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- Until the end of the World: Director's Cut (* unfinished project *)
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- #212150
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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I'm really liking the sound of it now. Rip the audio and video into Womble. Replace all audio and video sections with DVD clips that match, and those that don't replace with ABC clips and upmixed audio.
But then again if it's 4x3 that means either the extra bits must be cropped to look 16x9 or the pan and scan DVD needs to be used. I don't particularly like either answer there. I suppose maybe 4-side black borders on the ABC clips would be ok, but that'd be a small picture.
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- #211959
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- Until the end of the World: Director's Cut (* unfinished project *)
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As far as the different versions go, for some reason I was of the mistaken assumption that the U.S/German versions were a cut down Director's Cut that he later recreated/update as the Trilogy. Anywhere, here's the full low down (From Wikipedia):
Wenders apparently foresaw his struggles with acceptable running time and kept the original elements rather than surrendering them to distributors. After the film's theatrical release, Wenders worked with internegative copies and, with the cooperation of Sam Neill, who recorded additional narration, completed a 280-minute version of the film. The 280-minute cut, which Wenders regards as the definitive and complete version of Until the End of the World, unfolds as a trilogy and is presented in three parts (the opening titles appear three times). This version of the film has been screened publicly numerous times, including U.S. screenings at the University of Washington in 1996, at least two presentations at the Egyptian Theatre in Los Angeles, by way of American Cinematheque, once at the DGA Theater in New York City, by way of the American Museum of the Moving Image, once at the USA Film Festival in Dallas, Texas, once at the Walter Reade Theater, by way of the Film Society of Lincoln Center, in New York City, and once at the Cinema Arts Centre in Huntington, NY. Wenders has been present at all of these screenings but the USA Film Festival screening and the Walter Reade Theater screening.
The 158-minute theatrical cut of Until the End of the World was released on VHS and laserdisc (widescreen) in the United States. In addition, a 179-minute "European cut" was released on laserdisc (letterboxed) in Japan, accompanied by a 58-minute featurette shot in Tokyo entitled Dream Island by Sean Naughton, who had worked with Wenders on the HD sequences in Until the End of the World. The 280-minute "trilogy" version of Until the End of the World made its first DVD appearance in 2004, with an Italian 4-disc edition featuring outtakes, bloopers, trailers, and interviews with Wenders. In 2005, a 3-disc DVD edition was released in Germany. Both editions feature new digital transfers that were personally supervised by Wenders.
Anchor Bay Entertainment had once announced that it would be releasing the director's cut of Until the End of the World in North America, but has since switched hands and abandoned interest in Wenders' catalogue. Currently, there are no known plans to release the film on DVD in North America.
The 158-minute theatrical cut of Until the End of the World was released on VHS and laserdisc (widescreen) in the United States. In addition, a 179-minute "European cut" was released on laserdisc (letterboxed) in Japan, accompanied by a 58-minute featurette shot in Tokyo entitled Dream Island by Sean Naughton, who had worked with Wenders on the HD sequences in Until the End of the World. The 280-minute "trilogy" version of Until the End of the World made its first DVD appearance in 2004, with an Italian 4-disc edition featuring outtakes, bloopers, trailers, and interviews with Wenders. In 2005, a 3-disc DVD edition was released in Germany. Both editions feature new digital transfers that were personally supervised by Wenders.
Anchor Bay Entertainment had once announced that it would be releasing the director's cut of Until the End of the World in North America, but has since switched hands and abandoned interest in Wenders' catalogue. Currently, there are no known plans to release the film on DVD in North America.
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- #211950
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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Hmm, so now I'm thinking a re-edit synced with the DVD 5.1 audio track and the extra bits upmixed... must.... not.... start... new... project.
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- #211947
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- .-The Matrix Hacked-..:Completed:.
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- #211819
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- .-The Matrix Hacked-..:Completed:.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211819/action/topic#211819
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This way we don't run into problems with everybody remailing if a bug turns up. It'll be a little slower going but I think it's better this way (especially since I'm a real hack at this).
f1209: You are already on the top 5 list. The discs were mailed Wednesday, expect yours early next week.
