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#784010
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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Here are comparisons for two frames for SRV13 versus the simple upscale and SRV12.

Avisynth Spline64Resize vs SRV13:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137737

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137742

SRV12 vs SRV13:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137743

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137744

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#783929
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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Thanks for the script! I will try to get it working. Hopefully things will speed up a bit.

Those screenshots of the SE97 look very nice. Laserdisc Master actually has a thread about upscaling the SE97, but he hasn't updated it for a while. 

In the mean time, I think SRV13 is getting somewhere. I will post some screenshots later today, and hopefully also have a video sample by next week. 

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#783844
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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I personally believe there will be no restoration of the theatrical versions. I think the primary focus will be to release the Star Wars Saga in 3D for the 40th anniversary. The prequels have now been converted to 3D. The original trilogy is next. I believe these conversions will be personally approved by George Lucas. I don't think Lucasfilm will want to "disrespect" the founder of the company. 

I think the best we can hope for is that they will not fight the release of Star Wars Legacy through unofficial channels. They might even accept a copy for their archives, but I believe Lucasfilm will officially keep treating these versions as curiosities, but not as canon. 

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#783810
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Star Wars theatrical versions not coming in 2015
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As some of you may have read  on starwars.com Lucasfilm will release yet another repackaging of the “special editions” before the release of The Force Awakens. The press release specifically states it contains previously released material with no mention of the originals. Please express your outrage (again)!

 

Mod Edit: a link to the article at the Star Wars website announcing the blu ray Steelbook release can be found here:-

https://www.starwars.com/news/the-star-wars-saga-to-be-enshrined-in-limited-edition-blu-ray-steelbooks

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#783682
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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If there is consensus that SRV13 is an improvement over SRV12, I will probably do another pass. Here's a few more comparisons for SRV13:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137550

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137551

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137552

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137553

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137554

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#783643
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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That's what happens with most of these scripts. You gain something most of the time, but sometimes you also may get a slightly worse outcome. The antialiasing for this frame is identical to SRV12 though, since nothing was changed in that part of the script.

I will post a number of other frames later today. 

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#783640
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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In most frames aliasing is significantly reduced compared to SRV10. C3PO's left shoulder is an exception, although aliasing is still much reduced compared to the simple upscale. SRV10 used a haloing filter that destroyed a lot of detail, as was extensively discussed a while ago, therefore it was decided to keep the halos in favour of more detail. 

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#783615
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Star Wars GOUT in HD using super resolution algorithm (* unfinished project *)
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Progress is still slow. However, in the mean time I've also been working on SRV13. I actually have to agree with g-force for a change. There's an ugly slow moving grain in the upscale that is really visible. I've updated my script to get rid of it. Here's a first screenshot comparison:

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/137548

More to follow when I get home from work...

Update: the original comparison was accidentally deleted. 

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#782655
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4K restoration on Star Wars
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team_negative1 said:

The beauty of the digital format is that, you can upgrade your monitor, projector, or TV when you wish, and gain benefit from it, accordingly.

The consumer race is over, only content creators care about increasingly high resolutions, and mastering issues.

Team Negative1

I think these statements are not accurate.

In a sense the digital format replaces the video rental market, which traditionally was very much larger than the video sales market. Many consumers don't want to own movies, at least not if these movies are very expensive. 

You also seem to treat the consumers as one homogeneous group, which is a gross simplification. Not everyone wants to drive a Volkswagen. Some of us prefer the Mercedes and are willing to pay through the nose for it.

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#781796
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The Importance of Tone in Filmmaking
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Yes, it's kind of interesting that George Lucas showed how easy you can go from a special effects cleanup to complete revision. I guess this is also one of the beefs I have with the Special Edition, that despite GL's insistence that he could not complete his vision, in the end the new scenes are mostly revision. The tone of the originals had nothing to do with budget constraints or special effects constraints. GL simply changed his mind over time and then pretended the new inconsistent tone is what he originally intended. He also tried to make the OT more consistent with the prequels, when he should have done the opposite. 

I think the problem stems from the fact that he considers the PT as his pure undiluted vision for Star Wars, whereas the OT has in his eyes been diluted by the involvement of other producers and directors. This is why he has no problems altering what the rest of the world considers classic films into sequels to the prequel trilogy.  

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#781782
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The Importance of Tone in Filmmaking
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It struck me recently that, ever since the Special Editions, Star Wars movies have really been struggling with their tone. In fact George Lucas seems to have become tone deaf. 

In the original 1977 Star Wars we realise Tatooine is a dangerous place, when Luke get's attacked by Sand People. Soon after this his aunt and uncle are brutally murdered. Luke decides to join Obi-Wan on his quest and the adventure is on it's way. Obi-Wan introduces Mos Eisley as a hive of scum and villainy. We meet assassins, smugglers, and just generally dangerous people and aliens. Han Solo is introduced as a shady character. There is a sense of danger when we enter Mos Eisley. 

George Lucas has said while introducing the Special Editions he always wanted Mos Eisley to be this bustling town. He also introduced tonal inconsistency. We now have slapstick humor when we enter Mos Eisley (just after we've seen Luke's aunt's and uncle's burning corpses). We have a "funny" beebing droid when when our heroes are interrogated by the stormtroopers. 

The same thing happens in Jabba's palace in ROTJ. In the 1983 version Jabba's palace is a dangerous place, where people are fed to monsters. From 1997 on this tension is undercut by a "funny" musical interlude with cartoon characters.

Some would argue that the changes are only small and cosmetic in nature, and that it is essentially the same movie with some digital effects added in the mix. I disagree. I would argue that George Lucas deliberately tried to make the tone of the original films more kiddie friendly. The most obvious example being the "Han shot first" scene. In the end he only succeeded in making the film's tone inconsistent, and it ultimately becomes a less great film, a watered down version of Star Wars, with less sharp edges. 

What do you think?