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- #1394804
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- The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBS6bFc4_w9CAFUXbwT88Ew/featured
Anakin looking just like Gollum here.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBS6bFc4_w9CAFUXbwT88Ew/featured
Anakin looking just like Gollum here.
No. At least for me, I’m working on the computer everyday right now, so after I get done with work, the last thing I want to do is sit on the computer and edit some more. 😂
😂
I mean same, but something about the fact that we’re coming up on a full year of this disappointment… felt like it was time.
Would you believe me if I told you that I just last night I finally implemented my new Rogue Leader inspired non-Palpatine reveal? For the first time since I started editing I feel like this is something that works. Just need to touch up a couple things now before my workprint is a reality.
Oh yeah? I can’t wait to see it, especially if you’re feeling good about it!
It’s very similar to yours, with a touch of something that I thought I was gonna need as a crutch for an alternate solution but actually feel like works pretty well with this new version as well. I’ll keep it vague for suspense.
Would you believe me if I told you that I just last night I finally implemented my new Rogue Leader inspired non-Palpatine reveal? For the first time since I started editing I feel like this is something that works. Just need to touch up a couple things now before my workprint is a reality.
Also Rik, I don’t know what the “Official” answer is via comics, books, etc … but I am sure Kennedy’s response of “The Force is Female” is probably the answer. ;P
What?
Lol, I’m making fun of the whole “force is female” push some years back. Coming up with an explanation of something that doesn’t make sense. That’s all.
Can we not start with stupid shit like this? There’s a reason I only read the fan edit forums these days.
Ok guys, here’s the final part of the DS fight : https://vimeo.com/492230855
pw : fanedit
I’ll try to improve the close-up shots of the saber in part 2 tomorrow.
And unfortunately, I don’t have the original material of the movie on my computer, that’s why I’m working with Hal’s version. But that shouldn’t be a problem, I can provide the After Effect files of each shot, then replacing the video with the original shot of the movie would be the only work needed.
This is fantastic, keep up the good work.
Because I might as well keep being the bearer of constructive notes, one thing I noticed in this clip is you often see sparks floating away from Kylo Ren’s saber. I wouldn’t say it’s crucial, but one thing that would sell the effect would be some similar, well placed sparks shots for Rey’s saber (certainly doesn’t need to be every shot). You’ll notice shots like the one at :21 here and the one after, there’s some sparks just while he’s walking and while the saber is being held by the force.
It’s a different effect than what you’re doing, so I don’t know if it’s in your wheelhouse, or something someone else could pick up, but it’s worth making note of and considering.
Snooker did the first version of the Naboo shot and skenera worked on that to get it to what’s in the edit now.
I’ll check in with skenera then, see if it’s possible.
The other thing I’m curious about is the shot of Ben on the Death Star that’s been slowed down. I have a few moments in my own edit where I utilize Premiere’s built-in frame interpolation effect for slow-mo - but you can only push it so far, and there’s a couple of shots where I’ve pushed it too far, but I also kinda need to.
Credit has been given to Octoroxx and Luka Frik… wondering who here has the technology that I can poke for a request.
I used the “Optical Flow” effect in Premiere.
Really? I had tried that exact technique on that shot and didn’t like the results but yours looks great. But then again this was a few months ago so maybe I’m misremembering something.
Snooker did the first version of the Naboo shot and skenera worked on that to get it to what’s in the edit now.
I’ll check in with skenera then, see if it’s possible.
The other thing I’m curious about is the shot of Ben on the Death Star that’s been slowed down. I have a few moments in my own edit where I utilize Premiere’s built-in frame interpolation effect for slow-mo - but you can only push it so far, and there’s a couple of shots where I’ve pushed it too far, but I also kinda need to.
Credit has been given to Octoroxx and Luka Frik… wondering who here has the technology that I can poke for a request.
OK, thank you all for your advices, indeed I’ll try to see tomorrow if I can make the edges of the effect a bit smoother. Here’s an improved version of part 2 :
And here’s a first draft for part 3 :
pw : fanedit
Looking good, like I said size and shape and all that looks spot on. But yes if you could work on smoothing it then it’d be perfect, you can still see some of that crunch in the close up shots (not as much an issue when further away or in fast motion - finding the right balance shot to shot will be key).
The crackling looks much better for the first half now! But I think it’s overdone towards the end- especially in the close-up shots at 0:34 and 0:37, you can visibly see chunks of the crackle layer (not sure what to call it) coming off and it looks fake. I appreciate how hard you’re working on this!
I think the size and amount is right, but yes it’s staring too look a little crunchy. I’d say it’s just a bit too sharp, I’m not sure what program or effect is being used but if it’s possible to feather it a bit, make the edges a little smoother less harsh, that’d be ideal (once again look to Kylo’s blade for visual reference).
