DominicCobb

Jetrell Fo said:

Possessed said:

Iirc that was specifically for the feud between you and frink, and seeing as he’s not participating in this discussion you wouldn’t be talking to him would you? Oh right, but that doesn’t fit in with your narrative that everybody bullies you and the mods don’t help.

Actually, you remember incorrectly, I was standing up for myself when it happened.

That’s not at all what happened.

Frink said this

Also, I hope someday he has a FUCKING STILLBORN CHILD just like I did. I hope he has years of grief and depression like I did. Maybe then he won’t be such a fucking asshole about abortion.

Fuck you, Spaced Ranger, you piece of shit.

And Jay, if you let this stand, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Pretty harsh words, but then again Spaced Ranger was an asshole and Jay rightfully banned him again for his provocative bs.

Note that nothing in his post has anything to do with you whatsoever, but you then said this in response

^^Just what this thread needed, some gas-lighting from the same sensible person that brought us this…

TV’s Frink’s Guide To Sensible Posting (Or: How Not To Be A Target)

Don’t Use Personal Issues As An Excuse For Poor Behavior
… antagonize away, that’ll sure help him stay calm.

😦

We lost our first before our daughter was born and I never use it as a way to insult others. It’s shameful behavior.

which I don’t think I’d classify as “standing up for yourself” at all.

Frink then said this

Well, since Jay said the next one of us to poke the other gets a timeout, I’m simply going to just wait and see if he meant it.

And then Jay responded with this

I did. Fo, you’re out for a while.

So let the record state that you picked a fight that you ought not have, and you got put into timeout for it. I’m obviously no mod, so just take this as advice, but if you don’t want to get into timeout again, I wouldn’t start bringing up old fights that got you into trouble in the first place.

JEDIT: Possessed beat me to the punch

This is great -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGhZfZ9BRe0

Okay guys, what are we talking about here, video poster? Or posters for home video releases?

TV’s Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Lord Haseo said:

No CGI though…please.

You think there’s a chance for a traditionally animated SW show in this day and age?

Therein lies the true reason Disney sucks.

Hmmm, guess you’ve never seen a Pixar film.

Silly Frink, didn’t you know that any and all CGI animated films are shit?

Jackpumpkinhead said:

Funcha said:

Possessed said:

Funcha said:

darth_ender said:

Do you happen to know a guy by the name of jedimasterobiwan?

I think they’re likely as separate as Chancellor Palpatine and Darth Sidious.

I highly doubt that, I mean it’s possible bit i don’t see the motivation.

I think the motivation would be that since he’s been scolded more than a few times, he probably set up a second account in case his first gets banned. The sentence structure and language used is just too similar between the two posters. Of course, it could also be a troll trying to “emulate” Obi-Wanspeak but I’ve got a sneaking suspicion that’s not the case.

I think that is unlikely. sentence structure (or the lack there of) is not really an indicator. I think it’s just common for 7 year olds to not have any web etiquette and a small vocabulary.

FTFY

Alderaan, serious question, are you high?

Alderaan said:

The quickest way to rile someone up is to criticize their drug use. Even the peaceful pot heads would watch the world burn if you would just sell them a few ounces at a good deal.

Meanwhile, the drug crisis in this country continues. People like Frink probably don’t pay attention to it, because the life of a rich drug addict in LA or NY is very different from the life of a poor drug addict in middle U.S.A.

Are you calling Frink a rich drug addict in LA or NY?

As for the rest… I don’t even know where to start.

Alderaan said:

TV’s Frink said:

Alderaan said:

Hey OP is this you?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/east-liverpool-ohio-heroin-photo-police-department-releases-disturbing-photos-of-suspects-in-car-with-child/

Why are you even in this thread?

To be the only adult in the room, obviously.

Wow

I was debating picking up the blu-ray today or waiting for a double dip (even though I’m not sure if it’s likely). Then my bother texted me letting me know he got it and put it on our shared iTunes account, so I think that pretty much decides that.

