests Malevolence and Cloak of Darkness, and both of those feature Grievous and Ventress respectively, which I think fleshes out the plot nicely.

That way, you get the core three Jedi, a clone focus, and all of the main villains working together toward a single goal. I count thirteen main sequences across those episodes, ordered so the plot works and so the characters flow naturally through it:

1. (Malevolence) Plo Koon is shot down by Grievous’ massive ship (the “emergency”), possibly as a cold open.
2. (Hidden Enemy) Anakin and Obi-Wan, on Christophsis, are ambushed and track Ventress, discovering an invasion.
3. (Cloak of Darkness) Dooku pulls Ventress away from Christophsis since Gunray’s been captured.
4. (Movie) Anakin and Obi-Wan struggle against the invasion.
5. (Movie) Ahsoka is delivered to Christophsis (warning of the “emerency”), and helps Anakin win the day. Obi-Wan leaves.
6. (Malevolence) Anakin and Ahsoka rescue Plo. (I might pepper more scenes of Plo earlier than this, but the main conclusion comes here.)
7. (Domino Squad) The Domino Squad fail their training. (Intercut with the previous.)
8. (Malevolence) The Malevolence targets a medical station and is destroyed by the three Jedi. Grievous escapes. (I might actually cut this or leave it for a later conclusion. With the prior content leaving Grievous on the loose, that lines up nicely with his suprise appearance later.)
9. (Cloak of Darkness) Ahsoka returns to Luminara, and interrogates Gunray.
10. (Domino Squad) The squad are beaten by Grievous’ forces on the Rishi moon.
11. (Cloak of Darkness) Ventress comes for Gunray, Ahsoka survives, and Ventress escapes with Gunray (intercut with the above). (Add dialogue to have Ahsoka’s interrogation yield the Rishi hint for Rex.)
12. (Domino Squad) Rex comes to Rishi, and rescues Domino Squad. They learn of Grievous’ Kamino attack.
13. (Domino Squad) Everyone except Ahsoks goes to destroy or defend Kamino.

There’s a new tab in my spreadsheet you guys can look at if you want to dig into this further.

There are a few good scenes with the right people who can help bridge some of this. And potentially a few good ways to string it together. The Malevolence attacks are now more of a distraction to panic the Republic (“emergency!”) into helping enable the Rishi-Kamino strike.

The main issue is in focusing the first half of the film. You need to introduce the Malevolence threat early, and it’s useful to give Ventress a good reason to get off Christophsis, but then it feels a bit busy to also introduce all-new clones at the start in addition to all this - though you do want to give the 501st enough time to get from Kamino to Rishi.

I’d be really interested to get more brains on this.

Oh wow, that’s amazing!

This is so, so elegant. Not only does it give the audience much-needed information in a sensible in-story way, it actually smooths things out with the dreadnought line. Really impressive, a huge value add.

Hooray! That’s excellent to hear. I don’t currently plan to add subtitles, though they have been requested a lot. I don’t know how much work they’d take, which is why it’s not something I’ve picked up. Does anyone know how to create/edit subtitle tracks? I’d be starting from scratch.

Just looking at work commitments for the next short while, it looks like I won’t have the time to create an Episode 2 focus thread in the short term. If anyone wants to put something together please be my guest!

For Rebels I guess it depends on whether you’re interested in the journey of the Darksaber too- you could probably get away with finding a list online that tells you any episode featuring either Maul or Mandalore.

Yep, I’ve got a Mando-focused cut of my TCW:R edit, available from the spreadsheet.

Maybe Palpatine is the one that gives Anakin the information that his mum’s at risk, actually putting him on the path to finding that she’s been kidnapped (which leads to him slaughtering them)?

Yeah, good shout Peter Pan, especially on the lightsaber fight reordering. It’d feel a lot more punchy if we took out that moment of downtime where Obi-Wan’s just waiting behind the gates - it should be that they drop while he’s at his most emotional, prompting him to fight in a way that Maul then exploits to quickly send him down the pit.

And regarding the Padmé capture, I do have a shot available which bridges those two scenes. By zooming (aggressively) on Gunray turning toward the door (originally after it opens) and playing the door opening sound effect, we can then transition to Padmé walking in, then continue from the next part of the zoomed shot (but unzoomed this time).