Could the crackling effect be added to the original source instead of the Ascendant source? If someone wanted to make an edit with the original coloring I feel like it would be harder to take these clips and revert them to the original colors than the other way around.
Yes this is important too, not just for the color but also generational loss.
Can I ask who did the excellent Naboo shot? Would love to get one that’s about twice the length if possible.
Yeah, I would think trying to roughly match Kylo’s crackle would be the aim. In most shots in works but in the shots where you can see it closer it’s too subtle.
Hey that looks pretty good to me!
Huh that works pretty well too, don’t know why I never thought of that.
As for the second, mine is pretty similar except I removed the “blood” line and kept Palpatine’s explanation there.
Oh I’m sorry. I thought they were the same person.
Wait I’m confused, people saying Fated-Dualist is a oojason sock? I thought jason had just changed his screen name. Can someone clear this up?
I wonder if there’s a TROS care package of some sort, similar to what you did with the PT?
I hope we’ll get to see your edit soon, Dominic! Take care and stay safe out there.
Me too. I have a couple weeks off work at the end of the month and I’m hoping to put some time in. Attempting a move at the same time though (plus the holidays in general) so we’ll see.
Hey, Dominic. Whenever your edit comes out, I do have a question regarding the scenes where the mentioning of Rey and Palpatine’s becomes apparent, such as when Kylo Ren reveals it or when Rey meets him on Exegol. How will those play out with lines removals and such?
The Kylo reveal has been a real bugbear for me and the thing that ultimately stalled the edit back in the summer because I wasn’t happy with my solution. But after seeing RogueLeader’s take in the “Rey Nobody” thread, I have an idea for something very similar that should work. As for the Palpatine scene, it’s pretty straightforward, just removing mention of their relation.
Most impressive indeed, excited to see it.
How far did kewlfish get exactly? Might be less daunting for someone to take up the mantle if they could see there aren’t many outstanding scenes.
Re: the job I started… very time consuming. Will try to get back to work on this soon.
Even as I type, I had to skim through the film to remind myself that the Kylo-Palpatine conversation had been moved from heading to Endor. And it introduced a continuity error I don’t believe anyone picked up on until you did.
Perhaps the simplest fix would be to replace or remove the line, “I know where she’s going.”
But that’s still true, isn’t it? Now, it refers to the Knights of Ren tracking them through hyperspace. I actually thought that was a really clever way to repurpose that line.
Yeah, this came up before. I had thought it was an issue, but it makes sense if you think about it. “I know where she’s going” = “The Knights are following her.” The very next scene we see the Knights are there in the asteroid belt with them.
He actually is saying, “You won’t just have power, you’ll have his power.” I’ll try to make it sound clearer in a future version, but I also think our ears are sort of biased because we know what the line is already, and it is already a small line adjustment.
Interesting, I did hear the “won’t” and was looking for “you’ll” but didn’t hear it.
Don’t know how you accomplished the “you’ll” but you could try to take the “'ll” from “we’ll kill him.”
Yes, “you have his power” is tricky, I think if possible I’d like to change it to “you’ll have his power.” Foreshadowing the transference but also not necessarily giving it away, since in this context it could also mean his power as in his throne and his command.
Keep in mind some of that shot appears in the movie already, and the last few seconds of it the watermark is over just the sky.
So instead of doing more important things, I wanted to take a crack at playing around with the Hangar Scene for a Rey Nobody edit. I like the potential of a “Rey killed her parents” version, but I wanted to try something more straightforward. It’s not as compelling, perhaps, but it is still less offensive than Rey Palpatine.
In this version of the film, I would remove any reference to Rey recognizing Ochi’s ship, or Rey seeing her parents in any vision. I may try to tackle the Force bond duel at some point, but in this version I would probably shorten the scene, and replace a lot of the dialogue with more generic taunts about Kylo sensing the darkness within her.
This version of the hangar scene just has Kylo Ren confirm Rey’s fears about the vision she saw earlier in the film. Rey’s reaction to info she already has might seem a little dramatic, but in my mind, I interpret Rey’s reaction as her starting to feel that her future is fated and inescapable. But a part of her is still in denial, convincing herself that Kylo Ren is lying in order to manipulate her.
Here’s a rough test for their hangar interaction: https://vimeo.com/447063673
And here’s an alternate line read for Kylo near the end of the scene, keeping closer to the original line: https://vimeo.com/447069546
Oof! Where have I been! Good stuff. Similar to what I’ve been working on (I think I shared some of it? with you? it’s been awhile) but this is a much cleaner way of saying what I want him to say!
Man this might give me the boost to finally push my edit over the finish line actually, this scene really kinda got to me and depressed me a bit because I felt like I couldn’t crack it.