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^That never should have been left on the cutting room floor.
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^That never should have been left on the cutting room floor.
For my money, this is the ultimate Tintin experience to be had outside of the books.
I loved that show when I was a kid.
In hindsight, though, it is strange that so many Belgian characters went around sporting Canadian accents. 😉
It’s funny but would never happen
Welcome to the wonderful world of memes, where minor character traits are overemphasized and exaggerated for humourous effect.
If the comics could get away with something as patently stupid as a Star Trek/X-Men crossover, I could see the same happen with Star Wars.
I just hope it never takes the form of a movie.
EXT. SPACE – CORELLIA
A small shuttle leaves the surface of the green-and-blue world of Corellia on a rendezvous for the titanic Dreadnought-class heavy cruiser Sunsabre.
INT. SHUTTLE/PASSENGER DECK
TWO JEDI, a knight and an apprentice, sit together in uncomfortable seats. The older Jedi is OBI-WAN KENOBI; he is twenty years old and wears his platinum blond hair cropped short except for two braids which hang down from his temples. QUI-GON JINN is sixteen years old; tall for his age, he wears his long dark hair up in a topknot.
While Obi-Wan reads from an activate datapad in his hands, Qui-Gon stares out the window to his right, an anxious expression creasing his face.
OBI-WAN: (cont’d) … in 96 PE, the last of the Jafan were ousted from power. That is when Char Naberrie stepped in. Claiming the throne and crown for himself, he assumed control over – (notices Qui-Gon’s daydreaming) Qui-Gon, are you listening to me? I don’t want to have to go over this with you a third time.
QUI-GON: I have a bad feeling about this.
OBI-WAN: (cocks an eyebrow) Bad feeling? About what?
QUI-GON: I sense something. Something elsewhere. Something … elusive.
OBI-WAN: You’re letting your anxiety over the coming mission get the better of you. Don’t dwell on it.
QUI-GON: Master Dohku said I should be mindful of the future ….
OBI-WAN: (returns to his datapad) I’m certain Master Dohku would also tell you to keep your concentration here and now where it belongs. (beat) Now, as I was relating to you before you so quietly distracted me ….
INT. SUNSABRE/DOCKING BAY
The shuttle cruises slowly through the opening of the Sunsabre’s dock. Touching down on the scuffed surface of the docking bay floor, the craft’s hatch pops open and lowers. With the hatch fully extended, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon exit the vessel.
Two Imperial officers, COMMANDER BAIL ORGANA and LIEUTENANT COMMANDER RAIA VANESS, approach the Jedi. Bail is a broad shouldered man in his late twenties with a thick head of solid black hair while Vaness is a young olive-skinned woman not much older than Organa.
OBI-WAN: (embraces Organa) Bail Organa. It has been too long.
BAIL: (grins) You’re on the team, you slick trickster? Good! Glad to have you aboard. (nods to Vaness) this is Raia Vaness, my trusted first officer and future wife – if she agrees to it, that is.
CMDR. VANESS: (salutes Obi-Wan) It is a pleasure to meet you, Knight Kenobi.
BAIL: (to Obi-Wan) Three years. (beat) How’s life been to you? Have you graduated yet or are you still carrying Yoda about on your shoulders?
OBI-WAN: I went through my final trials ….
BAIL: And …?
OBI-WAN: (cont’d) I passed. Master Yoda granted me knighthood four months ago.
BAIL: Congratulations! You should have informed me, though. We could have thrown a party.
OBI-WAN: (places a hand on Qui-Gon’s shoulder) Bail, this is Qui-Gon Jinn.
BAIL: (shakes Qui-Gon’s hand) Pleased to meet you, kid. (to Obi-Wan) So, the teacher’s on vacation?
OBI-WAN: Hmm?
BAIL: Just wondering why a trainee’s tagging along with you on your missions. You’re obviously not his instructor.
OBI-WAN: His master was badly injured fourteen months ago while on a mission on Orbos IX. He is still recuperating.
QUI-GON: Master Dohku thought it best that I tag along with Obi-Wan until he resumes active duty.
