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#1312983
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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NeverarGreat said:

I saw this early this morning on two hours of sleep and I haven’t had any more, so I’m definitely in a fit state to talk about this film.

I liked it.

The crawl lands like a passenger airline on an L.A. expressway and crashes into the first scene, killing everyone. I don’t know if Kylo was fighting the Knights of Ren or helping them kill some other people and I don’t think it matters. What matters is that while rooting around in the garbage behind Rian’s apartment JJ also managed to rescue the pieces of Kylo’s mask and welded them back together with his own blood. An alien tells R2 via SATA cable that Sheeve is back and has to outrun some TIE fighters, but makes them so mad that they forget they can’t go into Hyperspace for a minute, but they can’t catch the Falcon because it has gone so fast that it is on fire.

Meanwhile Rey is in the jungle with too much Force power and little by little is going insane.

Everyone decides to get out of the jungle and go to the desert to find a magical D4 or a dagger or something that leads to Sheeve. Rey gets a nice necklace from an alien and then has it immediately stolen by Kylo despite him not being there, and who is apparently jealous that someone else is giving her jewelry. They find the Horcrux after conquering Devil’s Snare and befriending the Basilisk, but it is stolen by some bad Quiddich players who also make off with its bearer, Chewbacca. Rey shoots spells at them and blows them up and is sad about killing Chewie, whom she doesn’t sense in the transport during any of this despite that being something she can do effortlessly.

Kylo flies straight at Rey with an entire spaceship and loses. This is the most normal part of the scene.

Anyway, C-3PO needs to nuke his hard drive to read some Black Speech and to do that they need a hacker, so they go to a planet where the First Order is harvesting babies to meet Poe’s old buddy Mask Lady and her puppet friend. Mask Lady has a medallion that makes the First Order act extra stupid for one scene and gives it to Poe, who immediately spends it, and this makes Hux stupid for the rest of his dumb life. It also allows our heroes to rescue Chewie, who was only dead inside, and also steal the dagger from the prop department before they could finish it.

The Falcon crashes onto Endor because it has no landing gear and is too tired at this point to hover.

Rey goes to the complex of Extremely Expensive and Devastating Distractions (E2-D2) and is distracted by an evil version of herself into rolling a 1 on her magic D4, causing it to be picked up by Kylo who then fights her. She rolls another 1, and is defeated. Leia must spend her last action on an E2-D2, and when Kylo rolls to save he is defeated as well. Rey has a free action which she uses to heal Kylo, then takes the D4 and Kylo’s second spaceship to Luke’s island, where it bursts into flames. It is unclear whether this is simply how Kylo’s spaceships are designed to land.

Luke demands that Rey leave and throws his gross, waterlogged spaceship at her.

Rey finally faces Sheeve, champing at the bit to finally kill this monster. Sheeve gleefully cackles that he wants Rey to kill him so that his consciousness may flow into her and he will be immortal, and then checks himself with a ‘shit, did I really say that out loud’ expression. This ruins his whole plan.

Meanwhile, Rose, Finn and Jannah.

Meanwhile there are many Star Destroyers and, in keeping with their namesake, each one is capable of destroying an entire planet.

Meanwhile, the Falcon visits approximately 1,138 planets on its newly installed Recruitment Drive.

Kylo reminds everyone that he is still in the movie but he has foolishly thrown away his lightsaber after hallucinating an image of his dead father. Luckily, Rey has an extra one from where Luke was throwing things at her, and distracts the editor long enough to phase between locations and give it to him. They both face Sheeve, who drains them of their will to live and then gets to work on their life force. He throws Kylo down a big pit, knowing that this will surely kill him.

There is a cavalry charge on top of a spaceship. This is the most normal part of the scene.

Meanwhile, Klaud.

I forget how Sheeve dies. I blame Klaud. Maybe Klaud did it. Maybe he did all of this. I don’t know anymore.

Rey dies. Kylo emerges from the pit and brings Rey back to life at the cost of his own. Rey, upon awakening and seeking Kylo dead, brings Kylo back to life at the cost of her own. This continues for some time. They kiss. One of them dies, I don’t care which.