Hal 9000 said:

Here are NeverarGreat’s two R2 scenes with proper audio and fully formatted. The only thing missing is a few sound effects for BB8 (head turns and rolling away). Anyone have any isolated FX already I could use?

https://vimeo.com/211322567

https://vimeo.com/211322617

Password: fanedit

I like it.

Mocata said:

Extra bonus question - https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/20/40/7a/20407a3da48210ce80ccbdd2e18e5cdf.jpg

Does anyone remember this kind of thing? I didn’t seem that weird at the time. What were they smoking…

Oh god I had that toy…

suspiciouscoffee said:

i should kill myself so that maybe God might spare my soul if my final act was to do his will and execute the degenerate faggot.

alas, i am too cowardly to go through with that, only pointless ramble about it to strangers on the internet.

Please don’t be thinking this way, bud. It’s not healthy.

Jetrell Fo said:

darth_ender said:

Warbler’s instigation is never intentional. That much is obvious. You are an instigator as well, but I don’t think you do it deliberately either. Maybe this common problem could give you a little more patience for others like Warbler.

But, as soon as I try to make a valid point, we’re back to “oh you just wanna be the victim”. It gets old and fucking sickening. I wasn’t nasty when I made the comparison and I didn’t put any names in the post. Am I denied from making what I feel are valid points because some members don’t like me? It never fails that at least every few days, at least one person brings it up, or says something else to fuel the fire.

It’s like some don’t like me when I behave because then they can’t talk shit about it.

😦

I wonder why people might say you play the victim…

Jetrell Fo said:

darth_ender said:

Warbler’s instigation is never intentional. That much is obvious. You are an instigator as well, but I don’t think you do it deliberately either. Maybe this common problem could give you a little more patience for others like Warbler.

But, as soon as I try to make a valid point, we’re back to “oh you just wanna be the victim”. It gets old and fucking sickening. I wasn’t nasty when I made the comparison and I didn’t put any names in the post. Am I denied from making what I feel are valid points because some members don’t like me? It never fails that at least every few days, at least one person brings it up, or says something else to fuel the fire.

It’s like some don’t like me when I behave because then they can’t talk shit about it.

😦

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

DominicCobb said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Maybe, but shouldn’t the cure be there for those that want it?

This gets into the weeds pretty fast. The problem is not necessarily the “cure” per se. It’s the subtext that anyone who doesn’t opt for it is being unreasonable. It’s the issues that arise when people stop spending money on ADA compliance when you could just take a pill for it. It’s the minority group becoming even more invisible as their numbers diminish. It’s the loss of cultural connections between family members.

This are problems that have to be dealt with, but I can’t see this problems are justification for denying “the cure” to those that want it.

And of course it’s treating a disability as if it were a disease.

How about we treat a disability as a disability instead of a person’s race, or religion?

That’s not going to fly with this group. Race, religion, sexual orientation, and disabilities are all in a bucket called “identities”. Yes, they’re different from each other, but the basic concept of curing an identity is problematic (and people seriously also try to cure sexual orientation like a disease, and disability advocates see that as a parallel). Curing a disease, no problem. Curing an identity, them’s fighting words.

I completely appreciate those who view their disabilities as identities. Much power to them.

But I’m not sure about the idea that every “problem” is an identity and thus shouldn’t be “cured.” Should people with poor vision not wear contacts (or glasses for that matter)? Should people with bad teeth not get braces?

How about this, what about transgendered people. One could argue their transgender is part of their identity. So should they be denied a sex change operation? You could argue such is a “cure”, just like allowing a deaf person to hear.

Transgender is an identity. Pressuring them to have a sex change, or shaming them into having a sex change, or withholding some other sort of accommodation just because they won’t have a sex change like a reasonable person, those would all be comparable to what we’re discussing. Someone choosing to have a sex change and then doing it? Not a problem.

I think the idea he’s getting at is if you’re a trans female, that’s what you are, and you can have an operation to “fix” the “problem” that you were born with a penis, but that won’t take away your identity as a trans female. So you can be deaf and get hearing implants and that will “fix” the “problem” that you can’t hear, but it won’t take away your identity as a deaf person.

As for understanding and not pressuring people to make a change if they don’t want to (or not if they do), that’s obviously something that a lot people in this world need to work on.