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- #211818
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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So I'm guessing this is a PDTV capture. Do we have full 5.1 sound? Did you edit in the missing parts into a DVD rip or is it 100% capture with only menus from the DVD?
Edit: Anyone notice that Rikter sort of hijacked this thread?
If you don't put the Dual Layer on MySpleen, what will be the best method for getting a copy?
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- #211643
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- ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211643/action/topic#211643
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- #211640
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- Until the end of the World: Director's Cut (* unfinished project *)
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I believe the extended DVDs lack english subs for foreign languages.
Btw, I think that technically there is a difference between the Director's Cut and the Trilogy.
The DC being the original full length single film and the Trilogy being a re-cut with a different run time and split into 3 films.
Which version of the extended film will you be doing? Are you proposing reconstructing the Director's Cut?
Btw, I've seen the deleted scenes from the DVD, they're kind of crappy. Mostly the scrap film from before and after they yelled cut. Some people mumbling to each other, and the occasionally laugh ruining a take.
Edit: Has the U.S short version ever been on DVD or will this be reconstructed from the Trilogy footage?
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- #211546
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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My guess is your only way to get the Centropy discs is from someone being nice and sharing. I wish I could help.
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- #211534
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- <em><strong>HARRY POTTER: Wizard People, Dear Readers - DVD Project</strong></em> (Released)
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I sure don't want to go d/l a couple dual layer dvds on my slow connection, burn (not so cheap) DL-DVDs of it only to find a second edition come out.
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- #211525
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- Until the end of the World: Director's Cut (* unfinished project *)
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It's really high quality, but there are 2 drawbacks. First there is a lot of music in the film and with the 4% PAL speed up, it just sounds funny to me.
Second is that the english subtitles (at least on the net) are crap. Whoever put them together did not speak english (maybe at all).
So what I did for myself was a framerate slow down, recoding the audio (this fixes the 4% speed up). I also rewrote the sub files, using a mix of the theatrical subs and translating additional dialog myself.
I actually built a set of NTSC DVDs off this for a friend of mine who is a huge Wim Wenders fan, and they look damn good.
I wouldn't object to a full NTSC version direct from DVD if someone were to do it.
If anyone wants some great information on this movie and why there will NEVER be a U.S. extended version read here:
http://theacf.com/endworld/
Or if you have a R2 PAL player, just buy the movies here: http://www.scarecrow.com/sales/item.asp?ProductID=002566 It's a U.S. company and they're listing $35.
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- #211485
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- STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211485/action/topic#211485
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- #211484
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/211484/action/topic#211484
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- #211350
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- ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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Why in the world would you really do that?
If you're working with the original film elements, wouldn't you strike new negatives from the rest of the non-fx clips as well? If you didn't you'd see differences in quality from aging of the negative versus the newly added clips struck from the original elements.
If that were really really true, we have to again ask the question: Where did the Empire of Dreams OUT clips come from if they were cut out and disposed of?
And really, you don't NEED a continuous master negative for DVD. You could reuse all the '04 DVD material and just (digitally) insert the unaltered clips that had to be built and scanned by a computer before overlaying CG material.
On the other hand, there must be some interpositives and/or 1st gen prints in existence somewhere that could be digitally scanned in HD for high quality DVD and other, future releases. This is what would happen if the project were handed over to someone like Criterion.
That's exactly what theDigitalBits.com said today.
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- #211327
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- ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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In a really nice editorial rant on thedigitalbits.com today, they repeated something I had heard before: "creating the new 1997 Special Edition versions of the films... [GL] cut the original negatives. So the original negatives of the theatrical versions no longer exist."
I remember when the '97 edition was coming I saw a cool hype-documentary. They explained that they went back to all of the original composite elements that GL was smart enough to preserve. After cleaning the elements, all of the fx shots were recomposited digitally to remove artifacts, transparencies, etc that resulted from the original dated analog methods.
Now I'm no film genius, but doesn't that mean they had to build a new master negative for the S.E.? They couldn't go back to the master negative, recut it, and use a computer to print new CG characters onto the film. They had to use the original ELEMENTS and recreate the scenes from scratch re-layering ships and stuff onto background plates. Someone had to cut by cut re-edit this movie and make a new master negative.