At the end there is a funeral for Snap Wexley and he posthumously gets the medal intended for Chewie. There are cheers and warm embraces, all live in the light of a new day for this, the galaxy reborn. The yoke of the First Order, which has lain heavy across much of the galaxy for a few weeks, has been lifted. The Rule of Palpatine, which lasted for thirty years and eight hours, is ended forever. Bask in this light, galaxy of peace.

Rey gets a yellow lightsaber. The camera falls to the ground, where it continues recording for several seconds.

Awesome, just awesome!

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#1312847
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Mocata said:

This movie was hilariously dumb. A huge rickety mess that I laughed out loud during. I kinda liked it. But it’s not good.

My feelings exactly, intellectually I think it’s a pretty bad movie, but it still was very entertaining. Just shut down your brain, and you will have a terrific time.

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#1312840
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<strong>The Rise Of Skywalker</strong> — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Creox said:

Peter Pan said:

Creox said:

act on instinct said:

But at what cost!?

As one who loved TLJ and the risks it took, I would say the cost was caving into fan service over originality. I really liked a lot about TROS but an extension of what Rian started would have been a lot better imo.

Just rewatched TLJ and have to agree, it is pure magic and imo easily the greatest Star Wars.

That’s saying something…seriously. I rank TLJ number three (or four depending on what day you ask)

I rank it at the bottom. For me it fundamentally clashes with the story and characters Lucas envisioned. I really don’t like the meta approach to Star Wars, even if I don’t think it is a bad film when viewed in isolation.

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#1312837
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Creox said:

Does anyone know WHY Lucas stubbornly clings to his decision? Is he embarrassed about the original release or is he just being that controlling of his creation? or is it something else?

I find his decision to date quite puzzling on the surface of it.

I read a few years back, that Lucas once attended a screening of Star Wars, and only while watching it realized it was the theatrical cut. He seemed very uncomfortable watching it. I think he really feels the theatrical versions are unfinished to the point, that he’s embarrassed about the technical flaws in the film, like for example the blob underneath the speeder, or the degradation of several shots, due to optical compositing.

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#1312766
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

I just think having Rey’s power being tied to a male bloodline feels so lazy and totally defeats her purpose in my eyes. And regardless if you feel she needs to be related to someone, I think cramming all that information into the last movie was a mistake. If they wanted her to be Rey Palpatine, they should’ve told Rian that’s the direction they want to go in. But once his movie was out and she wasn’t, Abrams should’ve continued painting that picture rather than trying paint over what was already on the canvas.

The problem is, that JJ already felt RJ painted over his canvas, and so JJ painted over RJ’s. This gives the trilogy an even more obvious meta feel with the directors arguing what the direction of Star Wars should be through their work.

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#1312679
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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raderun said:

I had time to think a bit about TROS and how it compares to ROTJ.

I’ve seen TROS only once so far, but I’m already ranking it higher than ROTJ. Btw, I also rank TFA higher than ROTJ. ROTJ feels similar to TLJ in that only the story-line between the central protagonist and antagonist is interesting. Leia, Han and Lando all feel like shells of their former selves, just like Fin, Poe and Rose are not real characters in TLJ, but robots to fill the story. Which is ironic, because TLJ was desperate to be the most inclusive Star Wars film, while TROS just focused on getting the spirit of Star Wars right and managed to be much more inclusive this way by accident. Every characters is a living and breathing human being, much more so than in both TLJ and ROTJ.

I also think that TROS takes the themes and controlling idea of ROTJ and plays with them in an interesting way. To me, ROTJ was about choosing family over power. That was the core choice that both Luke and Vader had to make. Yes, it was also about saving your friends for Luke, but that always felt like a secondary goal to me. The climax of ROTJ was all about saving your family for Luke. In TROS the choice is further muddled as Rey has to choose between her true powerful family and her friends, the surrogate family she developed along her journey. We also get to explore some of Reys darker needs, as behind her motivation to have a family lies a desire to be powerful and strong, to the point of wanting to dominate others. We see this when she stops for a moment to contemplate the offer Palpatine is making. It’s a great dilemma that really hits at the core of her character. It’s not really a family that she wants, as she already has that with the Resistance and her friends, but a hidden need to be powerful, which is probably the result of a lifetime of abuse she had to endure on Jakku.