BAIL: (to Qui-Gon) Well, you’re in good hands; trust me on that one. (beat) Come, I want you two to meet the captain.
INT. SUNSABRE/BRIDGE
A door slides open and Organa, Vaness, and the two Jedi enter the bridge. The area is buzzing with activity, the bridge crew preparing the ship for transit.
A GRIZZLED, GRAY-HAIRED MAN in his late 130s rises from the seat placed at the centre of the bridge and, turning on a stiff hip, walks over to them.
BAIL: Capt. Malthus Antilles, this is Obi-Wan Kenobi and his partner Qui-Gon Jinn – the Jedi Knights assigned to our team.
CAPT. ANTILLES: Kenobi, eh? I heard of your work during the Alderaanian Incursion. From what I gather, you saved a lot of lives and the world itself from destruction.
OBI-WAN: It was a team effort, sir.
CAPT. ANTILLES: Regardless, even if you’re only a fraction as good as Organa and the news vids let on, you’ll still do all right.
OBI-WAN: Thank you, sir.
BAIL: (to Obi-Wan) We should go and get ready for the journey. (to Antilles) Request for dismissal, sir.
CAPT. ANTILLES: Denied.
BAIL: (taken aback) Sir?
CAPT. ANTILLES: (grins) Joking, Commander. On your way.
BAIL: Thanks sir. (to Obi-Wan) Obi-Wan.
Bail, Vaness, and the two Jedi leave the bridge through the door whence they came. As the door slides closed, the captain turns and returns to his seat, training his old eyes on the forward viewscreen.
CAPT. ANTILLES: Prepare the ship for lhyt-speed.
NAVIGATOR: Right away, sir.
EXT. SPACE – CORELLIA
The Sunsabre leaves the orbit around Corellia and begins to accelerate.
INT. SUNSABRE/BRIDGE
ADM. ANTILLES: Punch it.
EXT. SPACE – CORELLIA
The dreadnought elongates into strings of light, spaghettifying out of existence into the incomprehensible depths of hyperspace.
INT. SUNSABRE/DOCKING BAY
Bail and Vaness escort the Jedi to the Ptolemy. Shaped roughly like a milk carton turned on its side, the Ptolemy is an old, beat-up shuttle – far older and far more beat-up than any of the other vessels currently residing within the docking bay.
BAIL: Here’s the piece of junk we’ll be riding down to Nabu on. Let me give you the grand tour.
Passing through the shuttle’s open hatch, the four enter the Ptolemy.
INT. PTOLEMY/COCKPIT
Bail and Vaness bring Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon into the shuttle’s cramped cockpit. Several mechanics and technicians already take up the small space, checking and calibrating the onboard instruments.
BAIL: (to a simian technician) How goes it, Andross? The engine tape holding?
ANDROSS: Just checking the flux capacitor readings, Commander.
BAIL: Good job. Wouldn’t want to go to lhyt-speed with that thing hanging loose.
ANDROSS: No sir!
BAIL: Keep it up. (to Obi-Wan) Sure is something, isn’t she? The ship, I mean.
OBI-WAN: (gives the shabby interior of the cockpit a once-over) Oh, she certainly is at that.
BAIL: Well, the Ptolemy’s nothing special, to tell you the Lord’s honest truth. Civilian-standard armour and shields; limited offensive and defensive capabilities; hyperdrive rates at the low end of the spectrum. She’s definitely not a warship.
OBI-WAN: Pity.
BAIL: I’ll tell you something, though. It really all comes down to the sublight engines. The Ptolemy puts all other standard shuttles to shame in that regard. Do you know how long it takes a turbolaser blast to travel a distance of 384,400 km?
OBI-WAN: Well –
BAIL: The Ptolemy can reach Nabu’s surface in half the time. And when it comes to dodging – boy, can this rust bucket dodge!
OBI-WAN: Bail ….
BAIL: Yes?
OBI-WAN: You’re still damning with faint praise. I thought you’d be over that by now, but here you are, going on like we were back on Alderaan. Tsk, tsk.
The commander and the Jedi Knight laugh together over their shared secret joke. The four allies then depart the craft, leaving the workers within to finish their work.