So which is it? Why would you re-cut the master negative if it's not even involved in the process? For that matter, if all of the original elements are now clean and ready to be digitally recomposited, why can't they use them and rebuilt the OOT again (digitally) without the "upgrades"?
Maybe I'm stupid, but it sounds like they didn't get their stories straight. Can someone help me understand this?
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- #211162
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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What ARE you doing? :-)
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- #210844
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210844/action/topic#210844
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- #210797
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- ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210797/action/topic#210797
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Anyway, that thud you hear is fan reception to the official release, but just remember one thing:
DVDs are all about the upsell-re-release. Turn out fast crap and then sell it again later anamorphic or with DTS or other added content (trailers).
I wouldn't worry about the upcoming discs (I also wouldn't buy them either).
Oh well. I'm glad I like my transfer (which for the record has more lines of resolution than the DVD will have). (Grumble grumble letterbox crap.)
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- #210791
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- .: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210791/action/topic#210791
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So unless LucasFilms does some serious clean up and corrections on it, it's likely going to be much worse than the X0 project.
Which frankly if they can't be bothered with anamorphic, I don't think they have anybody doing frame by frame flaw removal.
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- #210197
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- 'Backstroke of the West' with retail DVD quality : FINISHED & RELEASED
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/210197/action/topic#210197
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- #209641
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- .-The Matrix Hacked-..:Completed:.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209641/action/topic#209641
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Matrix 2 won't be re-upped since there is no substantial difference except some quality tweaks which won't be so noticable on a 1 CD sized Xvid.
Matrix 3's v1.5 will replace the v1.0 as soon as I get word from the guinea pig/top-o'-the-PIF-tree people that things are good to go.
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- #209518
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- .-The Matrix Hacked-..:Completed:.
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209518/action/topic#209518
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Anyway, discs are burned.
Matrix 2 is being called v1.01. The only real difference from the xvid release is that all edits are now done with Avisynth instead of Womble. It makes for much cleaner transitions and better quality.
Matrix 3 I'm calling v1.5, but that's just a number. I can no longer remember all the changes that have been made since the Xvid release. Off the top of my head:
The opening voice over is removed.
All transitions are now avisynth instead of womble.
Many audio crossfades have been tweaked.
Neo's jack in is extended/flipped with an added scene of him looking for the Oracle who is now missing (with Voice over).
Continuity has been greatly improved.
Several clips have been added/extended (we're talking seconds worth really).
What wasn't done that might have been:
Zion Rave wasn't cut. Sitting through it, I didn't mind the length. In fact after all the action is was a nice change of pace before getting back into the action again.
No line of dialog was added before Smith/Bane is killed. Voice overs from other sources usually sound like crap. Smith thundering on pointlessly seemed like a better alternative.
A better impression of Neo being returned from Zion wasn't possible. No footage of sufficient length exists that could be used/reused.
Um, that's all I can think of. It's a bit smoother, but the beginning is still kind of rough but much much better. I just hit the limitation of the source material.
I wish the ending was bigger, it's not, but it is where I wanted the story to go. I hope you all enjoy.
These edits can be summed up as:
Matrix 2 was my attempt to fix the philosophy and pace.
Matrix 3 was to fix the philosophy and tone and to rewrite the ending (even at the occasional expense of pace).
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- #209513
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- Yet another Matrix edit: Matrix Rebooted (* unfinished project *)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/209513/action/topic#209513
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I remember reading a review of Enter The Matrix. The summary was that it made a better movie than a game and Matrix 2 would have made a better game than a movie.
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- #208782
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- Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/208782/action/topic#208782
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Edit:
ABC Family to Present Cable Premieres of Hit Feature Films in Deal with Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution
March 20, 2006
ABC Family has acquired a slate of movies that will make their cable premieres on the network in a deal with Warner Bros. Domestic Cable Distribution (WBDCD)... The deal also includes the basic cable premiere of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban in 2006 and Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire in 2008, both for exclusive five year windows. The ABC Television Network will have the broadcast television premiere of the Harry Potter movies.
http://www.timewarner.com/corp/newsroom/pr/0,20812,1174797,00.html