It’s everything good storytelling is about. It’s also better than what ROTJ did, because there was never really a question about Luke’s choice. Luke never wanted to be powerful and dominate others, so the Emperor never had leverage over him. His rage when he defeated Vader was just something that came up at that moment, but was never really something that he had to struggle with during his arc. Luke always was a good guy. Rey on the other hand wants to be good, but she also has a really strong and selfish need to belong to a family, which I interpreted as a desire to be powerful. This desire to dominate came out in all her light sabre fights of the ST. You already can see it in TFA when she displays a predatory body language while defeating Kylo. It’s a weakness that can be exploited by a manipulator like Palpatine. And it’s this weakness that really makes her choice in TROS more interesting than the one Luke had to make in ROTJ. Yeah, Rey really was physically much more stronger than Luke, but it’s the psychological realm where she is much more vulnerable than Luke. Luke always was committed to the good side and his self-assured aura displayed in ROTJ is never matched by Rey, even at the end of TROS on Tatooine. Luke never really had to suffer the same kind of horrors during his childhood as he had a sheltered and protective upbringing. Luke had love during his childhood. Rey on the other hand had to survive on her own and naturally there is much more rage inside her, which results in a desire to be self-reliant, powerful and dominant, which is perfectly expressed by the writing and her acting.

So yeah, I think TROS is way better than ROTJ. Not only is it better at capturing the spirit of Star Wars, but it also has better writing and more interesting characters.

I disagree. Everything in TROS feels rushed with zero time to breath. There’s a ridiculous amount of exposition in the first half of the film, and the writing is very clunky, where the spy literally says to the audience: “I’m the spy!”, as if it wasn’t clear from what happens in the scene. The movie is full of plot holes, and a lot of it feels contrived from Palpatine’s sudden return to Ben’s sudden turn from Supreme Leader to a good guy faster than Anakin turning from a Jedi to a Sith. Almost nothing is explained:

  • How is Palpatine alive?
  • Where did he get such an enormous fleet, and personel?
  • Why did he wait over three decades to reveal himself?
  • Where did that huge rebel fleet come from, and why does Lando succeed instantly in convincing the entire galaxy to join the fight, when Leia could not after SKB had been destroyed? In the words of Han Solo: convenient…
  • Why does Force lighting almost instantly kill Palpatine, when it didn’t in ROTS, and why does Palpatine not stop using it, if it kills him? He could easily jump away from Rey, as he’s done in the past. It’s not as if he was cornered like in ROTS.
  • etc, etc.
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#1312661
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DominicCobb said:

Vader’s redemption is pretty bad honestly and comes out of nowhere. Kylo’s redemption has at least been 3 whole movies in the making. The specific moment with Leia is not handled very well but otherwise this is definitely something they’ve improved upon (though there isn’t anything that touches the moment when Vader turns).

The problem for me is, that TLJ to a large degree was about Kylo’s potential redemption, and in the end he chose to become the Supreme Leader. For me TROS didn’t provide a compelling reason to backtrack on that significant development of his character, and it thus feels unearned for me, despite Adam Driver’s good acting. At the end of TLJ Kylo Ren becomes the Emperor, while in TROS he is quite clumsily forced into the Darth Vader role again right down to the mask. For me TESB was always in part about Vader obsessively searching for his son, indicating that his priorities had shifted. Having failed to convert his son, Vader sort of came across as a broken man in ROTJ, resigned to his fate to be replaced by his son (it is too late for me son). Luke gave him an alternative path, that he only took when he was forced to choose between serving a master, who would replace him, or save his son.

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#1312658
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Shopping Maul said:

DrDre said:

Shopping Maul said:

I see the supposed rejection of ROTJ’s ‘happily ever after’ as more of a reaction to ROTJ than anything else. People seem to have forgotten what a disappointment that film was, not just to many fans but to folks who were involved in the films. I’m pretty sure that’s why the comics had Luke turn to the Dark Side in the 90s, or why we have a ‘disillusioned Luke in exile’ in TFA with Han having his long overdue death scene. Not everyone left the 1983 Ewok party feeling satisfied. I’m more than happy to see ROTJ as ‘a’ victory and not necessarily ‘the’ victory.

