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- #883617
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- Return of the Jedi - Why so much hate? What do you guys think of it?
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Especially when you go for the jugular.
This user has been banned.
Especially when you go for the jugular.
Is Tom Petty going to steal her corpse, have dinner with it, and then dump it in the ocean? If so, I’m sold!
Jessica Alba can kiss my asphalt.
there was a reason Fox only wanted the middle part of his saga, even then they realised the rest of it was weak.
Except there was no “middle part” of any saga back then. That’s just Lucasian revisionism.
In my canon, orthodox Jedi believe that the Force consists of two distinct halves, the light side and the dark. While there is no consensus on the exact nature of the light/dark sides – some Jedi view them as intinsic elements of the Force while others see them more as arising from the individual – they still recognize the distinction and strive to avoid tapping into the dark side.
Dark and gray Jedi have a less rigid interpretation of the Force. Some recognize the light/dark duality but believe that one can tap into both without succumbing to either; others don’t recognize the duality at, believing the Force to be a single whole without any divisions.
The Sith have their own take on the nature of the Force distinct from the Jedi’s. While they accept that the Force has different, distinct parts, they don’t view the Force as consisting of two halves of light and dark; they believe instead that the Force exists in layers of order and chaos, with no sharp dividing line between the two. The Sith believe that order has to be actively maintained to keep nature from falling to chaos, and so they’re willing to use whatever means necessary to ensure order, even violence.
Palpatine views the Force as nothing more than chaotic, all-consuming darkness; the light side, if it has any objective existence at all, is just a pale shadow that will eventually be torn asunder in the end days.
The legion of non-Jedi/Sith Force religions hold to a wide range of differing interpretations of the Force, far too many to go into detail here.
In my mind, no one group or individual has a fully accurate grasp of the Force; they all see the Force, but they see it through a glass darkly. Personally, I think a fusion of the Aing-Tii and Potentium views of the Force comes closest to describing its true nature.
The darkside of the force=SITH
No, it doesn’t. The OT doesn’t even use the stupid name.
even the shitty prequels kept to that!
Of course they did! They established it!
I think it traces back to the early WEG days. WEG provided the very backbone, the foundation, for everything we know about the Star Wars universe outside of the films.
They did a lot of awesome work expanding the universe BUT there was one aspect of it that was eventually abandoned but the echoes of which could still be felt going forward. That aspect being that the original contention was that most of the galaxy was still unexplored and it was new founded Empire that was leading this charge to explore what was out there and to conquer, exploit and enslave anything and everyone they came across.
For the longest time, it was a fact that Mon Cala/Dac was a newly discovered planet within the OT timeframe.
Oh, why couldn’t the WEG guys have written the prequels?
Luke with an entire Ewok surgically attached to his arm would be horrifying indeed.
I wish this would get a Region 1 release.
Star Wars: THX 1138 is definitely a movie I want to see.
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^Best retort ever.
Just change “holiday” to “permanent”.
Well I guess some random insignificant EU author first draw it like that. The sad part is that instead of just discarding his/her stupid design, subsequent authors adopted it and tried to come up with all sorts of stupid explanation for it.
That’s the canon mentality in a nutshell.
Sexually frustrated people should not be given access to art supplies.
If you think this is bad, you should take a look at a modern DC or Marvel comic some time.
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On second thought, don’t.
There are already big warning signs for me
- The BB8 droid…Q. needed? A. No, we already have R2.
If you don’t know the story, then you can’t know if BB-8’s presence is superfluous, can you?
- Some of the creatures. Q. Its got Simon peg inside it so its cool. A. I don’t care and i’m not interested in celebs.
“Some of the creatures”. Can you be anymore vague and non-specific?
- Space ships battling above land (as seen in trailer) Q. Star Wars? A. Yes, indicates battles in SPACE.
The former doesn’t preclude the possibility of the latter.
- The title Q. couldn’t you think of anything else. A. The Force never went to sleep you thick c***
What’s in a name, anyway?
- Female protagonists Q. Haven’t we had enough of poor female characters in PT? A. Yes they added nothing!
By this logic, we shouldn’t have male protagonists, either, since we’ve all had enough of poor male characters in the PT, am I right?
- No Sith? Q: Isn’t there a darkside in Star Wars A. No, not anymore we have a new baddy though who like Siths WTF!!
I don’t know what you’re bitching about here. You don’t like the absence of Sith in the movie? That’s the filmmakers didn’t bother making Ren more visually unique in keeping with his status as a new kind of darksider?
If the former, boo-hoo; the Sith suck and they’ve almost singlehandedly ruined the franchise. If the latter, I’ll actually agree with you; Ren’s design is generic and lame.
It just goes to show that you can’t get different mileage from the same old car just because it’s now sporting an orange coat of paint instead of green.
Behold the pizzly, the best bear hybrid ever:
I’m all for making ROTJ more nasty but I would do it by adding more gore to the Ewok’s camp. Showing dead and partially eaten stormtroopers etc.
Something like this?
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On the other hand, something like the above would be more at home in Return of the Ridiculousness.
I was talking about darth_id. all he knows is assholery and as such should steer clear of this thread.
He really makes one miss the ignore button.
I almost wept when I saw the cover art below:
*shudder*
I think I liked Mos Espa’s sequences because they were the first steps towards Luke’s new journey
WRONG MOS!
Had a peculiar dream last night where I was a character in a werewolf movie.
If I recall the sequence of events correctly, my reluctant werewolf ex-lover betrayed me to her lycanthropic extended family, who promptly slaughtered me. I did get better, though.
sound in space
Quoth the Warbler, *sigh*
Sound in space is provided for the visceral benefit of the audience. That doesn’t mean it exists as in-universe phenomena.
From the sound of it, Phasma doesn’t do a whole lot in this movie, so I suspect she’ll be back.
Are you saying she’s a T-800?
I’m sure one of my past lives watched SW during its original run in theatres. Does that count?