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#243417
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243417/action/topic#243417
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I'm concerned. With the release of GOUT, where does the X0 project stand?

Some are pulling distribution of their preservation projects, others are talking new projects for "personal use only".

Will X0 see the light of day?

Btw, I am not responsible for distribution of my project which continues to be seeded on Demonoid.
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#243252
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.: The XØ Project - Laserdisc on Steroids :. (SEE FIRST POST FOR UPDATES) (* unfinished project *)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243252/action/topic#243252
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Sorry about that, I mis-read something...

The is the last time to own INDIVIDUALLY. '07 big-momma-jomma box set is likely going to have it.

And again, without a new transfer (from what?) there can be no HD or BR version.

DVD may be the last stop for the OT unless he cuts apart the original master negative again. (If you believed him the first time.)
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#243076
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243076/action/topic#243076
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Ugh, I was of the opinion that they performed the pulldown at the time of making the laserdiscs.

I can't recall seeing any other DVD that was a straight port of a laserdisc release that wasn't progressive.
Let's hope GL isn't THAT crazy.

Ok yes yes yes, 1080 is still interlaced in broadcast, 29.97 and 25 fps are STILL thrown around.
But the point is, regardless of the player, UK, Australia, U.S., Japan, all frame rates should be available to everyone and the the resolutions should be fixed (720 or 1080).
So even if someone records a U.K. tv program at 25 fps at 1080i, you could still play it without needing to resize and flag it for 29.97 pulldown to play it in the U.S.
The difference is they made concessions for backwards compatibility, but they've also torn down the walls that separate a lot of content. We should also see the end of slow down, speed up and time shifting of audio.
There'll still be the occasional throwback, but on the whole things should (hopefully) become more simple.

Btw, DVD-Rebuilder handles 29.97 interlaced content just fine too. :-)

Btw, Laserman, why 72 fps? Just a random number? 3x24? Why not 48? It's still a faster framerate than anything else currently used.
Isn't 72 about the limit of the current fastest LCD panels? That would have been hard for them to implement earlier since they push a lot of LCD HDTVs.
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#243002
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/243002/action/topic#243002
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Karyudo,
Not to split hairs, but I think most progressive scan players actually apply the flags, and then use post-processing to IVTC. This is because a lot of DVDs -- especially older ones -- don't use the flags properly, like they should. Ignoring flags is elegant, but brute force field matching is more foolproof.

Yes, I know that was definitely true of the first models, and is probably still the case, but I didn't want to confuse things.

As far as 1080i, from my understanding they're starting to push 1080p now. I'll admit I'm not completely up on the format, but is the interlacing just the way the TV displays it or do they actually record the content interlaced?

And yes, square pixels mean it's all non-anamorphic, but it's non-anamorphic at 16x9 resolutions. So more accurately they are all widescreen. Yes they are welcome to take and pillarbox the thing, but lets hope we see little of that crap.

ESHBG, you don't need Movie Only mode if you want the menus. Movie only is just that, the movie, no menus, nothing.
As far as if the menus are converted to anamorphic or kept anamorphic, I don't know. You'll have to see what you end up with.
As far as DVD-9's it's not uncommon to see them for $1.80. But either way you can test your newly encoded disc before you burn it...

Everyone Else, anyone notice that the TV commercials for this set aren't even saying the OUT is on the set? In fact they aren't saying that OUT is limited edition, they are saying "available individually for a limited time."

Are they playing with words? Are we next going to see the OUT as part of a boxset after they try to rook us for this crap release?
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#242966
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242966/action/topic#242966
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Sorry if this is redundant/off-topic:
Nearly all DVDs (of theatrical movies) are progressive.
29.97 fps video (on DVD) are usually from a video source (as opposed to film).
Since the NTSC standard uses 29.97 (interlaced), progressive 24 frame film material is slowed to 23.976 and a pulldown flag is added to tell the hardware/software to convert (telecine) on-the-fly to make it 29.97 by duplicating and interlacing frames (the pattern is unimportant at this point).
This is why there are Progressive Scan DVD players. They don't convert the data to 29.97, they playback the 24 frame progressive material as recorded.
So although (say the Star Wars) DVD is telecined on playback the actually data on disc is really 23.976 progressive. When re-encoding the flags are ignored and the original 23.976 frames are re-encoded and new pulldown flags are added at the end so it'll playback correctly.

Occasionally you will find true video sources (which is completely interlaced with no duplicate frames at 29.97 fps), and then you have to mess with the deinterlacing (or leave it be, depending on what you want to do with it).
You may also find film sources that have been telecined and recorded that way (such as on laserdiscs or VHS tapes which don't allow for progressive material). Then you must inverse telecining (IVTC) because the material is recorded interlaced at 29.97, not converted to it during playback.

So yes, the material started progressive and ended progressive.
This is one reason some of us can't wait to play with HD content. They allows for true 24 frames. There is no NTSC and no PAL. Hopefully interlacing and telecining will soon be a thing of the past.
HD-DVD and Blu-Ray discs don't even allow for 4x3 content, meaning non-anamorphic discs can't exist.