But at least ROTJ had some powerful themes at its core, even if everything ended a bit too neatly. TROS essentially redoes this ending only much bigger, and louder, but ultimately much less effective imo.

Yes, ROTJ had the themes but for me this film really does them better. Of course it will only ever be a copy, since ROTJ already happened, but here’s what I loved…

No Death Star. While a fleet of planet-smashing Star Destroyers isn’t the greatest idea in the world, it is infinitely better than DS II.

Rey was actually tempted to turn to the Dark Side for a legitimately compelling reason - give up your soul to save your friends. Luke’s temptation was simply “go on, get mad 'cos that’s bad!”.

Rey’s temptation and how she dealt with it actually had a bearing on the battle. Luke’s scenario on DS II was irrelevant to the war.

I liked the movie in general, but the above really made it for me.

TROS copied the whole scenario where Rey/Luke has to watch her friends die, except in ROTJ Luke’s soul was actually on the line, since he had to let his anger get the better of him, such that experiencing the dark side would make him want more. Rey essentially had to choose to let Palpatine possess her, which to me is not half as interesting as willingly becoming an agent of evil yourself. I also feel Kylo’s redemption is not as well developed in this film as Vader’s was in ROTJ. Leia dies, and he suddenly has a change of heart. Vader was shown to have doubts throughout the film, and when the moment came he had to choose between serving his master, and saving the life of his son, which is much more powerful, and compelling in my view. I found Kylo’s potential turn to be much better handled in TLJ, and I feel the last word on his redemption should have been the scene where Rey closes the door on him. So, I don’t agree TROS handled it better in any way. I don’t think it’s terrible either, and if this trilogy can be the OT for a new generation, than that is a good thing, but I also feel an opportunity to do something different with these characters was squandered.

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#1312511
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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DominicCobb said:

There’s reason to believe this isn’t actually the worst reviewed Star Wars movie (ROTJ and TESB at the time were potentially worse), but that doesn’t really matter. These days the only thing people care about is the score. And this one is a rotten icon (even though it’s on the verge of fresh). These days, that’s a turn off for a lot of moviegoers.

It’s like the PT. Except for TCW movie the weakest Star Wars films have generally been viewed as mixed bags. Yet somehow people just want to hear is it good or bad. The interesting thing is, that I found TROS fun and entertaining, but that doesn’t make it a good Star Wars film for me. While I disagree with RJ’s take, at least TLJ had a consistent vision, and a proper pay-off at the end with Luke’s sacrifice, hence it is the better film for me. TROS on the other hand is just so rushed, and sloppy in its execution.

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#1312488
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Shopping Maul said:

I see the supposed rejection of ROTJ’s ‘happily ever after’ as more of a reaction to ROTJ than anything else. People seem to have forgotten what a disappointment that film was, not just to many fans but to folks who were involved in the films. I’m pretty sure that’s why the comics had Luke turn to the Dark Side in the 90s, or why we have a ‘disillusioned Luke in exile’ in TFA with Han having his long overdue death scene. Not everyone left the 1983 Ewok party feeling satisfied. I’m more than happy to see ROTJ as ‘a’ victory and not necessarily ‘the’ victory.

But at least ROTJ had some powerful themes at its core, even if everything ended a bit too neatly. TROS essentially redoes this ending only much bigger, and louder, but ultimately much less effective imo.

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#1312412
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

DrDre said:

ZkinandBonez said:

DrDre said:

What is the difference between the ST and a hypothetical sequel to LOTR, where the ring of power in the original story was a fake, such that that another small hero, a Wobbit from Wobbiton, can go on a similar quest to destroy the ring, and Sauron for real this time?

Well, SW isn’t based on a book or a comic or anything like that, so technically there’s no reason why you can’t change things or add to it retroactively. Also the emperor wasn’t really given much importance until the PT expanded his motives and abilities, so considering all that’s been added to the franchise in the decades since ROTJ him coming back really isn’t that strange.