CatBus said:

DominicCobb said:

However, it’s hard to imagine everyone with a disability thinks the same way. What about the deaf people who want to hear? Should “cures” be shunned by the larger community even when some would welcome them?

At least WRT cochlear implants, many deaf people do in fact opt for the implants, and (at least as far as I know–I’m not Mr. Cochlear Implant) the cures are not shunned by the larger community at all. A large part (maybe most) of the deaf community treats them like poison, but almost all of the hearing community treats them like “We fixed your deafness. You’re welcome.” And later “We have no idea why you’re being so unreasonable, just get the implants and stop asking us for interpreters. It’s not necessary anymore.”

Ah I see the issue.

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

Maybe, but shouldn’t the cure be there for those that want it?

This gets into the weeds pretty fast. The problem is not necessarily the “cure” per se. It’s the subtext that anyone who doesn’t opt for it is being unreasonable. It’s the issues that arise when people stop spending money on ADA compliance when you could just take a pill for it. It’s the minority group becoming even more invisible as their numbers diminish. It’s the loss of cultural connections between family members.

This are problems that have to be dealt with, but I can’t see this problems are justification for denying “the cure” to those that want it.

And of course it’s treating a disability as if it were a disease.

How about we treat a disability as a disability instead of a person’s race, or religion?

That’s not going to fly with this group. Race, religion, sexual orientation, and disabilities are all in a bucket called “identities”. Yes, they’re different from each other, but the basic concept of curing an identity is problematic (and people seriously also try to cure sexual orientation like a disease, and disability advocates see that as a parallel). Curing a disease, no problem. Curing an identity, them’s fighting words.

I completely appreciate those who view their disabilities as identities. Much power to them.

But I’m not sure about the idea that every “problem” is an identity and thus shouldn’t be “cured.” Should people with poor vision not wear contacts (or glasses for that matter)? Should people with bad teeth not get braces?

CatBus said:

Warbler said:

moviefreakedmind said:

Jetrell Fo said:

Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. Fuck everybody.

😉

Well, autism isn’t something that you can “cure” in somebody. Now, if it were focused on determining specific causes and means of prevention, that would be different.

How do you know we won’t be able to cure in the future(maybe a couple hundred years from now)?

Well, to answer the question seriously and completely requires a bit of a historical disability rights primer. You don’t have to agree with this 100%, I’m just presenting this as background information.

The easiest gateway to understanding is to consider the deaf community, cochlear implants, etc. Deafness can be caused by maladies, but it’s not a malady in itself. Some proportion of the human population has always been deaf, and the deaf community considers itself simply part of the natural variation in humanity–not that much different than variations in height–there’s a bell curve, but not sitting at the average is simply not a problem that needs addressing. That’s not to say that a society designed for the middle of the bell curve doesn’t present difficulties for them, but those difficulties are the things to be managed, not the people. i.e. tall/short people may have a hard time finding clothes, being at the right height for photo booths, etc, but those are problems that can be managed. Similarly, deaf people can run into issues talking to people who don’t understand their language. The solutions in those scenarios would be teaching more people to sign, using interpreters, or–technology FTW–texting.

But then there’s things like cochlear implants. They don’t remove the barriers for deafness, they remove the deafness, which is a different thing entirely. You don’t have to know very much about deaf culture to see how this presents a real threat to deaf identity. There’s at least one documentary about the bitter and divisive struggle that has raged over cochlear implants. To deaf community activists, it’s very much like someone invented a cure for blackness, and sells it with the promise of how much easier it will be when you can hail cabs, get help from the police, and make it through in-person job interviews. All of these promises quite possibly being true, but missing the larger point.

Autism is in a similar place. It’s not neurotypical, but it’s within the natural variation of humanity. Many of the problems are simply with interacting with the society at large, and can be addressed individually without changing the identity of the person.

Anyway, that’s the background on that. Again, there’s a whole lot of wild twists and cul-de-sacs I avoided to keep things as simple as possible. So basically, “curing autism” is not something some people would want to pursue even if it were scientifically feasible, but “things that make being autistic in a non-autistic world a lot easier” are.

