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#261273
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261273/action/topic#261273
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I have a version 2 of Harris skipping to the bank.
I've removed the trailer's music and foley in exchange for the music from another deleted scene that won't be used.
I'm actually fairly happy with it. Do you all think this is better?

Edit v3: http://rapidshare.com/files/7263853/LAS3.avi.html (1.9mb)

Edit's Edit: Heh, I just realized it'd be funny if there was a caption at the bottom of the screen that said "2:59PM".

Edit's Edited Edit: That's what it needed to sell it. It only took me 2 hours to figure out how to do this and to time and match the font size, position, etc. with previous subs in the film, but I think this is the cut that's going to make it.
It preserves the original joke's impact but lets us add the skipping gag.
Do I hear an amen?
http://rapidshare.com/files/7271373/las3.avi.html (2.1mb)
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#261258
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Info: Hold onto your old Little Mermaid discs!
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261258/action/topic#261258
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I had the opportunity to listen to the original theatrical mix side by side the DHT mix today.

Um, more punch, better sound stage, better movement of sounds through the speakers. No contest.
I will probably be building a Theatrical Version edit. The preacher's knee will be decided later since I'm involved in L.A. Story EE at the moment.
Rules here prohibit further discussion, but I will continue to discuss this... elsewhere.
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#261193
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261193/action/topic#261193
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Zell Rocekting in: He is already almost unintelligible from the rocket pack noise but you can tell he is mumbling gibberish. I was going to just overdub completely with more rocket noise and hard sub something. But you're right maybe we don't have to know what he says since that evening Harris mentions he has a new job. I'll see how that looks. Either way it can't be much since it's about 10 syllables.

I like the shot of Harris skipping--could you, instead of the music, loop in the dialogue from Zell: "It looks too desperate if you run to a meeting," which may explain why he is skipping?


That line is already in the film when Harris and Harry have their lunch meeting a few scenes earlier. I'd have to just put in some traffic and skipping noises from... somewhere if I'm going to keep it.

The skating argument: I think it goes in right after the bad weekend at el Pollo del Mar. Currently there are several scenes with Harris wooing Sara. (Oh point birds oh pointy pointy...). This scene is similar in style but instead of trying to win her, he is being kind of mean saying he's glad he found out now that she's a week, uncommitted person and not the type he is looking for at all.
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#261118
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261118/action/topic#261118
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This is part of a longer montage during Sara's commentary on LA, where she says "Some say LA's a place for the brain dead. . ." It's supposed to come after Ariel and June subathing, SanDeE* in class, and Frank waiting for Trudi.


I sort of suspected that. It was the only place a short clip like that could really fit.

As far as the other questionable scene, it has Harris walking outside in the morning in his robe picking up the morning paper. Harry Zell noisily rockets in and says something and abruptly leaves. It says scene 151 (if that helps). Sc. 131 is Zell skipping.

The scene you quote (#239) is part of the alternate ending with Harry Zell talking to the signpost at night and leaving just before the couple shows up to thank the sign. There are only provisional fx cut in that are unusable. The dialog you posted is very cute, but not available. The scene I have has Harris and Sara gushing that the whole storm thing was terrific and the sign says "It Worked?". Then Harris says something that comes off lame "You know I thought it was my fault I could never get close to anyone. Now I realize I'd never been with the right girl." The original ending works much better.

So any idea about #151?

To everyone: I need a humor check. I restored Harry skipping to the Fourth Reich Bank of Hamburg appointment. Unfortunately it required using the trailers' music, which is bouncy. I feel it sort of kills the impact of the joke, but it does give us more. After listening to the scene so much I can't judge objectively.
So here's another voting opportunity:
http://rapidshare.com/files/7124779/LAS2.avi.html 3.7mb
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#261078
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261078/action/topic#261078
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There are 3 main Zell scenes.

The first is the big intro of the character and it's 5+ minutes. I know it goes in right after Harris is fired for pre-taping the weather. (I just cut that in this evening.)

The other 2 are a bit harder to figure. One is just Zell and a bunch of others skipping (like 7 seconds). The other has Zell rocketing in while Harris is getting the morning paper, he talks some jibberish and rockets off.

If you can tell me: where the last two go (I couple of lines of dialog either before or after is all I need since I have a 'movie cut' script I can reference) and what Zell is supposed to say when he rockets in since it seems likely they intended to loop new dialog in post production, that would be VERY helpful. My assumption is that last scene goes in just before Harris goes to his mother's dinner party and Harry says something like: 'KYOY wants you back as a serious weatherman. Ciao.'
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#260975
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260975/action/topic#260975
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More troubles. Spent an entire day editing in 1 scene. There was only provisional sound. Missing effects, etc.
Cloned some sounds, added some new sound fx, expanded soundfields and made it all a 5.1 mix. It's quite watchable now. I can't believe how difficult a project this has become. I figured it'd be my easiest, I feel like I'm editing the Matrix again.
At this rate it's going to be a couple weeks. That said:

According to DVDTalk Forum's list of defective DVDs:

L.A. Story - Special Edition
[Artisan]
Problem: Director's commentary is advertised on the back of the packaging, but is not on the disc. Please leave a post if anyone can verify this.
Solution: None.


