Easterhay

SilverWook said:

Smarting off to a mod is a fast track to warning #2.

SilverWook said:

Easterhay said:

Heero Yuy said:

Then I'd advise not taking cues from the apologists and autists from TF.N like you've been doing in your posts. I'm the one being level headed, objective, and analytical here. Demonstrably you've not been anything of the sort.

Do better next time. 

Do better next time? I'd relish the opportunity to give you a smack in the mouth. Don't refer to people as "autists" just because you don't like what they have to say. Nothing I have said amounts to that level of offense and your remark is completely uncalled for.

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eiyosus said:

I've noticed this place has gotten a bit more hostile in the last day or two.



*glares at the jawa*

Scruffy said:

Jackson has wrought exactly one change on the home video releases of the theatrical edition of LOTR.

Heero Yuy said:

Then I'd advise not taking cues from the apologists and autists from TF.N like you've been doing in your posts. I'm the one being level headed, objective, and analytical here. Demonstrably you've not been anything of the sort.

Do better next time. 

darklordoftech said:

Furthermore, if I want to say that the world is flat, I have the right to do so. Nobody's going to stop me. Also, what I call a movie isn't an "intellectual argument", it's a choice of words.

Anchorhead said:

Indy and Marion clearly had a past that was bordering on inappropriate.  Marion mentions it directly; "I was a child.  It was wrong and you knew it".

Whilst watching The Empire Strikes Back recently, it occurred to me how few fathers are actually featured in the saga. Given George Lucas’s apparently difficult relationship with his own father, could it be that George is working through these issues through his art? It’s not unknown for an artist to use their work as therapy, so I wouldn’t be at all surprised to find that this is more than mere coincidence.

Of course, there is a surfeit of father figures in the films – Luke has both Uncle Owen and Obi-wan to look up to and Qui-gon serves as a paternal substitute for both Obi-wan and Anakin – and they all get killed off. The only real fathers that I can think of are pretty lousy. You’ve got Anakin, obviously, a man with many flaws and has to be saved from himself by his son. And then you’ve got Owen’s father who, let’s face it, is pretty hopeless, being unable to save his wife and leaving her to certain death while his injuries heal.

Given the trend for recurring motifs in the films, it remains to be seen if the writers of the new film will do anything with the archetype of the failed father or if we actually see a successful father appear in the story. Will Han Solo be the one to buck the trend (if, indeed, the new film follows the premise of the EU and gives him children)?

Heero Yuy said:

why are you being such a dishonest, emotional argument making coward?

I'm not sure about playing games. What I am sure about is that you made a sweeping and wholly incorrect remark before and you've yet to address that; instead you're attempting to move on to discuss something else, something which isn't even apropos to this thread. And you have the gall to call people out on making "irrelevant" points.

Lucas won't be releasing any Star Wars films, OOT or otherwise, anyway, so that's another stupid question you've asked today.

Not really, no. If it pleases you, though, I will say "I don't like how he comes across".

Well, as I say, a lot can happen in 12 months.

Meanwhile, you're prattling on about a film that doesn't exist in a hopeless attempt to prove some kind of point. And I'm a what? A "PT crazy"? How quaint. Not to mention ironic.

Incidentally, if you want to avoid folk who have an answer for everything, stop asking so many stupid bloody questions.

How much demand for it is a moot issue. You're wrong and, um, you know you are.

Let's be real here. You're talking mince.

The question "will you still refer" is different to "when you refer". Hate to break that to you :)

Principal photography being finished does not a completed film make. A lot can happen in 12 months. You might want to ask me your second question when it becomes relevant.

Well, I'm still waiting for The Muppet's Christmas Carol uncut on DVD. Did Lucas direct that one, too? Since we're talking EVERY director...

You don't know the half of it.

As of now, there only exist six films in the saga so when I talk about Star Wars it's the six existing films to which I'm referring.

Well, Jackson has wrought more changes on his Tolkien films in a lot less time than it took Lucas to start revising his films so there's another difference. So god only knows how many versions will exist of both LOTR and The Hobbit in, say, thirty years' time.

Wow, that's the worst kind of partiality I've ever seen.

Jackson wanting to go back and alter his old films to tie in with his new ones is EXACTLY the same as Lucas's revisions.

My goodness, Look In, that really takes me back!

Favourite: X-wings approaching the Death Star in ANH
Also Ran: Stormtroopers and dewback on Tatooine in ANH; extended arrival at Cloud City and Ian McDiarmid with altered dialogue in TESB; extended victory in ROTJ

Least Favourite: "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" and subsequent footage of said arrival in TESB
Also Ran: Jabba in ANH

I know what people were calling it back in the day; I was one of them. And now it's been re-titled.

The point is not that is was once called something else; the point is that some still call it that. It's a stupid intellectual argument to continue to call it something which it isn't. You may as well say that people "used" to say the world was flat.

"Only on the opening crawl" - oh, well we can dismiss it then seeing as it's "only on the opening crawl".

Maybe Lucas wanted to make a trilogy about a hero with feet of clay. Why did Shakespeare write Hamlet, who's little more than a lunatic with a mother fixation? Why write Macbeth, a warrior-hero who orders for Macduff's children to be slain? Do all heroes have to be whiter than white and whinge about power converters?

I much prefer Anakin to Luke, who's flaws are more believable and is ultimately a much more interesting character.