Great post, not something we think about much.

Obviously great lengths should be taken to prevent stigmatizing people and we should be proud of the people they are, not the ones they “should” be. However, it’s hard to imagine everyone with a disability thinks the same way. What about the deaf people who want to hear? Should “cures” be shunned by the larger community even when some would welcome them?

Of course, going back to autism, there’s nothing as simple as a “cure” there. These things being compared are all very different. Even though there are similarities, the differences are such that they can’t all be necessarily treated in the same manner. It’s a complicated topic on a number of levels.

TV’s Frink said:

DominicCobb said:

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/891104

He probably changed his mind after watching a video review of the series.

Wasn’t aware the Truth ™ could be changed.

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/891104

joefavs said:

DominicCobb said:

What store is this???

That’s Entertainment in Worcester. Really awesome place, they’ve got tons of Star Wars stuff from every era.

Nice, good to know.

joefavs said:

Just snagged a copy of the ANH GOUT for $6 at a record/comic store. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it for less than $35 before now. Also, five Bantam-era novels for a buck each. It was a cool day.

What store is this???

TV’s Frink said:

Anyone like Master of None? I’ve watched the first few episodes, and in some ways it’s a fairly formulaic sitcom (for a present day non-laugh-track sitcom). But Aziz has a great spark, and his Indian background gives him some new ground to mine. His parents are great, for instance.

(And yeah I know I’m way behind the times on it)

Yeah you’re waaay late but it is great. Best part is it gets even better in the later episodes.

Can’t wait for the second season.

flametitan said:

Today is Trans Day of Visibility (damn, I never realized how many I’s are in that word).

Hello, I exist. Is that Visible enough?

Right on sister

Sir Ridley said:

DominicCobb said:

If those shots were flipped, it wasn’t an accident. If they weren’t, why change them?

To be fair the entire movie was made as it is on purpose, yet here we are. We’re just making a second judgement, and might find that in our opinion some shots work better if flipped back.

Of course you guys are allowed to change whatever you want, that’s the beauty of fan edits. I try not to pipe in about changes I disagree with, as there’s no point, but I just wonder if you’re going at this one from the wrong perspective. If you’re unflipping shots to fix continuity, I think you should just keep in mind that when the editors flipped them they would have known that they were upsetting continuity, but were purposefully doing it in favor of something more important (like screen direction). If you think it’s better the other way, there’s nothing wrong with that, but I just mean you should consider why it might be like that in the first place.

CatBus said:

CatBus said:

Wow. Okay. Moving right along.

So there’s a saying (I’m too young to know if it’s true) that in 1969, Nixon voters could be found everywhere. In 1974, they were getting scarce. And by 1976, you couldn’t find anyone who’d voted for Nixon.

HA Goodman started an interesting trend. At first, he was just a fairly transparent Republican operative, right? This libertarian Republican who decided to jump right into supporting a Socialist, but rarely actually says very much about his newfound love for those lefty policies–instead he pretty much does nothing but attack the Democratic Party. But “from the left”, get it? Not from the right. Maybe he’ll convince an unsuspecting reporter or voter to think he’s not a Republican, and try to initiate a narrative about the chasm between Bernie and Hillary. You’ve got Goodman’s followers booing Bernie at the convention to, uh, show their love for Bernie (or something, I’m sure it made sense to them). That made some headlines, and it kinda worked for a while, successfully drawing the media’s focus away from the actual lack of any serious split between Bernie and Hillary.

But then something odd happened after the election. He (and others) kept going, he’s still doing his Bernie supporter schtick. And this is what’s interesting about it. Using Goodman’s precedent, Trump voters can pretend to be Bernie supporters, as a means of hiding their shame. Now I’m sure most Trump voters aren’t ashamed, but already there’s this small sad tribe of Trump voters who can’t come out and be honest with the world. Are they, like the disappearing Nixon voters, the wave of the future?

Looks like these ashamed Trump voters pretending to be Bernie supporters have a new target. Surprise! It’s Bernie! Who could have seen that coming?

How dare Bernie try to stop corruption in Washington!