He doesn't look nervous, though, does he? Not one bit. Indeed, he seems in excellent humour.
And he's made up for his betrayal of Han (which happened a few years before the events of RoTJ) with helping rescue him from Jabba. So, again, I don't accept that this is on his mind.
Bingowings said:
I prefer the slight stutter in the delivery, real people speak like that, particularly if they are nervous. It makes Lando sound like a person and not just Billy Dee reciting his lines.
Personally,I hope this is one item that doesn't get changed just for the sake of it.
DuracellEnergizer said:
lovelikewinter said:
5. No gay people at all.
Or bisexuals, or asexuals, or zoophiles, or X-philes, or chainsaw jugglers, or people who wear fedoras, or coin collectors, or stamp collectors, or tax collectors, or Christmas carollers, or conquistadors, or flying monkeys, or Heather Langenkamp, or Laura Bertram, or that girl I used to stalk in high school, or William Shatner, or Peter O'Toole, or Beavis and Butthead, or Hank Hill, or undeveloped rolls of film, or used rolls of toilet paper, or that singing frog who won't sing in front of an audience, or the goddamn Batman, or good God, Mother! Blood! Blood!, or Kaiser Wilhelm, or Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche, or the Wilhelm Scream, or the Goofy Scream, or Edvard Munch's "The Scream", or you scream, I scream, we all scream for ice cream, or ...
I think you just hate everything, darklordoftech.
Not only that, Silver Wook, but it was also quite a good movie. Kiefer Sutherland is tops in it.
I'm familiar with the "just because it sold doesn't mean it's good" theory. Familiar enough to not have espoused it in my original post. I simply said the films were popular and have a huge fanbase. People should just accept that and not be resentful of it or, even worse, feel superior to those folk (I've seen prequel fans referred to as "you people" on this forum, something to which I take particular offense).
And Lucas also gave his blessing to Family Guy. Personally, I think South Park is a dreadful show and about as funny as rabies. Nevertheless, just because something is lampooned is not proof positive that the subject is bad, moreover it's because the subject is successful.
No, the changes go back as far as 1977. It's just that in 1997 the most changes were made. And, obviously, those were the changes which were trumpeted most loudly by Lucasfilm.
It surprises me, though, that on a forum such as this, where fans will pick up on anything and everything (from colour coding to the different fonts used for the subtitles), no-one appears to have noticed the dialogue change that I mentioned. Or has it become de rigeur to just post endlessly about the changes that we don't like? Perhaps that's why the audio cock up with the music during the Death Star battle on the DVD of A New Hope drew so much stick and yet, when Matthew Woods changed it back to how it was originally, there was barely a murmour.
I blame the papers! Appeal to the lowest common denominator by selling bad news and people begin to believe that that's what they want to talk about. The endless negativity is rather wearing, though.
The past few comments do present a strong case for the older fans to simply let go - or at least accept that the prequels have their fanbase and are referenced in modern films as much as the original trilogy was in its day. Ergo, when my kids were on half term recently, two of the films they watched were Hop and Marmaduke, both of which had prominent references to the prequels in them.
Now, you can lament that and typically say "Well, that just show how standards are slipping....films aren't as good as they used to be...etc" - I'd expect nothing less on this forum - but you can't deny the success of the prequels and that these "awful" films exist, will continue to exist, and are the reason Star Wars remains so prominent today.
I was watching the blu-ray of Return Of The Jedi yesterday with the archive commentary (some great comments from Carrie Fisher, by the way) and noticed, for the first time, a change which I can't find mention of anywhere. When Han and Lando are exchanging their goodbyes in the hangar bay, Lando has always said "I'll take care of her, she-she won't get a scratch". She-she? Yes, she-she. Anyway, it's been corrected in the blu-ray. Finally, Lando simply says "she won't get a scratch".
It made me wonder what other changes have been made that aren't talked about and how the blu-rays would've benefited from some input from George Lucas and Matthew Woods concerning the new alterations and the reasons for making them.
Seems that an inordinate time is spent discussing the changes that people don't like rather than changes which aren't so bad at all, like the "I'll see you in hell" moment on the DVD of The Empire Strikes Back which is a longer edit than it was before.
Well, obviously that's where we differ; I do care about Anakin in the prequels so this is where we'll have to agree to disagree.
