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Post
#215782
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215782/action/topic#215782
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Yup it looks like HD-DVD (as well as BluRay) will use regional codes like DVDs.

I think we are really looking at Beta vs VHS all over again.
Not just that you have 2 formats, but Beta was always considered superior, it just didn't win.

HD-DVD will win as well. The tech in BluRay is better, but it's also a much more expensive hardware and software solution. (It's also cheaper for the software manufacturers (using existing equipment), so smaller houses (including porn) are more likely to turn out HD-DVD than BluRay).
Most people will never notice a audio/video quality difference so they'll buy for price.
If more people can afford HD-DVD, more people will buy it, more adopters = winner. Sad but true.

Back on subject, if you want a best of both worlds Star Wars, get Citizen's Xvid edition. I'm assuming he has it at as pure film 24fps at high resolutions.
Then you don't have to worry about what format wins the war, or PAL/NTSC. (I'm sure we will see DivX chips in future HD/BR players anyway).

Edit: Btw, Boris, I think you're tone deaf. I've heard several recent PAL DVD's. Guess what, Pitch Shifting really ISN'T that common (or my sampling was skewed). If you want details drop your DVD in your PC, grab a VOB file and load it into GSpot software. It'll tell you the frame rate and pulldown.
The extra lines would be great to have, I will agree, but DVDs look pretty good for 480 lines (and anamorphic helps hedge the line-equation a bit). While more lines would be better, it's NOT better at the expense of sound quality.
Also your films being 4% faster are paced differently than the director intended.
Post
#215473
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215473/action/topic#215473
Time
Criterion has (quietly) gone through it's back catalog and retransfered most of their older releases as new anamorphics.

Most of what was letterbox laserdisc master material originally is now 16x9 (although the packaging on many of their titles doesn't reveal this except in the small technical info at the bottom).


I would guess the DVNR was done digitally by computer, sooo... wait I don't know a thing about the process. Is it some sort of telecining where the film is taken directly to a digital video camera or is it processed by computer?
Ok I'll shut up now, if the tapes were digital the DVNR could have been done before or after I suppose.
Post
#215342
Topic
.: Citizen's NTSC DVD / PAL DVD / XviD project :. (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215342/action/topic#215342
Time
PC software (PowerDVD, WinDVD, etc) can play back at 24fps.

Where's that hidden setting?
Btw, software like Sony's SoundForge works well for speed and pitch shifting ("well" being relative). For a whole discussion check out the early part of the thread for my transfer. I had originally intended to just slow Mother's audio down, which of course wouldn't work, but all the technical ins-and-outs were brought up.

To be fair at least 23.976 is close. Until there's a true 24 fps home format it'll have to do.
If the lines of resolution bother you get an HD-DVD/BluRay Player.
Anyone with a tin ear can hear how bad 25 fps sped up audio is. Those extra lines of resolution mean squat in comparison.

Frankly I'd go so far as to say 99% of all film (for theatrical release) is shot at 24 fps regardless of country. The rare times you'll find true 25 fps film is when the destination is expected to be TV in a PAL country. Even the U.S. shoots it's TV at 24 fps instead of 30.

You do find the odd 30 fps shots in anime for smoothness but in those cases it's not 100% and you find hybrid framerate video which is a whole other discussion.
Post
#215338
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215338/action/topic#215338
Time
It's all a matter of what you expect from a DVD.

I have a lot of DVD's from the early release days and most of them were laserdisc masters re-used.
It's pretty much a hit or miss prospect. Sometimes it's pretty nice, sometimes it is foul and unwatchable.

Ever see John Wayne's the Quiet Man? The Anniversary laserdisc looked nice (for laserdisc), the DVD transfer from the same master is unwatchable because of grain that looks like a black snowstorm. Sometimes modern transfers from these laserdisc sources aren't a good thing.

In 90% of these cases the films are later re-released struck from a better quality source in anamorphic because it IS better and modern viewers find the older quality unacceptable. George Lucas has to expect that we would too.

Edit: Can someone clear something up for me? Are laserdisc masters a film source or some sort of analog magnetic tape? If it's still on film, can't they scan it at a higher resolution and digitally resize it to anamorphic like the rest of us do?
Post
#215187
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/215187/action/topic#215187
Time
I do encourage you all to buy this release, or else you are liar too - because you've all said that you would buy the O-OT if released..


Sure, but did we expect the father of THX to just crap out a set of Original Trilogy when we said that?


Interesting about the whole format shift thing.
Recently Circuit City has announced a mp3 ripping service where they will convert your CD to mp3 for you. I wonder what the RIAA will have to say about that?
Post
#214578
Topic
Johnny Mnemonic Japan Cut <JM> Extended (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214578/action/topic#214578
Time
I agree about the home movie footage cut out being good (and the fact that it's better paced).