As far as stipping material, if you are converting down to a single layer DVD (DVD-5), absolutely strip extras, languages, and subtitles that are of no interest to you. I personally would probably just use the Movie Only Mode (since you probably don't care if your extras are anamorphic).
The more space you free up that way, the higher the encoding quality will be on the movie. This is true regardless of compression (transcoding) or re-encoding.

(This is also redundant: Methods of re-encoding like DVD Rebuilder provide higher quality than software like DVD Shrink. The reason is the video is fully re-encoded (which is slower but more accurate). DVD Shrink is a variation on software used in digital broadcasting: "they do not have to decode and re-encode the entire video stream, but only part of it". DVD Shrink probably produces invisible results to 90% of the people to about 80% compression. After that they develop artifacts much faster than re-encoding the video at a lower bitrate which in some cases can almost be halved and still produce a nice picture.)

As far as the ITU aspect ratio, don't worry, it's just plain complicated to explain. The avisynth filters can let you add noise reduction or sharpening, etc. if you are a hopeless tweaker. Again, not particularly necessary.

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#242796
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242796/action/topic#242796
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I don't know if the free version has all the options.
The one you're looking for is on the Options Tab. Follow the tree down: AVS Options/AVS Expert Options:Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9.
You can also adjust for ITU aspect ratio and use any additional AviSynth filter you'd like (in case you want to tweak the picture while it's at it.)

I'd consider DVD Rebuilder a near on perfect tool if it would allow PAL -> NTSC (and back) conversion.

Check out these guide:
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm
http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial_advanced.cfm
http://www.doom9.org/mpg/dvdrb.htm

They're not all up to date (settings have been moved around), but it'll get you started.
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#242678
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Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242678/action/topic#242678
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Well DVD Decrypter can't handle some newer Disney and Sony titles that are a little more aggresively encrypted (technically they are building corrupt discs).

Much of what you all are asking is in ADM's Editing Guide: http://www.originaltrilogy.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=12&threadid=3444

Also, if you are just looking to go from your NTSC DVD to Anamorphic (though I would definitely go from PAL), grab DVD Rebuilder.
On a most basic level it takes a DVD-9 and lets you convert to DVD-5 by Re-encoding (NOT recompressing like DVD Shrink).
You can also go DVD-9 to DVD-9.

What IS important is a little check box that says "Convert form LB 4:3 to 16:9".

Hit go! You need little knowledge to do it that way, and you'll keep your closed captioning, subtitles, menus, EVERYTHING.

EDIT: Circuit City is listing the DVDs at $14.95 each this week. So far the cheapest price I've seen.


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#242666
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Possible Preservation Project - The Secret War of Harry Frigg?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/242666/action/topic#242666
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The Secret War of Harry Frigg http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063573/

Paul Newman, 1968 war-comedy:

When 5 allied generals are captured in Italy in WW II, it is a propaganda nightmare for the Allies. The generals are all 1 star and refuse to take orders from each other in order to plan an escape. Harry Frigg is a private who has escaped from the guard house dozens of times. He is promoted to Major General (2 stars) and ordered to get the generals out once he is captured. Harry is willing to escape, but then he meets the countess …

As far as I know this has only existed as a now out of print VHS tape.
Has anyone seen a laserdisc of this film? A Google turns up nothing.

I almost had a tape for $2 yesterday, but that’s a long painful story.
I’m going to grab it from eBay now, but I really hate to source this from NTSC VHS.

 

Mod Edit: Doctor M’s finished preservation of ‘The Secret War of Harry Frigg’ can be found here - link

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#241219
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***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241219/action/topic#241219
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Can someone explain why BluRay/HDDVD has AVC as part of it's specs? I mean a standard 4.7gb DVD with x264 hi-def video looks fan-frickin-tastic, why do you need to put it on a 25gb disc?

Screw new HD/BR discs, give me standard DVD disc and a DVD player capable of outputting a hi-def signals.
Then we already have the tools we need and there's no format war.

Maybe someone will wise up and do that. Just tweak the DVD specifications to include a hi-def video format.

I suppose that was off topic, sorry. It's just that I saw a Harry Potter hdtv clip in 720p today compressed to 4.7gb and it was bloody amazing. It even still had room for subs and 3 languages of 6 channel ac3.

I'll say it again: the HD war is a contrivance!
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#241056
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***The ADigitalMan non-Star Wars DVD Info and Feedback Thread***
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/241056/action/topic#241056
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Hmm actually I just read an article that said HP1-4 will all be out of print by February (1-3 in January).

With a BluRay in the works, I'm wondering if we're going to see a new standard DVD come out at the same time (to push the next film).

I just can't help thinking with HP1 & 2 ABC edits being official Director's Cuts, there's got to be a real release eventually, maybe it starts with HiDef.