So there's no commentary to find. Scratch one extra. Anyway the first post was updated.
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#260872
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260872/action/topic#260872
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.:EDITED:.

The big deal about "A walk in L.A." is that it's in the movie trailer, not in the film or the deleted scenes on the DVD. I've always wanted to add it back.

I spent about an hour tweaking back and forth on this scene. I'm very pleased. It's only about 90% perfect, most people will never notice the flaws. Most of the audio is now from the trailer and not the film itself.

Check out the good work:
http://rapidshare.com/files/6833725/LAS_test.avi.html 2.11mb

Don't believe the difficulty leve|?
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/7293/walkgi0.jpg
You're looking at 14 seconds of film.

First post updated.
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#260811
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260811/action/topic#260811
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It's not an edit without a meltdown post.... argggghhh bwahahahahah eeeeeyowwwwieeeee.

All deleted audio is mono! Everything can be center channel or... irk this edit is going to suuuuck

Whew. Ok I'm back. I spent the entire afternoon on just plotting out a plan for the audio. The Kazoo Church originally mono is now mixed in glorious 5.1.
The rest of the clips won't be this good but they won't be pure center channel mono either since that sounds crappy and closed up.
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#260669
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260669/action/topic#260669
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There's actually like 4-6 easter eggs like that scattered throughout the menus.
I've already ripped them and will probably assemble them into a mini-doc as an extra.
Dunno, I'm already over a single layer with the movie, the extra scenes and the intro.

Btw, I'm re-thinking the Zell title. I had expected just one Zell scene and a bit more of the others. Now there's almost as much other stuff as Zell and the recurring Zell scenes after the main one are lightweight and don't really make sense (I think more was cut).
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#260580
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260580/action/topic#260580
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So as easy as ADM makes it look, there is more to making an extended edition than throwing every snipped of film back in.

First and most unfortunately the clips on the whole look pretty bad. Real bad. Someone had them on video tape in their attach or something type bad. I mean there are deinterlacing artifacts on 23.976 film. Sigh.

Second, a good deal of the 20(!) delete scenes aren't very good. Scott Bakula as a boxer who lives next door to Harris... crap. 4 scenes of annoying crap including one bit where Steve actually talks to the camera, brrr.
There's also a series of icky TV commercials Harris is filming while out of work. Somewhat amusing but a bit out of character for the film. Though they might still be in, I haven't decided 100% on this.

I was going to add a butt load of the Zell scenes, but frankly only the main big one has a point, is funny, and makes sense. But man, I can finally retire that crusty VHS I had.

There are some really funny deleted moments though if you haven't seen them, including a Kazoo Church and John Lithgow singing "I F*#$ for a living".
I'm also trying to pull a couple deleted scenes that are in the trailers but not in the extras (including 'A walk in L.A.')

So in the end there will be 4-6-ish extra scenes. Not nearly the mountain I expected, and some are still on the fence. I always question when editors say they left out this or that deleted scene because I want it all. But now I know, sometimes, they're cut originally because they really aren't that good, or don't belong in the context of the film.

If you just read all that I'll drop what my next extended edit will be: Eurotrip (embarrassingly I find this film very funny.)
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#260553
Topic
Info Wanted: Anyone Planning on making Anamorphic versions using 2006 OUT DVDs?
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260553/action/topic#260553
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Just a heads up. I was working on another project where the source was "progressive" film but there were still bad deinterlace artifacts.
It was easy to clean and I thought you all might want to give it a go with your GOUT DVDs.

KernelDeint(order=0)

It's a motion based deinterlacer for true video source. Although the material is already deinterlaced the filter can still remove any of the comb pattern left behind.
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#260452
Topic
L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260452/action/topic#260452
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I took my first look at this today.

I was going to (as an extra feature) add the original release's audio commentary track that's missing from the anniversary edition.

But... although my original disc's box says Audio Commentary, there isn't one.
Did I get an odd printing of this that was missing the track or did they just lie on the box?
Can anyone confirm/deny/share this track?
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#259691
Topic
Superman by Taolar (Formally: Son of Jorel) WORKPRINT AVAILABLE
Link
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/259691/action/topic#259691
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The S3 wasn't the only bug (though not everyone had the wrong S3 disc).

According to TheDigitalBits.com:

Just to be precise, the 1978 Superman theatrical edition disc (Disc One of the Ultimate Collector's Edition) is supposed to have the revised 5.1 audio (edited down from the 2001 Extended Edition's 5.1 remix) and the ORIGINAL THEATRICAL 2.0 audio. That's what the corrected discs will contain (right now, the 2.0 is the remix also rather than the original theatrical audio).