INT. NABU – DUKE JUSTIN’S MANSION/VAULT – SUNSET
JUSTIN NABERRIE, Duke of Hales, sits at a small table playing dejarik with the short 'droid ICU-132, a single lamp illuminating the small rough-hewn stone walls of the vault.
DUKE JUSTIN: (gleeful) I’m winning, Eye-Seeyou.
ICU-132: That is because you programmed me to lose, milord.
DUKE JUSTIN: Don’t be absurd. This is raw skill on display!
ICU-132: You are a bad loser, Lord Justin. Though it grieves you to hear that, nothing in either my soft or hardware prevents me from making that clear to you.
DUKE JUSTIN: (annoyed) It’s your move, (under his breath) you bucket of corroded bolts.
Before the 'droid can make it’s move, sparks begin to fly from the thick durasteel door of the vault. Freezing solid with dread, Justin watches as an orange circle is slowly cut into the metal door. Once the circuit is complete, the excised metal is pushed out, allowing Gen. Sheelal to enter the vault with a pair of battle 'droids.
DUKE JUSTIN: What are you waiting for Eye-Seeyou?! Defend me!
A pair of vibroblades extend from ICU-132’s wrists and the little 'droid pounces upon the intruders. One of the BXs aims its blaster at the 'droid and fires, blasting ICU-132 apart.
DUKE JUSTIN: No!
Justin stands up and backs away into a corner as Sheelal draws a vibrosword and approaches him.
DUKE JUSTIN: Please, don’t kill me! I’ll give you anything you want – anything! I’m very, very rich! I mean it!
GEN. SHEELAL: (activates the vibrosword) There’s only one thing you have that I want, Duke.
DUKE JUSTIN: Ancestors preserve me!
Sheelal slashes upward, separating the duke’s head from his shoulders. Blood splashes back on the stone walls as the lifeless body collapses.
GEN. SHEELAL: (cont’d) Your head.
Sheelal turns away from the headless corpse and leaves the cold vault. The two automatons follow after him.
Why is it illegal for them to post outside their thread?
http://originaltrilogy.com/announcement/Important-Message-Regarding-Team-Accounts/id/18184
Negative1 – not the team, but clearly the individual himself – has been ignoring this rule, now and in the past.
Frankly, I think it’s about time he got a much-deserved spanking.
Your opinion indeed, ROTJ is the end of saga so will never be bettered by any sequel. Star Wars started with anh and finished with jedi. Anything after that is just am expercise in mass commercialism, consumerism and capitalism. The myth has gone, the magic vanished, the force… Tainted.
The grandiosity … overwhelms me.
To my side, faithful companions! Brace this frail flesh as it succumbs to the immovable logic of Bosk, avatar of fleet-footed Mercury himself!
The Kids in the Hall is definitely a show I need to check out sometime.
EXT. SWAMP – DAY
The royal children and their bodyguards move through the swamp, winding their way through the tall trees and the thick foliage along a narrow path, taking as much care as possible to keep silent and remain from being seen.
OETA: (grumbling) Stupid speeder. Couldn’t get past the trees, could it? Had to get stuck, didn’t it? (to Panaka) I’m tired of this! My legs are cramping up!
AMIDALA: Shhh, Etey. This is hard on all of us. It’ll be over soon. I promise.
CAPT. PANAKA: Don’t worry, little prince. Lake Paonga has underwater tunnels that’ll take us straight to Otoh Gunga. We’re almost there.
AMIDALA: A group of Gunga will be waiting to take us to the city. We won’t have to find our way there alone.
CAPT. PANAKA: (hears a sound) Quiet! What’s that? (beat) Listen.
Standing completely still, they notice the low, distant WHINE of single trooper aerial platforms approaching. Moving fast, Panaka searches the area around them and finds a small, shallow pond half-hidden beneath the deep flora of the bog.
CAPT. PANAKA: (to his men) Grab the children and get over here! Take cover – quick!
The bodyguards hurry over to the pond, dragging the royal children with them, and roughly push them into the stagnant slime. Panaka and his men slowly lower themselves in after the children, keeping their heads and shoulders raised slightly above the mire, obscuring themselves behind the foliage as they bring their blasters into firing position.