It's just after the other when you see that he doubles himself, there appears to be no reason. Also there's lots of re-run voice-overs that don't shut up the whole time.
Both versions of that scene have strengths and weaknesses, but on the whole the Japan cut of the movie is far far superior.
Post
#214506
Topic
ORIGINAL STAR WARS TRILOGY OUT 09/2006 BY LUCASFILM
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214506/action/topic#214506
Time
Zombie84: That's exactly what I was thinking. All the parts exist and had to be restored. Just because they currently aren't spliced together on a consecutive reel doesn't make a difference with modern digital techniques.

ShiftyEyes:
I would say that everyone at Lucasfilm would've been idiots NOT to strike a new interpositive before the SEs were made.

You know we can't rule the idiot thing out either.
Post
#214400
Topic
Johnny Mnemonic Japan Cut <JM> Extended (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214400/action/topic#214400
Time
The Japanese cut is NTSC.
I believe IMDB is wrong about the 107 minute runtime.
It refers to the 107 minute one as the Japanese Video version, which is this one. I don't think there is any other cuts.
I just deleted an old divx of the Japanese DVD and it was also 103 minutes.

Off subject: I just rewatched this film last night and was again surprised that in the 'hacking his own brain scene', it's less sensical compared to the U.S. cut.
Post
#214349
Topic
STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214349/action/topic#214349
Time
Don't worry about it. Since the SFV file doesn't effect the actual DVD and it doesn't scan itself it won't effect any discs burned from the torrent.
If it really bothers you, after downloading open the .sfv file with notepad and delete:

;Q2-1c5989f9621f09e
;Q2-MORJf+yzxQE=
;Q2-//8=


and re-save. You now have a perfect copy (actually don't burn the "Torrent downloaded from Demonoid.com.txt" file either).
Post
#214297
Topic
Blade Runner HDTV (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214297/action/topic#214297
Time

You exist just to correct my posts don't you?


Oops, Focuspuller found me out.


Either way, I'm sort of stoked to see the anniversary cut in theaters.

Let's hope it isn't like the Alien Director's Cut. Ridley Scott says in the DVD extras that the new version is the Director's Cut in that he did the cut, but he personally doesn't like it as much and that the original version is really what he considers the definitive one.

Are we confused? Let's hope he doesn't George Lucas this thing.

Post
#214172
Topic
STAR WARS: The Torrents thread
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214172/action/topic#214172
Time
Complete text of my sfv file. Hmmm.
I was going to say it could be just a fluke from the bittorrent hashing but now I wonder.
I really don't no what to tell you.

; Star Wars, Ep IV - A New Hope
; Reinventing The Wheel
; v2 with fixed audio
;
; Generated by Easy SFV Creator 2.7.0 on 31 August 2005 at 2:35:15 AM.
;
; File Size (Bytes) Time/Date
; --------------------- ------------- ---------
; ReadMe.txt 719 12:28:48 23/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP 14,336 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO 14,336 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB 116,736 02:08:05 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP 18,432 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO 18,432 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB 116,736 02:08:05 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB 3,483,648 02:08:05 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.BUP 81,920 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO 81,920 02:28:24 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB 116,736 02:08:05 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB 1,073,565,696 02:08:06 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB 1,073,565,696 02:13:29 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB 1,073,565,696 02:18:09 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.VOB 1,073,565,696 02:22:41 31/08/2005
; VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.VOB 297,947,136 02:27:11 31/08/2005
;
ReadMe.txt BD1B2951
VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.BUP E09B34B8
VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.IFO E09B34B8
VIDEO_TS\VIDEO_TS.VOB 7840CE50
VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.BUP DFBA96C1
VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO DFBA96C1
VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.VOB 7840CE50
VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB F7662B50
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.BUP 30EAAFA7
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO 30EAAFA7
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.VOB 7840CE50
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_1.VOB BCC1EBAF
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_2.VOB 2C332023
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_3.VOB 944EB1F0
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_4.VOB 18C1C2D2
VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_5.VOB 8FA69798
; End of SFV file.
Post
#214071
Topic
Blade Runner HDTV (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/214071/action/topic#214071
Time
Not really speculation at this point: Check out TheDigitalBits.com today.

DVD/BluRay/HDDVD "Director's Cut" ('92) (limited time release)
followed by a new Ridley Scott Anniversary Cut in theaters
then a massive box set for DVD/BluRay/HDDVD with (likely) all 4 editions of the film (put together by the guys that did the Alien Quadrilogy set)

And all anamorphic.
How can you not love it?
Post
#212512
Topic
Info: Harry Potter TV Edits?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/212512/action/topic#212512
Time
ShiftyEyes, your post floored me, so I had to check for myself.
Below are captures from the Widescreen DVD and my (crappy) VHS copy of the ABC Edit. (I think you can tell which is which.)

http://adventureclub.postrock.net/wide.jpg
http://adventureclub.postrock.net/ps.jpg

And the verdict is yes and no. While there is obviously more picture above and below in the pan and scan edition, there is also more left and right in the letterbox transfer.

Now the ABC edit could very well be different from official P&S DVD, but I don't have that to make a comparison. Can anyone confirm or deny that it has the same cropping?