DuracellEnergizer

kilik64 said:

What's ya'lls take on Talon Karrde? Didnt Zahn come up with him too? I think he's a pretty cool character.

My take is that he looks a helluva lot like Bruce Campbell with long hair and a mustache.

I read comics religiously when I was a kid back in the 90s, but I drifted away from the whole scene in the last ten years or so. I don't collect comics anymore, though I do take graphic novels out from the library and I have some cbr files on my computer.

It sucks, though, that I don't have many of my old comics anymore. I probably had at least a hundred of them, but I didn't take very good care of them and let them fall apart before finally cutting them apart for collages. God, what I would give to have my collection back again ... >:-(

From what I've seen, most Star Wars fans seem to think Zahn is a pretty good writer, even the fans that aren't EUphiles. I for one think he's a cut above the typical EU writer.

He does have too much of a hard on for Thrawn, though; the character features heavily in most of his stories, and perhaps it's time he moved on to focus on other characters.

Me am Bizarro Ric! Coruscant am not two small villages! You am not catching on pretty slowly!

Harmy said:

Oh, well, I don't know sh*t about that, I really don't care for anything pre-OT.

Hey, it's no problem. I'm not one of those guys who thinks every Star Wars fan should accept the EU as canon and to take it into consideration every time they talk about the subject =)

Frankly, my beef's with the PT fantards who run the EU and insist on shoving these stupid PT-inspired anachronisms into the mix; if anyone should be expected to be consistent with the established EU, it's them.

Ah, a classic quote from SOTL. Did any of you guys know that the part about the accent was ad-libbed on set, and that Foster was genuinely angered by Hopkins' words, that her upset response was genuine?

Harmy said:

Well, I for one think this picture looks kind of cool. It's a bow to the real world samurai origin of the Jedi. And as to the robes, the Jedi are basically a religious cult - look at how monks dressed hundreds of years ago and how they dress now, practically no change there.

But this is an illustration of a moment in time where the ancient Jedi didn't have a dress code, and weren't cultic in the practice of their religion. Your reasoning doesn't mesh with the EU's already established portrayal of the pre-PT Jedi Order.

The worst part of the Holiday Special for me is simply it's length - it's too long and except for the cartoon, rather boring. I don't take it very seriously, so the stupidity of it all doesn't really bother me.

Now, for stupidity that does bother me.

Yep, the proto-Jedi & proto-Sith colour coded their swords. :rollseyes:

The EU gets worse all the goddamn time.

M with Peter Lorre. Its okay, but frankly not as good as it's made out to be.

This one is just bizarre.

I first decided to write up my own version of the PT years ago, back in 2008. My original plan was to take the George Lucas scripts and simply touch them up - leave most of the actual storyline, characters, dialogue, scenes, etc. intact, but change some of the details so they would line up more with how I thought the PT should have unfolded (older Anakin, Yoda as Obi-Wan's master, clones as the enemy, stuff like that).

The decision was made to take AOTC - the prequel I thought was the worst and need the most rewriting - fix it up, and then work my way backward to the TPM script, touch it up, then finish with ROTS. In the end, though, that plan fizzled out; I did rewrite AOTC, but eventually tossed it out, never finishing the touch up on TPM or getting to ROTS. When I decided to start again on my alternate PT, I went with the classic linear approach - first prequel first, second prequel second, etc, etc. Instead of just touching up the Lucas scripts, I would scrap them almost totally, using only some of the plot ideas and scenes as a framework of sorts - a bare foundation to build upon.

But though the "Touched Up PT Edition" never made it off the ground, I did write down some ideas on how it would all unfold; here are the "touch ups" I conceived for TPM.

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The Clone Wars begin shortly before the first episode of the trilogy. Again, the conflict begins with inner turmoil affecting the Republic, with several dissatisfied planets seeking to separate and establish their own independant confederacy. The war causes peaceful trading relations between the Neimoidians and the people of Naboo to dissolve. The Trade Federation blockades Naboo, ultimately leading to a plan to invade the world and take direct control of its resources.

Obi-Wan is older, thirty years old, a Jedi Knight who was trained by Jedi Master Yoda. He is the only ambassador sent to Naboo; Qui-Gon is not with him. Ultimately he's the one who discovers Anakin on Tatooine and decides to take the boy on as his Padawan.

Qui-Gon is no longer the Master who trained Obi-Wan. Instead he is a friend of Obi-Wan, almost a father figure. His role is reduced; he does not journey with Obi-Wan to Naboo or Tatooine. He weilds a blue-green lightsaber instead of a green one.

Owen Lars is introduced. He is the half-brother of Anakin, born two years before him. He lived with Shmi and Anakin his whole life. He unsuccessfully attempted to change Anakin's mind when the boy chose to leave Tatooine to train under Obi-Wan, leading to a life-long grudge towards the Jedi Knight.

Palpatine (in his Darth Sidious persona) is never the shadowy Sith Lord working behind the scenes to sow discord within the Republic. Darth Maul fills that role, working as Palpatine's figurehead.

Darth Maul's role is expanded. He is the one who communicates with the Separatists and guides their actions (under Palpatine's orders). The end duel between Darth Maul and Obi-Wan ends with the Jedi slashing him through the shoulder instead through the torso. Maul survives and recovers to menace the Jedi again.

Anakin is twenty when Obi-Wan discovers him. He is not conceived by midi-chlorians and isn't "born from a virgin"; his father was an unknown Force-sensitive man who had a brief relationship with Shmi before he mysteriously disappeared.

The Gungans do not possess a thick Jamaican accent, and speak nearly average Basic.

Jar Jar Binks has a child-like personality, but he is also brave and not a bumbling buffoon.

The Podrace is replaced with a skyhopper race.

A mutual attraction between Anakin and Padmé is established almost instantly upon their introduction to one another. By the end of the first prequel, a tenuous romance is formed between them.

The Jedi are much like the Jedi in George's PT, and their opinion of and reaction towards Anakin is the same.

Poor [CENSORED] Smithers.

Has Lil Kate ever even watched the OOT? I'm gettin' the vague vibe that she probably hasn't.

CP3S said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

And that poor, sad, pathetic excuse of a man continued to jump through hoops all through the night.

Chewbacca?

I could never see Chewie being an EUphile ... unless he has suicidal tendancies; then it would make sense.