A convoy of battle 'droids slowly cruises by, moving along the path the Nabu were following. The machines survey the area, looking out for their quarry, but fail to spot them. The automatons soon move out of view, disappearing into the thick trees.
AMIDALA: (whispers) Is it safe to come out now?
CAPT. PANAKA: (whispers) I think so. We should be cautious though. They may come back.
The royal children and their bodyguards draw themselves out of the murky water, stepping onto dry ground and wringing the moisture from their clothes. Panaka tentatively peers down the direction the Neimoidian ‘droids took. He signals the others to come to him. They join the captain.
CAPT. PANAKA: We’ll have to take an alternate route to the lake. We don’t want to come up behind those robots.
A line of blasterfire suddenly flashes past – missing their heads by centimetres – and shatters the branch of a nearby tree, sending its leaves ablaze.
A sole BX – a straggler – zooms down the path atop its STAP, firing its guns on approach.
CAPT. PANAKA: Kids, duck! (to his men) Open fire!
Ric Olié tackles Amidala and Oeta to the ground as the airborne 'droid speeds by them. The bodyguards aim and fire at the machine, their blasterfire striking the battle 'droid before it can reorient itself and evade, destroying the robot and demolishing its floating platform.
CAPT. PANAKA: We’ve gotta get moving. Let’s go!
Olié takes Oeta into his arms. They take a detour off to the left of the path and run through the thick trees as the convoy of Federation 'droids backtrack to their position, opening fire. A few 'droids try to follow them on their STAPs but are unable to maneuver past the thick trees; they end up blowing themselves to pieces against the massive trunks.
The Nabu try to stay together, attempting to huddle close to one another and run through the ingrown trunks at the same time. Amidala looks behind her to see the battle 'droids now following them on foot.
AMIDALA: Capt. Panaka, they’re following us!
CAPT. PANAKA: Just hold on, girl. We’re almost there.
EXT. SWAMP – SHORELINE – DAY
The heirs and their protectors finally break through the final line of trees, setting foot on the long shoreline of a vast lake. Far in the distance to their right stands a SEXTET OF GUNGA WARRIORS, in wait beside a partially submerged bongo submarine. The Gunga warriors are tall, lean, frog-like creatures armed with unusually shaped rifles.
The Nabu begin to run toward the Gunga. As they cross the shore, the Neimoidian automatons emerge from the trees. Gaining chase, the 'droids fire after the Humans.
LEAD GUNGAN: This way! Come! Hurry!
The Nabu make it to the Gunga and their bongo. The lead Gungan picks up Oeta and lowers him into the aquatic craft. Amidala steps into the submarine after him, followed by the bodyguards. Once the Humans are inside, the Gunga turn their weapons on the mechanical soldiers, cutting down three of them before entering the bongo themselves.
INT. GUNGAN BONGO/COCKPIT – DAY
The lead Gungan starts up the bongo’s controls and begins to steer the craft out into deeper waters.
EXT. SWAMP – SHORELINE – DAY
The battle 'droids come upon the bongo as it submerges, futilely firing into the blue water as the submarine lowers down and disappears beneath the liquid surface.
EXT. SPACE – CORUSCANT
A small bright streak of light flashes into existence, transforming into a Nabuan courier ship. The craft flies on an unsteady course toward the bronze ecumenopolis.
INT. COURIER SHIP/COCKPIT
The COURIER, a short man in his mid-twenties, struggles to stabilize his turbulent trajectory. Fighting with the ship’s controls, he pulls the goggles over his eyes up and off, wiping the sweat from his brow as he does so.
COURIER: No good … no good … this is not good.
EXT. SPACE – CORUSCANT
One of the courier ship’s engines suddenly flashes bright, throwing the whole craft into a spin. The craft tumbles toward a giant orbiting mirror. It strikes the reflective surface of the mirror, damaging the fragile material, and careens off, falling into Coruscant’s atmosphere in an uncontrolled re-entry.