Also I don’t get the whole “it undermines X-plot-point” argument. TROS doesn’s change any of the character stuff that happened in ROTJ, and going with the Middle-Earth analogy; Sauron was killed twice and just because they had to do it again later it didn’t undermine what Isuldur, Elrond, etc. accomplished a few millennia prior to LOTR.

Lack of originality aside, I don’t see how the ST breaks any in-universe logic.

Ehm, I think TROS and its predecessors undermine pretty much the entirety of ROTJ, except for Vader’s redemption.

Well, that’s really the most important thing, which is why I don’t really mind the ST that much. Though I still wouldn’t say the that First Order, Starkiller Base, etc. “undermines” anything so much as its just lazy writing. It works, it’s just underwhelming and something else would have been much more interesting.

For me it undermines everything, because it undoes ROTJ’s conclusions only to give us a very similar story with a very similar ending. What’s to stop Palpatine from coming back again, or another gigantic fleet from being created from nothing?

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#1312405
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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ZkinandBonez said:

DrDre said:

What is the difference between the ST and a hypothetical sequel to LOTR, where the ring of power in the original story was a fake, such that that another small hero, a Wobbit from Wobbiton, can go on a similar quest to destroy the ring, and Sauron for real this time?

Well, SW isn’t based on a book or a comic or anything like that, so technically there’s no reason why you can’t change things or add to it retroactively. Also the emperor wasn’t really given much importance until the PT expanded his motives and abilities, so considering all that’s been added to the franchise in the decades since ROTJ him coming back really isn’t that strange.

Also I don’t get the whole “it undermines X-plot-point” argument. TROS doesn’s change any of the character stuff that happened in ROTJ, and going with the Middle-Earth analogy; Sauron was killed twice and just because they had to do it again later it didn’t undermine what Isuldur, Elrond, etc. accomplished a few millennia prior to LOTR.

Lack of originality aside, I don’t see how the ST breaks any in-universe logic.

Ehm, I think TROS and its predecessors undermine pretty much the entirety of ROTJ, except for Vader’s redemption.

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#1312393
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Broom Kid said:

That’s what makes this decision to pursue the Emperor as the end goal (especially as it was executed) and to keep Leia in the story as the catalyst for Kylo’s turn so WEIRD. Just on its face that’s such a tiny eyehole to thread on a moving needle. Not saying you couldn’t do it - and maybe there’s a version of this story where they managed to build to that idea well, and maybe they actually tried to make Leia a legitimate character whose disassociated presence was actually felt. But both those decisions are SO deck-stacked against their successful execution I just don’t understand why they got pursued considering they knew how much time they had left to make and finish this thing.

They didn’t HAVE to choose this course of action.

I disagree that any of these movies have rendered any of the other films pointless, if only because the point of Star Wars has never really been in its plotting. The plotting is a means to get to the themes, and even the bad Star Wars movies are trying to say something, thematically, within their own runtimes. Sequels don’t nullify or make pointless their predecessors. But I think what this movie was trying to say for itself was so confused and honestly, kind of infantile - it’s just hard to get a good hold on what it wants to be AS a story.

I don’t know. I think just like The Return of the King, ROTJ was the natural end of the six part story. This just feels like too much of the same. There’s a part of me that wants to relive my childhood, have that feeling again, and there are moments in ROTS where I’m transported back to that time, but it’s fool’s gold. I’m tired of seeing the same thing over, and over, gushing over another pointless cameo, or another reference to the glories of the past. I have some hope, that Star Wars might flourish in a different medium, like tv for a while, but as far as the movies go, I’m done with it all. I’ve had my share of Jedi falling to the dark side, redemptions and what not. The Star Wars movie franchise is running in circles with diminished returns.

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#1312322
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I think the idea of a ST would have worked much better, if they had introduced the idea of a hidden Sith home world from the very start, the root of evil so to speak, an anti-Ahch-To, where Palpatine and Sith from the past are sort of a physical manifestation of the dark side in the known galaxy, that has its roots on this hidden unknown planet, where the spirits of the Sith of old reside, and can still take physical form, a sort of Mordor in the Star Wars galaxy so to speak. The OT would thus be the culmination of Empire vs rebels, and the fall and redemption of Anakin Skywalker arc, while the ST would be a culmination of the Jedi vs Sith war, that ends with the destruction of the Sith home world, and its corrupting influence on the galaxy.