Tobar said:
Was reading another interview Dave did for Nerdist and then this awesomeness came up:
As an original fan, if you just see a TIE fighter scream across the screen – you haven’t seen that since probably ’96 on a screen of any kind unless you’re watching it at home and it’s never been new. I think we have that to offer. Joel Aron, my VFX lead, has done an amazing job at matching the original effects. Something I’ll talk about – I don’t know if I've told anyone this, so this might be somewhat exclusive: We had the lightsaber rendered – the effect you’ll see in this show, Joel Aron and I very consciously decided to make it like what you saw in the ’70s. And they changed it in updated editions. The blade is a lot steadier in the re-releases and in the prequels. In fact, the blades in the prequels actually are wide and then they taper to a very specific sword point. The lightsabers that we’re putting in Star Wars Rebels are very much the long thin slender blade that is just more like a fencing rapier. Much more like that.
And they oscillate. They actually quiver. Joel found the original guy that did the original effect, rotoed it and everything, because it was on a rod that spun. If you look at really old, original footage of Luke’s lightsaber when he turns it on, it kind of almost goes like that [waves hand] and flickers. That really motivates the humming sound of the lightsaber and how it fluctuates when it moves. Joel’s recreated that really well.
Something else, we put in the old kind of yellow-green flash contacts when the sabers hit in the old movies that weren't as present in the new ones. We've gone very retro with our effects package for Rebels. I think old fans will like that, new fans won’t even know the difference. But yes, it’s always a big consideration. For a lot of kids, Rebels will be their introduction [to Star Wars]. It’s exciting, and it’s a huge responsibility, because we want to set things up well for everything that’s going to come.
<a href="http://www.nerdist.com/2014/04/dave-filoni-discusses-star-wars-rebels/">Full interview here.</a>
FrankT said:
That's all very well. But what really counts is the story, not retro visuals!
DuracellEnergizer said:
At that time, I had been led to believe that the EU was fully canon, that Lucas respected the EU, and that the films would remain true to the EU and build off of its ideas while still telling its own story.
Had I known otherwise, I may not have been so disappointed. But things are the way they are, and I still don't like Order 66 or the rushed extermination of the Jedi.
DuracellEnergizer said:
^If only those clones had been played by real actors in real suits of armour.
imperialscum said:
Easterhay said:
And wasn't the point of the prequels to show that the Jedi are not superhuman?
The main point of the prequels was to show how a good person (Anakin) turned bad.
In reality it showed how Anakin was an extremely annoying unlikable jerk. See my signature for some additional info.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Easterhay said:
And for both world wars, and AIDs, and cancer, and the assassination of JFK. In short, Lucas is to blame for everything, really.
Wait, you're only realizing this now?
As opposed to fans who want the original versions of the OT released, who are of course just peeing in the wind lol
It's as clear as day that the Jedi perceive bad actions as being the path to the darkside. You really need me to supply you quotes from the films for this?
You don't know how to respond to the second point? Well, they say silence is golden. Your semi-response, though, about different Christians, is purely academic.
lovelikewinter said:
1. There was no Han Solo-type (everyman) character. Everyone was way too uptight and it showed.
2. Anakin was extremely unlikable. The Clone Wars' biggest surprise was how they made him actually a heroic guy. They played up his pilot skills and I can see why Ben called him a cunning warrior.
3. The decision to go away from 35mm to digital. Digital will never have the great feel of film.
4. Lucas at that point had surrounded himself with yes men and he had no one to tell him some ideas were crap. It was less a collaborative effort. Plus I think his brain had gone to mush as a result of spending 15 years raising kids.
5. George Lucas should never try to write love scenes. He doesn't strike me as the romantic guy.
6. Turning the Jedi into monks instead of samurai.
imperialscum said:
Well if it is true that they used Lucas' storyline for ST, then it is still Lucas to blame for non-consistencies.
How can an opinion be right?
And wasn't the point of the prequels to show that the Jedi are not superhuman? The Jedi are duped. They don't suspect betrayal because they have no reason to expect it. They're unwitting accomplices in their own destruction.
What, and not copy every post that you make, you mean? Well, I'll try but I can't make any promises.
I believe it's one of the few original memories I have from seeing the film back in 1983 (but, at my age, genuine memories often mix with fictional ones with alarming frequency). I noticed it, thought it funny, but it didn't take me out of the film any more than noticing how much the grid sequence in The Phantom Menace reminded me of Whacky Races or the swing across the Death Star chasm in A New Hope made me think of Errol Flynn or the close up on Obi-wan and Grievous in Revenge Of The Sith recalled the Westerns of Sergio Leone.
That's right. No more, no less.
Thanks for the comment.
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darklordoftech said:
Jedi stupidity. Thinking the Sith are extinct when the Sith have faked extinction before is absolutely nonsensical.