INT. COURIER SHIP/COCKPIT
Klaxons begin to blare and warning lights begin to flash. The courier flips a number of switches and presses a couple buttons.
COURIER: (panicking) Lateral controls are gone now?! Dammit it all to hell! Why is this happening to --?!
EXT. CORUSCANT – GALACTIC CITY – DAY
Several Coruscanti civilians notice the courier ship as it descends from the sky trailing smoke, pointing skyward with expressions of alarm on their faces.
INT. COURIER SHIP/COCKPIT – DAY
COURIER: Please hold together, baby, please? You hear me, you piece of junk?! Hold together! (yells) Hold together long enough for me to land you and safely get the hell out!
EXT. GALACTIC CITY – PLAZA – DAY
The courier manages to stabilize the craft just enough to make a safe, if rough, landing on a plaza. A crowd gathers as fire and medical units arrive on the scene.
The ship’s outer hatch pops open and the courier staggers out. Medics rush to aid him as he collapses to the ground; reaching him, they lift him into a stretcher.
MEDIC: Are you hurt? Did you sustain injuries on the way in? Sir, can you hear me?
COURIER: I – I have to speak to the Senate – the chancellor! The Federation – the Neimoidians have taken over Nabu! I have to get help --!
MEDIC: It will all be taken care of. For now let us help you. Let’s get you looked at.
COURIER: You don’t understand! The royal family sent me! We have to get back to them before it’s too late!
MEDIC: (to his colleagues) Let’s get him out of here.
INT. SENATE BUILDING/CHANCELLOR’S OFFICE – SUNSET
The two highest ranking members of the Coruscanti Jedi Council – MACE WINDU and YADDLE – stand before the desk of SUPREME CHANCELLOR VANTOS COLL, a robust middle-aged male Human. While Windu is a bald, dark-skinned Human male, Yaddle is a short, gnome-like female creature with green skin, long, tapered ears, and shoulder-length brown hair. Both are attired in the black-and-gray uniforms of Coruscanti Jedi masters.
VANTOS COLL: (trailing his fingers back-and-forth along the desktop; cont’d) You now see why we need your help with this situation, masters. In your capable hands we can surely succeed.
MACE WINDU: Understood. This will be a difficult undertaking, Chancellor. There can be no doubt about that.
VANTOS COLL: None whatsoever, Master Windu, which is why I’m asking only for your top acolytes for this mission.
YADDLE: Our best?
VANTOS COLL: Indeed, if it is not too much to ask ….
MACE WINDU: (turns to Yaddle) There is Master Nivlem at the academy on Chommell Minor. It’s the closest world to Nabu with a Jedi presence ….
JARD DOHKU: (O.C.) The fleet amasses around Corellia, does it not?
Hearing the deep, resonating voice, the two Jedi masters turn around. Standing there in the open door behind them is Jedi Master JARD DOHKU. A tall, imposing man in his sixties, Dohku has dark brown hair turning silver at the temples. Like Yaddle and Windu, Dohku is adorned in the garb of Coruscanti Jedi masters. Unlike them, however, he relies on a black cane for support.
JARD DOHKU: (cont’d) I hope I’m not intruding ….
VANTOS COLL: No, of course not. Come in. (beat) As for your question, the fleet is assembling above Corellia. Why do you ask?
JARD DOHKU: A friend of mine, Obi-Wan Kenobi, is stationed there with my apprentice. They are assisting the Corellians in their rebuilding efforts.
VANTOS COLL: Obi-Wan Kenobi. (beat) He was the one who helped repel the clones from Alderaan, wasn’t he?
JARD DOHKU: Indeed he was. If it weren’t for his efforts, Alderaan would have been lost to the Athans.
VANTOS COLL: And he’s one of yours?
MACE WINDU: (stoney) No, he is not.
YADDLE: A ronin is Kenobi – a Jedi Knight without an order.
VANTOS COLL: Indeed?
JARD DOHKU: When Obi-Wan drove the clones from Alderaan, he was but an apprentice. In the time since, he has gone through his trials and attained the rank of full knight. He is more than capable of handling a mission of this enormity.