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#1312068
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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Broom Kid said:

I think the “defeatist” attitude you’re seeing is what happens when about two decades of making the best, most salient, most thorough argument doesn’t lead to the results we want. There isn’t any more argument to make, really. They’ve ALL been made, as clearly as possible, for 15 years. Parts of it are so thoroughly consumed and metabolized by an entertainment media more than happy to cover this on our behalf that they became memes, as you said. “Where are the originals” is such a knee-jerk question at this point it still comes up, in 2019 press junkets. It’s usually the first thing inserted into the 2nd or 3rd paragraph on any story about ANY rumored or reported on new release of the original trilogy.

It’s not a question of having all the arrows in our quiver, or having bigger and better ones that we haven’t thought of yet. It’s not a question of ammo at all, really, or of our being able to “convince” the giant corporation of their responsibility to making salable catalog product we want to buy. We’ve made our case, and had our case amplified and further made for us. There’s basically nothing else to do but wait for them to change their minds. It’s completely out of our hands, and we have no control over them or their decision making process. That’s not defeatism. That’s acceptance. They know who we are, they know what we want, they know how many of us there are, they understand the arguments. Abrams isn’t the only person in the industry with a copy of Despecialized. Odds are pretty good it was someone at Lucasfilm who gave them to him. But there’s no argument, no hidden magic bullet just waiting to be discovered and fired that’s going to make Disney do what we want.

The only thing we actually seem to have any control over is how to make for ourselves the thing that we want in the meantime. And this community has taken that control and turned out amazing work that is appreciated by a lot of people. Will Disney finally decide to do the thing we’ve wanted them to do at some point? Maybe. But there really isn’t anything more this community can do to make it more clear that we’d like them to do that, to make a case stronger than the one they already have before them that they’re deciding to ignore.

It’s out of our hands.

Well put!

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#1312049
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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doubleofive said:

I have an article written that goes through every addition & how each one ruins the movies & shows how none of them were actually done for artistic purposes. I hope when it’s published that it will be the spark that burns down the Special Editions, or at least shows that they are so flawed that we deserve to at least have the option to watch the originals.

This to me seems to be completely beside the point. The OOT debate imo is not about which version is better, which is wholly subjective, but which came first, which is a wholly objective. It is about preserving the history of film, and being able to view the films as they were released in their time warts and all.

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#1311450
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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nl0428 said:

I might be late to the party on this, but I looked into the 4K versions of the Original Trilogy on Disney+, and correct me if I’m wrong, but here’s what I think they did here. They took the original Special Edition prints from 1997, remastered them in 4K, and recreated the 2004/2011 changes, as well as the notorious “Maclunkey” addition. The recreated changes look very good, especially removing Anakin’s eyebrows in Return of the Jedi. This new version also looks very good and not as dark and saturated as the DVDs and Blu-rays, but I’m still not a fan of 4K remasters of older films adding teal filters to them.

There is no teal filter. Comparing the colors to 35mm print references, they are pretty faithful to the theatrical colors, particulary the 1997 SE.

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#1311415
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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oojason said:

DrDre said:

oojason said:

RU.08 said:

Thanks goes to whoever edited my above post I didn’t know how to post a spoiler. Here are the photos/screenshots so far:










Nothing in those photos makes me, personally, want to see the film. I’m personally thankful to have seen & read the leaks because at least I know this film isn’t for me instead of buying a ticket and being disappointed.

I thought the leaks were based on trailers, tv spots, other promo content and some material from the books & comics leaking early? (with some obvious gaps filled in along the way)

Was this not the case? And somebody actually had more info to leak other than what appeared in the above promo and book content?

No, as far as I can see pretty much the entire movie was leaked months ago, apart for a number of aspects, that were changed in the reshoots (many of which leaked in the last few weeks). I’ve been following the leaks for a while now, and I’m personally suprised how accurate they are.

Nice one, thanks.

I’m looking forward to seeing the film itself.

Yeah, me too! 😃