MACE WINDU: (frowns) We have acolytes of our own who are capable of handling the task. We do not need to enlist the aid of an outsider to do our job for us.
JARD DOHKU: Obi-Wan has proven himself.
MACE WINDU: That is beside the point! Kenobi is –
VANTOS COLL: (raises his hand) Enough. I’ve already made my decision. (to Dohku) As you said, Kenobi does not belong to your sect. Are you certain he would be willing to partake in this mission on your behalf?
JARD DOHKU: Not on our behalf, no, but he would do it because it is the right thing to do.
VANTOS COLL: Very well. It’s decided, then. We will assign Obi-Wan Kenobi to the Nabu rescue mission.
While Dohku smiles at this news, Windu can only frown with distaste.
INT. SAAK’AK/CORRIDOR OUTSIDE NUTE GUNRAY’S PERSONAL CHAMBERS
Deep within the confines of the Neimoidian Lucrehulk-class battleship Saak’ak, Viceroy Nute Gunray slinks down an empty corridor, moving with an unnatural stiffness which betrays his desire to remain unnoticed. Coming to a door he stops, looks down both ends of the corridor to make certain no one is around to see him, then opens the door and quickly slips inside the dim chamber beyond, closing the door behind him.
INT. SAAK’AK/HOLOPROJECTION CHAMBER
Gunray steps into the darkened chamber. In the centre rests a large holographic display. At his approach, the display surges to life, projecting the three-dimensional, blue-tinted image of a shadowy horned figure clad in black robes. This is the Zabrak KHAMEIR SARIN.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Speak.
NUTE GUNRAY: We have secured Nabu, my liege. We had the city of Theed bombarded, as you requested, and stormed the palace. Our soldiers disposed of King and Queen Naberrie and the princess Sola.
KHAMEIR SARIN: And what of Oeta and Amidala?
NUTE GUNRAY: Ah, yes – yes! As you see, my lord ….
KHAMEIR SARIN: (frustrated) Out with it, you blithering worm.
NUTE GUNRAY: Yes, Lord. See, I – I mean we, we … the ‘droids –
KHAMEIR SARIN: (angry) Now!
NUTE GUNRAY: They escaped us – twice.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Twice.
NUTE GUNRAY: At the palace and in the swamps. The Gungans – this world’s aboriginals – are helping them. We know that they live in aquatic cities. We’re attempting to locate the nearest settlement relative to their last known position.
KHAMEIR SARIN: (enraged) You ignorant fool – the Gunga are allied with the Nabu! You didn’t stop to consider that they would assist the royal family beforehand?!
NUTE GUNRAY: My lord, we didn’t think –
KHAMEIR SARIN: Precisely! You don’t think! You are as stupid as you are clumsy!
NUTE GUNRAY: Liege –
KHAMEIR SARIN: Shut up. I will hear no more of your pitiful excuses.
KHAMEIR SARIN: As you wish, my lord. I serve only to please you.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Once you have found the Gungan city, destroy it. We will not be taking any chances with these children; I want them dead.
NUTE GUNRAY: Yes, Liege, as you command. (beat) I ….
KHAMEIR SARIN: You have something more to say?
NUTE GUNRAY: My lord, the Empire will not stand for this. I fear we will face a retaliation from them sooner rather than later.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Have your ships formed a blockade around Nabu?
NUTE GUNRAY: Our capital ships are in orbit around Nabu, yes, keeping patrol, but there aren’t enough of them to cordon off the entire planet.
KHAMEIR SARIN: The Ragnos’ Vengeance is still on approach?
NUTE GUNRAY: It is still on its way, Lord.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Then don’t worry yourself. Once it has arrived, you will have no need of further ships.
NUTE GUNRAY: My lord … it was a risky move siphoning ships away from the main fleet for this invasion. The Board has not sanctioned this endeavour; should they learn of my involvement ….
KHAMEIR SARIN: Should you fail me, Viceroy, there will be a greater dread than persecution from the Imperials or your fellow Neimoidians waiting in store for you. I promise you this.
NUTE GUNRAY: (swallows audibly) As my lord wishes.
KHAMEIR SARIN: Serve me well, Viceroy. You will be soon rewarded.
The viceroy bows before Sarin’s image. As the holographic Zabrak passes his hand over the Neimoidian’s form, the hologram dissolves and the display grows dark.
On the contrary, he’d have to be easily pleased to rank ROTS above TESB.
They’re same as his dad’s, I’d assume.
I’ve already supplied my reasoning for my dislike of any spin offs of the OT. They are not star wars films. They fail to follow the iconography, the codes and conventions, the mis en scene and the mythological creation of the OT.
Basically you’re saying you don’t like anything that dares to be different, regardless of its actual quality.
Yep – that’s an OT chauvinist in the nutshell.
So saying you are disappointment doesn’t mean a whole lot.
LOL. If only he had said that.
Yeah, I like Thrawn, I like Mara Jade. I don’t like every single book the characters have ever made an appearance or been mentioned in, but the core books – the Thrawn Trilogy, the Hand of Thrawn Duology, that comic miniseries about Mara Jade released back in the '90s – yeah, I like them.
Now tell me how heretical a stance that is for an EU critic to hold to.
- Star Wars
- Revenge of The Sith
- The Empire Strikes Back
- Attack of The Clones/The Phantom Menace/Return of The Jedi(with Victory Celebration)
- Return of The Jedi sans Victory Celebration
- The Special Edition OT
- The Force Awakens
Have you even seen TFA or do you just disregard it because Lucas wasn’t involved?
I just found it to be a complety imagination-free unispired cash grab.
Feel free to “objectively” disprove my statement.I can’t disprove how you feel, regardless of how crazy I think your feelings and rankings are.
With that said, ROTS has been scientifically proven to be a terrible film.
I would like to see a peer reviewed study on the subject.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0TGcvtzjUs
and then this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hD7xZFLhTq8
You’re welcome.
Most of EU is crap, but not all EU is bad. Of course, the most stupid EU is the most popular one coming from books/comics,
And then …
Mara Jade stuff, Thrawn stuff
… my eyes glazed over.
Why would anyone feel any love or dedication to a universe that kills off most of your favourite characters?
You must not have heard about Game of Thrones 😃
Heard about it? Yes. Read the books/watched the TV show? No. 😛
Also, if George decided to make Episode VII instead of selling to Disney, do you think for one second that he would have remained faithful to the Fat Dancer getting married to Luke story? Of course not.
If he had done so, I guarantee that none of the EUphiles would be complaining about it at all. See, Lucas never had any respect for the EU and blantantly contradicted it at every turn while making the SEs and PT, but the fanboys never once took him to task for any of it. Instead they just dismissed it with the old “It’s his universe/vison, he doesn’t have to kowtow to the EU if he doesn’t want to” mantra. Lucas’ transgressions are ignored or trivialized while the other Lucasfilm writers – the ones who only followed his example – are reviled as unholy blasphemers.
I think therein lies the primary reason why I don’t like most of the EU; the contents suck, but it’s the self-entitled, double-standardizing fans that really piss me off.
No OOT, no sale.
Ranking a PT film over ESB. Bollocks.
FTFY
ESB is extremely overrated IMO. It’s extremely good mind you, just not as good as Lucas’s masterful opening and closings of his saga.
I know no expletives in any human tongue that express my sentiments towards this post, thus I shall make up my own.
KEELJ-QHAK GELL’TAHN PEL!!! TRAKH-PHAN TUL’PA SHNEQ-TAHL CES!!! PLOHT!!!
Can you believe people wrote petitions and “Gave up on Star Wars” because they wiped out a universe where “Fat Dancer” is basically Luke’s best friend and the three-eyed son of Palpatine takes over the Empire? Ugh. I’m so glad it’s all gone.
Yeah, I’ll never understand the EU fantards. The real kicker is that most of them are fans of Mara Jade and the Solo kids, but all but one of those characters were all dead by the time the EU drew to a close. Why would anyone feel any love or dedication to a universe that kills off most of your favourite characters?
I wish I knew. Google image search yielded no answers.
Thinking about finally getting around to The Stand when I’m done the Bradbury, but the page count has me skittish.
I share your trepidation.